a healthy population has a DIRECT correlation to higher productivity from your workforce, ergo higher profits
PEOPLE are using the healthcare services ad PEOPLE realize the profits
Roads and other public infrastructures allow your employees to come to work and customers to purchase your product/service.
true, both employees and customers pay for their right to use the infrastructure with their taxes plus property taxes dependent on value dependent on quality of infrastructure are paid on company's real estate
Police and Fire departments help to protect corporate assets from theft and destruction.
Canada and Denmark have their teritorial waters there, but i don't see them blowing brown people up half the world away or threatening independent states. There is nothing global about their tiny little posturing. I see maybe 3 candidates that are the real deal (the US, China, Russia) and really the US is in a league of their own. What is it, defense budget equal to the next 20 countries combined?
facebook is not real - it doesn't drive on roads and it doesn't shit. Employees and shareholders who do these things paid for them with their own taxes.
sure but if you want to convince anybody, you shouldn't mention global bullying as a beneficial way to spend tax revenue. That won't win you many allies.
why tax abstract entities at all? Set CIT to 0 and tax the money when it goes to live people if you really have to. People are material and it's them who use roads, police protection and what not. The corps on the other hand are an idea that can uproot and move with few strokes of a pen, good like pinning it down.
why? human life is not priceless by any stretch of imagination. Just recently hundreds of thousands died because of nonexistent WMDs in Iraq, many thousands of innocent people died in the war on the terrorist boogeyman. At least in case of home invasion your personal safety is directly endangered and that makes the use of force infinitely more legitimate than wars causing deaths of thousands because sociopaths ruling the world can't get along. Who said breaking into the house is only about stealing shit? there are sickos who would love to tie you to force you watch the rape on your wife/daughter just because.
lol i get the shortcomings and quirks of slavic languages:) i just wanted to point out it's not all roses if you learn a language from other family with a different set of features. 7 cases and multiple flavors of declension suck, but 15 tenses suck too, it works both ways.
Also we don't use old counting thingies where 5, 50, 500 things suddenly become 'of the things' so it's not so obvious when to use it.
well, we got nothing on the French who add 20s o.O
we like our slavic languages like that, thank you very much;) On the other hand they have nowhere near the amount of tenses English language has. As a Polish I can say it's a pain for us to learn the difference between simple past tense and present perfect (more or less collapsed into simple past), we don't have past perfect tense anymore and direct equivalents of continuous tenses feel awkward (words make sense but nobody would talk like that ever, simple tenses all the way). Also we don't use a/the thingie (or ein/der in german) at all so it's not so obvious when to use it. When your native language lacks some feature and you don't feel it, it's a pain in the ass to absorb it.
i guess the US as a whole doesn't know that either, as evidenced by hundreds of children killed in the war on terror. Are they today's equivalent of the 3/5 of a person, not worth as much as little white 'Muricans?
seriously, when did you see wage raises being ahead of prices? even if your employer is generous, in the best case scenario your wage is updated yearly. Problem: the cpi describes the past ("We had 5% y/y inflation" = prices are up 5% during last year). Your wage is playing catch-up with a non-negligible lag, nobody gives inflation based raises before the inflation happens. Many people don't have even that and get significant pay cuts in real terms.
true that. Every time there is a new legislation protecting some group, workers in general, women, pregnant women, minorities, you name it, the employers preemptively discriminate against that group so they don't have to bother down the road. By hiring someone from any protected group, they give up flexibility and get liabilities/risk lawsuits instead. It's a barrier of non-zero cost and a very shitty deal in uncertain times. All these excessive protections mean that businesses can't really experiment with products/business plans without fully committing, they can't be up to date with fast changing market. They prefer to wait and see, especially in uncertain times.
Technology exploits the potential difference between workers but the process will stop. Investing in machines has to be profitable (people have to have money to spend on your wares) so you can't get rid of all labor as the returns will diminish fast.
even in best case scenario (which doesn't happen) i'd prefer 0% inflation and 0% raise than 5%/5%, thank you very much. Prices rise more or less smoothly while your wage graph looks like stairs. The difference between those 2 functions is not 0 and you lose at all these small triangles between stair step (your wage) and smooth, more or less linear envelope of that stair (prices)
wtf? tell that to the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe when govt/central bankers conjure money out of thin air, they transfer a chunk of purchasing power distributed among the existing money to that new pool. They had nothing before, now they have some purchasing power to spend. Magic? If you keep it simple, taxation is about transfering purchasing power to the govt and both legit taxation and inflation fulfill these criteria. Actions of govt bodies have nothing to do with supply and demand and everything to do with central planning.
f that... if you have fucked up incentive structure, no amount of wishful thinking will make it work. Billion dollar company that competes with another billion dollar company will have an advantage if it manages to save 100M in taxes and the other one doesn't - it can expand/invest more or slash prices to undercut the opponent. Expecting companies to pay shitloads of taxes out the goodness of their hearts is as naive as it gets. System so out of touch with reality can't work and won't work.
Besides it doesn't matter the companies have billions of profit. In the end they don't spend that money, people do. Why bother with hunting down the game running in circles, just wait patiently next to the water source and they will come.
main reason the us hc is fucked up: the tax code. WW2 era wage freezes that made employers offer other perks, a practice that was later rubberstamped by the congress. Employer based insurance is paid with pre-tax dollars, individual insurance is paid with post-tax dollars - of course everybody will pick employer provided option. That led to the moronic situation where you are bound to your employer like a dog on a leash and the whole industry is geared towards group insurance so the individuals have next to no bargaining power. Protectionist legislation rising barriers of entry for out-of-state competition certainly doesn't help, neither does using insurance for trivial bullshit that should be paid out of pocket.
nice ad hominem. Why won't you do the same with B.H.Obama who is directly responsible for deaths of thousands as the head of the war machine. Oh yeah, he looks cool on TV and poses for memetastic photos a lot so he's justified.
What i don't get though that you can't talk even hypothetically about secession in the US. Ron Paul recently said that the secession, no matter how improbable, should always be on the table, so the federal government doesn't get too comfortable with pushing plebes around. He was shat all over by everyone, including all those tolerant, peace loving progressives. Are they against self-determination and freedom of association only because 200 years ago people's ancestors joined some union?
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pensions in california:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH91X-5X40Q
Example: Halliburton rebuilding the Middle East
PEOPLE in charge of Haliburton profit from it
a healthy population has a DIRECT correlation to higher productivity from your workforce, ergo higher profits
PEOPLE are using the healthcare services ad PEOPLE realize the profits
Roads and other public infrastructures allow your employees to come to work and customers to purchase your product/service.
true, both employees and customers pay for their right to use the infrastructure with their taxes plus property taxes dependent on value dependent on quality of infrastructure are paid on company's real estate
Police and Fire departments help to protect corporate assets from theft and destruction.
property taxes cover that
Canada and Denmark have their teritorial waters there, but i don't see them blowing brown people up half the world away or threatening independent states. There is nothing global about their tiny little posturing.
I see maybe 3 candidates that are the real deal (the US, China, Russia) and really the US is in a league of their own. What is it, defense budget equal to the next 20 countries combined?
so you say no property taxes, which supposedly fund the fire protection, were paid on the HQ building?
facebook is not real - it doesn't drive on roads and it doesn't shit. Employees and shareholders who do these things paid for them with their own taxes.
insure yourself so you won't have to sell your property for peanuts when it's already on fire - problem solved.
it's in the interest of insurance companies to lower the impact of fires and some even fund their own firefighters.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Private-firefighters-role-growing-in-state-3275585.php
sure but if you want to convince anybody, you shouldn't mention global bullying as a beneficial way to spend tax revenue. That won't win you many allies.
contractors are not included in the official headcount yet for all intents and purposes they are govt employees. And they are not cheap.
It's simple - see through the bullshit and judge the size of the govt by what it spends.
why tax abstract entities at all? Set CIT to 0 and tax the money when it goes to live people if you really have to. People are material and it's them who use roads, police protection and what not. The corps on the other hand are an idea that can uproot and move with few strokes of a pen, good like pinning it down.
sorry, meant to reply to another post
where the police are obliged to protect your personal property and your life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
where we have a military that enforces our economic interests
did you just advocate colonialism 2.0?
where the police are obliged to protect your personal property and your life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
where we have a military that enforces our economic interests
did you just advocate colonialism 2.0?
why? human life is not priceless by any stretch of imagination. Just recently hundreds of thousands died because of nonexistent WMDs in Iraq, many thousands of innocent people died in the war on the terrorist boogeyman.
At least in case of home invasion your personal safety is directly endangered and that makes the use of force infinitely more legitimate than wars causing deaths of thousands because sociopaths ruling the world can't get along. Who said breaking into the house is only about stealing shit? there are sickos who would love to tie you to force you watch the rape on your wife/daughter just because.
lol i get the shortcomings and quirks of slavic languages :) i just wanted to point out it's not all roses if you learn a language from other family with a different set of features. 7 cases and multiple flavors of declension suck, but 15 tenses suck too, it works both ways.
Also we don't use old counting thingies where 5, 50, 500 things suddenly become 'of the things' so it's not so obvious when to use it.
well, we got nothing on the French who add 20s o.O
we like our slavic languages like that, thank you very much ;) On the other hand they have nowhere near the amount of tenses English language has. As a Polish I can say it's a pain for us to learn the difference between simple past tense and present perfect (more or less collapsed into simple past), we don't have past perfect tense anymore and direct equivalents of continuous tenses feel awkward (words make sense but nobody would talk like that ever, simple tenses all the way). Also we don't use a/the thingie (or ein/der in german) at all so it's not so obvious when to use it.
When your native language lacks some feature and you don't feel it, it's a pain in the ass to absorb it.
i guess the US as a whole doesn't know that either, as evidenced by hundreds of children killed in the war on terror. Are they today's equivalent of the 3/5 of a person, not worth as much as little white 'Muricans?
seriously, when did you see wage raises being ahead of prices?
even if your employer is generous, in the best case scenario your wage is updated yearly. Problem: the cpi describes the past ("We had 5% y/y inflation" = prices are up 5% during last year). Your wage is playing catch-up with a non-negligible lag, nobody gives inflation based raises before the inflation happens.
Many people don't have even that and get significant pay cuts in real terms.
true that. Every time there is a new legislation protecting some group, workers in general, women, pregnant women, minorities, you name it, the employers preemptively discriminate against that group so they don't have to bother down the road. By hiring someone from any protected group, they give up flexibility and get liabilities/risk lawsuits instead. It's a barrier of non-zero cost and a very shitty deal in uncertain times. All these excessive protections mean that businesses can't really experiment with products/business plans without fully committing, they can't be up to date with fast changing market. They prefer to wait and see, especially in uncertain times.
Technology exploits the potential difference between workers but the process will stop. Investing in machines has to be profitable (people have to have money to spend on your wares) so you can't get rid of all labor as the returns will diminish fast.
even in best case scenario (which doesn't happen) i'd prefer 0% inflation and 0% raise than 5%/5%, thank you very much.
Prices rise more or less smoothly while your wage graph looks like stairs. The difference between those 2 functions is not 0 and you lose at all these small triangles between stair step (your wage) and smooth, more or less linear envelope of that stair (prices)
wtf? tell that to the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe
when govt/central bankers conjure money out of thin air, they transfer a chunk of purchasing power distributed among the existing money to that new pool. They had nothing before, now they have some purchasing power to spend. Magic? If you keep it simple, taxation is about transfering purchasing power to the govt and both legit taxation and inflation fulfill these criteria.
Actions of govt bodies have nothing to do with supply and demand and everything to do with central planning.
f that...
if you have fucked up incentive structure, no amount of wishful thinking will make it work. Billion dollar company that competes with another billion dollar company will have an advantage if it manages to save 100M in taxes and the other one doesn't - it can expand/invest more or slash prices to undercut the opponent. Expecting companies to pay shitloads of taxes out the goodness of their hearts is as naive as it gets.
System so out of touch with reality can't work and won't work.
Besides it doesn't matter the companies have billions of profit. In the end they don't spend that money, people do. Why bother with hunting down the game running in circles, just wait patiently next to the water source and they will come.
are you kidding? useful pigs, cows and chickens are nowhere near extinction.
main reason the us hc is fucked up: the tax code. WW2 era wage freezes that made employers offer other perks, a practice that was later rubberstamped by the congress.
Employer based insurance is paid with pre-tax dollars, individual insurance is paid with post-tax dollars - of course everybody will pick employer provided option. That led to the moronic situation where you are bound to your employer like a dog on a leash and the whole industry is geared towards group insurance so the individuals have next to no bargaining power. Protectionist legislation rising barriers of entry for out-of-state competition certainly doesn't help, neither does using insurance for trivial bullshit that should be paid out of pocket.
nice ad hominem. Why won't you do the same with B.H.Obama who is directly responsible for deaths of thousands as the head of the war machine. Oh yeah, he looks cool on TV and poses for memetastic photos a lot so he's justified.
they are butthurt morons.
What i don't get though that you can't talk even hypothetically about secession in the US. Ron Paul recently said that the secession, no matter how improbable, should always be on the table, so the federal government doesn't get too comfortable with pushing plebes around. He was shat all over by everyone, including all those tolerant, peace loving progressives. Are they against self-determination and freedom of association only because 200 years ago people's ancestors joined some union?