There is that word again. Creating html is design, not programming. Will somebody please tell me how creating html is programming. Html is not turing complete, or any programming for that matter. Now for javascript or CGI, that can be programming, but plain html, please. It's not like postscript, it's just a markup language for content and layout with no processes or procedures.
"what? not that code either? OK, I mean these header files -- um"
Right. I was beginning to get the feeling that I was the only one who read the article, saw that it listed only *.h files, and concluded that those files contained no code at all.
That caught my eye, because it made me realize how true it is.
But still, it reflects worries that exist in a lot of people, including myself.
"There is a small risk of dollar inflation due to the trade deficit. As long as there continue to be promising opportunities for foreign investment in the US, and as long as the dollar remains the worlds reserve currency, inflation should not be a problem."
But without that, which will be the jobs that replace the lost ones? That it the main question that keeps people worried. They are looking for the answer to the question "What job will I do?"
That question is different than 'how much unemployment will there be', because it addresses issues like career changes, relocation, and pay scales that greatly affect the people personally.
Macroeconomic talk doesn't answer that question, it only works on cumulatives, such as "GDP" and nationwide 'payroll' numbers. Who is to say that with this change it won't be a case where the sum grows despite creation of a new poor class, when the new riches are only for a smaller elite?
"Eventually, as other countries like India and China become richer, they will import more from the US, and the inflation issue will be even less of a concern"
But who knows how long from now is 'eventually'? Or better: How long until the unemployment numbers are good again. And how much inflation will have happened before then? Or in other words: how many goods will the prevailing salaries buy the worker then? More or less than today?
And: how much will China's policies regarding international currency exchange mess this all up?
For people to be confident about their personal future, there need to be answers to those questions.
... "outsourcing software development to India is a management fad in pursuit of cheap labor, for a type of work that does not lend itself to cheap labor en masse."... "he real savings really aren't that great"... "The quality isn't very good, and there are many risks".
Which is why the PHBs are going extreme and they are not simply oursourcing tasks or projects anymore. Now they are taking the whole department and moving it off-shore: off-shoring.
You know, PHBs think a lot like poker players: If you lose, double your bet and bluff your way through it. And also know when to start running with your money.
"It is far more expensive, in terms of hard currency, to live in the US than in India,"
Note that there is something called currency exchange rates...
"so naturally wages here have to be far higher."... and put two and two together:
Really, you're saying that the dollar is overvalued on the international market. When you say that things in the US are more expensive, compared to the rest of the world, in hard currency, then you're comparing values by using the international currency exchange rates.
The only thing that keeps a currency high in value is a worldwide demand for that currency. That demand is a result of a demand of products and services sold in that currency. The only way to keep that demand high is to have valuable products and services for sale on the international market.
Offshoring is a form of import. The companies doing the offshoring are sending dollars off-shore in exchange for a service. Hence, the offshoring increases the amount of dollars available on the international markets, which decreases the value of the dollar on the international markets (supply/demand). That is, unless there are new and more valuable products and services to be bought by the international markets from US companies with those dollars.
If there will not be better jobs to replace the lost jobs, the US currency will devaluate.
In addition to the devaluation of the Dollar, the demand for Indian services will increase the demand for the Rupee (Indian currency), which will increase its value, which will be visible in the international exchange rates [*1].
Devaluation of the dollar plus increased valuation of the Rupee will then make the pay differences lower, reducing the savings achieved with outsourcing, hence reducing the pressure on the salaries. The devaluation will increase the US exports, which will improve the job market.
Of course, the devaluation will also make imported goods more expensive for people to buy.
Now, the main question is, when will this process of change have stabilized: how long will many people be without jobs. And when it has stabilized, will that leave the US with a devaluated currency, or will the process of change leave the US with new and better jobs? For people personally, basically that last question translates into: will imported good stay as cheap or will they become more expensive.
That last sentence can help close the circle of understanding, because if the imported goods/services become more expensive (devaluation of dollar), then it will become more interesting to use domestic production/services. Meaning, return of jobs. In the alternative, if new US exports support a demand for the currency that keeps devaluation at bay, then the increase in exported services/goods will result in a better job market too, which keeping imported goods low priced.
So, while eventually there will be jobs again, besides the question about what the transitional period will be like, it is still unknown whether after the jobs return imported goods are still cheaper than domestic goods.
All of this is exactly the reason why Mr Alan Greenspan of the "Fed" is watching the inflation rate so closely, because it is an aggregate of the economy, in terms of both the domestic production and consumption (jobs) and the imports/exports and currency valuations (prices)....
[*1] On this particular issue, China's monetary policy is a whole topic on its own...
You just have insulted a lot of people very close to Linus... Linus pretty much doesn't have just one right-hand man, but a whole team. Plus, quite few of them regularly bite his hand because there are disagreements. Linus is a very central person, not because he has a title (such as in most organisations), but because he is a good reasoner, has very good insight and ideas, and understands very well how 'the pack' runs...
Other than jokingly referred to as such, he is definitely not the 'fearless leader', because sometimes it takes people to disagree with him, and just go ahead and do the thing that he thinks should not be done, for example to make the now wonderful kernel debugger.
Organisations build on the command structure, and strive to create agreement, or appoint 'decision makers' in case of no agreement. That creates the hierarchy of officers, bosses, managers, chiefs, and workers/soldiers. Open Source development can deal very well with disagreement without the need to force decisions.
Now, that doesn't mean that companies should start using the 'Open Source' development method for their products, becaus that method only works 100% for open source products...
The DEC Alpha processor unfortunately has not seen much (any?) development in the last five years...
A 'kick-ass' 64 bit processor, long before its time, from a company called Digital that found itself in a litigation about patents with Intel, that ended with a settlement that sort of made both parties happy. But in the mean time, (IIRC), Compaq had bought the part of Digital that made the processor and, basically, did not do much with it. The Alpha would need a significantly lower clock speed than AMD/Intel chips for the same performance.
A lot of 64-bit preparations on Linux and GNU tools have been done thanks to the Alpha. IIRC, SGI was involved in a lot of that too. Another legacy of the Alpha is the FSB of the AMD Athlon processor series.
More information with thanks to google. The model number of the Alpha were '21064' and later '21164' (the first with 'kick-ass' performance of his time).
You know, because you use Mozilla Firebird and enjoy life without popup ads, and with default tabbed browsing, and you read this article only because.... because... hmm..
Maybe I should begin selling unlimited 'airplane ticket'. It will be a piece of paper (ticket) with an airplane on it, that you, the proud owner can do unlimited things with, such as taking it with you on your next airplane flight. Yes it is a wonderful ticket. The airplane ticket will also offer unlimited beverage service, when it is used to provide the service of letting beverages placed on it. It has a mileage plan too, the plan is to accumulate them as much as possible. And it can give generous tips, such as "don't eat that yellow snow".
They then must not be advertising 'unlimited Internet access' or 'unlimited broadband Internet', but they must advertise 'unlimited 20GB chunk of the Internet'. Either that, or each advertisement must contain the small print that tells potential buyer that there are limits.
There is no assumption involved. un-limited is the word 'limited', which we pretty much agree on means a restriction of any kind, preceded by a word that means 'devoid of', e.g. no limits. period. Yes unlimited does mean 'we do not limit the time of day you connect', and at the same time is also means 'we do not limit the connection time', because any such limit would make the service not unlimited, because there is a limit.
What the providers mean is, 'the limits are so high that most of you will never know that they exist'. Well, in english we call that 'virtually unlimited', not plain unlimited, and they should advertise it as such or put up with the nasty bandwidth hogs.
Just like the mail-in rebated in the ads, they can say 'Free* thingamaling' and then '*) after $30 mail-in rebate and $25 store mail-in rebate' in smaller print below. So, while they can say 'free', they have to clearly include the small print. Advertising 'unlimited internet' and then having limits not listed in the advertisement is false advertising.
I'm very sad that especially recently, this forum is more and more becoming a place to formulate angry responses riddled with unnecessary personal insults. Especially, because the people writing the worst insults are probably sugarsweet in real life, for fear of being put in their place for their childish behaviour.
"Yes, but all those countries governments have changed over time."
Oh, I didn't realize the last name of the president was Washington. Silly me thinking it was Bush. Ok it isn't fair to take your words out of context.
But seriously, even in terms of political parties, the US government did change too. For example, the democratic party was founded in 1972, and the history of the republican party doesn't go back before 1854. And the birth of those parties constituted quite a large change in the US government, wouldn't you say? Btw, what happened to the Whigs?
While I could be convinced that the US is the oldest democracy, it does go a bit far to claim that the US government is the oldest unchanged government. And that's a good thing too, because times change and societies change, hence governments must change with society. That is the whole point of democracy, that the government is a reflection of the people that vote.
(which is why I am happy (but sceptic) about the new campaign contribution limits, but that is a different subject)
Well, in the country with in its history legends such as Buffalo Bill and a long history of fighting racial inequality, there is a lot less silk-glove-handling and you have to stand up for your rights. The government will not just do it for you, you have to get up and make a stand, and then maybe you will get help. Or maybe not, but that doesn't mean that you will lose. But you will lose when you are lazy.
"It is merely a distraction to make the OS community waste time."
If you honestly think that the actual kernel development has slowed down even a bit because of this, then maybe you should ponder if a devoted kernel developer such as the people contributing to the Linux kernel would choose to reduce any precious time spent kernel coding because of this...
Many people contribute to Linux because it is both fun and an intellectual challenge. Similar to the motives of an artist spending a lot of time and effort making a piece of art for a public place, to contribute to such a project gives a feeling of pride and self-worth. Reading the latest SCO gibberish and/. , groklaw, mainstream media, or stock speculative traders responses does not, and therefore is not likely to distract the core developers from their passions.
What SCO is doing is damaging GNU/Linux in the marketplace, but technically it is not slowing it down. The technical improvements in the Linux kernel are just not as visible to 'the market' until this is all over. To a company faced with these tactics from a competitor that may be devastating, because a dip in sales combined with large legal fees would be very bad for the cash-flow, but Linux will just bounce back stronger than ever when these lawyer games are over.
"if the project forks, you can "fork" it right back"
Right.
Article: "With proprietary software, forking generally does not take place since development is centralized within a firm and disciplined by market forces"
So with closed-source, the fork happens between the companies, and it never forks back (such as MS Money and Quicken, or Borland C++ and Microsoft C++, or Yahoo IM and AOL IM).
Saying that open source forks badly and closed source never forks is like saying that there was ever only one version of Unix...
Great, another Anonymous Coward calling people dumbass on/. after posting a response that very clearly shows that the posted didn't read very well what was written.
I didn't say that you could hear yourself scream, neither did the post that I responded to say that you couldn't hear yourself scream. The post said that you wouldn't hear the explosion and that there is no air and no sound in space.
Most probably, you were trying to call Mr Robert Roy Britt who wrote the article on space.com a 'dumbass'. Well, besides that there is a reason why you are posting anonymously on/., and he is a senior science writer making his living writing articles, he is not a dumbass at all. If you read the article carefully, then the sentence 'we wouldn't be able to hear the sound' describes 'we' hearing the sound of shouting by the 'brave and clever astronaut' mentioned right before that. Nowhere does it say that the brave and clever astronaut wouldn't hear her own voice. In fact, knowing how sounds are produced and perceived by humans, I'm pretty sure that during the first and only shout possible by the brave astronaut using her last breath of air would be heard by her, due to the fact that the soundwaves are carried through inside her own head. Ever wonder wby many people think they sound strange when they hear their own voice from a recording for the first time? It's because people hear their own voice over the air plus through their heads.
"as open space doesn't have a thick enough medium to transmit a "normal" shockwave"
Yes it does, read the article about black holes that make sounds.
"any reasonably sized explosion wouldn't be audible to the human ear"
My point is that 1) it would be audible because you would hear the debree hitting you, which is very much part of the explosion and 2) it doesn't matter whether or not you hear is, because he said that you wouldn't hear it because there is no air in space, hence no sound. Which is just wrong, sounds can be transmitted by any gas, not just the mixture we all air, and there definitely is gas in space. And I gave links to articles that explain it all.
"Throwing more programmers at a problem doesn't work. Read the mythical man-month for an explanation of why that is so. That (some) managers think it works is more a result of their not knowing how to do their own job than of it being true."
If you read the post carefully, you will see that I assume that the project is underfunded. How else can a software be underfunded but to have an insufficient amount of coders? I'm not talking about projects where deadlines that are too steep, those are the ones where the mythical man-month comes in.
"it'd explode instantaneously, and no, you -wouldn't- hear it, it's in SPACE, there's no AIR, so there's no SOUND-"
Actually, if you would be looking at the satellite in space and see it explode, you would very much hear it. While it is true that the near absence of air means that a person would not hear any sound from a shockware that travels through the air, but from the explosion that person would very well hear the many high-velocity particles ticking, and thunking against his/her vessel. If you have experienced any explosions of significance, or have enough imagination, you will know what kind of rain of particles I'm talking about. Just a week ago, astronauts were shaken up by a sound that probably was produced by such a space particle. So you would hear the explosion in space, just differently than on earth.
Now about the no air - no sound thing: Things like "there is no sound in space" that they teach kids in high school are ususally oversimplified or just plain wrong. Did you know that black holes actually emit sounds?
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"programming HTML"
There is that word again. Creating html is design, not programming. Will somebody please tell me how creating html is programming. Html is not turing complete, or any programming for that matter. Now for javascript or CGI, that can be programming, but plain html, please. It's not like postscript, it's just a markup language for content and layout with no processes or procedures.
"Linux was/is a derivative of Minix."
Linux was a Minix replacement, not a derivative.
Linus Torvalds originally used the Minix OS on his system which he replaced by his own OS.
"what? not that code either? OK, I mean these header files -- um"
Right. I was beginning to get the feeling that I was the only one who read the article, saw that it listed only *.h files, and concluded that those files contained no code at all.
"Lou Dobbs has become a populist scare-monger."
That caught my eye, because it made me realize how true it is.
But still, it reflects worries that exist in a lot of people, including myself.
"There is a small risk of dollar inflation due to the trade deficit. As long as there continue to be promising opportunities for foreign investment in the US, and as long as the dollar remains the worlds reserve currency, inflation should not be a problem."
But without that, which will be the jobs that replace the lost ones? That it the main question that keeps people worried. They are looking for the answer to the question "What job will I do?"
That question is different than 'how much unemployment will there be', because it addresses issues like career changes, relocation, and pay scales that greatly affect the people personally.
Macroeconomic talk doesn't answer that question, it only works on cumulatives, such as "GDP" and nationwide 'payroll' numbers. Who is to say that with this change it won't be a case where the sum grows despite creation of a new poor class, when the new riches are only for a smaller elite?
"Eventually, as other countries like India and China become richer, they will import more from the US, and the inflation issue will be even less of a concern"
But who knows how long from now is 'eventually'? Or better: How long until the unemployment numbers are good again. And how much inflation will have happened before then? Or in other words: how many goods will the prevailing salaries buy the worker then? More or less than today?
And: how much will China's policies regarding international currency exchange mess this all up?
For people to be confident about their personal future, there need to be answers to those questions.
Questions, questions, questions... And how come it seems that the majority is worrying less and less? I must be worrying too much.
... "outsourcing software development to India is a management fad in pursuit of cheap labor, for a type of work that does not lend itself to cheap labor en masse." ... "he real savings really aren't that great" ... "The quality isn't very good, and there are many risks".
Which is why the PHBs are going extreme and they are not simply oursourcing tasks or projects anymore. Now they are taking the whole department and moving it off-shore: off-shoring.
You know, PHBs think a lot like poker players: If you lose, double your bet and bluff your way through it. And also know when to start running with your money.
"It is far more expensive, in terms of hard currency, to live in the US than in India,"
... and put two and two together:
...
Note that there is something called currency exchange rates...
"so naturally wages here have to be far higher."
Really, you're saying that the dollar is overvalued on the international market. When you say that things in the US are more expensive, compared to the rest of the world, in hard currency, then you're comparing values by using the international currency exchange rates.
The only thing that keeps a currency high in value is a worldwide demand for that currency. That demand is a result of a demand of products and services sold in that currency. The only way to keep that demand high is to have valuable products and services for sale on the international market.
Offshoring is a form of import. The companies doing the offshoring are sending dollars off-shore in exchange for a service. Hence, the offshoring increases the amount of dollars available on the international markets, which decreases the value of the dollar on the international markets (supply/demand). That is, unless there are new and more valuable products and services to be bought by the international markets from US companies with those dollars.
If there will not be better jobs to replace the lost jobs, the US currency will devaluate.
In addition to the devaluation of the Dollar, the demand for Indian services will increase the demand for the Rupee (Indian currency), which will increase its value, which will be visible in the international exchange rates [*1].
Devaluation of the dollar plus increased valuation of the Rupee will then make the pay differences lower, reducing the savings achieved with outsourcing, hence reducing the pressure on the salaries. The devaluation will increase the US exports, which will improve the job market.
Of course, the devaluation will also make imported goods more expensive for people to buy.
Now, the main question is, when will this process of change have stabilized: how long will many people be without jobs. And when it has stabilized, will that leave the US with a devaluated currency, or will the process of change leave the US with new and better jobs? For people personally, basically that last question translates into: will imported good stay as cheap or will they become more expensive.
That last sentence can help close the circle of understanding, because if the imported goods/services become more expensive (devaluation of dollar), then it will become more interesting to use domestic production/services. Meaning, return of jobs. In the alternative, if new US exports support a demand for the currency that keeps devaluation at bay, then the increase in exported services/goods will result in a better job market too, which keeping imported goods low priced.
So, while eventually there will be jobs again, besides the question about what the transitional period will be like, it is still unknown whether after the jobs return imported goods are still cheaper than domestic goods.
All of this is exactly the reason why Mr Alan Greenspan of the "Fed" is watching the inflation rate so closely, because it is an aggregate of the economy, in terms of both the domestic production and consumption (jobs) and the imports/exports and currency valuations (prices).
[*1] On this particular issue, China's monetary policy is a whole topic on its own...
You just have insulted a lot of people very close to Linus... Linus pretty much doesn't have just one right-hand man, but a whole team. Plus, quite few of them regularly bite his hand because there are disagreements. Linus is a very central person, not because he has a title (such as in most organisations), but because he is a good reasoner, has very good insight and ideas, and understands very well how 'the pack' runs...
Other than jokingly referred to as such, he is definitely not the 'fearless leader', because sometimes it takes people to disagree with him, and just go ahead and do the thing that he thinks should not be done, for example to make the now wonderful kernel debugger.
Organisations build on the command structure, and strive to create agreement, or appoint 'decision makers' in case of no agreement. That creates the hierarchy of officers, bosses, managers, chiefs, and workers/soldiers. Open Source development can deal very well with disagreement without the need to force decisions.
Now, that doesn't mean that companies should start using the 'Open Source' development method for their products, becaus that method only works 100% for open source products...
The DEC Alpha processor unfortunately has not seen much (any?) development in the last five years...
A 'kick-ass' 64 bit processor, long before its time, from a company called Digital that found itself in a litigation about patents with Intel, that ended with a settlement that sort of made both parties happy. But in the mean time, (IIRC), Compaq had bought the part of Digital that made the processor and, basically, did not do much with it. The Alpha would need a significantly lower clock speed than AMD/Intel chips for the same performance.
A lot of 64-bit preparations on Linux and GNU tools have been done thanks to the Alpha. IIRC, SGI was involved in a lot of that too. Another legacy of the Alpha is the FSB of the AMD Athlon processor series.
More information with thanks to google. The model number of the Alpha were '21064' and later '21164' (the first with 'kick-ass' performance of his time).
Feel free to correct me when I'm wrong...
You know, because you use Mozilla Firebird and enjoy life without popup ads, and with default tabbed browsing, and you read this article only because.... because... hmm..
bye.
Right.
Maybe I should begin selling unlimited 'airplane ticket'. It will be a piece of paper (ticket) with an airplane on it, that you, the proud owner can do unlimited things with, such as taking it with you on your next airplane flight. Yes it is a wonderful ticket. The airplane ticket will also offer unlimited beverage service, when it is used to provide the service of letting beverages placed on it. It has a mileage plan too, the plan is to accumulate them as much as possible. And it can give generous tips, such as "don't eat that yellow snow".
They then must not be advertising 'unlimited Internet access' or 'unlimited broadband Internet', but they must advertise 'unlimited 20GB chunk of the Internet'. Either that, or each advertisement must contain the small print that tells potential buyer that there are limits.
There is no assumption involved. un-limited is the word 'limited', which we pretty much agree on means a restriction of any kind, preceded by a word that means 'devoid of', e.g. no limits. period. Yes unlimited does mean 'we do not limit the time of day you connect', and at the same time is also means 'we do not limit the connection time', because any such limit would make the service not unlimited, because there is a limit.
What the providers mean is, 'the limits are so high that most of you will never know that they exist'. Well, in english we call that 'virtually unlimited', not plain unlimited, and they should advertise it as such or put up with the nasty bandwidth hogs.
Just like the mail-in rebated in the ads, they can say 'Free* thingamaling' and then '*) after $30 mail-in rebate and $25 store mail-in rebate' in smaller print below. So, while they can say 'free', they have to clearly include the small print. Advertising 'unlimited internet' and then having limits not listed in the advertisement is false advertising.
I'm very sad that especially recently, this forum is more and more becoming a place to formulate angry responses riddled with unnecessary personal insults. Especially, because the people writing the worst insults are probably sugarsweet in real life, for fear of being put in their place for their childish behaviour.
It shows me an ad for OSDN devchannel.org. Maybe you're using windows and a spyware program on your computer is replacing the ads?
Why not boot a mepis (debian) live CD, and try again?
1972 -> 1792. Sorry for the typo in the year. Obviously Thomas Jefferson didn't live in the nineteen-seventies...
"Yes, but all those countries governments have changed over time."
Oh, I didn't realize the last name of the president was Washington. Silly me thinking it was Bush. Ok it isn't fair to take your words out of context.
But seriously, even in terms of political parties, the US government did change too. For example, the democratic party was founded in 1972, and the history of the republican party doesn't go back before 1854. And the birth of those parties constituted quite a large change in the US government, wouldn't you say? Btw, what happened to the Whigs?
While I could be convinced that the US is the oldest democracy, it does go a bit far to claim that the US government is the oldest unchanged government. And that's a good thing too, because times change and societies change, hence governments must change with society. That is the whole point of democracy, that the government is a reflection of the people that vote.
(which is why I am happy (but sceptic) about the new campaign contribution limits, but that is a different subject)
Well, in the country with in its history legends such as Buffalo Bill and a long history of fighting racial inequality, there is a lot less silk-glove-handling and you have to stand up for your rights. The government will not just do it for you, you have to get up and make a stand, and then maybe you will get help. Or maybe not, but that doesn't mean that you will lose. But you will lose when you are lazy.
"It is merely a distraction to make the OS community waste time."
/. , groklaw, mainstream media, or stock speculative traders responses does not, and therefore is not likely to distract the core developers from their passions.
If you honestly think that the actual kernel development has slowed down even a bit because of this, then maybe you should ponder if a devoted kernel developer such as the people contributing to the Linux kernel would choose to reduce any precious time spent kernel coding because of this...
Many people contribute to Linux because it is both fun and an intellectual challenge. Similar to the motives of an artist spending a lot of time and effort making a piece of art for a public place, to contribute to such a project gives a feeling of pride and self-worth. Reading the latest SCO gibberish and
What SCO is doing is damaging GNU/Linux in the marketplace, but technically it is not slowing it down. The technical improvements in the Linux kernel are just not as visible to 'the market' until this is all over. To a company faced with these tactics from a competitor that may be devastating, because a dip in sales combined with large legal fees would be very bad for the cash-flow, but Linux will just bounce back stronger than ever when these lawyer games are over.
So, /. can request tax-free status? And then also /. subscriptions become tax-deductible?
"if the project forks, you can "fork" it right back"
Right.
Article: "With proprietary software, forking generally does not take place since development is centralized within a firm and disciplined by market forces"
So with closed-source, the fork happens between the companies, and it never forks back (such as MS Money and Quicken, or Borland C++ and Microsoft C++, or Yahoo IM and AOL IM).
Saying that open source forks badly and closed source never forks is like saying that there was ever only one version of Unix...
Great, another Anonymous Coward calling people dumbass on /. after posting a response that very clearly shows that the posted didn't read very well what was written.
/., and he is a senior science writer making his living writing articles, he is not a dumbass at all. If you read the article carefully, then the sentence 'we wouldn't be able to hear the sound' describes 'we' hearing the sound of shouting by the 'brave and clever astronaut' mentioned right before that. Nowhere does it say that the brave and clever astronaut wouldn't hear her own voice. In fact, knowing how sounds are produced and perceived by humans, I'm pretty sure that during the first and only shout possible by the brave astronaut using her last breath of air would be heard by her, due to the fact that the soundwaves are carried through inside her own head. Ever wonder wby many people think they sound strange when they hear their own voice from a recording for the first time? It's because people hear their own voice over the air plus through their heads.
I didn't say that you could hear yourself scream, neither did the post that I responded to say that you couldn't hear yourself scream. The post said that you wouldn't hear the explosion and that there is no air and no sound in space.
Most probably, you were trying to call Mr Robert Roy Britt who wrote the article on space.com a 'dumbass'. Well, besides that there is a reason why you are posting anonymously on
"as open space doesn't have a thick enough medium to transmit a "normal" shockwave"
Yes it does, read the article about black holes that make sounds.
"any reasonably sized explosion wouldn't be audible to the human ear"
My point is that 1) it would be audible because you would hear the debree hitting you, which is very much part of the explosion and 2) it doesn't matter whether or not you hear is, because he said that you wouldn't hear it because there is no air in space, hence no sound. Which is just wrong, sounds can be transmitted by any gas, not just the mixture we all air, and there definitely is gas in space. And I gave links to articles that explain it all.
"Throwing more programmers at a problem doesn't work. Read the mythical man-month for an explanation of why that is so. That (some) managers think it works is more a result of their not knowing how to do their own job than of it being true."
If you read the post carefully, you will see that I assume that the project is underfunded. How else can a software be underfunded but to have an insufficient amount of coders? I'm not talking about projects where deadlines that are too steep, those are the ones where the mythical man-month comes in.
That sounds very familiar. But you're mainly making the point that outsourcing adds a lot of new problems.
Why then is it that outsourcing seems to happen a lot: Are you wrong, or do they not get it?
"it'd explode instantaneously, and no, you -wouldn't- hear it, it's in SPACE, there's no AIR, so there's no SOUND-"
Actually, if you would be looking at the satellite in space and see it explode, you would very much hear it. While it is true that the near absence of air means that a person would not hear any sound from a shockware that travels through the air, but from the explosion that person would very well hear the many high-velocity particles ticking, and thunking against his/her vessel. If you have experienced any explosions of significance, or have enough imagination, you will know what kind of rain of particles I'm talking about. Just a week ago, astronauts were shaken up by a sound that probably was produced by such a space particle. So you would hear the explosion in space, just differently than on earth.
Now about the no air - no sound thing: Things like "there is no sound in space" that they teach kids in high school are ususally oversimplified or just plain wrong. Did you know that black holes actually emit sounds?