Sorry Troll, I had to bite (here goes 20 minutes)...
Let's see here: 100mhz at 64 bits, is 768MB/sec of bandwidth 266mhz at 32 bits is 1024MB/sec of bandwidth AGP 4xwins hands down.
Dumbass, read my post, did I say it was faster? I know reading comes difficult to some.
I was referring to the architecture that's designed around the USIII.
I was just KIDDING! You see on the internet there are these things called emoticons.:^) Again read my post...Oh wait, we covered that already.
The nice thing about slashdot, is that most of these dumbshits (like you)recommending SUN's for opengl aren't in the field,
Hahaha, wrong again! I am in the field. I have been for 6 years. When did I ever recommend *anything* in my post. Talk about a misrepresentation on the facts. Did someone not read my post?
and most of the guys dumb enough to believe they are fast at opengl, don't have enough money to buy one.
So you know about my financial situation...interesting.
So, at least people aren't losing any money. The only thing that's annoying, is the spread of misinformation.
You said it, that *is* irratating. Maybe you should look at a post before spewing some.
Oh, please enlighten me about the way you make a living, since you seem to know SOOOO much about computers. I would be willing to bet from your know-it-all attitude that you're an NT admin.
Ok, I am a Unix Engineer. I would love to know how you extrapolated all of this information from my post. The algorythm would be most interesting, except it produces erroneous results 95% of the time.
I am tired of typing and it is starting to storm really hard. The power could go out and I want to spend some time with my beautiful girlfriend before we go to bed. I will write one final paragraph.
Actually read a post before you make someone correct your mistakes. The post that I replied to mentioned the lack of AGP for the Ultra architecture and I just mentioned that there is *something* like the AGP architecture for Ultra(a dedicated bus for graphics). She/He was ignorant on the matter. I wan't endorsing it, saying it was faster, nor was I claiming that it was open. I just gave some specs and the fact that machines are made with more than one.
Good day.
Of course the USIII's don't have AGP they are processors.:^) Seriously though the Sun Ultra line has something like AGP! It's called UPA (Ultra Port Architecture) and runs @ 100-112.5Mhz/64bits. They also produce boards that have more than 1 of them unlike AGP. At least you made me laugh at your ignorance.
Umm, Solaris pkgadd, pkginfo, pkgrm utils suck. Ever wonder what package filex belongs to? How about the amount of Solaris packages? (Don't say www.sunfreeware.com either, those packages are old and there isn't many of them) The *BSD ports method has some cool features, but how about upgrades? How about makefiles that don't work? How is the ports collection any more flexible than say RPM? Or for that matter better implemented? I have used the *BSD ports collection for about a year and find them to be lacking in features/robustness compared to Debian's packaging system. I have had more than a few *BSD ports fail because "all of the ports haven't been converted to the new method/system (I am using 4.0 STABLE)". Having multiple QT libraries is a real pain, etc.
Well I have, and it locked up (yes the num lock & caps lock keys do NOT respond) Win 2K all the time! I don't have any other software installed on this machine! Machine configuration?
866Mhz, Intel 840 chipset, 512MB 800Mhz Rambus, 32MB Matrox G400 MAX, SB Live!, and an Ultra 160 controller with 2 18GB 160 disks. With all of the latest drivers installed. This computer runs Linux just fine.
For those who are wondering why I went this route one simply has to look at the Dell product line. A vendor that I must purchase from.
Another thing missing from FreeBSD, SMP performance. This is coming from a guy with PIII 866x2 and an Abit BP6 with 466x2. When 5.0 STABLE comes out then I will switch.:^) But this whole thread is offtopic!
WHAT!!! Have you not learned from the *many* examples of "embrace and extend" from the past? Arrrgggg, there is even a phrase describing this behavior.
Umm, try running seti@home on an UltraSparc II 450Mhz and an 866Mhz PIII. They do seti packets in roughly the same time, but the UltraSparc II is running at 1/2 the clock. So what? Well three things:
1.) The 64-bit Sparc seti client makes a pretty big difference with applications that deal with large numbers.
2.) The Sparc processor is much more efficient/faster at floating point ops.
1.) That depends on the size of the company and who is negotiating your purchases. Many companies get substantial discounts from Sun.
2.) That depends on what PC company you buy your servers from. e.g. Compaq servers cost just as much as Sun servers.
3.) For 25K you can get some pretty nice 420r rack mount Sun boxes. The processors may only be 450Mhz, but they come with 8 *MB* of Ecache! Can you say a Seti packet in 5 Hrs?:^)h
Umm, it also has the amazing ability to soak up RAM by the *gigabytes*! I administer Solaris boxes that run Oracle 8.x & 8.1.x and I have never witnessed a more bloated and buggy application in my life! Oracle has an amazing propensity to "runaway" when a developer discovers one of the many bugs, processes then use enourmous amounts of CPU and gobble up RAM often exhausting all RAM and swap on the machine. (Yes, my swap partitions total 3x the amount of RAM, 6GB)
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Umm...
1.) SMP 2.) If I want to use a GeForce 256 3.) And now because I can't buy an Athlon:^)
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Damn well said...
I am tired of typing and it is starting to storm really hard. The power could go out and I want to spend some time with my beautiful girlfriend before we go to bed. I will write one final paragraph.
Actually read a post before you make someone correct your mistakes. The post that I replied to mentioned the lack of AGP for the Ultra architecture and I just mentioned that there is *something* like the AGP architecture for Ultra(a dedicated bus for graphics). She/He was ignorant on the matter. I wan't endorsing it, saying it was faster, nor was I claiming that it was open. I just gave some specs and the fact that machines are made with more than one. Good day.
I have a UII 450Mhz/8MB cache and a Pentium III 866Mhz/512k cache and they complete a Seti@Home packet in 4Hrs 58Mins (5Hrs 5 mins for the PIII).
Of course the USIII's don't have AGP they are processors. :^) Seriously though the Sun Ultra line has something like AGP! It's called UPA (Ultra Port Architecture) and runs @ 100-112.5Mhz/64bits. They also produce boards that have more than 1 of them unlike AGP. At least you made me laugh at your ignorance.
How about this one:
:^)
12 Netscape windows
Xmms
gkrellm
GnomeCal
6 Gnome Terminals
Vmware
GnomeICU
Gaim
GTK-Napster
Netscape Mail
Gnome Weather
Gvim
gosh I'm tired of typing
# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 516664 506928 9736 99256 93204 301292
-/+ buffers/cache:
112432 404232
Swap: 272888 3328 269560
Umm, Solaris pkgadd, pkginfo, pkgrm utils suck. Ever wonder what package filex belongs to? How about the amount of Solaris packages? (Don't say www.sunfreeware.com either, those packages are old and there isn't many of them) The *BSD ports method has some cool features, but how about upgrades? How about makefiles that don't work? How is the ports collection any more flexible than say RPM? Or for that matter better implemented? I have used the *BSD ports collection for about a year and find them to be lacking in features/robustness compared to Debian's packaging system. I have had more than a few *BSD ports fail because "all of the ports haven't been converted to the new method/system (I am using 4.0 STABLE)". Having multiple QT libraries is a real pain, etc.
Look at the startkde script. I has sleeps in there that slow down the startup. This script can be tuned to make KDE start much faster.
> I don't recall Diablo II being touted for Windows 2000....
"touted"? Do you mean supported? Hmm, looks like you may need to rethink your ink.
From the Blizzard website (pay particular attention to the first line):
Single-Player PC System Requirements
Requires the Full Version of Diablo II
Windows® 2000*, 95, 98 or NT 4.0 Service Pack 5
Pentium® 233 or equivalent
32 MB RAM
4X CD-ROM drive
DirectX(TM) compatible video card
Well I have, and it locked up (yes the num lock & caps lock keys do NOT respond) Win 2K all the time! I don't have any other software installed on this machine! Machine configuration?
866Mhz, Intel 840 chipset, 512MB 800Mhz Rambus, 32MB Matrox G400 MAX, SB Live!, and an Ultra 160 controller with 2 18GB 160 disks. With all of the latest drivers installed. This computer runs Linux just fine.
For those who are wondering why I went this route one simply has to look at the Dell product line. A vendor that I must purchase from.
Another thing missing from FreeBSD, SMP performance. This is coming from a guy with PIII 866x2 and an Abit BP6 with 466x2. When 5.0 STABLE comes out then I will switch. :^) But this whole thread is offtopic!
Yes, people have left a company due to bad cube design. Maybe not soley due to bad cube design, but it was the last straw!
WHAT!!! Have you not learned from the *many* examples of "embrace and extend" from the past? Arrrgggg, there is even a phrase describing this behavior.
Umm, try running seti@home on an UltraSparc II 450Mhz and an 866Mhz PIII. They do seti packets in roughly the same time, but the UltraSparc II is running at 1/2 the clock. So what? Well three things:
1.) The 64-bit Sparc seti client makes a pretty big difference with applications that deal with large numbers.
2.) The Sparc processor is much more efficient/faster at floating point ops.
3.) 8MB of Ecache is *really* nice!
1.) That depends on the size of the company and who is negotiating your purchases. Many companies get substantial discounts from Sun.
:^)h
2.) That depends on what PC company you buy your servers from. e.g. Compaq servers cost just as much as Sun servers.
3.) For 25K you can get some pretty nice 420r rack mount Sun boxes. The processors may only be 450Mhz, but they come with 8 *MB* of Ecache! Can you say a Seti packet in 5 Hrs?
Well you can get one from eBay right now!
Umm, it also has the amazing ability to soak up RAM by the *gigabytes*! I administer Solaris boxes that run Oracle 8.x & 8.1.x and I have never witnessed a more bloated and buggy application in my life! Oracle has an amazing propensity to "runaway" when a developer discovers one of the many bugs, processes then use enourmous amounts of CPU and gobble up RAM often exhausting all RAM and swap on the machine. (Yes, my swap partitions total 3x the amount of RAM, 6GB)
Umm...
:^)
1.) SMP
2.) If I want to use a GeForce 256
3.) And now because I can't buy an Athlon