I donated money via pay pal on Dec 3rd, the day wikileaks had their account cut off. Pay pal accounts are often put on a 180 day hold. I called paypal to verify my money is no longer held in paypal. They said they can say nothing about the issue. They would not even send that to me in writing. They would not give me a dispute number or any other tracking number for my unanswered question. The only comment they had was to contact the better business bureau.
Anyone know a good laywer willing to call the pay pal legal department and find out where my donation is sitting?
I just wanted to say thanks to Christoph, all the commentators, and the slashdot folks for posting this in the daily stories.
It's great to hear all sides of this. Someone posted that malicious prosecution is legally defined in Minnesota law as: (1) an action is brought without (a) probable cause or (b) reasonable belief that the plaintiff will ultimately prevail on the merits
if (b) was true we would have record of a plaintif's lawyer memo stating: Myclient has no chance in hell of winning due to x,y, z, but I'm taking the losing case to soak my plaintif client for $300 per hour.
if (a) was true we would have record of a plaintif's lawyer who knew his client was lying ( aka no probable cause)
It sounds like (a) is true here. People on slashdot have advised you to seek a re-hearing or appeal to the MN Supreme Court.
Christoph, thanks for the China factory photos. You sound like a great citizen. I'm glad you celebrated your pro-se win and took this one step further. You will face judges who don't want to see you sue lawyers and win. These plaintif lawyers accepted a lying client because they are bullies, they knew you were an easy victim (some dude with a website) . If you had a legal team they never would have taken the case. Keep us updated. We need you to win and make this a precedent case. But stay human, don't let it consume you.
I just want to thank the folks at Slashdot for posting e-waste stories like this.
I've got 45 bookmarks on e-waste
http://delicious.com/joerowe/e-waste
I'm looking for other teachers to develop lesson plans for e-waste education.
For example: National Geographic published a good story, but it contained some major myths. I've contacted NG and they refused to admit it's only a myth that computer screens from Monitex in Texas are turned into in low cost TV sets in Thailand. See the 5th picture in this set.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/01/high-tech-trash/essick-photography
BTW: This story was well documented by the TV show 60 minutes, which you can watch online. See my bookmarks.
If you happen to know a teacher who believes in social justice and open source lessons plans tell them to contact me at an experimental site I'm about to launch, using FOSS fyi. http://www.teachchange.org/
I'd like to know how many slashdot teacher haters have ever volunteered in a diverse public school or taught 36 kids in a trailer? I have. I've taught grades 6-12 in public schools for six years. It was my second career after working 6 years between Compaq and Macromedia.
By the time the haters finish cheerleading each other on this topic there will be 1000 myths. Barf.
Wikipoopia is part correct, part incomplete. See my other post. The person you quoted was wrong on the one point ( gotta show ID for being a pedestrian ) but just don't throw wikipoopia out as a simplified answer. Our laws and cops are far more complex than wiki says.
but good of you to read the post and catch that error.
good post. but not complete. I'm no lawyer and this is not legal advice. The law is different in all 50 states, each one has different cases that may have made it to the state court of appeals.
In Oregon they just tried to pass a stop and ID law. These laws should really be called stop and say your name laws or get a ticket laws.
In Oregon a cop can manipulate you within the law. They can ask you your name, and you don't have to say your name. THey can't write you up with a citation for that alone, but they can hold you for a short time and make your life miserable.
And as most people here have said. THe #1 thing to say is
"am I free to go"
It works on so many levels.
Here is the oregon proposed law, it failed.
Half way down the page, aka Democrat Jeff Barker woof woof
Tens of thousands of old and working computers head to the e-waste dumps in China and Africa every time Firefox dumps an old platform of Linux, Mac or Windows. I have a perspective of trying to keep very old hardware working in low income schools in the US, Guatemala, and Costa Rica.
The time to pull the plug really depends less on the OS and more on the browser ( and dependent plug-ins). The browser is the tail that wags the DOG and can render the hardware obsolete as web designers take useless leaps into bloatware.
People will tolerate their crusty old laptop that can only hold 25 minutes of charge, but as soon as too many websites become hard to browse, it's time to buy a brand new laptop.
The low income schools I've helped mostly use Ubuntu 6, 7 or 8 and some XP SP2 and even some W2k. Heck it runs, and stays mostly virus free if they don't use IE version anything.
For starters, Does anyone on slashdot know of any well written and tested steps to get Firefox 3 working on Ubuntu 6.06 ??
We need some type of "e-waste prevention and recomendation" checklist on an offical firefox website. That would be great. Something like Pentium 3, 256MB RAM, best choice is Ubuntu 7.10 FireFox 3.05, Flash Player 9, blah blah blah. Here's a link to download them:
thanks for the helpful posts thus far, good luck on the taxes, or evading them.
For Oregon the office to report Judge misconduct is
http://www.ojd.state.or.us/aboutus/cjfd/index.htm
I bet there is one for Illinois.
File a report even if you think it will not help.
Can someone forward this to the folks who wound up in court and to the legal staff at EFF.
I had a judge ignore the rule of law in lower court and I later won on Appeal with only a written brief, no oral argument needed.
In addition to his disregard for the rule of law, he was on transcript for cutting me off and declaring me guilty before I could finish any statement. I quote him "let me clue you in" and telling me if the cops tell me to do something ( turns out it was illegal ) I had "better do it or wind up back in court".
Judges, Lawyers and cops are all in a close circle and they all look out for each other. I'd post more links if I thought it was safe here.
Slashdot Mirror
I donated money via pay pal on Dec 3rd, the day wikileaks had their account cut off. Pay pal accounts are often put on a 180 day hold. I called paypal to verify my money is no longer held in paypal. They said they can say nothing about the issue. They would not even send that to me in writing. They would not give me a dispute number or any other tracking number for my unanswered question. The only comment they had was to contact the better business bureau. Anyone know a good laywer willing to call the pay pal legal department and find out where my donation is sitting?
It's great to hear all sides of this. Someone posted that malicious prosecution is legally defined in Minnesota law as: (1) an action is brought without (a) probable cause or (b) reasonable belief that the plaintiff will ultimately prevail on the merits
if (b) was true we would have record of a plaintif's lawyer memo stating: Myclient has no chance in hell of winning due to x,y, z, but I'm taking the losing case to soak my plaintif client for $300 per hour.
if (a) was true we would have record of a plaintif's lawyer who knew his client was lying ( aka no probable cause)
It sounds like (a) is true here. People on slashdot have advised you to seek a re-hearing or appeal to the MN Supreme Court.
Christoph, thanks for the China factory photos. You sound like a great citizen. I'm glad you celebrated your pro-se win and took this one step further. You will face judges who don't want to see you sue lawyers and win. These plaintif lawyers accepted a lying client because they are bullies, they knew you were an easy victim (some dude with a website) . If you had a legal team they never would have taken the case. Keep us updated. We need you to win and make this a precedent case. But stay human, don't let it consume you.
I just want to thank the folks at Slashdot for posting e-waste stories like this. I've got 45 bookmarks on e-waste http://delicious.com/joerowe/e-waste I'm looking for other teachers to develop lesson plans for e-waste education. For example: National Geographic published a good story, but it contained some major myths. I've contacted NG and they refused to admit it's only a myth that computer screens from Monitex in Texas are turned into in low cost TV sets in Thailand. See the 5th picture in this set. http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/01/high-tech-trash/essick-photography BTW: This story was well documented by the TV show 60 minutes, which you can watch online. See my bookmarks.
If you happen to know a teacher who believes in social justice and open source lessons plans tell them to contact me at an experimental site I'm about to launch, using FOSS fyi.
http://www.teachchange.org/
Below are 23 mostly free lesson publishing sites for k-12 and University levels. You can contribute to the bookmarks using tags like lessonpublishing if you would like to help.
http://groups.diigo.com/group/teachchange/content/tag/lessonpublishing
I'd like to know how many slashdot teacher haters have ever volunteered in a diverse public school or taught 36 kids in a trailer? I have. I've taught grades 6-12 in public schools for six years. It was my second career after working 6 years between Compaq and Macromedia.
By the time the haters finish cheerleading each other on this topic there will be 1000 myths. Barf.
Hey Wonko
Wikipoopia is part correct, part incomplete. See my other post. The person you quoted was wrong on the one point ( gotta show ID for being a pedestrian ) but just don't throw wikipoopia out as a simplified answer. Our laws and cops are far more complex than wiki says. but good of you to read the post and catch that error.
hey Sadler121
good post. but not complete. I'm no lawyer and this is not legal advice. The law is different in all 50 states, each one has different cases that may have made it to the state court of appeals.
In Oregon they just tried to pass a stop and ID law. These laws should really be called stop and say your name laws or get a ticket laws.
In Oregon a cop can manipulate you within the law. They can ask you your name, and you don't have to say your name. THey can't write you up with a citation for that alone, but they can hold you for a short time and make your life miserable.
And as most people here have said. THe #1 thing to say is
"am I free to go"
It works on so many levels.
Here is the oregon proposed law, it failed. Half way down the page, aka Democrat Jeff Barker woof woof
http://www.portlandmercury.com/news/in_other_news_/Content?oid=33205
Tens of thousands of old and working computers head to the e-waste dumps in China and Africa every time Firefox dumps an old platform of Linux, Mac or Windows. I have a perspective of trying to keep very old hardware working in low income schools in the US, Guatemala, and Costa Rica.
The time to pull the plug really depends less on the OS and more on the browser ( and dependent plug-ins). The browser is the tail that wags the DOG and can render the hardware obsolete as web designers take useless leaps into bloatware.
People will tolerate their crusty old laptop that can only hold 25 minutes of charge, but as soon as too many websites become hard to browse, it's time to buy a brand new laptop.
The low income schools I've helped mostly use Ubuntu 6, 7 or 8 and some XP SP2 and even some W2k. Heck it runs, and stays mostly virus free if they don't use IE version anything.
For starters, Does anyone on slashdot know of any well written and tested steps to get Firefox 3 working on Ubuntu 6.06 ??
We need some type of "e-waste prevention and recomendation" checklist on an offical firefox website. That would be great. Something like Pentium 3, 256MB RAM, best choice is Ubuntu 7.10 FireFox 3.05, Flash Player 9, blah blah blah. Here's a link to download them:
thanks for the helpful posts thus far, good luck on the taxes, or evading them.
For Oregon the office to report Judge misconduct is http://www.ojd.state.or.us/aboutus/cjfd/index.htm I bet there is one for Illinois. File a report even if you think it will not help. Can someone forward this to the folks who wound up in court and to the legal staff at EFF. I had a judge ignore the rule of law in lower court and I later won on Appeal with only a written brief, no oral argument needed. In addition to his disregard for the rule of law, he was on transcript for cutting me off and declaring me guilty before I could finish any statement. I quote him "let me clue you in" and telling me if the cops tell me to do something ( turns out it was illegal ) I had "better do it or wind up back in court". Judges, Lawyers and cops are all in a close circle and they all look out for each other. I'd post more links if I thought it was safe here.