That is not measly at all for a bachelors degree where you only stay in engineering and never move to management. That is actually the high end. You need a masters to deserve more than that.
This is the talent that our country has invested so much resource in producing.
This quote is from the Wadhwa guy is asinine. Most engineers and scientists pay their own way through college via student loans or well earned scholarships and tuition isn't cheap, nor is it getting cheaper. For example, I have to work my ass off for what amounts to about 17,000 a year including stipend and scholarships. What the school gets in return is my knowledge at bargain basement prices. This being the case, I don't believe our society pays diddly crap for my education, so I owe society nothing. Until society actually wants to pay for educating its engineers and scientists, I see no reason engineers and scientists should not be looking out for themselves. Ultimately that is what everyone else is doing anyway. Ill work in finance if it becomes a reasonable option.
Modular is a crutch, that works well in some general fields, but are unwieldy or even a waste of resources and a roadblock in other fields.
And meticulously crafted software is also a crutch, a waste of time and resources, and a roadblock in some other fields. What exactly is the argument here?
It also gives you less job security, since if your code is easily understood and extensible, they can hire someone else at a lower wage to add on to it with ease.
Assembly should be taught to every CS major yes, but its more useful to the Computer Engineers. A good CS dude is partially a mathematician and as such they think in functions and operations (i.e. procedural language).
I went through two years of CS courses at a university as a math major. They used Java as the language and frankly, it was the worst choice for beginning programming students. Its too modern, teaches you to be sloppy (with the whole garbage collection thing) and does not give you a good understanding of how a computer actually works. When I took C programming classes it was a much better course, as you had to be careful with memory allocation, pointers and such and the language is only procedural based, which makes more sense if you are in Calc I or Precalc over objects to a freshmen. Even though I don't know any assembly, I believe it would have been the best choice for a freshmen intro to CS course followed by a class in C. Java should only be a class you take as needed.
The fact of the matter is that business time and time again is anti-competitive and non-innovative because idiot business people try to protect "old revenue streams".
Had they not cut taxes on the rich since Reagan this would not be a problem. Rich people don't like to use their own money to pay for their governing the rest of us.
If I was tetraplegia and I didn't have the ability to use computers like everyone else I would probably rather die. At least you could play games and sort of escape reality. You could also work, and have some sense of purpose like you said.
I like the dark with some ambient light coming in. Its relaxing. I also like faint blue artificial light during the night, also relaxing. I guess I just like the dark even though Im not a goth or anything. I only really enjoy the sun when Im out hiking, on a lake or at the beach or something.
I use dual monitors all the time. Being able to read instructions or a scientific article in one window while you are applying it to code or a document in the other is very helpful. Most people don't need two monitors, but coders and some scientists will be the first to tell you how useful it is.
The secret of capitalism is to give people what they want at a price they will pay, not to punish them for doing something you didn't expect.
Clearly, the US corporation boards are full of a bunch of idiots, because hardly anyone obeys this principal. Record companies, movie companies, cell telecomm, internet companies, cable companies, Sony, Apple, etc. all punish you if you use what you purchase from them how you want to use it or charge you up the wazoo for simple cheap features (like SMS text messages).
Meanwhile they get richer and richer on economic policies no one can understand because they are too busy worrying about who their neighbor is fucking, or who got pregnant, or who is cheating on who. Our society is a joke. I only want everyone to be more or less equal according to their works. A CEO that does blow all day and makes millions off of the misery of others should not be paid more than a laborer that works their body to the bone six days a week.
In a free market there is always going to be a lowest class of people that gets shit wages for hard work. Unless you want to dramatically restructure society so that everyone is paid according to their works, and not the works of their wage slaves, you will never get equality.
A free market would include letting anyone from anywhere in the world compete for your job. If you want to have your job up for grabs by anyone more qualified than you, then you are a true free market guy. Otherwise, if you want labor protections, job security and special treatment as a citizen you are not free market at all. You can't have it both ways.
I agree. Corporations are quick to adapt socialist viewpoints when it benefits them, or spout out "free market" propaganda when it benefits them as well. The problem is, I don't harbor any ill will towards illegal immigrants. They are just trying to survive like everyone else.
I agree with you in part. Im just arguing that throwing out all the illegals wont necessarily fix the problem. Americans don't want these jobs, so someone else fills the niche.
Easiest way to fix that is to tax them, and that is where perhaps we agree in some way. However, even so 90 percent of Americans would not try do the jobs they do anyway. Maybe that's why we have almost a 10 percent unemployment.
There are no government official in either state or federal government that give a shit about public opinion. They are only there for themselves and their buddies in corporate America to get richer. Even if people are outraged, they will think up some way to divide the people and make them fight amongst themselves. Issues like abortion, gay marriage, etc. come to mind. None of these issues actually effect ANYONE beyond some moral outrage (which frankly people should keep morals to themselves). People need to grow up, but since our forefathers have systematically allowed the ruling class to position themselves with more and more power, as well as dismantle the education system from the ground up, I see only a totalitarian oligarchy in the future for America.
Illegal immigrants are doing jobs no American wants to do. I see it all over down here in Texas. Most Americans are shooting for a job in some facet of business. Illegal immigrants cannot do these jobs, so they do janitorial / house cleaning, basic labor, construction, and lawn maintenance. When is the last time you saw a born and bred American actively trying to do one of those jobs or complaining that they couldn't do one of those jobs because of the damn illegals? Sure, they don't deserve health care benefits and welfare if they don't pay taxes, but I see no threat from them in the job category.
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saw my pay top out at a measly 75k
That is not measly at all for a bachelors degree where you only stay in engineering and never move to management. That is actually the high end. You need a masters to deserve more than that.
This is the talent that our country has invested so much resource in producing.
This quote is from the Wadhwa guy is asinine. Most engineers and scientists pay their own way through college via student loans or well earned scholarships and tuition isn't cheap, nor is it getting cheaper. For example, I have to work my ass off for what amounts to about 17,000 a year including stipend and scholarships. What the school gets in return is my knowledge at bargain basement prices. This being the case, I don't believe our society pays diddly crap for my education, so I owe society nothing. Until society actually wants to pay for educating its engineers and scientists, I see no reason engineers and scientists should not be looking out for themselves. Ultimately that is what everyone else is doing anyway. Ill work in finance if it becomes a reasonable option.
-Math PhD student.
I didn't *really* understand pointers until I understood how values and addresses are stored in memory
This was taught to me in my C programming class. I had a hard ass teacher though who gave difficult programming assignments.
Modular is a crutch, that works well in some general fields, but are unwieldy or even a waste of resources and a roadblock in other fields. And meticulously crafted software is also a crutch, a waste of time and resources, and a roadblock in some other fields. What exactly is the argument here?
It also gives you less job security, since if your code is easily understood and extensible, they can hire someone else at a lower wage to add on to it with ease.
Assembly should be taught to every CS major yes, but its more useful to the Computer Engineers. A good CS dude is partially a mathematician and as such they think in functions and operations (i.e. procedural language).
I went through two years of CS courses at a university as a math major. They used Java as the language and frankly, it was the worst choice for beginning programming students. Its too modern, teaches you to be sloppy (with the whole garbage collection thing) and does not give you a good understanding of how a computer actually works. When I took C programming classes it was a much better course, as you had to be careful with memory allocation, pointers and such and the language is only procedural based, which makes more sense if you are in Calc I or Precalc over objects to a freshmen. Even though I don't know any assembly, I believe it would have been the best choice for a freshmen intro to CS course followed by a class in C. Java should only be a class you take as needed.
The fact of the matter is that business time and time again is anti-competitive and non-innovative because idiot business people try to protect "old revenue streams".
Had they not cut taxes on the rich since Reagan this would not be a problem. Rich people don't like to use their own money to pay for their governing the rest of us.
If I was tetraplegia and I didn't have the ability to use computers like everyone else I would probably rather die. At least you could play games and sort of escape reality. You could also work, and have some sense of purpose like you said.
Chattur'gha wishes to destroy this knowledge. Mantorok is your only hope.
I like the dark with some ambient light coming in. Its relaxing. I also like faint blue artificial light during the night, also relaxing. I guess I just like the dark even though Im not a goth or anything. I only really enjoy the sun when Im out hiking, on a lake or at the beach or something.
I use dual monitors all the time. Being able to read instructions or a scientific article in one window while you are applying it to code or a document in the other is very helpful. Most people don't need two monitors, but coders and some scientists will be the first to tell you how useful it is.
Win for corporate America.
The funniest times that happens is when they somehow pan left or right from a static image and call it some sort of extrapolation.
The secret of capitalism is to give people what they want at a price they will pay, not to punish them for doing something you didn't expect.
Clearly, the US corporation boards are full of a bunch of idiots, because hardly anyone obeys this principal. Record companies, movie companies, cell telecomm, internet companies, cable companies, Sony, Apple, etc. all punish you if you use what you purchase from them how you want to use it or charge you up the wazoo for simple cheap features (like SMS text messages).
Meanwhile they get richer and richer on economic policies no one can understand because they are too busy worrying about who their neighbor is fucking, or who got pregnant, or who is cheating on who. Our society is a joke. I only want everyone to be more or less equal according to their works. A CEO that does blow all day and makes millions off of the misery of others should not be paid more than a laborer that works their body to the bone six days a week.
In a free market there is always going to be a lowest class of people that gets shit wages for hard work. Unless you want to dramatically restructure society so that everyone is paid according to their works, and not the works of their wage slaves, you will never get equality.
A free market would include letting anyone from anywhere in the world compete for your job. If you want to have your job up for grabs by anyone more qualified than you, then you are a true free market guy. Otherwise, if you want labor protections, job security and special treatment as a citizen you are not free market at all. You can't have it both ways.
I agree. Corporations are quick to adapt socialist viewpoints when it benefits them, or spout out "free market" propaganda when it benefits them as well. The problem is, I don't harbor any ill will towards illegal immigrants. They are just trying to survive like everyone else.
I agree with you in part. Im just arguing that throwing out all the illegals wont necessarily fix the problem. Americans don't want these jobs, so someone else fills the niche.
Easiest way to fix that is to tax them, and that is where perhaps we agree in some way. However, even so 90 percent of Americans would not try do the jobs they do anyway. Maybe that's why we have almost a 10 percent unemployment.
Who cares. Twitter is a pile of crap, and should be a passing fad if it weren't for the deluge of idiots that exist these days.
There are no government official in either state or federal government that give a shit about public opinion. They are only there for themselves and their buddies in corporate America to get richer. Even if people are outraged, they will think up some way to divide the people and make them fight amongst themselves. Issues like abortion, gay marriage, etc. come to mind. None of these issues actually effect ANYONE beyond some moral outrage (which frankly people should keep morals to themselves). People need to grow up, but since our forefathers have systematically allowed the ruling class to position themselves with more and more power, as well as dismantle the education system from the ground up, I see only a totalitarian oligarchy in the future for America.
Illegal immigrants are doing jobs no American wants to do. I see it all over down here in Texas. Most Americans are shooting for a job in some facet of business. Illegal immigrants cannot do these jobs, so they do janitorial / house cleaning, basic labor, construction, and lawn maintenance. When is the last time you saw a born and bred American actively trying to do one of those jobs or complaining that they couldn't do one of those jobs because of the damn illegals? Sure, they don't deserve health care benefits and welfare if they don't pay taxes, but I see no threat from them in the job category.
So fire a satellite up into the sky.