that Hong Kong is not actually too much a major factor in playing the transformation. I say this, because
Hong Kong izn't fit for technology.
Hong Kong can't even handle Technology. I want to quote a case of the stocks of Tom.com, an internet startup
here. I didn't have much on their page (even though I know they run RedHat Linux) and it already
went on the stock exchange. It is ridiculous. A lot of people were fooled into buying htem, well no not actually since
they don't even realy know what the stock is bout and they just think that hte high tech stock
can earn money. It skyrocketed to HKD $40 and then dropped rock bottom now.
Here, teachers like to use excessive powerpoijnt presentation which I believe is against their wishes
but this is called "Technology". Setting up and waiting for Windoze to boot already take 5 minutes...
wasting valuable lesson time.
I am a student coordinator in several IT projects at school and I find it frustrating since no one knows what
I am talking about.:(
I appreciate the praise for Hong Kong, but I want to remind everyone here that they should not be fooled
by the fact that HK is a world class city so it must have world class techonlogy.
In sincerely hope that China can learn from Hong Kong's mistakes and not implement soemthing without
thinking about revolutionizing people's lives by pushing technoology into our daily lives.
I'm in China, and I would like to say ...
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censorship is nothing new in china, and frankly i'm nto too surprised. there isn't any real need to make a big deal out of it.
i hope that everhyone can understand teh position of hte chinese government nhere...they want to be open but they just aren't ready for it big time yet. some of the older members of hte party are quite conservative, naturally they worry about the internet because it's so "free".
please, since this article mentions something abuot normalizing trade with china, i hope that no slashdot reader is put off just because they're doing censorship in china. i'm sure that china will open up one day, but one step at a time, please.
you see china is doing a lot to open up, e.g. here in Hong Kong sar, we have a pretty free society.
this raises an interesting question. you would have to proceed with caution here, since if you do everything at work, you may find that your employer owns the changes, not you, even though derivative works of your software woudl also have to be GPL since the program was GPLed in the first place. the GPL is legal as any other license and should be enforced to its fullest extent. any modifications the company makes, it may feel free not to release them and use them for personal use (i am no legal expert, maybe someone can verify this) but in the case that it does decide to release them, it must be GPLed, WITH SOURCE. if they don't like that but they still use the software, sue them. the win-win situation is if you can work out soemthing with youur employer, that woudl be nice:-)
what kind of patent is this? i certainly do not see any innovation in this. this has gone too far. a patent, is meant to be an enticement to produce innovation so that the world can become a better place, witht eh inventors gettin credit for it. how could a "method to update" software be granted ?! in all, it's a very simple mechanism, and i know that there are programs that do similar stuff, this isn't new. but in all, the patent is ok with me. but what they will do with it, we'll have to see. i certainly won't be trusting any microsoft assurances as far as patent-persuing goes, because they've shown themsevles to be untrustworthy. i've already stated a very good example here before. you may all have heard of getright, and now they ahve a patent. for ftp downloading, it's nothing more than a couple of clever ftp commnads combined. (REST, RETR, mainly and PASV for passive mode). i've been doing that on my command line ftp for a long time. and getright actually has a patent for it?! to get back to the point, it's a little bit like re-inventing stuff, since these things have been around for a long time. where's microsoft been all this time when _their_ supposely invented stuff was created ?
it is indeed a sign of relief. an isp probably has several hundred users, or even thousands of them, how can an ISP possibly moniter all those users and what htey are posting up on the internet? it's up to the users to behave here, and the real responsibility should lie within the user. and would it be possible to moniter emails and what goes in and out? putting lack of manpower aside, i believe it would be pretty unethical. it's a total breach of privacy. however, this brings to a very important point. even though isps are not responsible for what the users do, it should be noted that should they, after complaint by the victim, not take appropriate action(s) to prevent this from further happening, i feel that the isp has a respnsibility here, and they should be sued. this applies to all sorts of harrassments, that includes not securing their email server so that junk gets relayed through them to me...(i get spam in my yahoo mail:((( thank goodness for filters. it must be the greatest invention since sliced bread.)
gee, wouldn't non-disclosing the mozilla security bugs defeat the meaning of havign a "open-source" model? everyone who has used mozilla before (that includes me) knows that it's buggy and not working as well as we would like it to. but by non disclosing bugs in mozilla, you're depriving the right of others to know about this piece of software. gee, what if someone ELSE discovers about this bug, and then exploits it but mozilla keeps me in the dark just because it hasn't found a fix yet? i have a hunch that this is bad.
is there anyone out there who knows what kind of firwall they use , and what OS it runs on? well, i gues you're right. i'm from Hong Kong..yeh, i guess stuff go to into china through here. hey, but it's nice to see that nothing is being blcoked here..i can still view the nytimes. china will really need to loosen up if it wants to catch on to the net revolution.
there will be trouble because one of hte advantages of using keberos was that it's an open standard, so it's not jsut some crappy protocol that's reserved for one piece of software only. now that they changed the protocol to make it _proprietary_ (urgh.), developers may find it hard to make their apps work, since remember, the protocol's closed. even if they release it, it would be interesting to see if they might put restrictions on it/only disclose part of hte specifications? creating a proprietary protocol defeats the purpose of interoperability, but i'm sure that's what microsoft wants anyway. the chief software architect does not seem to know what interoperability means, nor does he want to know or care. so for those folks out there who want to take full advantage of ms windows 2000, looks like you will have to trash your unix servers. tough luck.
hm, how innovative. and weren't symlinks there long before the symlinks that microsoft's now inventing (sic) and publicising in the press pass section? an innovation for Windows, perhaps, but this is nothing new. and really, it's not new. microsoft has long known to be trying to mislead the public. remeber the linux myths article? when they said their OS has lower TOC when compared to UNIX, they actaully compared with solaris which is of course not right since linux != solaris (gee, i guess they were too dense to figure that out.) they made other studid comparisons, that just don't work out in reality. this one is newer. remember the dot truth is out there propaganda campaign? they want to make sun microsystems machines seem bad when compared with microsoft ones, when in fact we all know this is not true. numerous ISPs rely on Sun solaris for their servers. just let me try to recall _ONE_ isp using M$ windows NT/2000... mislead the public. twist the truth. deny the accusations. that's microsoft.
hi, yes, i admit that the program could be used to potentially compromise security on an nt box. but other tools out there are also potential securit compromisers. it's not that hard to crack NT really. install a parallel NT and then delete the SAM. it's that easy. so i guess NT must also be a cracking tool itself.
hello all, i just did a spec file today for the mandrake distro, though i guess it owuld work on redhat as well. i ran it and i must say that i was impressed with its looks, but i gues it's rather...flashy. not my type.
hi, patents was originally meant to do good, but we all know that it's not working right now, as the FSF have already pointed out. i remember one patent. getright. it's patented. i'm not sure why a software like that could be patented. it's just another download manager, that cleverly uses some ftp commands to allow resuming! in fact, those ftp commands were there _long_ before getright was invented. i could do resuming with any old ftp client, even the console based one that came with linux/Windows. i must say that getright is a nice tool but it certainly does _not_ deserve a patent. i read on the news that someone's trying to patent herself (in great britain, i think.) because of all the gene research going on...
hi all, i don't think that it should be restricted. the change in the crypto law's long overdue. too bad they didn't realise it until recently. i'm not in the US and it's nice to seee htat i can browse the web with a 128 bit enabled browser now. sure, you can create powerful stuff with clustering. berwulf is so cool!! but let's face it, the cold war's over man. stupid crypto laws just make everyone feel crappy...
i'm from hongkong and i think i should put in my 2 cents here. you'll be surprised that the VCDs of Hong Kong movies come out not long after the movie's been taken down. (genuine ones i mean.) and the illegal (i prefer not to use pirated. it sounds worse than stealing. instead i use illegal becasue this only implies it's governed by law.) ones...well, let's just say that the people who make the illegal copies are extremely efficient. they tape them in the cinema, and then release them as VCDs. we all know that the movie industry would like p0ut the films up on the cinema as long as possible coz they can make money but this is not very good for the consumer. it's nice to see them (reluctantly) sign an agreement with Yahoo. oh..and illegal copies of software/movie's down..there used to be a lot more several years ago..
i don't like this decision. i got the legal DVD, i got a DVD drive i run Linux, and you don't let me play it event hough everything that i got is _legal_ and playing it on linux is _illegal_?! i don't understand the judge's logic. as already pointed out on opendvd, it's illogical that peple would make illegal DVD copies for the forseeable future because a blank DVD is so expensive. still, it's only natural that these corporations want to control the DVD market..well, isn't the government supposed to stop them, and help us consumers? they say that they have to protect the economic interests of the copyrights holder, but actually these companies have nothing to lose. i hope that the judge is only ignorant on this issue and is not really intentionally helping these companies. if so, then may God help him find the truth.
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that Hong Kong is not actually too much a major factor in playing the transformation. I say this, because Hong Kong izn't fit for technology. Hong Kong can't even handle Technology. I want to quote a case of the stocks of Tom.com, an internet startup here. I didn't have much on their page (even though I know they run RedHat Linux) and it already went on the stock exchange. It is ridiculous. A lot of people were fooled into buying htem, well no not actually since they don't even realy know what the stock is bout and they just think that hte high tech stock can earn money. It skyrocketed to HKD $40 and then dropped rock bottom now. Here, teachers like to use excessive powerpoijnt presentation which I believe is against their wishes but this is called "Technology". Setting up and waiting for Windoze to boot already take 5 minutes ...
wasting valuable lesson time.
I am a student coordinator in several IT projects at school and I find it frustrating since no one knows what
I am talking about. :(
I appreciate the praise for Hong Kong, but I want to remind everyone here that they should not be fooled
by the fact that HK is a world class city so it must have world class techonlogy.
In sincerely hope that China can learn from Hong Kong's mistakes and not implement soemthing without
thinking about revolutionizing people's lives by pushing technoology into our daily lives.
censorship is nothing new in china, and frankly i'm nto too surprised. there isn't any real need to make a big deal out of it.
...they want to be open but they just aren't ready for it big time yet. some of the older members of hte party are quite conservative, naturally they worry about the internet because it's so "free".
i hope that everhyone can understand teh position of hte chinese government nhere
please, since this article mentions something abuot normalizing trade with china, i hope that no slashdot reader is put off just because they're doing censorship in china. i'm sure that china will open up one day, but one step at a time, please.
you see china is doing a lot to open up, e.g. here in Hong Kong sar, we have a pretty free society.
this raises an interesting question. you would have to proceed with caution here, since if you do everything at work, you may find that your employer owns the changes, not you, even though derivative works of your software woudl also have to be GPL since the program was GPLed in the first place. the GPL is legal as any other license and should be enforced to its fullest extent. any modifications the company makes, it may feel free not to release them and use them for personal use (i am no legal expert, maybe someone can verify this) but in the case that it does decide to release them, it must be GPLed, WITH SOURCE. if they don't like that but they still use the software, sue them. the win-win situation is if you can work out soemthing with youur employer, that woudl be nice :-)
what kind of patent is this? i certainly do not see any innovation in this. this has gone too far. a patent, is meant to be an enticement to produce innovation so that the world can become a better place, witht eh inventors gettin credit for it. how could a "method to update" software be granted ?! in all, it's a very simple mechanism, and i know that there are programs that do similar stuff, this isn't new. but in all, the patent is ok with me. but what they will do with it, we'll have to see. i certainly won't be trusting any microsoft assurances as far as patent-persuing goes, because they've shown themsevles to be untrustworthy. i've already stated a very good example here before. you may all have heard of getright, and now they ahve a patent. for ftp downloading, it's nothing more than a couple of clever ftp commnads combined. (REST, RETR, mainly and PASV for passive mode). i've been doing that on my command line ftp for a long time. and getright actually has a patent for it?! to get back to the point, it's a little bit like re-inventing stuff, since these things have been around for a long time. where's microsoft been all this time when _their_ supposely invented stuff was created ?
it is indeed a sign of relief. an isp probably has several hundred users, or even thousands of them, how can an ISP possibly moniter all those users and what htey are posting up on the internet? it's up to the users to behave here, and the real responsibility should lie within the user. and would it be possible to moniter emails and what goes in and out? putting lack of manpower aside, i believe it would be pretty unethical. it's a total breach of privacy. however, this brings to a very important point. even though isps are not responsible for what the users do, it should be noted that should they, after complaint by the victim, not take appropriate action(s) to prevent this from further happening, i feel that the isp has a respnsibility here, and they should be sued. this applies to all sorts of harrassments, that includes not securing their email server so that junk gets relayed through them to me ...(i get spam in my yahoo mail :((( thank goodness for filters. it must be the greatest invention since sliced bread.)
gee, wouldn't non-disclosing the mozilla security bugs defeat the meaning of havign a "open-source" model? everyone who has used mozilla before (that includes me) knows that it's buggy and not working as well as we would like it to. but by non disclosing bugs in mozilla, you're depriving the right of others to know about this piece of software. gee, what if someone ELSE discovers about this bug, and then exploits it but mozilla keeps me in the dark just because it hasn't found a fix yet? i have a hunch that this is bad.
is there anyone out there who knows what kind of firwall they use , and what OS it runs on? well, i gues you're right. i'm from Hong Kong..yeh, i guess stuff go to into china through here. hey, but it's nice to see that nothing is being blcoked here..i can still view the nytimes. china will really need to loosen up if it wants to catch on to the net revolution.
there will be trouble because one of hte advantages of using keberos was that it's an open standard, so it's not jsut some crappy protocol that's reserved for one piece of software only. now that they changed the protocol to make it _proprietary_ (urgh.), developers may find it hard to make their apps work, since remember, the protocol's closed. even if they release it, it would be interesting to see if they might put restrictions on it/only disclose part of hte specifications? creating a proprietary protocol defeats the purpose of interoperability, but i'm sure that's what microsoft wants anyway. the chief software architect does not seem to know what interoperability means, nor does he want to know or care. so for those folks out there who want to take full advantage of ms windows 2000, looks like you will have to trash your unix servers. tough luck.
hm, how innovative. and weren't symlinks there long before the symlinks that microsoft's now inventing (sic) and publicising in the press pass section? an innovation for Windows, perhaps, but this is nothing new. and really, it's not new. microsoft has long known to be trying to mislead the public. remeber the linux myths article? when they said their OS has lower TOC when compared to UNIX, they actaully compared with solaris which is of course not right since linux != solaris (gee, i guess they were too dense to figure that out.) they made other studid comparisons, that just don't work out in reality. this one is newer. remember the dot truth is out there propaganda campaign? they want to make sun microsystems machines seem bad when compared with microsoft ones, when in fact we all know this is not true. numerous ISPs rely on Sun solaris for their servers. just let me try to recall _ONE_ isp using M$ windows NT/2000 ... mislead the public. twist the truth. deny the accusations. that's microsoft.
hi, yes, i admit that the program could be used to potentially compromise security on an nt box. but other tools out there are also potential securit compromisers. it's not that hard to crack NT really. install a parallel NT and then delete the SAM. it's that easy. so i guess NT must also be a cracking tool itself.
hello all, i just did a spec file today for the mandrake distro, though i guess it owuld work on redhat as well. i ran it and i must say that i was impressed with its looks, but i gues it's rather...flashy. not my type.
hi, patents was originally meant to do good, but we all know that it's not working right now, as the FSF have already pointed out. i remember one patent. getright. it's patented. i'm not sure why a software like that could be patented. it's just another download manager, that cleverly uses some ftp commands to allow resuming! in fact, those ftp commands were there _long_ before getright was invented. i could do resuming with any old ftp client, even the console based one that came with linux/Windows. i must say that getright is a nice tool but it certainly does _not_ deserve a patent. i read on the news that someone's trying to patent herself (in great britain, i think.) because of all the gene research going on...
hi all, i don't think that it should be restricted. the change in the crypto law's long overdue. too bad they didn't realise it until recently. i'm not in the US and it's nice to seee htat i can browse the web with a 128 bit enabled browser now. sure, you can create powerful stuff with clustering. berwulf is so cool!! but let's face it, the cold war's over man. stupid crypto laws just make everyone feel crappy ...
i'm from hongkong and i think i should put in my 2 cents here. you'll be surprised that the VCDs of Hong Kong movies come out not long after the movie's been taken down. (genuine ones i mean.) and the illegal (i prefer not to use pirated. it sounds worse than stealing. instead i use illegal becasue this only implies it's governed by law.) ones...well, let's just say that the people who make the illegal copies are extremely efficient. they tape them in the cinema, and then release them as VCDs. we all know that the movie industry would like p0ut the films up on the cinema as long as possible coz they can make money but this is not very good for the consumer. it's nice to see them (reluctantly) sign an agreement with Yahoo. oh ..and illegal copies of software/movie's down ..there used to be a lot more several years ago..
i don't like this decision. i got the legal DVD, i got a DVD drive i run Linux, and you don't let me play it event hough everything that i got is _legal_ and playing it on linux is _illegal_?! i don't understand the judge's logic. as already pointed out on opendvd, it's illogical that peple would make illegal DVD copies for the forseeable future because a blank DVD is so expensive. still, it's only natural that these corporations want to control the DVD market..well, isn't the government supposed to stop them, and help us consumers? they say that they have to protect the economic interests of the copyrights holder, but actually these companies have nothing to lose. i hope that the judge is only ignorant on this issue and is not really intentionally helping these companies. if so, then may God help him find the truth.