I'd like to see a more quantitative study. Why not try to measure the ambient light in these environments? Then we can compare it to the light received in a telescope from various stars in the same local. Most people intuitively know that light pollution makes it so you cannot see the stars easily in brighter cities, why waste the time of multiple people to explain something obvious. Its better to actually get real and scientific data you can use for something worthwhile, like illumination correction, optimal location of observatories, etc.
I say, let it happen. The world needs another reset where the wealth is redistributed and people are made free. Its bound to happen some day anyway, just look at history and how many times people get desperate when the shit hits the fan. Just be prepared, get rifle and 1000+ rounds of ammunition for hunting and self defense. Stash water and water purification supplies. Get some tools with redundant supply, like two axes, two knives, two sharpening stones, two saws etc. Also, stash a bunch of dried goods such as beans and rice and also store plant seeds appropriate for your climate. I may sound like a loony but it never hurts to be prepared.
And then there are Chinese people who grew up in an oppressive and censored environment, who I also work with, that want to move to the US to have the social freedoms we have here. They come from such a shitty situation the economic oppression that happens in the US doesn't phase them, however the first thing they notice is that you can actually be your own human being here and only be bothered about it by a minority of crazy people (isolationists, fundamentalists, and racists).
You have too much time on your hands. I would wager you are a historian or a political science guy. People aren't as one dimensional as you claim, I have counter-examples with people I work with who are born-and-bred Chinese. There are numerous exceptions to the cultural identity you claim the Chinese all exhibit. I don't pretend to know your credentials, but it sounds to me like you either A) aren't Chinese and pretending to know everything based on some history classes, B) Spend too much time as a grad student or post-doc dissecting things until they are no longer reality or, C) simply generalize a group of people based on their history way too much. I agree history has a place in the pursuit of knowledge, but its no tool for extrapolating future behavior.
I work with Chinese people at a University lab. Most of them agree that dissenters are seen as "weird" in China, but they still would rather not have such social pressure on themselves and enjoy the social freedom they have in the US. I say social, because economic freedom is a separate issue. They realize the hypocrisies of the elders (Chinese professors, politicians, etc.) and the crappy treatment they get as educated people, and so they would rather go somewhere they are appreciated and given some autonomy. I talked with one of my colleagues today about this, and he said it is very abnormal for a Chinese citizen that goes overseas to study to go back home unless they work for the government or military, because those are the only two ways to make connections and get rich.
Unfortunately what its doing is putting money into the hands of a few people (0.5 percent the population) while taking the money away from the working class American and giving it to poorer countries. The end result will be that the poorer countries will be the next to be targeted by the super rich and one day only the mega rich will have anything and the rest of us will be killing eachother for scraps.
The biggest joke of all time is that CEO's and other board members as well as investors want increasingly large returns for themselves, while cutting the wages of their fellow Americans. Our wealthy class are a bunch of greedy pieces of shit, and one day it will bite them in the ass.
The problem is that the US is falling quickly, and probably catastrophically. You wouldn't believe the number of brilliant Chinese, Indian and other foriegner grad students I work with. Im at a tier one research university and including me, there are only 2 Americans working in my department!!! Im only 26, so if this pattern holds true there will be no Americans left in higher education in ten years.
Interestingly enough as a kid I was teased, made fun of, insulted and shunned for being smart. It ended up strengthening my resolve because I had such contempt for these people. They literally screwed around all the time, were disrespectful unjustifiably, many got pregnant or impregnated someone, and many simply drank/smoked/chewed too much. And thought THEY were cool? I just dropped totally out of the social structure in high school and did my own thing. It paid off in a way, as I am an almost graduated grad student and I don't miss a single one of them.
Precisely why the rich need to be taxed more or we need to move completely to a new tax system that doesn't penalize the poor so much. The rich owe it to a society that enables them to have all the benefits of being rich.
I agree whole heartedly. I find pieces of many different political philosophies appealing, but what I hate most is that all political parties focus on issues that should literally not even be issues. Who really cares if gays can get married? Does it affect your family? Who cares if abortion is legal or not? You can choose to get one if you want one illegally if you really want to if you are a liberal. Or if you are conservative, you can start putting your money where your mouth is and offer to take care of every baby born including the mothers medical expenses and compensation in a abortion-free state. Everyone talks about making more jobs, but no-one talks about the quality of the job. Can you support your family with it? They say "we are creating jobs" which makes people feel good so the people don't bother asking second level questions. What about the budget deficit? Is it really only because consumers went on a credit binge or what is because congressmen went on a spending binge? Both sides are guilty of this, liberals blaming government and defense spending, conservatives blaming liberal social programs and consumers. The real problem is that wealth is being taken away from America and being sent into the hands of a few and overseas. Nobody talks about taking measures to remedy this problem, they just blame eachother for the problem and offer up no solution other than, "dont vote for them, they screwed up". Really, what it boils down to is what you said. The wealthy ruling classes obfuscating their involvement in the bad things in America with emotionally charged crap.
I agree whole heatedly here. I want to go for a PhD but I can't really afford it so Im looking for work. I went about 75000 more into debt to get a MS and Ill probably only make about 5000-10000 more a year. I was fortunate enough to have most my undergrad paid for, but all the same. I suppose over time it works out, but in the mean time I have to pay large sums back to my loans and credit card (which I had to use periodically through school for books and groceries).
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That's the problem with hypotheticals. They never have all the true options available when it really happens.
I'd like to see a more quantitative study. Why not try to measure the ambient light in these environments? Then we can compare it to the light received in a telescope from various stars in the same local. Most people intuitively know that light pollution makes it so you cannot see the stars easily in brighter cities, why waste the time of multiple people to explain something obvious. Its better to actually get real and scientific data you can use for something worthwhile, like illumination correction, optimal location of observatories, etc.
I agree, Im just being an ass. Haha.
I say, let it happen. The world needs another reset where the wealth is redistributed and people are made free. Its bound to happen some day anyway, just look at history and how many times people get desperate when the shit hits the fan. Just be prepared, get rifle and 1000+ rounds of ammunition for hunting and self defense. Stash water and water purification supplies. Get some tools with redundant supply, like two axes, two knives, two sharpening stones, two saws etc. Also, stash a bunch of dried goods such as beans and rice and also store plant seeds appropriate for your climate. I may sound like a loony but it never hurts to be prepared.
It would be the Chinese equivalent word for "protest".
Dummkopf. (in spite of having mostly German immigrant ancestry, that's all I got).
Neither.
The average American has 1) No money 2) No power and 3) No education. Sounds to me like the Chinese are doing a pretty good job.
And then there are Chinese people who grew up in an oppressive and censored environment, who I also work with, that want to move to the US to have the social freedoms we have here. They come from such a shitty situation the economic oppression that happens in the US doesn't phase them, however the first thing they notice is that you can actually be your own human being here and only be bothered about it by a minority of crazy people (isolationists, fundamentalists, and racists).
You have too much time on your hands. I would wager you are a historian or a political science guy. People aren't as one dimensional as you claim, I have counter-examples with people I work with who are born-and-bred Chinese. There are numerous exceptions to the cultural identity you claim the Chinese all exhibit. I don't pretend to know your credentials, but it sounds to me like you either A) aren't Chinese and pretending to know everything based on some history classes, B) Spend too much time as a grad student or post-doc dissecting things until they are no longer reality or, C) simply generalize a group of people based on their history way too much. I agree history has a place in the pursuit of knowledge, but its no tool for extrapolating future behavior.
I work with Chinese people at a University lab. Most of them agree that dissenters are seen as "weird" in China, but they still would rather not have such social pressure on themselves and enjoy the social freedom they have in the US. I say social, because economic freedom is a separate issue. They realize the hypocrisies of the elders (Chinese professors, politicians, etc.) and the crappy treatment they get as educated people, and so they would rather go somewhere they are appreciated and given some autonomy. I talked with one of my colleagues today about this, and he said it is very abnormal for a Chinese citizen that goes overseas to study to go back home unless they work for the government or military, because those are the only two ways to make connections and get rich.
Its good in the short term, in the long term there will only be a handful of super rich and then everyone else will be at the same level of poor.
Go work for the defense. You probably could get a decent pay check for it.
Unfortunately what its doing is putting money into the hands of a few people (0.5 percent the population) while taking the money away from the working class American and giving it to poorer countries. The end result will be that the poorer countries will be the next to be targeted by the super rich and one day only the mega rich will have anything and the rest of us will be killing eachother for scraps.
Seconded.
How are we supposed to fix it? The wealthy classes have all the power.
The biggest joke of all time is that CEO's and other board members as well as investors want increasingly large returns for themselves, while cutting the wages of their fellow Americans. Our wealthy class are a bunch of greedy pieces of shit, and one day it will bite them in the ass.
Thanks for the tip, Ill check it out.
In other words, something so vague it shouldn't be able to be patented.
Id be glad to if you represent or are a prospective employer.
The problem is that the US is falling quickly, and probably catastrophically. You wouldn't believe the number of brilliant Chinese, Indian and other foriegner grad students I work with. Im at a tier one research university and including me, there are only 2 Americans working in my department!!! Im only 26, so if this pattern holds true there will be no Americans left in higher education in ten years.
Interestingly enough as a kid I was teased, made fun of, insulted and shunned for being smart. It ended up strengthening my resolve because I had such contempt for these people. They literally screwed around all the time, were disrespectful unjustifiably, many got pregnant or impregnated someone, and many simply drank/smoked/chewed too much. And thought THEY were cool? I just dropped totally out of the social structure in high school and did my own thing. It paid off in a way, as I am an almost graduated grad student and I don't miss a single one of them.
Precisely why the rich need to be taxed more or we need to move completely to a new tax system that doesn't penalize the poor so much. The rich owe it to a society that enables them to have all the benefits of being rich.
I agree whole heartedly. I find pieces of many different political philosophies appealing, but what I hate most is that all political parties focus on issues that should literally not even be issues. Who really cares if gays can get married? Does it affect your family? Who cares if abortion is legal or not? You can choose to get one if you want one illegally if you really want to if you are a liberal. Or if you are conservative, you can start putting your money where your mouth is and offer to take care of every baby born including the mothers medical expenses and compensation in a abortion-free state. Everyone talks about making more jobs, but no-one talks about the quality of the job. Can you support your family with it? They say "we are creating jobs" which makes people feel good so the people don't bother asking second level questions. What about the budget deficit? Is it really only because consumers went on a credit binge or what is because congressmen went on a spending binge? Both sides are guilty of this, liberals blaming government and defense spending, conservatives blaming liberal social programs and consumers. The real problem is that wealth is being taken away from America and being sent into the hands of a few and overseas. Nobody talks about taking measures to remedy this problem, they just blame eachother for the problem and offer up no solution other than, "dont vote for them, they screwed up". Really, what it boils down to is what you said. The wealthy ruling classes obfuscating their involvement in the bad things in America with emotionally charged crap.
I agree whole heatedly here. I want to go for a PhD but I can't really afford it so Im looking for work. I went about 75000 more into debt to get a MS and Ill probably only make about 5000-10000 more a year. I was fortunate enough to have most my undergrad paid for, but all the same. I suppose over time it works out, but in the mean time I have to pay large sums back to my loans and credit card (which I had to use periodically through school for books and groceries).