Billions? Nope. 1 Million, perhaps 2. For the performance/reliability of several hundred PC based servers. Or at least a few dozen Sparc Enterprise 6500's..
Mainframes themselves are hardware redundant. Quadruple redundant power supplies, along with redundent memory and disks. Did I mention redundent processors that can take over what another was working on when it went bad? There is a reason why they are so darned expensive. There is also a reason why all of the larger banks and financial instituations use them, or Stratus machines..
You don't. You have 64 in a room, with 40,936 in line behind the doors.. Make 'em run *REAL* fast in and out (A practical use for pengiun mints?). If they do it fast enough, it *looks* like there are 41,000 in there..;-P
Finally, someone catches on to the good that big iron can do. Mainframes *DO* have a practical use in the modern computing environment. Ever time I hear someone mention the 'Old, vunerable mainframes', I cringe.
They have been doing what VMWare is doing, aka, running virtual machines, for nearly three decades. They know what they're doing.
I'd be interested to know what large ISP is looking to use them in this way. To my knowledge, this would be the first published use of the mainframes specifically to serve as a server-multiplexor (Is that a word?) in an ISP environment. This could be the 'next big thing' for these machines. Either that, or be yet another flash in the pan with alot of 'cool' factor..
It'd be a bit more complex then that. One could implement it as you suggest, but you'd find that the process of performing the load balancing would eventually saturate a machine, and not take full advantage of your farm. You would also end up with problems keeping your data in sync due to the lack of row locking in MySQL.
Many of the distros wanting to ease migration offer this, such as WinLinux. Others take the tract of using UMSDOS. Personally, I like to loopback idea better..;-P
They had a right to use the network. You are correct in that statement. But they had a fair and equal right along with everyone else there. Since you simply can't have thousands of rooms stringing their own ethernet cables around for access, you can't simply use the argument that they had the right. They had a right to the resources provided. An ethernet jack wasn't provided. Period.
This is like getting pulled over and telling the cop that you pay their salaries.
You pay for access to everything that the college offers. They didn't offer a jack into that dorm room. Period.
I suppose that, by your logic, *anyone* could have done this. Now image several hundred dorm rooms stringing cable down to the computer lab. What's next, a lawsuit becouse they didn;t have enough open ports?
But you *MUST* understand here. You paid for the service, correct. THAT is legal. However, now they are enforcing that purchase of the equipment dictates that you can use their, *AND ONLY THEIR* service with the device.
In the case of your cell phone, you *own* it. After that year, you can go wherever the hell you please. If you want to take your phone, and hack a linux interface to it, you're on your own. They're certainly not going to cancel your phone service becouse you did something funky to your phone.
Selling one product and locking that device into another service that you sell without any possibility of using it for something else is not legal. You CANNOT take one of these and goto another ISP. And now, according to your service agreement, if you make *any* changes to the hardware that *YOU OWN*, you violate the terms of the purchase you agreed to at purchase.
If I buy something, with a service agreement for a period of time, it is *NOT LEGAL* to require I then use the equipment as they dictate. I am not leasing, or getting at a discount. I *BOUGHT* the equipment, and paid for it strait out.
How does this affect shareholders? What is the difference if I buy it, use their service for 3 months and cancel, or I buy it, pay for three months of service, and do something else with it? Notice that in both situations, the same amount of money has been changed.
Isn't bundling one product with the requirment of a use of another against the law? According to what they are requiring, it's not a refund, discount, etc, for using their service. One requires the other, and if you buy it, you *MUST* use their service, according to their supposed 'Terms of Service', which seems very vacant from their site for some reason..
I understand what and why they are doing this, but they are making it seem like something it's not, which is not legal. They are selling a cheap internet device, at a loss, without telling you you *MUST ALWAYS* use their internet service with it..
It's like buying a Toyoto, and being told you must now buy Toyoto brand gas, imported direct from Japan, for 20$ a gallon.
This is *DEFINATLY* different from how AD&D was dealt with in the past.
For those of you not familar with the earlier days of the internet, the past owners of AD&D went *NUTS* during the early days of the internet. Many gamers had developed optional reference guides, GM managment programs, etc, releasing them as public domain software. They all ended up with very LONG letters from lawyers demaning that they stop creating these programs, and delete all copies of source, etc, that they had. It was quite funny when some of the 'warez' where simple dice rollers and optional hit tables..;-P
They aren't exactly 'stock' drives. It's not like I can pull it out and replace it with any old drives. They would have to be of the exact sector, etc, count, to work right. It's not like a RAID array where the drives can be mounted on nice pull out cartridges and simply replaced..
I've been really debating getting one of these beasts, and the *only* thing that concerns me, and has really put me of is their method of storage..
A Hard drive..
Hard drives are reliable in the long term. They wear out. Plain and simple. What happens when a head crashes, or some other nasty thing with these beasts? Perhaps 3 years down the road, when my model wouldn't be produced anymore?
Buisness is about making money, and many of these 'Net' companies need to start to get it. You cannot simply say that you'll be profitable in 'a few years'. 1 out of 10 venture capital companies actually makes money. I forsee the same happening with the.com's of the world.
Amazon, one of the biggest online retailers, hasn't even made one lousy dime yet. It'll be *great* if they do eventually, but at what cost? If I sink $100 in something every year, and after ten years, I make 1$ profit on it, where have I made any money? Ok, the year after that, it makes $100. After that, $200. then $400, then $500. Ok, that's great, but it took 15 Years to do. Granted, I'm blowing it a tad out of proportion, but in order for these.com's to be successfull, they need to make money. Alot of money. In many cases, they just don't have any time left to do it..
IMHO, too little, to late. I truely feel that this 'new push' on Amiga will provide quality products and services, but, simply to late.
Amiga has already been dragged through the mud, and to anyone but the hardcore amiga users, it will still remain dirty. I'd honestly consider a name change. 'Amiga' to most people bring up memories a failed product.
Best of luck, truely, but I just don't forsee it taking off.
This is what, the fourth time now? At this point, we can start telling the story about the little boy who cried "Amiga Comeback".
What makes them think that this time they will succeed? I'm not faulting the OS itself, but it already failed. Several times. One would think that they would catch the hint.
It should be noted, some people may get the Linux World Expo and the Linux Expo mixed up.. The Linux World Expo in CA and NY, twice a year, is still on, and they are not the same thing..
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Billions? Nope. 1 Million, perhaps 2. For the performance/reliability of several hundred PC based servers. Or at least a few dozen Sparc Enterprise 6500's..
Mainframes themselves are hardware redundant. Quadruple redundant power supplies, along with redundent memory and disks. Did I mention redundent processors that can take over what another was working on when it went bad? There is a reason why they are so darned expensive. There is also a reason why all of the larger banks and financial instituations use them, or Stratus machines..
Perhaps the money would be an issue, but the 4 TB of disk space? No problem there.. ;-P Easy..
Yep, but that post hardly went to the extent of 41,000 copies.. ;-P
You don't. You have 64 in a room, with 40,936 in line behind the doors.. Make 'em run *REAL* fast in and out (A practical use for pengiun mints?). If they do it fast enough, it *looks* like there are 41,000 in there.. ;-P
Same type of thing. Just never been done on a scale of 41,000 copies.. ;-P
Finally, someone catches on to the good that big iron can do. Mainframes *DO* have a practical use in the modern computing environment. Ever time I hear someone mention the 'Old, vunerable mainframes', I cringe.
They have been doing what VMWare is doing, aka, running virtual machines, for nearly three decades. They know what they're doing.
I'd be interested to know what large ISP is looking to use them in this way. To my knowledge, this would be the first published use of the mainframes specifically to serve as a server-multiplexor (Is that a word?) in an ISP environment. This could be the 'next big thing' for these machines. Either that, or be yet another flash in the pan with alot of 'cool' factor..
(Fingers crossed)
It'd be a bit more complex then that. One could implement it as you suggest, but you'd find that the process of performing the load balancing would eventually saturate a machine, and not take full advantage of your farm. You would also end up with problems keeping your data in sync due to the lack of row locking in MySQL.
Many of the distros wanting to ease migration offer this, such as WinLinux. Others take the tract of using UMSDOS. Personally, I like to loopback idea better.. ;-P
I'm using Debian on my laptop and love it. My only beef? For CRYING out loud, release potato!! ;-P
They had a right to use the network. You are correct in that statement. But they had a fair and equal right along with everyone else there. Since you simply can't have thousands of rooms stringing their own ethernet cables around for access, you can't simply use the argument that they had the right. They had a right to the resources provided. An ethernet jack wasn't provided. Period.
This is like getting pulled over and telling the cop that you pay their salaries.
You pay for access to everything that the college offers. They didn't offer a jack into that dorm room. Period.
I suppose that, by your logic, *anyone* could have done this. Now image several hundred dorm rooms stringing cable down to the computer lab. What's next, a lawsuit becouse they didn;t have enough open ports?
But you *MUST* understand here. You paid for the service, correct. THAT is legal. However, now they are enforcing that purchase of the equipment dictates that you can use their, *AND ONLY THEIR* service with the device.
In the case of your cell phone, you *own* it. After that year, you can go wherever the hell you please. If you want to take your phone, and hack a linux interface to it, you're on your own. They're certainly not going to cancel your phone service becouse you did something funky to your phone.
Selling one product and locking that device into another service that you sell without any possibility of using it for something else is not legal. You CANNOT take one of these and goto another ISP. And now, according to your service agreement, if you make *any* changes to the hardware that *YOU OWN*, you violate the terms of the purchase you agreed to at purchase.
If I buy something, with a service agreement for a period of time, it is *NOT LEGAL* to require I then use the equipment as they dictate. I am not leasing, or getting at a discount. I *BOUGHT* the equipment, and paid for it strait out.
How does this affect shareholders? What is the difference if I buy it, use their service for 3 months and cancel, or I buy it, pay for three months of service, and do something else with it? Notice that in both situations, the same amount of money has been changed.
Ok, I may be *way* off base here, but..
Isn't bundling one product with the requirment of a use of another against the law? According to what they are requiring, it's not a refund, discount, etc, for using their service. One requires the other, and if you buy it, you *MUST* use their service, according to their supposed 'Terms of Service', which seems very vacant from their site for some reason..
I understand what and why they are doing this, but they are making it seem like something it's not, which is not legal. They are selling a cheap internet device, at a loss, without telling you you *MUST ALWAYS* use their internet service with it..
It's like buying a Toyoto, and being told you must now buy Toyoto brand gas, imported direct from Japan, for 20$ a gallon.
Err, nope, sorry, wrong answer.. The kernel modifications are simply to be able to provide priority direct access to the raw device. Pretty much it..
This is *DEFINATLY* different from how AD&D was dealt with in the past.
;-P
For those of you not familar with the earlier days of the internet, the past owners of AD&D went *NUTS* during the early days of the internet. Many gamers had developed optional reference guides, GM managment programs, etc, releasing them as public domain software. They all ended up with very LONG letters from lawyers demaning that they stop creating these programs, and delete all copies of source, etc, that they had. It was quite funny when some of the 'warez' where simple dice rollers and optional hit tables..
They aren't exactly 'stock' drives. It's not like I can pull it out and replace it with any old drives. They would have to be of the exact sector, etc, count, to work right. It's not like a RAID array where the drives can be mounted on nice pull out cartridges and simply replaced..
One of my exact concerns.. And it's not like there's a 'slide out' cartrige for them.. You have to quite literally get into the guts..
I've been really debating getting one of these beasts, and the *only* thing that concerns me, and has really put me of is their method of storage..
A Hard drive..
Hard drives are reliable in the long term. They wear out. Plain and simple. What happens when a head crashes, or some other nasty thing with these beasts? Perhaps 3 years down the road, when my model wouldn't be produced anymore?
Unfortionatly, that's the OS, but *NOT* the applications that provide the interface, etc.. ;-P
Buisness is about making money, and many of these 'Net' companies need to start to get it. You cannot simply say that you'll be profitable in 'a few years'. 1 out of 10 venture capital companies actually makes money. I forsee the same happening with the .com's of the world.
.com's to be successfull, they need to make money. Alot of money. In many cases, they just don't have any time left to do it..
Amazon, one of the biggest online retailers, hasn't even made one lousy dime yet. It'll be *great* if they do eventually, but at what cost? If I sink $100 in something every year, and after ten years, I make 1$ profit on it, where have I made any money? Ok, the year after that, it makes $100. After that, $200. then $400, then $500. Ok, that's great, but it took 15 Years to do. Granted, I'm blowing it a tad out of proportion, but in order for these
IMHO, too little, to late. I truely feel that this 'new push' on Amiga will provide quality products and services, but, simply to late.
Amiga has already been dragged through the mud, and to anyone but the hardcore amiga users, it will still remain dirty. I'd honestly consider a name change. 'Amiga' to most people bring up memories a failed product.
Best of luck, truely, but I just don't forsee it taking off.
This is what, the fourth time now? At this point, we can start telling the story about the little boy who cried "Amiga Comeback".
What makes them think that this time they will succeed? I'm not faulting the OS itself, but it already failed. Several times. One would think that they would catch the hint.
It should be noted, some people may get the Linux World Expo and the Linux Expo mixed up.. The Linux World Expo in CA and NY, twice a year, is still on, and they are not the same thing..