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You didn't read the article pointed by the parent. There also the same evidence existed. Apparently Blood can be found due to many reasons if the person has used your car for some times. They should try to find out how old that blood is. But I guess that is not possible. It is only possible to check who's blood it is.
If the Car blood can be problematic then of course the house blood could also be problematic.
When did either of these words arrive from hindi. Tube is from English, everybody knows that. And Goo, well it may not originate from English, but even in 1900 they were using it. It also definitely has no Hindi origin.
I guess this word has been in use in the parent posters social circle, but to claim that this is hindi is funny.
Yes, lots of Indians have been brought up in so much Anglicised societies, that they wouldn't be able to differentiate english and hindi words. Lots of these guys & gals wouldn't be able to speak a single sentence of pure hindi. Pure Hindi as in hindi not containing English words. I am not talking about Pure Hindi as in not using Urdu words where Hindi equivalent exist but are not so common, which is far more difficult. Actually the dialect spoken by these people has been named Hinglish.
Why are you so afraid. Did you lose some near and dear in that blast. I expect it must be personal, otherwise there is no need to be that afraid. After all more people die in car accidents due to another persons mistake, every year. Much more than the number of people died in that single incident. Terrorism is only dangerous to people who trade their liberty due to the fear. You have been terrorised. Maybe you should lock up yourself in a room somewhere and hope that nobody finds out where you are. It will be very safe in that room.
Actually GPLv3 wouldn't matter to Linus, but the problem is that Linux kernel depends on a lot of GPL programs including the glibc. Without the glibc, the kernel is actually quite useless. So the problem is that if GPLv3 comes into effect, Linux kernel even though is GPLv2 it will be for all practical purposes GPLv3. Because even though there is no compatibility problem due to the "v2 or later" clause, but the users can ask for the ability to modify the glibc. Which basically makes the system impossible to contain DRM. The only solution is to rewrite glibc with a different license. I am sure there are other clones but the kernel people don't use them, and it will be difficult to validate them.
So the problem is that the embedded folks will have a real problem in using Linux for their system if they want to embed DRM. Lots of mobile and other manufacturers have been expecting to use the DRM on their system, because they want to make sure that the system remains faithful to them. This will cause the inroads that the Linux kernel is having in the embedded world to slow down to a crawl. This is a problem for Linus and his comrades as it means that Linux will not be running on all systems ie total world domination will be delayed appreciably.
In my opinion this is a problem, but a problem which we can live with if we want open devices in the future we should be willing to wait some more time. Without the GPLv3 there will be no DRM free future. We have only recently started to see the benefits of GPLv2, after about 15 years of GPLv2. I would expect another 10-15 years before we will see the benefits of GPLv3, but the wait should be worth it.
It is still better to have a DRM free future, rather than having total DRM future. It would have been nice if GPLv3 was delayed by about 5 years, when those manufacturers would have been so used to Linux that removing linux would not be an option. In that sense GPLv3 is a bit premature.
Just remember why they are doing this. They believe that congress is slowly but surely moving towards patent reform. And they hope that this step would help to quell the fears of congress and avoid the reform. They are no way interested in reducing the number of patents they want to obtain every year. They are getting the most patents in any given year, and ofcourse by definition they must be getting the most number of frivolous patents also in any given year. There is no need for applause till they lobby for patent reforms, specifically rejecting software patents.
One more point steel is not as hard as sand. And that is what you will find quite frequently, in dust. Now agreed that it will be much better than DVD or CD, but the density is much more. I don't know about the CRC of Blue Ray, but if it is not great, it will be really bad. Ever tried to watch a scratched VCD. Most software players throw up. And that is when it is just audio/video data which can be skipped. What happens to the game data. A single mismatch can cause the whole (multi GB) file to be unreadable. Probably making the whole game unplayable.
You are missing the fact that he is not really posting the statistics, which will very well depend on the site. But he is posting the change in the percentage of MacOS users. This thing although will be quite subjective but should not be that much subjective. And he did post other website data too. His statistics was quite relevent, but since you did not post the change in the statistics, yours is irrelevent.
That is a good reason not to use vim, and to use emacs, or some other editor. When you work on the other systems you know that it is not that other editor, and you will make less mistakes.
There are two types of people. 1) Those who can think very clearly and can write whatever they need to in one go, without ever having to revise it. 2) Those who cannot write even a single line without needing to use the delete feature 10 times.
For the type 2) people vi is not a useable editor. At least not for anything that requires writing more than a couple of lines. I unfortunately am a type 2) person and have to live with emacs. IOW vi is for perfect people, and I am actually a blathering idiot when it comes to typing in my thoughts or code.
I still use vi quite a lot, for quick editing. But if I have to write more than a couple of lines then I start searching for emacs.
I am quite used to the two editors. Since when you are within emacs you can do almost anything, there is very little motivation to learn another editor. This is why I hate having to use any other program that tries to make me learn its editor, and does not provide emacs key bindings.
It is good that some of the emacs key bindings are used in many editors like the firefox input box.
Take away a persons respectful life. If he has no way to earn a respectful living, the only option for him is crimes. And there is every temptation to become a terrorists. That is why the war on terrorism is so f**cked up. Fast erosion of freedoms is another. Remember, he who will give up some freedom for some security (convenience) deseves neither.
Ever thought that maybe the muslims think like that too. Actually christians and muslims are a very closely related set of religions. They are very prone to forcing their religion on others, because spreading their religion is considered an act of faith. That is what the history has been. If you have doubts then look for forced conversions that have happened in the past in India, Africa, and Americas. In the Americas Christians committed whole scale genocide. But nowadays majority of the christians are not orthodox, partly due to scientific education, partly due to awareness. The USA is going a bit backwards these days, but hopefully it will improve in time. Islamic countries are still poor and illiterate. So they are still very orthodox and still prone to kill people for small things. Before you hate muslims, it will be instructive to look at your own history and understand that the muslim world needs more scientific education, rather than counter terrorism. With attacks like Iraq and Afghanistan you are going to make more terrorists not less. It is only a matter of time. If Christians could become moderates, Muslims could become too.
So you feel that the terrorists are so much motivated to kill Americans that they will do that till nobody lives. Lets see how many they have killed since 2001. Are they really more than the number of people that have been born. The attitude that you have is a totally psychotic fear of the unknown. People having this kind of fear are deeply and fatally religious. Well IANAPM (I am not a psychology major;-). Seriously you should get afraid of losing your freedom only when you see that the ruling party is taking away all your rights and is making your elections irrelevent throught closed source voting machines. Actually the enemy within (the politician kind) is more dangerous than the one outside.
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Actually the intent of GPL was simple to allow any user to fix the software or hardware. If that cannot be done then the intent of the GPL is lost. So GPLv2 has developed a bug and Tivo is exploiting this bug. So GPLv3 is an attempt to fix the bug. Currently the fix (GPLv3) is undergoing peer-review. I believe it will be fixed in about 10 years when most of the people will understand why they need this bug-fix. Till then we have a lot of software under a buggy license.
Actually RMS makes enough for his needs and he thinks it is not necessary to steal from others to make a living. That is exactly what the Tivo is trying to do. Tivo is stealing free software to sell its devices. If you prefer to deal with thieves that is your right, but I would prefer that don't steal it from me. If I was using BSD, then I guess I have already given the right to you to use my software. But when I use GPL it is definitely my intention that nobody uses it without giving me the rights that I had with the original software, ie to fix my hardware myself. I should not depend on Tivo to fix their bugs, or to prevent them from adding malicious bugs.
People who write software for commercial development don't write in BSD. They either dual license their code into GPL and proprietory license. Or simply use proprietory license. There is no point in using BSD license for writing commericial code, because it will be used by your competitor. Ofcourse if you want to be a viable competitor to an OSS project then you would love it if it was BSD licensed. Either way BSD sucks. BSD has only one use writing protocols that you want that everybody uses the same stack for interoperability. There maybe a benefit to writing basic processing engines for an application in BSD (eg if Gecko was BSD it would become ubiquitoes very fast). But these uses are only for OSS projects. Writing whole applications in BSD is IMNSHO stupid, particularly for commercial development.
I don't know which commercial developers you have seen moving towards BSD but they couldn't be very bright.
Actually the GPLv3 is not an attempt to solve the DRM problem. It is a just a bug fix to the previous GPLv2 which allowed malicious companies to use free software and make it unfree using DRM. That is all. It is not a solution to the DRM problem, for that you indeed have to try to change the laws. But atleast the companies will not be able to use Free Software for implementing DRM. If they have to use DRM they should get to write buggy (and easily hackable) software for it. They should get no help from the superiour Free Software.
A company is not a good OSS citizen if it doesn't share alike, period. There are no ifs and buts about it. It is rigid idealogues that get anything done in this world, not the convinience loving people like you and me. They are the ones that change the reality for you and me. We are just the cogs in the wheel. They bring about any change that really happens. Of course there are good and bad idealogies. This one is a definite good, just like Software Patents is a definite bad. Copywrite is somewhere in the grey area, because Internet has changed the landscape. Incentives now are not as important as the need to disseminate the information. With more information more people will be there to create new information and we don't need incentives that much. For patents also the landscape has changed a lot, but they are still relevent, but it should be tempered with a critical eye towards obviousness. Software patents were never sane, just like patents on story ideas or judicial cases would be insane. Similarly Business ideas are also insane. Any patent over an abstract idea is insane. It should have a concrete implementation, which only uses that single idea and other ideas in the public domain. If you cannot demonstrate an application which depends on only this idea and ideas in the public domain then it should not be patentable. Also if a patentable idea is obvious then also it should not be patentable.
You haven't tried upgrading your kernel because some device does not work with the supported kernel and the new one has a fix for it. That is where you will be left out of the loop. Anyway, it is more a question of freedom. I am not against using NVidia drivers. I have bought NVidia devices because they work well, but I would like it if it was open sourced. Giving in to DRM means that new DRM'd devices will never open up.
Anyway what is that famous quote about freedom. Those who are willing to sacrifice some freedom for security (convenience in our case) deserve neither. I would prefer freedom but I am not great enough to sacrifice convenience for freedom.
The problem is that they will not be able to provide $150 computer. So the former will be able to dupe many people, into selling. Also just consider that Sony will start using Linux in their gaming console without paying anything back. How do you know that the device drivers that will be included in their linux source will actually work. They may just be sending some random commands, at all not like the ones required for the device. You will not be able to check it because this device will only be found in their system and their system will not allow you to run any other code other than their code.
I don't know why people want to go back to the days of look but don't touch hardware. Before it was the PC (As in proprietory OS's like windows), but PC is not going to be relevent in the future. It will be the Tivo's and the ipods (ie very small specific hardware) that will rule the future.
You are wrong about the intent of GPL. It was always to allow the user to fix the problems with his device. If you read some history, then you will find that it was born out of the desire to fix a Xerox Printer. This is exactly the same problem as in Tivo. And to add insult to injury, they are using GPL software. So obviously GPLv2 is flawed and that flaw must be fixed, hence the DRM fix. Stallman is for nothing the uber Hacker, he fixes licenses as well;-).
Who the heck cares if manufacturers want to create inflexible devices. The important thing is to provide an incentive to the manufacturers to provide flexible devices. If there are no incentives then ofcourse there will only be inflexible devices. GPLv3 is a necessary part of the incentive. And people who think that not allowing DRM will be sucide, forget that allowing DRM will be suicide (for the GPL anyway). Because it started because Xerox made a printer that could not be fixed. Allowing DRM will result in DRM'ed Devices that cannot be fixed although they have GPL software. The issue between Linus and FSS is that Linus wants ubiquitous Linux, while FSS wants software that can be modified by end user. There is a difference between the two goals, and I prefer the FSS's goal. There is no point in having Linux everywhere when you cannot fix the problems in it, at least on the devices that I am using.
But isn't it like the xerox printer that cannot be fixed, which started this whole thing in the first place. I think you mis-understand the motive of GPL. GPL is there to allow a user to fix their hardware and software. Whether the user has the knowhow is a different thing, but it should be possible for a programmer to fix their hardware and software without resorting to reverse-engineering or cracking.
Its not like Linux is the only GPL software in the world. It may be the most popular but there are many more. And there will be many more becoming GPLv3. I am hoping Apache and some others will adopt GPLv3.
Readline library is also a great library which will cause many projects to think strongly of whether to use GPLv3. I agree with you totally it will start slowly. GPL took about 5 years to get into the minds of developers, and then Linux helped to convert that into a snowball. Now the time of the kernel is gone, it is just a part of the infrastructure. Now we need another killer app that will propell GPLv3 to another dimension. What will it be we have to see. I think it could be anything. We will have to wait and see.
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You didn't read the article pointed by the parent. There also the same evidence existed. Apparently Blood can be found due to many reasons if the person has used your car for some times. They should try to find out how old that blood is. But I guess that is not possible. It is only possible to check who's blood it is.
If the Car blood can be problematic then of course the house blood could also be problematic.
When did either of these words arrive from hindi.
Tube is from English, everybody knows that.
And Goo, well it may not originate from English, but even in 1900 they were using it. It also definitely has no Hindi origin.
I guess this word has been in use in the parent posters social circle, but to claim that this is hindi is funny.
Yes, lots of Indians have been brought up in so much Anglicised societies, that they wouldn't be able to differentiate english and hindi words. Lots of these guys & gals wouldn't be able to speak a single sentence of pure hindi. Pure Hindi as in hindi not containing English words. I am not talking about Pure Hindi as in not using Urdu words where Hindi equivalent exist but are not so common, which is far more difficult. Actually the dialect spoken by these people has been named Hinglish.
Why are you so afraid. Did you lose some near and dear in that blast. I expect it must be personal, otherwise there is no need to be that afraid. After all more people die in car accidents due to another persons mistake, every year. Much more than the number of people died in that single incident. Terrorism is only dangerous to people who trade their liberty due to the fear. You have been terrorised. Maybe you should lock up yourself in a room somewhere and hope that nobody finds out where you are. It will be very safe in that room.
Actually GPLv3 wouldn't matter to Linus, but the problem is that Linux kernel depends on a lot of GPL programs including the glibc. Without the glibc, the kernel is actually quite useless. So the problem is that if GPLv3 comes into effect, Linux kernel even though is GPLv2 it will be for all practical purposes GPLv3. Because even though there is no compatibility problem due to the "v2 or later" clause, but the users can ask for the ability to modify the glibc. Which basically makes the system impossible to contain DRM. The only solution is to rewrite glibc with a different license. I am sure there are other clones but the kernel people don't use them, and it will be difficult to validate them.
So the problem is that the embedded folks will have a real problem in using Linux for their system if they want to embed DRM. Lots of mobile and other manufacturers have been expecting to use the DRM on their system, because they want to make sure that the system remains faithful to them. This will cause the inroads that the Linux kernel is having in the embedded world to slow down to a crawl. This is a problem for Linus and his comrades as it means that Linux will not be running on all systems ie total world domination will be delayed appreciably.
In my opinion this is a problem, but a problem which we can live with if we want open devices in the future we should be willing to wait some more time. Without the GPLv3 there will be no DRM free future. We have only recently started to see the benefits of GPLv2, after about 15 years of GPLv2. I would expect another 10-15 years before we will see the benefits of GPLv3, but the wait should be worth it.
It is still better to have a DRM free future, rather than having total DRM future. It would have been nice if GPLv3 was delayed by about 5 years, when those manufacturers would have been so used to Linux that removing linux would not be an option. In that sense GPLv3 is a bit premature.
Just remember why they are doing this. They believe that congress is slowly but surely moving towards patent reform. And they hope that this step would help to quell the fears of congress and avoid the reform.
They are no way interested in reducing the number of patents they want to obtain every year. They are getting the most patents in any given year, and ofcourse by definition they must be getting the most number of frivolous patents also in any given year.
There is no need for applause till they lobby for patent reforms, specifically rejecting software patents.
One more point steel is not as hard as sand. And that is what you will find quite frequently, in dust. Now agreed that it will be much better than DVD or CD, but the density is much more. I don't know about the CRC of Blue Ray, but if it is not great, it will be really bad. Ever tried to watch a scratched VCD. Most software players throw up. And that is when it is just audio/video data which can be skipped. What happens to the game data. A single mismatch can cause the whole (multi GB) file to be unreadable. Probably making the whole game unplayable.
You are missing the fact that he is not really posting the statistics, which will very well depend on the site. But he is posting the change in the percentage of MacOS users. This thing although will be quite subjective but should not be that much subjective. And he did post other website data too. His statistics was quite relevent, but since you did not post the change in the statistics, yours is irrelevent.
Not really. The swiss are a traditional bunch. They don't eat out that much. So the prices are high. If you are not always eating out, it is quite OK.
That is a good reason not to use vim, and to use emacs, or some other editor. When you work on the other systems you know that it is not that other editor, and you will make less mistakes.
There are two types of people.
1) Those who can think very clearly and can write whatever they need to in one go, without ever having to revise it.
2) Those who cannot write even a single line without needing to use the delete feature 10 times.
For the type 2) people vi is not a useable editor. At least not for anything that requires writing more than a couple of lines. I unfortunately am a type 2) person and have to live with emacs. IOW vi is for perfect people, and I am actually a blathering idiot when it comes to typing in my thoughts or code.
I still use vi quite a lot, for quick editing. But if I have to write more than a couple of lines then I start searching for emacs.
I am quite used to the two editors. Since when you are within emacs you can do almost anything, there is very little motivation to learn another editor. This is why I hate having to use any other program that tries to make me learn its editor, and does not provide emacs key bindings.
It is good that some of the emacs key bindings are used in many editors like the firefox input box.
Take away a persons respectful life. If he has no way to earn a respectful living, the only option for him is crimes. And there is every temptation to become a terrorists. That is why the war on terrorism is so f**cked up. Fast erosion of freedoms is another.
Remember, he who will give up some freedom for some security (convenience) deseves neither.
Ever thought that maybe the muslims think like that too. Actually christians and muslims are a very closely related set of religions. They are very prone to forcing their religion on others, because spreading their religion is considered an act of faith. That is what the history has been. If you have doubts then look for forced conversions that have happened in the past in India, Africa, and Americas. In the Americas Christians committed whole scale genocide. But nowadays majority of the christians are not orthodox, partly due to scientific education, partly due to awareness. The USA is going a bit backwards these days, but hopefully it will improve in time. Islamic countries are still poor and illiterate. So they are still very orthodox and still prone to kill people for small things.
Before you hate muslims, it will be instructive to look at your own history and understand that the muslim world needs more scientific education, rather than counter terrorism. With attacks like Iraq and Afghanistan you are going to make more terrorists not less. It is only a matter of time. If Christians could become moderates, Muslims could become too.
So you feel that the terrorists are so much motivated to kill Americans that they will do that till nobody lives. ;-).
Lets see how many they have killed since 2001. Are they really more than the number of people that have been born.
The attitude that you have is a totally psychotic fear of the unknown. People having this kind of fear are deeply and fatally religious.
Well IANAPM (I am not a psychology major
Seriously you should get afraid of losing your freedom only when you see that the ruling party is taking away all your rights and is making your elections irrelevent throught closed source voting machines. Actually the enemy within (the politician kind) is more dangerous than the one outside.
Not Ghandi.
Actually the intent of GPL was simple to allow any user to fix the software or hardware. If that cannot be done then the intent of the GPL is lost. So GPLv2 has developed a bug and Tivo is exploiting this bug. So GPLv3 is an attempt to fix the bug. Currently the fix (GPLv3) is undergoing peer-review. I believe it will be fixed in about 10 years when most of the people will understand why they need this bug-fix. Till then we have a lot of software under a buggy license.
Actually RMS makes enough for his needs and he thinks it is not necessary to steal from others to make a living. That is exactly what the Tivo is trying to do. Tivo is stealing free software to sell its devices. If you prefer to deal with thieves that is your right, but I would prefer that don't steal it from me. If I was using BSD, then I guess I have already given the right to you to use my software. But when I use GPL it is definitely my intention that nobody uses it without giving me the rights that I had with the original software, ie to fix my hardware myself. I should not depend on Tivo to fix their bugs, or to prevent them from adding malicious bugs.
People who write software for commercial development don't write in BSD. They either dual license their code into GPL and proprietory license. Or simply use proprietory license. There is no point in using BSD license for writing commericial code, because it will be used by your competitor. Ofcourse if you want to be a viable competitor to an OSS project then you would love it if it was BSD licensed. Either way BSD sucks. BSD has only one use writing protocols that you want that everybody uses the same stack for interoperability. There maybe a benefit to writing basic processing engines for an application in BSD (eg if Gecko was BSD it would become ubiquitoes very fast). But these uses are only for OSS projects. Writing whole applications in BSD is IMNSHO stupid, particularly for commercial development.
I don't know which commercial developers you have seen moving towards BSD but they couldn't be very bright.
Actually the GPLv3 is not an attempt to solve the DRM problem. It is a just a bug fix to the previous GPLv2 which allowed malicious companies to use free software and make it unfree using DRM. That is all. It is not a solution to the DRM problem, for that you indeed have to try to change the laws. But atleast the companies will not be able to use Free Software for implementing DRM. If they have to use DRM they should get to write buggy (and easily hackable) software for it. They should get no help from the superiour Free Software.
A company is not a good OSS citizen if it doesn't share alike, period. There are no ifs and buts about it.
It is rigid idealogues that get anything done in this world, not the convinience loving people like you and me. They are the ones that change the reality for you and me. We are just the cogs in the wheel. They bring about any change that really happens. Of course there are good and bad idealogies. This one is a definite good, just like Software Patents is a definite bad. Copywrite is somewhere in the grey area, because Internet has changed the landscape. Incentives now are not as important as the need to disseminate the information. With more information more people will be there to create new information and we don't need incentives that much. For patents also the landscape has changed a lot, but they are still relevent, but it should be tempered with a critical eye towards obviousness. Software patents were never sane, just like patents on story ideas or judicial cases would be insane. Similarly Business ideas are also insane. Any patent over an abstract idea is insane. It should have a concrete implementation, which only uses that single idea and other ideas in the public domain. If you cannot demonstrate an application which depends on only this idea and ideas in the public domain then it should not be patentable. Also if a patentable idea is obvious then also it should not be patentable.
You haven't tried upgrading your kernel because some device does not work with the supported kernel and the new one has a fix for it. That is where you will be left out of the loop. Anyway, it is more a question of freedom. I am not against using NVidia drivers. I have bought NVidia devices because they work well, but I would like it if it was open sourced. Giving in to DRM means that new DRM'd devices will never open up.
Anyway what is that famous quote about freedom. Those who are willing to sacrifice some freedom for security (convenience in our case) deserve neither. I would prefer freedom but I am not great enough to sacrifice convenience for freedom.
The problem is that they will not be able to provide $150 computer. So the former will be able to dupe many people, into selling.
Also just consider that Sony will start using Linux in their gaming console without paying anything back. How do you know that the device drivers that will be included in their linux source will actually work. They may just be sending some random commands, at all not like the ones required for the device. You will not be able to check it because this device will only be found in their system and their system will not allow you to run any other code other than their code.
I don't know why people want to go back to the days of look but don't touch hardware. Before it was the PC (As in proprietory OS's like windows), but PC is not going to be relevent in the future. It will be the Tivo's and the ipods (ie very small specific hardware) that will rule the future.
You are wrong about the intent of GPL. It was always to allow the user to fix the problems with his device. If you read some history, then you will find that it was born out of the desire to fix a Xerox Printer. This is exactly the same problem as in Tivo. And to add insult to injury, they are using GPL software. So obviously GPLv2 is flawed and that flaw must be fixed, hence the DRM fix. Stallman is for nothing the uber Hacker, he fixes licenses as well ;-).
Who the heck cares if manufacturers want to create inflexible devices. The important thing is to provide an incentive to the manufacturers to provide flexible devices. If there are no incentives then ofcourse there will only be inflexible devices. GPLv3 is a necessary part of the incentive.
And people who think that not allowing DRM will be sucide, forget that allowing DRM will be suicide (for the GPL anyway). Because it started because Xerox made a printer that could not be fixed. Allowing DRM will result in DRM'ed Devices that cannot be fixed although they have GPL software.
The issue between Linus and FSS is that Linus wants ubiquitous Linux, while FSS wants software that can be modified by end user. There is a difference between the two goals, and I prefer the FSS's goal. There is no point in having Linux everywhere when you cannot fix the problems in it, at least on the devices that I am using.
But isn't it like the xerox printer that cannot be fixed, which started this whole thing in the first place. I think you mis-understand the motive of GPL. GPL is there to allow a user to fix their hardware and software. Whether the user has the knowhow is a different thing, but it should be possible for a programmer to fix their hardware and software without resorting to reverse-engineering or cracking.
Its not like Linux is the only GPL software in the world. It may be the most popular but there are many more. And there will be many more becoming GPLv3. I am hoping Apache and some others will adopt GPLv3.
Readline library is also a great library which will cause many projects to think strongly of whether to use GPLv3.
I agree with you totally it will start slowly. GPL took about 5 years to get into the minds of developers, and then Linux helped to convert that into a snowball. Now the time of the kernel is gone, it is just a part of the infrastructure. Now we need another killer app that will propell GPLv3 to another dimension. What will it be we have to see. I think it could be anything. We will have to wait and see.