I never understood these magazines like Red Herring, Wired and the like(not to mention forbes, et al)
Red Herring, Wired and Forbes are very different magazines. Red Herring was focused on the Venture Capital audience, both people peddling ideas and capitalists looking for ideas to fund.
Wired was aimed initially at nerds, and later on towards the hip crowd in Sillicon Alley in Manhattan (in fact most of my friends, who are nerds like me stopped reading it during the transition and moved on to/.).
New technology does make a few very rich, a few more somewhat rich, but leaves most people about the same or worse off.
This is plain unadulterated horseshit.
I'd suggest you try washing cloths using a washboard, after hauling water from the well. after you are done try then using a washing machine. I'm pretty sure you'd be singing to a different tune after that. This is not to say that all technology has been a godsend, but overall the net effect has been positive.
Frankly, I think your statement is fear mongering, and it's just giving ammunition to the bad guys.
On the contrary, I think the bad guys are intelligently focusing in one of the weak aspects of OSS, namely the overly-aggressive GPL.
Now we can either plug up the hole and solidify OSS' position by moving to a more reasonable BSD style license or we can bury our head in the sand and deny there is anything wrong with the GPL.
Perhaps this hinges on the precise definition used for the term "viral"?
Viral in that it's self-replicating, it spreads to any code it gets in contact with, even a minute amount of code is enough to infect a large system, and lastly it does so without input or consent of the larger host.
Some call this the "viral" aspect of the GPL, but I daresay that those are the people who are only interested in taking from the community without giving something in return.
I'd dare say that those who call it viral are simply calling a spade a spade.
One might agree with the viral provision, as it seems unfair for somebody to profit from what is free code, still it does not change the fact that the GPL is viral.
p.s. About the question in your subject line RTFA.
but the bottom ine is that the first to discover the thing was going to use it, and this world has been quite the scary & dangerous place ever since.
Funny, and here's me thinking all along that the reason we didn't fight WW III against the Russians is that the bomb made it unthinkable, and that it is only because of this that we have had 58 years without a world war, instead of the 21 we had between WW I and WW II.
It is common to see judgments on the use of the atomic bomb from a "holier that thou" perspective and with full use of the benefit of hindsight.
I don't envy Harry Truman. He had to make a choice between likely tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of GI lives if Japan was invaded or hundreds of thousand Japanase casualties if the bomb was used.
It was a horrible, subhuman choice to make, which is what war makes us into.
Actually, AFAIK back then Oscars were given to bad movies, 'cuz everybody saw the good ones anyhow, so why not help the bad ones increase their take...
Look, the mean-time-to-failure of a hard drive is 15,000 to 20,000 hours. This means that a hard drive stops working at Goole every hour of every day. Truly 24/7.
If you were to look at their dumpster in the back alley, you'd find about 170 hard drives dunked every week.
Wouldn't you cheksum every data transfer under those conditions too?
As a manager I don't care if my employees surf the web at work. When I assign them a task I have a good idea how long it should take. If Joe Blow always takes longer than expected, I'll fire him, web surfing or not. If Jane Bleep routinely finishes her work ahead of time, I'll make sure she gets the biggest raise, come evaluation time, plus I'll praise her work in the next team meeting, and little could I care if she reads/. from work.
Re:Why do the fathers of UNIX dislike Linux so muc
on
Dennis Ritchie Interviewed
·
· Score: 4, Interesting
It does make you curious as to what the exact arguments of these people against Linux are.
Simple: technically Linux is not that impressive... hear me out before you moderate this as a troll:
Suppose a bunch of volunteers got together in a garage and built a clone of the space shuttle. This would be an amazing feat, but nobody would claim that this makes the design of the shuttle any less outdated or flawed.
Linux is a clone of a decades-old operating system... let me correct that, Linux is the best Unix clone out there, but to quote Rob Pike "Linux's cleverness is not in the software, but in the development model".
Linux has no novel user model, no new UI metaphor, no replacement for the X11 mess (still waiting for display postscript). It has no alternative to the all or nothing Unix security model (root/luser), it has not improved over the "everything is a file" innovation from Unix.
That is why innovators like Rob Pike, Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson are not that impressed with Linux.
(heck, not even a decent replacement for the X11 mess... still waiting for
In today's press conference a NASA official dismissed the importance of the debri that hit the left wing on launch. After all it happened in two of the previous three shuttle missions, and nothing happened.
This brought back memories of a paragraph from the Feynman report after the challenger disaster which warns precisely about this:
We have also found that certification criteria used in Flight Readiness Reviews often develop a gradually decreasing strictness. The argument that the same risk was flown before without failure is often accepted as an argument for the safety of accepting it again. Because of this, obvious weaknesses are accepted again and again, sometimes without a sufficiently serious attempt to remedy them, or to delay a flight because of their continued presence.
Re:a podiatrist's opinion on the linux kernel...
on
Giant Sucking Noise
·
· Score: 1
Of course, by the same token I'm pretty sure there are some/.ers here who are quite abreast of economics.
My point is that economics in general, and international trade in particular, like quantum mechanics, is full of surprising counter-intuitive observations.
I mean, at first hand the argument of Ross Perot made a lot of sense. Afterall wages are substantially lower in Mexico, so all of our jobs were supposed to move there....
a podiatrist's opinion on the linux kernel...
on
Giant Sucking Noise
·
· Score: 4, Insightful
What would you think if you went to a podiatrist mailing list and one of the topics of discussion was a debate over some complex memory paging algorithm for the linux kernel?
The opinion surely come down as: either this is one bunch of smart podiatrists or, this is one bunch of cocky podiatrists who have no idea what they are talking about.
International trade is a difficult subject. Often situations that seem bad for one country are actually beneficial, as first pointed by the great economist David Ricardo two hundred years ago. This holds across the entire field of economics, starting from the fact that trade is a win/win scenario, while most people think its a win/lose scenario.
If you are concerned about the impact of jobs moving abroad, I suggest you read up on economics, so you come to understand, for example, why not all jobs when to Mexico after NAFTA got signed, as Ross Perot predicted.
Here are a few useful links:
http://www.systemics.com/docs/ricardo/david.html
David Friedman. Hidden Order: The Economics of Everyday Life, Harper-Collins, 1996. http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Hidd en_Orde r/Hidden_Order_Chapter_20.html
You miss the point. I know why it is zero. The point is that on a quick reading it is unexpectedly so. Error prone design is inferior design. The whole problem could have been avoided if C had used a special integer division symbol as several other languages do....
I knew that a childish, unfunny potshot at Microsoft would get you a +5 insightful here at/., I wasn't aware that it could actually get you a front-page story...
Clifford Stoll in "cuckoos egg" writes about a computer room full of rows of Crays "as far as the eye can see" at the NSA.
I've heard other people describe this room using a football field as unit of reference (something like 1/2 a football field size).
Lastly, publicly traded companies are legally allowed to hide their sales to top secret organizations. Remember this the next time you wonder why would SGI ever purchase and continue production of Cray's when they are only selling, supposedlty 5 a year...
I'm absolutely convinced OJ would have been convicted in a Canadian court.
While I think it is pretty clear OJ was guilty, I also think it was proven beyond doubt that the police planted evidence (remember the blood spot on the folded sock, and Fuhrman lying on the record?).
The legal standard in cases of evidence tampering is for the judge to throw out the entire case, much as the jury did.
So what you're saying is that moving lots of data over a network is slower than moving it over a local bus. How is this X's fault? And how does it hurt X's performance when used locally?
No, what we are saying is that X moves more data than it needs to, because it assumed the client (terminal) had very few computational resources and hence could not possibly be asked to render, say, postcript.
Slashdot Mirror
So a line with *any* profit margin at all will be a valuable thing to have come the next stockholder's meeting.
If only the could have one of those... Amazon just sold $1.43 billion in merchandise last Xmas, and couldn't get 0.25% of that in true profits...
This means that as far as businesses are concerned, your savings account is a more successful business model than "man of the year" Bezos' Amazon.
I never understood these magazines like Red Herring, Wired and the like(not to mention forbes, et al)
/.).
Red Herring, Wired and Forbes are very different magazines. Red Herring was focused on the Venture Capital audience, both people peddling ideas and capitalists looking for ideas to fund.
Wired was aimed initially at nerds, and later on towards the hip crowd in Sillicon Alley in Manhattan (in fact most of my friends, who are nerds like me stopped reading it during the transition and moved on to
New technology does make a few very rich, a few more somewhat rich, but leaves most people about the same or worse off.
This is plain unadulterated horseshit.
I'd suggest you try washing cloths using a washboard, after hauling water from the well. after you are done try then using a washing machine. I'm pretty sure you'd be singing to a different tune after that. This is not to say that all technology has been a godsend, but overall the net effect has been positive.
Someone mod up the parent. That link explains in great detail the role of Raslin Franklin... Read it over and make your own conclusions....
Indeed, the companies I've worked for cost their people at, roughly, twice their salary.
Frankly, I think your statement is fear mongering, and it's just giving ammunition to the bad guys.
On the contrary, I think the bad guys are intelligently focusing in one of the weak aspects of OSS, namely the overly-aggressive GPL.
Now we can either plug up the hole and solidify OSS' position by moving to a more reasonable BSD style license or we can bury our head in the sand and deny there is anything wrong with the GPL.
Perhaps this hinges on the precise definition used for the term "viral"?
Viral in that it's self-replicating, it spreads to any code it gets in contact with, even a minute amount of code is enough to infect a large system, and lastly it does so without input or consent of the larger host.
Some call this the "viral" aspect of the GPL, but I daresay that those are the people who are only interested in taking from the community without giving something in return.
I'd dare say that those who call it viral are simply calling a spade a spade.
One might agree with the viral provision, as it seems unfair for somebody to profit from what is free code, still it does not change the fact that the GPL is viral.
p.s. About the question in your subject line RTFA.
but the bottom ine is that the first to discover the thing was going to use it, and this world has been quite the scary & dangerous place ever since.
Funny, and here's me thinking all along that the reason we didn't fight WW III against the Russians is that the bomb made it unthinkable, and that it is only because of this that we have had 58 years without a world war, instead of the 21 we had between WW I and WW II.
It is common to see judgments on the use of the atomic bomb from a "holier that thou" perspective and with full use of the benefit of hindsight.
I don't envy Harry Truman. He had to make a choice between likely tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of GI lives if Japan was invaded or hundreds of thousand Japanase casualties if the bomb was used.
It was a horrible, subhuman choice to make, which is what war makes us into.
If you don't thik C should have used "div" instead of "/" to denote integer division, I'll give you 1/2 million dollars, no questions asked.
Actually, AFAIK back then Oscars were given to bad movies, 'cuz everybody saw the good ones anyhow, so why not help the bad ones increase their take...
Look, the mean-time-to-failure of a hard drive is 15,000 to 20,000 hours. This means that a hard drive stops working at Goole every hour of every day. Truly 24/7.
If you were to look at their dumpster in the back alley, you'd find about 170 hard drives dunked every week.
Wouldn't you cheksum every data transfer under those conditions too?
Not that you are bitter or anything... =)
As a manager I don't care if my employees surf the web at work. When I assign them a task I have a good idea how long it should take. If Joe Blow always takes longer than expected, I'll fire him, web surfing or not. If Jane Bleep routinely finishes her work ahead of time, I'll make sure she gets the biggest raise, come evaluation time, plus I'll praise her work in the next team meeting, and little could I care if she reads
It does make you curious as to what the exact arguments of these people against Linux are.
Simple: technically Linux is not that impressive... hear me out before you moderate this as a troll:
Suppose a bunch of volunteers got together in a garage and built a clone of the space shuttle. This would be an amazing feat, but nobody would claim that this makes the design of the shuttle any less outdated or flawed.
Linux is a clone of a decades-old operating system... let me correct that, Linux is the best Unix clone out there, but to quote Rob Pike "Linux's cleverness is not in the software, but in the development model".
Linux has no novel user model, no new UI metaphor, no replacement for the X11 mess (still waiting for display postscript). It has no alternative to the all or nothing Unix security model (root/luser), it has not improved over the "everything is a file" innovation from Unix.
That is why innovators like Rob Pike, Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson are not that impressed with Linux.
(heck, not even a decent replacement for the X11 mess... still waiting for
In today's press conference a NASA official dismissed the importance of the debri that hit the left wing on launch. After all it happened in two of the previous three shuttle missions, and nothing happened.
This brought back memories of a paragraph from the Feynman report after the challenger disaster which warns precisely about this:
We have also found that certification criteria used in Flight Readiness Reviews often develop a gradually decreasing strictness. The argument that the same risk was flown before without failure is often accepted as an argument for the safety of accepting it again. Because of this, obvious weaknesses are accepted again and again, sometimes without a sufficiently serious attempt to remedy them, or to delay a flight because of their continued presence.
Of course, by the same token I'm pretty sure there are some
My point is that economics in general, and international trade in particular, like quantum mechanics, is full of surprising counter-intuitive observations.
I mean, at first hand the argument of Ross Perot made a lot of sense. Afterall wages are substantially lower in Mexico, so all of our jobs were supposed to move there....
What would you think if you went to a podiatrist mailing list and one of the topics of discussion was a debate over some complex memory paging algorithm for the linux kernel?
l
d en_Orde r/Hidden_Order_Chapter_20.html
The opinion surely come down as: either this is one bunch of smart podiatrists or, this is one bunch of cocky podiatrists who have no idea what they are talking about.
International trade is a difficult subject. Often situations that seem bad for one country are actually beneficial, as first pointed by the great economist David Ricardo two hundred years ago. This holds across the entire field of economics, starting from the fact that trade is a win/win scenario, while most people think its a win/lose scenario.
If you are concerned about the impact of jobs moving abroad, I suggest you read up on economics, so you come to understand, for example, why not all jobs when to Mexico after NAFTA got signed, as Ross Perot predicted.
Here are a few useful links:
http://www.systemics.com/docs/ricardo/david.htm
David Friedman. Hidden Order: The Economics of Everyday Life, Harper-Collins, 1996.
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Hid
You miss the point. I know why it is zero. The point is that on a quick reading it is unexpectedly so. Error prone design is inferior design. The whole problem could have been avoided if C had used a special integer division symbol as several other languages do....
I knew that a childish, unfunny potshot at Microsoft would get you a +5 insightful here at
Clifford Stoll in "cuckoos egg" writes about a computer room full of rows of Crays "as far as the eye can see" at the NSA.
I've heard other people describe this room using a football field as unit of reference (something like 1/2 a football field size).
Lastly, publicly traded companies are legally allowed to hide their sales to top secret organizations. Remember this the next time you wonder why would SGI ever purchase and continue production of Cray's when they are only selling, supposedlty 5 a year...
I'm absolutely convinced OJ would have been convicted in a Canadian court.
While I think it is pretty clear OJ was guilty, I also think it was proven beyond doubt that the police planted evidence (remember the blood spot on the folded sock, and Fuhrman lying on the record?).
The legal standard in cases of evidence tampering is for the judge to throw out the entire case, much as the jury did.
And the fact that someone besides you said it makes it true?
I'll let you chew on it. As you learn more about OSes you will come to realize how true it is.
Beginners like you are bedazled by the sheer magnitude of the porting task accomplished by Linux and fail to see the quirks.
I don't see your your point there.
:
Here goes again
"On the other hand, Linux is a very straightforward, unexceptional reimplementation of a standard, monolithic Unix kernel,"
which is what I've been claiming all along.
So what you're saying is that moving lots of data over a network is slower than moving it over a local bus. How is this X's fault? And how does it hurt X's performance when used locally?
No, what we are saying is that X moves more data than it needs to, because it assumed the client (terminal) had very few computational resources and hence could not possibly be asked to render, say, postcript.