>3D Now extensions in M$ products like office and maybe some special support in NT and 98 for it also.
MS has support for 3DNow, right in DirectX 6. This support shipped with the K6-2/3. In fact 3DNow has better support than Intel's offering (SSE is it?) because they came to market faster. At least it has better mind share, and a catchier name.
They could advertise more, in what products support their processors and instruction sets. Traditionally they haven't had the cash to do so.
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I'm sure that AMD would like to capture this market as well. The bottom line is that they might not be physically able to right now. AMD has never had a problem with demand for their processors it has always been yield. The supply has never reached the demand, it has always been limited by the amount they can manufacture (Or in the Athalon's case the number of M/B vendors and the amount of Motherboards they produce). Around 50% of the processors they make are junk, they don't work off of the assembly line. That makes for huge losses financially.
AMD has been kicking Intel in the teeth for several years now, they really do own the x86 marketplace. Intel is no longer a monopoly. AMD makes near half of x86 CPUs (At least for consumer systems). If their Dresden 0.18 micron plant comes online on-time and at full capacity they should be all right, they might even replace Intel as the big CPU manufacturer. If it doesn't, well then it could be curtains for AMD.
Dude, put the coffee down . . I said PUT the COFFEE DOWN!
>real Microsoft-like behaviour on RedHat's part.
It's mainly a bugfix release, compile all the new updated RPMS from the 6.0 release and any new software that you would want to upgrade (KDE, GNOME, XFree86). You don't HAVE to buy this, from anyone, you don't even have to download it if you don't want. Personally if I have a stable system I am not going to mess it up just for the latest and greatest.
Would you rather have it where they _don't_ release, and every time you install a new system you have to spend all day applying fixes and upgrading packages. I didn't think so. Just put the new boxes out there for the marks to pay for and only upgrade if necessary, you can even steal specific RPMS from the new distro and apply them to the old if you want.
Anyway if they were really Microsoft they wouldn't release at all, just sit on the bugfixes and new features instead of replacing the current version with a newer one.
>*ALL* of Linux is a fucking media circus
Oohh, if it's popular it can't be good. Take me to some dark, dank corner where no one is and I'll be happy. That way I can be "Elite" with all my friends. Blech.
A couple of canned install options (Server, Workstation, Home Computer, etc) and a Custom option is all that is needed. They already have most of this (Custom Install) but a few canned options wouldn't hurt.
And you can always remove RPMs after install. I did this to get a Caldera 1.3 distro to fit comfortably on a 100MB HDD, including a 50MB Netware 4 server! You would be suprised to know how much stuff you really don't need to just boot and serve a few files, makes me wonder why I don't see more stripped down distros sold with network appliances. Then again, maybe I'm just not looking.
Really this is a non-issue. You can ship all the packages you want on 1 or more CDs. Just choose what type of system you want at install time. If you want a Server install then you get your choice of DB, if you want a Workstation then you get your choice of Tetris clones. The other packages will still be on the CD if you want them. Kinda like Suse with its umpteen CDs.
I agree, I wish that/. would not post these stories until the announcement is made by RH, Mandrake, whomever. All this does is overload their FTP server and prevent them from shipping to their mirror sites on time. I noticed a few brave souls have mirrored the ISO images on their personal machines, please use these.
Also there may be a reason that they haven't announced it yet, like maybe that FTP directory wasn't meant for you to use yet. Nobody better be cryin' if some package doesn't work right in your version.
But PLEASE Slashdot, don't post these pieces, coordinate with RH, etc. before you send 1e6 people to an unsuspecting FTP server.
Maybe you have done this, and I just don't know about it. Then just ignore me. I'll shut up now.
(Not a RH employee, I don't even use RH right now)
This is not exactally on-topic but libstdc++.so sucks. I have to have 3 incompatable versions on my system to have anything linked against them work correctly. And even then I have to make symlinks for programs linked to other versions than I have.
In/usr/lib I have libstdc++.so.2.8 and libstdc++.so.2.9, in/usr/lib/gnulibc1 I have libstdc++.so.27.2.8 (probably s/b 2.7.2.8) with a symlink called libstdc++.so.2.7.2 (for RealAudio 5, which doesn't even work with most content nowadays).
Half of my programs are linked to 2.8 and the other half to 2.9 and they are completely incompatable. What nonsense!
Yes. And it sucks to have to convert from base 10 to whatever at the supermarket. Many of the Imperial measurements are fractional and roll over at odd numbers (Oz to Gal, etc). Moving everything to base 10 would make life easier (at least they print mL on cans already, 355mL soda sitting in front of me)
I learned Metric when I went to school and it wasn't that hard. The training material and teachers are already out there. Then again I was never comfortable with the Imperial measurements anyway. They never made any sense, why should we use completely different measurements for the same thing (inch, foot, yard, mile).
Just remember a Centimeter is about the width of a pinkey finger, a decimeter is about the width of a hand, a meter is about a yard or the height of a doorknob. Simple.
Oh and a Gram is the weight of a cubic Centimeter of water, a kilo is the the weight of a cubic Decimeter (I know it is mass, not weight but for guestimation . ..)
> The government will start with your house, dude. Stand back, because the crew will be by tomorrow to rip out all the screws and nails. You say your walls have 2x8 studs in them? The crew with crowbars will be by later this afternoon.
Whhhaaaaat!! Why would we have to destroy any houses?!? Because 2x4 studs would be called 5x10s? (and a 2x4 isn't 2in x 4in, and hasn't been for a long time) That's insane!
There would be some cost but not as much as you seem to think. Cars already are marked with KPH/MPH, food products are marked in ML and L (2L Bottles anyone?). When tool and die machines are replaced they can be metricified (I made up that word). During this time the Metric measurement can be displayed more prominantly than the Imperial, my 15 OZ. can of Peas can be a 425G can. No big deal.
We should just do it, make Metric the standard. In 10 years everyone will have caught up and there will be no problem. It will have to happen someday, but the longer we wait the more expensive and painfull it will be.
I don't know RedHat's FTP directory structure but if it is anything like Caldera's all updates are in a single directory. Having a cron script update them isn't hard. Personally I use KPackage for managing RPM updates. It supportes URLs in its search path for new/updated RPMS, by default it is preconfigured to point it to the Caldera FTP server. It tells me if there are any updates, I just click and install. Simple.
I use KFM for most of my browsing as well. Except for right now, I'm on someone elses computer using Opera. KFM is pretty cool, I have a friend who made a torture test page that loads frames recursively. It will load a framset that splits the window into 2 sections, the page that it loads is itself. A refresh tag every couple of seconds and it quickly turns into hundreds and thousands of frames. KFM is the only browser that we have seen to handle this correctly, Netscape crashes, IE crashes, KFM keeps working until the computer completely runs out of memory (real and swap) and the process dies. This can take over a half hour, Netscape doesn't last 10min. Only time I saw a load of 16+ on a linux box.
Not exactly. To go back to shed example it would be as if the shed were impenetrable. The police have no way in without your cooperation. Without access to the shed they have no proof and would have to let you go. This law would extend the warrant to allow the police to throw you in jail if they DON'T find anything.
An example of possible abuse would be if you just happened to have a shed with a good lock. The police note this and come around demanding to see inside. You procede to tell them to fsck off. They throw you in jail for 2 years, no questions asked. If you try to complain, make that 5 more years.
Not the greatest system. Unfortunately executing search warrants on encrypted files is a very real problem, there has to be an answer but this isn't it.
I have the same thing. On my system I have attributed it to the mouse, HDD and CDROM motors and the Mic/Line inputs (even if a Mic is not installed). My PCI soundcard is generally better but it is closer to the CPU/Power supply/HDD/etc.
They discontinued Wabi pretty abruptly though. What about the customers who bought into it? Wabi 3 was supposed to emulate Win32, like WINE. If they really wanted to help they could release all the source for Wabi 2.2 and 3beta to WINE.
He just noted that they have shown a habit of discontinuing products whenver it suits them, without warning.
I agree. Another area that I think is important is the expansion of the Universe. If it were possible for "someone" from outside our own Universe to control the nature of little bits of reality popping into existance it would allow them complete, omnipitotent control. This assumes that they can predict with high accuracy the effects in chaos.
For example you are trying to decide a particular model of car to purchase. This mysterious someone used their skill to slow down a cosmic ray, 10 years ago. That cosmic ray passes through your brain, lights up a neuron (ok, simplistic here) and changes your decision.
While convoluted, to a lay person such as myself, it appears possible. Between this and the Uncertainty Principle (Which I believe proves that any Supreme Being must live in annother Universe, because I don't believe in Supernatural powers)
Loading paper-tape keys SUCKS! Had to spend a whole day doing this when we got our new weather satellite system. The funny thing was, you could get the same quality images unencrypted from NOAA. But having a tracking dish outside downloading enrcypted images from military satellites did win us many cool points though. (At least the way I described it!)
That makes more sense. I just got out of the AF and went to basic training with a budding cryptolinguist. This guy new Russian, Mandarin Chinese and some other language. He spent the last couple of years touring Russia and China, in fact.
It was hell for him to fill out his security clearance questionaire. He was supposed to list all his prior addresses, he ended up having a whole stack of pages. I would hate to be the OSI investigator that had to followup and all that.
The cool thing was that they wanted to train him in annother SE Asia language. He had orders to Georgetown University, all expenses paid by Uncle Sam. Better than tech school, where it is just like mommy & daddy watching over you, with curfews, dress codes, and scant "privileges".
He was supposed to be finally assigned to Hawaii, where he would fly out and intercept radio/telephone transmissions and translate them.
My new Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 installs a SMP kernel by default. It makes sense, it will work fine with one CPU, if you have more than one CPU you don't have to recompile.
Two words -- "Corel NetWinder". Not exactally less than $1000, but close. If I remember it is a StrongARM 175MHz, 64MB RAM, and 4GB HDD in a little modem sized box. Incl. Ethernet, sound, SVGA video, and maybe modem. Saw these earlier this year running a Caldera Linux distro with KDE. Pretty snazzy.
"Lets face it, our schools don't get enough money. Until we do something about this, the schools are going to whore themselves out to corporate interests."
I don't know where you are from but around here the average cost, per student, is around $9000. That is actually MORE than the local private school spends per student. The private school gives a MUCH better education though.
Why is this? The teachers aren't getting rich. But we did just have a real nice homecomming parade. And new equipment for the football team. And a lot of other friviolous crap that doesn't add any academic value. In the previous school district I was in they would even delay school the morning after games that went late! We have a lot of skool spirit!
Our school routinely graduates students who can't even read and write. My father was a local police officer and would show me some of the statements that these young adults would write. Atrocious. Heck, I even slept through several classes (incl. Adv. Math) and managed to graduate with a B average.
I don't plan on having children until later in life when I could retire, and homeschool them.
--OFFTOPIC-- Truthfully though every street is not a speed risk. It is usually only a few intersections or locations (where the posted speed changes abruptly, for example) where speed and accidents are a problem. Parking a car in plain sight _would_ help curb speeding if that was their intention. For example this tactic was used when I was in Germany. The police would place automated cameras at places where speed was a problem. They sent you your picture with your ticket in the mail. Very few people could argue with the camera and they were a great deterrent.
On the other hand my father is a police officer. Their police chief is not the most ethical or brightest one around. He demanded that they have more "Officer Initiated Cases" and that failure to do so could result in dismissal, or at least a poor performance rating. He didn't say "tickets" outright but that is what an Officer Initiated Case is. Oh and the money from tickets goes directly into the Sherrif Department's budget, they even had a surplus this last year!
Not a good situation, most of the deputies hope that he gets voted out this next election. Unfortunately the people smart enough to do the job are also the ones who are smart enough to not want it. --/OFFTOPIC--
I have to apologize, I hate to be a troll. What I was trying to say, crudely, is that defending your argument by saying that the previous poster isn't perfect, therefore shouldn't voice their opinion is no defence of an argument. I find this idea endemic in US society, that if you aren't morally perfect then your opinion doesn't matter. Unless this is the second coming, nobody is perfect, therefore everyone elses opinion can be discounted using this logic.
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>3D Now extensions in M$ products like office and maybe some special support in NT and 98 for it also.
MS has support for 3DNow, right in DirectX 6. This support shipped with the K6-2/3. In fact 3DNow has better support than Intel's offering (SSE is it?) because they came to market faster. At least it has better mind share, and a catchier name.
They could advertise more, in what products support their processors and instruction sets. Traditionally they haven't had the cash to do so.
I'm sure that AMD would like to capture this market as well. The bottom line is that they might not be physically able to right now. AMD has never had a problem with demand for their processors it has always been yield. The supply has never reached the demand, it has always been limited by the amount they can manufacture (Or in the Athalon's case the number of M/B vendors and the amount of Motherboards they produce). Around 50% of the processors they make are junk, they don't work off of the assembly line. That makes for huge losses financially.
AMD has been kicking Intel in the teeth for several years now, they really do own the x86 marketplace. Intel is no longer a monopoly. AMD makes near half of x86 CPUs (At least for consumer systems). If their Dresden 0.18 micron plant comes online on-time and at full capacity they should be all right, they might even replace Intel as the big CPU manufacturer. If it doesn't, well then it could be curtains for AMD.
Dude, put the coffee down . . I said PUT the COFFEE DOWN!
>real Microsoft-like behaviour on RedHat's part.
It's mainly a bugfix release, compile all the new updated RPMS from the 6.0 release and any new software that you would want to upgrade (KDE, GNOME, XFree86). You don't HAVE to buy this, from anyone, you don't even have to download it if you don't want. Personally if I have a stable system I am not going to mess it up just for the latest and greatest.
Would you rather have it where they _don't_ release, and every time you install a new system you have to spend all day applying fixes and upgrading packages. I didn't think so. Just put the new boxes out there for the marks to pay for and only upgrade if necessary, you can even steal specific RPMS from the new distro and apply them to the old if you want.
Anyway if they were really Microsoft they wouldn't release at all, just sit on the bugfixes and new features instead of replacing the current version with a newer one.
>*ALL* of Linux is a fucking media circus
Oohh, if it's popular it can't be good. Take me to some dark, dank corner where no one is and I'll be happy. That way I can be "Elite" with all my friends. Blech.
A couple of canned install options (Server, Workstation, Home Computer, etc) and a Custom option is all that is needed. They already have most of this (Custom Install) but a few canned options wouldn't hurt.
And you can always remove RPMs after install. I did this to get a Caldera 1.3 distro to fit comfortably on a 100MB HDD, including a 50MB Netware 4 server! You would be suprised to know how much stuff you really don't need to just boot and serve a few files, makes me wonder why I don't see more stripped down distros sold with network appliances. Then again, maybe I'm just not looking.
Really this is a non-issue. You can ship all the packages you want on 1 or more CDs. Just choose what type of system you want at install time. If you want a Server install then you get your choice of DB, if you want a Workstation then you get your choice of Tetris clones. The other packages will still be on the CD if you want them. Kinda like Suse with its umpteen CDs.
I agree, I wish that /. would not post these stories until the announcement is made by RH, Mandrake, whomever. All this does is overload their FTP server and prevent them from shipping to their mirror sites on time. I noticed a few brave souls have mirrored the ISO images on their personal machines, please use these.
Also there may be a reason that they haven't announced it yet, like maybe that FTP directory wasn't meant for you to use yet. Nobody better be cryin' if some package doesn't work right in your version.
But PLEASE Slashdot, don't post these pieces, coordinate with RH, etc. before you send 1e6 people to an unsuspecting FTP server.
Maybe you have done this, and I just don't know about it. Then just ignore me. I'll shut up now.
(Not a RH employee, I don't even use RH right now)
This is not exactally on-topic but libstdc++.so sucks. I have to have 3 incompatable versions on my system to have anything linked against them work correctly. And even then I have to make symlinks for programs linked to other versions than I have.
/usr/lib I have libstdc++.so.2.8 and libstdc++.so.2.9, in /usr/lib/gnulibc1 I have libstdc++.so.27.2.8 (probably s/b 2.7.2.8) with a symlink called libstdc++.so.2.7.2 (for RealAudio 5, which doesn't even work with most content nowadays).
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Half of my programs are linked to 2.8 and the other half to 2.9 and they are completely incompatable. What nonsense!
Yes. And it sucks to have to convert from base 10 to whatever at the supermarket. Many of the Imperial measurements are fractional and roll over at odd numbers (Oz to Gal, etc). Moving everything to base 10 would make life easier (at least they print mL on cans already, 355mL soda sitting in front of me)
> Why should the US economy go into the tank
I'm sorry, I missed it when the REST of the WORLD collapsed because they changed to Metric. But maybe they don't really exist, it's just U.S.(A.)
I learned Metric when I went to school and it wasn't that hard. The training material and teachers are already out there. Then again I was never comfortable with the Imperial measurements anyway. They never made any sense, why should we use completely different measurements for the same thing (inch, foot, yard, mile).
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Just remember a Centimeter is about the width of a pinkey finger, a decimeter is about the width of a hand, a meter is about a yard or the height of a doorknob. Simple.
Oh and a Gram is the weight of a cubic Centimeter of water, a kilo is the the weight of a cubic Decimeter (I know it is mass, not weight but for guestimation . .
Simple.
> The government will start with your house, dude. Stand back, because the crew will be by tomorrow to rip out all the screws and nails. You say your walls have 2x8 studs in them? The crew with crowbars will be by later this afternoon.
Whhhaaaaat!! Why would we have to destroy any houses?!? Because 2x4 studs would be called 5x10s? (and a 2x4 isn't 2in x 4in, and hasn't been for a long time) That's insane!
There would be some cost but not as much as you seem to think. Cars already are marked with KPH/MPH, food products are marked in ML and L (2L Bottles anyone?). When tool and die machines are replaced they can be metricified (I made up that word). During this time the Metric measurement can be displayed more prominantly than the Imperial, my 15 OZ. can of Peas can be a 425G can. No big deal.
We should just do it, make Metric the standard. In 10 years everyone will have caught up and there will be no problem. It will have to happen someday, but the longer we wait the more expensive and painfull it will be.
I don't know RedHat's FTP directory structure but if it is anything like Caldera's all updates are in a single directory. Having a cron script update them isn't hard. Personally I use KPackage for managing RPM updates. It supportes URLs in its search path for new/updated RPMS, by default it is preconfigured to point it to the Caldera FTP server. It tells me if there are any updates, I just click and install. Simple.
I use KFM for most of my browsing as well. Except for right now, I'm on someone elses computer using Opera. KFM is pretty cool, I have a friend who made a torture test page that loads frames recursively. It will load a framset that splits the window into 2 sections, the page that it loads is itself. A refresh tag every couple of seconds and it quickly turns into hundreds and thousands of frames. KFM is the only browser that we have seen to handle this correctly, Netscape crashes, IE crashes, KFM keeps working until the computer completely runs out of memory (real and swap) and the process dies. This can take over a half hour, Netscape doesn't last 10min. Only time I saw a load of 16+ on a linux box.
Not exactly. To go back to shed example it would be as if the shed were impenetrable. The police have no way in without your cooperation. Without access to the shed they have no proof and would have to let you go. This law would extend the warrant to allow the police to throw you in jail if they DON'T find anything.
An example of possible abuse would be if you just happened to have a shed with a good lock. The police note this and come around demanding to see inside. You procede to tell them to fsck off. They throw you in jail for 2 years, no questions asked. If you try to complain, make that 5 more years.
Not the greatest system. Unfortunately executing search warrants on encrypted files is a very real problem, there has to be an answer but this isn't it.
I have the same thing. On my system I have attributed it to the mouse, HDD and CDROM motors and the Mic/Line inputs (even if a Mic is not installed). My PCI soundcard is generally better but it is closer to the CPU/Power supply/HDD/etc.
They discontinued Wabi pretty abruptly though. What about the customers who bought into it? Wabi 3 was supposed to emulate Win32, like WINE. If they really wanted to help they could release all the source for Wabi 2.2 and 3beta to WINE.
He just noted that they have shown a habit of discontinuing products whenver it suits them, without warning.
I agree. Another area that I think is important is the expansion of the Universe. If it were possible for "someone" from outside our own Universe to control the nature of little bits of reality popping into existance it would allow them complete, omnipitotent control. This assumes that they can predict with high accuracy the effects in chaos.
For example you are trying to decide a particular model of car to purchase. This mysterious someone used their skill to slow down a cosmic ray, 10 years ago. That cosmic ray passes through your brain, lights up a neuron (ok, simplistic here) and changes your decision.
While convoluted, to a lay person such as myself, it appears possible. Between this and the Uncertainty Principle (Which I believe proves that any Supreme Being must live in annother Universe, because I don't believe in Supernatural powers)
Any thoughts, takers?
Loading paper-tape keys SUCKS! Had to spend a whole day doing this when we got our new weather satellite system. The funny thing was, you could get the same quality images unencrypted from NOAA. But having a tracking dish outside downloading enrcypted images from military satellites did win us many cool points though. (At least the way I described it!)
That makes more sense. I just got out of the AF and went to basic training with a budding cryptolinguist. This guy new Russian, Mandarin Chinese and some other language. He spent the last couple of years touring Russia and China, in fact.
It was hell for him to fill out his security clearance questionaire. He was supposed to list all his prior addresses, he ended up having a whole stack of pages. I would hate to be the OSI investigator that had to followup and all that.
The cool thing was that they wanted to train him in annother SE Asia language. He had orders to Georgetown University, all expenses paid by Uncle Sam. Better than tech school, where it is just like mommy & daddy watching over you, with curfews, dress codes, and scant "privileges".
He was supposed to be finally assigned to Hawaii, where he would fly out and intercept radio/telephone transmissions and translate them.
Well, that's my story, and I'm sticken' to it.
My new Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 installs a SMP kernel by default. It makes sense, it will work fine with one CPU, if you have more than one CPU you don't have to recompile.
Two words -- "Corel NetWinder". Not exactally less than $1000, but close. If I remember it is a StrongARM 175MHz, 64MB RAM, and 4GB HDD in a little modem sized box. Incl. Ethernet, sound, SVGA video, and maybe modem. Saw these earlier this year running a Caldera Linux distro with KDE. Pretty snazzy.
"Lets face it, our schools don't get enough money. Until we do something about this, the schools are going to whore themselves out to corporate interests."
I don't know where you are from but around here the average cost, per student, is around $9000. That is actually MORE than the local private school spends per student. The private school gives a MUCH better education though.
Why is this? The teachers aren't getting rich. But we did just have a real nice homecomming parade. And new equipment for the football team. And a lot of other friviolous crap that doesn't add any academic value. In the previous school district I was in they would even delay school the morning after games that went late! We have a lot of skool spirit!
Our school routinely graduates students who can't even read and write. My father was a local police officer and would show me some of the statements that these young adults would write. Atrocious. Heck, I even slept through several classes (incl. Adv. Math) and managed to graduate with a B average.
I don't plan on having children until later in life when I could retire, and homeschool them.
--OFFTOPIC--
Truthfully though every street is not a speed risk. It is usually only a few intersections or locations (where the posted speed changes abruptly, for example) where speed and accidents are a problem. Parking a car in plain sight _would_ help curb speeding if that was their intention. For example this tactic was used when I was in Germany. The police would place automated cameras at places where speed was a problem. They sent you your picture with your ticket in the mail. Very few people could argue with the camera and they were a great deterrent.
On the other hand my father is a police officer. Their police chief is not the most ethical or brightest one around. He demanded that they have more "Officer Initiated Cases" and that failure to do so could result in dismissal, or at least a poor performance rating. He didn't say "tickets" outright but that is what an Officer Initiated Case is. Oh and the money from tickets goes directly into the Sherrif Department's budget, they even had a surplus this last year!
Not a good situation, most of the deputies hope that he gets voted out this next election. Unfortunately the people smart enough to do the job are also the ones who are smart enough to not want it.
--/OFFTOPIC--
I have to apologize, I hate to be a troll. What I was trying to say, crudely, is that defending your argument by saying that the previous poster isn't perfect, therefore shouldn't voice their opinion is no defence of an argument. I find this idea endemic in US society, that if you aren't morally perfect then your opinion doesn't matter. Unless this is the second coming, nobody is perfect, therefore everyone elses opinion can be discounted using this logic.
Of course that was what everyone said when PGP was released, many moons ago. Last I checked it hasn't happened yet!