Not saying finance isnt important in a production business, but how many investment corps and huge hedge funds exist that make people super rich? In the markets these people delve into there has to be a loser for someone to win. Typically the loser is the lower classes.
There is evidence that immigration happened from both sides of the continent, i.e. from European settlers that lived sort of like Eskimos on a huge sheet of ice that connected Europe to N.America in the Pacific, as well as from Asia over more-or-less land between Russia and Alaska. The evidence is in the tools. Tools from the east coast mimic those of a European group, tools from the west coast around the same time mimic those of an Asian group. I suspect there was a mixing of both peoples. Basically, you could argue the white man came here to visit our long lost cousins.
Many people are far too easily impressed by the official look and larger-than-life appearance of whatever is given a slick presentation, especially on TV. It distracts them from any serious thought about how and why the show was produced and who benefits from its message.
This is the best explanation for why Apple fanboi's exist that I have ever read.
Thank you for the well wishes. I have found numerous jobs that I would qualify for but I haven't gotten contacted back yet. I suppose part of my problem is the Applied Math thing, as I would require training time to get up to speed on a particular problem. However, in my defense it would require much, much less than say a mechanical engineer applying for a software engineering position. I already program all the time for my RA job. I even applied for jobs that require a BS. Still no calls. Its sort of a bummer really. I can't afford to go for a PhD right now, but Im considering just going deep into debt to do it if I can't find work soon (Im already accepted at a university for it). Oh well, I bet it will happen some day.
An engineer has enough sense to decide if a bridge should or shouldnt be built. As a matter of fact, they have more sense than any finance professional. Finance professionals do provide a service in production based businesses, but in investment companies / hedge funds all they do is move money around trying to steal it from other people.
Engineers typically stop at Diff. Eq. and then learn very specific mathematical techniques from their engineering classes after that. The good engineers take higher math courses, but most of them don't. Basically, applied math is like being situated right smack dab in the middle of all the theoretical knowledge any engineer would need, without the practical experience. Nowadays to do a math degree right you need to take quite a bit of CS so sometimes places will hire math guys instead of CS if their experience is right. Right now my experience would suite me well for a scientific computation role, but its hard to find these jobs because grad students do it for beans at universities. I want to go for my PhD, but I can't really afford it right now so that is why Im looking for work.
Yes. MBA = Professional Schmoozer. Its a worthless profession of elitist cutthroats and backstabbers that actually serve no purpose in society yet somehow is the easiest way to get rich.
Exactly why this shit should be illegal. It makes our society cutthroat and tends to put those who play fair, are honest and hardworking in the poor house while making a super-rich class of degenerate corrupt assholes.
Im not saying Law isn't necessary. Unfortunately with Lawyers you have rich people getting off the hook for blatant criminal acts, ridiculous lawsuits over unprovable mental injury, ridiculous punitive damages for nothing, and patent trolling, all extremely non-productive for a society. Also, with finance you have people who are ridiculously rich by stealing from the lower classes through credit, insider trading, legalized fraud (think goldman sachs selling facebook stock), forex scams, etc. Insider trading is more common than people think. Just because financiers have money to give you for your idea doesn't mean they got it by being productive.
Interesting enough though, that was a MBA decision. Save money for short term gains, get big bonuses, but at what cost? How many outsourcing horror stories are there?
This was my point exactly in an earlier post, though I did not say it as eloquently as you. I have a MS in math and I can't find work. I apply to numerous jobs, I try to do everything Im supposed to do including following up, sending transcripts, etc. but I never get a call back. When I peer over to the other side of the wall (i.e. finance/MBA jobs) Im seeing more of them and higher pay. Finance isn't easy but its easier than math and finance produces nothing, whereas at least math can be used to build bridges that won't collapse, compute the most efficient design for wings, etc.
Yeah, and scientists make money for companies too. They are responsible for intellectual property, trade secrets, and infrastructure. Finance majors may contribute something, but MBAs do nothing a senior engineer / scientist could do. Its a joke degree unless you do it later in your career, such as an engineer going back for his MBA so he can transfer to a management position over less senior engineers. The problem with America is people put too much weight on worthless professions like lawyers, and stock market investors. They produce nothing by themselves, they are only good at legally stealing money from one person and putting it in their own pocket.
Maybe if they would actually hire STEM people it would help. Ive been looking for a job for 6 months with a MS in Applied Math (signal processing / computational math) and a 3.65 GPA (not super impressive, but I give out my transcript anyway). Nowadays in America, you get MBA's and Finance majors getting all the high paying jobs, and an MBA is a notoriously easy degree to get. I know several people that laugh about how easy it was to get their MBA, because all they did was get drunk, skip class, and screw hookers all the time.
Yep. Funny how Apple fanboi's always say other manufacturers make crappier products and that's why Macs are worth the extra 50-100 percent markup when there are innumerable counterexamples to this stupid claim. My HP ultraportable has great battery life, its thinner/lighter than the Macbook pros, and its made of aluminum. Its sturdy, boots fast, doesn't get hot, and doesn't crash. It also cost about half the price of the cheapest Macbook pro.
Also check out Asus. They have historically the lowest failure rate in their products. Its even less failures than Apple (as a matter of fact many manufacturers have lower failure rates than Apple). They do offer some models with SSD and aluminum chassis. If you must have a SSD on a different non-SSD model then you can at least install one yourself on most other manufacturer laptops as they always have these bays accessible (Apple doesn't anymore probably because they charge you up the wazoo for extra RAM and hard drive capacity). After you install the SSD you can use the recovery disc included (you have to pay extra for HP) and it will reformat the SSD to be just like the original PC. My wife actually owns a Macbook Pro and the magnetic power cable is very finnicky. Sometimes it won't charge unless you jostle it around, and it also gets knocked out of the socket really easily if our little dog walks past it and catches it on their foot. I believe its because they put fragile and bendable pins on the connectors. In comparison, on my HP the dog can catch its foot on the cable and it just stays runs off their foot without yanking the cable out or pulling the laptop away from me. I think the lesson here is that no matter what power cable you have, you need to take care. The Envy also may not be the best option for you, also check out the HP Performance models. They have aluminum chassis except for the bottom which is plastic. Its actually nice this way, as it has more of an ergonomic feel and doesn't slide around on tables like Macbooks do (or get scratched up). One thing to consider is that aluminum chassis is sort of a gimmick at times. You can get great sturdy laptops made of plastic. If you still prefer aluminum over and equally sturdy plastic laptop its only for the flash of it.
Like many top people in academia, hes a professional schmoozer and salesman. Seriously, if you actually look at many principal investigators they slap their names on papers when the grad students and post docs do all the work and have most of the ideas.
My macbook pro easily meets the 7 hour battery life they've claimed
So does my ultra-portable HP with aluminum chassis and 7200 rpm hard drive (Apple sticks with 5400 rpm or sticks their long barbed wiener up your butt for an SSD upgrade.)
But having gone through the process of pricing up laptops to get everything I have in my macbook it would cost nearly as much or more in some cases. Part of the reason for this is it seems to be nearly impossible to get an SSD in a laptop which seems retarded but you're looking at quite a big bump up in the price to add the equivalent sized SSD into a Wintel laptop.
Bullshit, I can price a laptop with everything a Mac has for between half to three-quarters the price. I can even throw in an SSD and keep it as cheap as I just said. Check out the HP Envy or Performance models.
Again even if you do get all those things it will still be in a cheap plastic case, it will almost certainly still be thicker, run warmer and louder. I don't think it's any surprise a lot of developers can be seen with Macbooks even if they aren't running OS X. The hardware is quality and it's built in such a way that you end up with something that resembles what a laptop should be rather than some big ugly plastic thing that gives you back pains carrying it around.
Once again, bullshit. HP even makes laptops with aluminum cases now, and there are other manufacturers that do the same.
People need to take a break from their anti-apple circle jerk and remember that the newest macbook features brand new technology in it like Intel's Thunderbolt. It is just as likely that can cause problems even if you're not actually plugging anything into the port. One thing Apple does do that many other companies don't is adapt new technologies sooner and as a result are more likely to get bit in the ass by something going wrong. One of two things will happen. It can be resolved in a short period through software or maybe the 2011 models will just be notorious for being rubbish and smart people will pass on them and wait for the next iteration where the issue may not exist.
Wrong. Thunderbolt should have no bearing on the OS stability, and if it does then they should not have implemented it in the first place or waited to release the next batch of Macbooks until the stability was handled. Apple is a egotistical wallet rapist. They have the nerve to say they make superior products, charge a ridiculous premium, and then claim "It just works" when time and time again its proven wrong. They didn't even bother to fix the iPhone antenna issue. Some fucking consumer friendly company they are. They just don't give a damn about you or anyone else, and treat the consumer as if they should be glad to even be graced by a Apple product.
But of course some people just like to hate on things they can't afford.
Now you just sound like an asshole. People hate big ego's, and Apple has the biggest one, and they have NO RIGHT TO IT. Or is it cool with you that a company time and time again charges more than their product is worth, treats the consumer like an idiot, and then fails to address hardware issues with any form of refurbishment or recall?
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Not saying finance isnt important in a production business, but how many investment corps and huge hedge funds exist that make people super rich? In the markets these people delve into there has to be a loser for someone to win. Typically the loser is the lower classes.
There is evidence that immigration happened from both sides of the continent, i.e. from European settlers that lived sort of like Eskimos on a huge sheet of ice that connected Europe to N.America in the Pacific, as well as from Asia over more-or-less land between Russia and Alaska. The evidence is in the tools. Tools from the east coast mimic those of a European group, tools from the west coast around the same time mimic those of an Asian group. I suspect there was a mixing of both peoples. Basically, you could argue the white man came here to visit our long lost cousins.
At my university, its Chinese, Greek, Czech, Russian, and English professors teaching Chinese, Indian, and American.
Many people are far too easily impressed by the official look and larger-than-life appearance of whatever is given a slick presentation, especially on TV. It distracts them from any serious thought about how and why the show was produced and who benefits from its message.
This is the best explanation for why Apple fanboi's exist that I have ever read.
Thank you for the well wishes. I have found numerous jobs that I would qualify for but I haven't gotten contacted back yet. I suppose part of my problem is the Applied Math thing, as I would require training time to get up to speed on a particular problem. However, in my defense it would require much, much less than say a mechanical engineer applying for a software engineering position. I already program all the time for my RA job. I even applied for jobs that require a BS. Still no calls. Its sort of a bummer really. I can't afford to go for a PhD right now, but Im considering just going deep into debt to do it if I can't find work soon (Im already accepted at a university for it). Oh well, I bet it will happen some day.
An engineer has enough sense to decide if a bridge should or shouldnt be built. As a matter of fact, they have more sense than any finance professional. Finance professionals do provide a service in production based businesses, but in investment companies / hedge funds all they do is move money around trying to steal it from other people.
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Engineers typically stop at Diff. Eq. and then learn very specific mathematical techniques from their engineering classes after that. The good engineers take higher math courses, but most of them don't. Basically, applied math is like being situated right smack dab in the middle of all the theoretical knowledge any engineer would need, without the practical experience. Nowadays to do a math degree right you need to take quite a bit of CS so sometimes places will hire math guys instead of CS if their experience is right. Right now my experience would suite me well for a scientific computation role, but its hard to find these jobs because grad students do it for beans at universities. I want to go for my PhD, but I can't really afford it right now so that is why Im looking for work.
Yes. MBA = Professional Schmoozer. Its a worthless profession of elitist cutthroats and backstabbers that actually serve no purpose in society yet somehow is the easiest way to get rich.
Exactly why this shit should be illegal. It makes our society cutthroat and tends to put those who play fair, are honest and hardworking in the poor house while making a super-rich class of degenerate corrupt assholes.
Im not saying Law isn't necessary. Unfortunately with Lawyers you have rich people getting off the hook for blatant criminal acts, ridiculous lawsuits over unprovable mental injury, ridiculous punitive damages for nothing, and patent trolling, all extremely non-productive for a society. Also, with finance you have people who are ridiculously rich by stealing from the lower classes through credit, insider trading, legalized fraud (think goldman sachs selling facebook stock), forex scams, etc. Insider trading is more common than people think. Just because financiers have money to give you for your idea doesn't mean they got it by being productive.
The best programmers are the ones that do it all the time at their house as a hobby, so you probably had it made anyway.
Interesting enough though, that was a MBA decision. Save money for short term gains, get big bonuses, but at what cost? How many outsourcing horror stories are there?
This was my point exactly in an earlier post, though I did not say it as eloquently as you. I have a MS in math and I can't find work. I apply to numerous jobs, I try to do everything Im supposed to do including following up, sending transcripts, etc. but I never get a call back. When I peer over to the other side of the wall (i.e. finance/MBA jobs) Im seeing more of them and higher pay. Finance isn't easy but its easier than math and finance produces nothing, whereas at least math can be used to build bridges that won't collapse, compute the most efficient design for wings, etc.
Well, it is probably healthier than starving since its a fortified cereal.
Yeah, and scientists make money for companies too. They are responsible for intellectual property, trade secrets, and infrastructure. Finance majors may contribute something, but MBAs do nothing a senior engineer / scientist could do. Its a joke degree unless you do it later in your career, such as an engineer going back for his MBA so he can transfer to a management position over less senior engineers. The problem with America is people put too much weight on worthless professions like lawyers, and stock market investors. They produce nothing by themselves, they are only good at legally stealing money from one person and putting it in their own pocket.
Maybe if they would actually hire STEM people it would help. Ive been looking for a job for 6 months with a MS in Applied Math (signal processing / computational math) and a 3.65 GPA (not super impressive, but I give out my transcript anyway). Nowadays in America, you get MBA's and Finance majors getting all the high paying jobs, and an MBA is a notoriously easy degree to get. I know several people that laugh about how easy it was to get their MBA, because all they did was get drunk, skip class, and screw hookers all the time.
Yep. Funny how Apple fanboi's always say other manufacturers make crappier products and that's why Macs are worth the extra 50-100 percent markup when there are innumerable counterexamples to this stupid claim. My HP ultraportable has great battery life, its thinner/lighter than the Macbook pros, and its made of aluminum. Its sturdy, boots fast, doesn't get hot, and doesn't crash. It also cost about half the price of the cheapest Macbook pro.
Also check out Asus. They have historically the lowest failure rate in their products. Its even less failures than Apple (as a matter of fact many manufacturers have lower failure rates than Apple). They do offer some models with SSD and aluminum chassis. If you must have a SSD on a different non-SSD model then you can at least install one yourself on most other manufacturer laptops as they always have these bays accessible (Apple doesn't anymore probably because they charge you up the wazoo for extra RAM and hard drive capacity). After you install the SSD you can use the recovery disc included (you have to pay extra for HP) and it will reformat the SSD to be just like the original PC. My wife actually owns a Macbook Pro and the magnetic power cable is very finnicky. Sometimes it won't charge unless you jostle it around, and it also gets knocked out of the socket really easily if our little dog walks past it and catches it on their foot. I believe its because they put fragile and bendable pins on the connectors. In comparison, on my HP the dog can catch its foot on the cable and it just stays runs off their foot without yanking the cable out or pulling the laptop away from me. I think the lesson here is that no matter what power cable you have, you need to take care. The Envy also may not be the best option for you, also check out the HP Performance models. They have aluminum chassis except for the bottom which is plastic. Its actually nice this way, as it has more of an ergonomic feel and doesn't slide around on tables like Macbooks do (or get scratched up). One thing to consider is that aluminum chassis is sort of a gimmick at times. You can get great sturdy laptops made of plastic. If you still prefer aluminum over and equally sturdy plastic laptop its only for the flash of it.
Like many top people in academia, hes a professional schmoozer and salesman. Seriously, if you actually look at many principal investigators they slap their names on papers when the grad students and post docs do all the work and have most of the ideas.
Like many top people in academia, hes a professional schmoozer and salesman.
... and subsequently the landfill.
Don't worry, there will be tons of sniveling Apple fanboi's and early adopters waiting in line every new release to blow their latest pay check.
To make it an easier process next time, mail me 4000 dollars, I will kick you in the nuts, and if you don't like it Ill refund your money 100 percent.
My macbook pro easily meets the 7 hour battery life they've claimed
So does my ultra-portable HP with aluminum chassis and 7200 rpm hard drive (Apple sticks with 5400 rpm or sticks their long barbed wiener up your butt for an SSD upgrade.)
But having gone through the process of pricing up laptops to get everything I have in my macbook it would cost nearly as much or more in some cases. Part of the reason for this is it seems to be nearly impossible to get an SSD in a laptop which seems retarded but you're looking at quite a big bump up in the price to add the equivalent sized SSD into a Wintel laptop.
Bullshit, I can price a laptop with everything a Mac has for between half to three-quarters the price. I can even throw in an SSD and keep it as cheap as I just said. Check out the HP Envy or Performance models.
Again even if you do get all those things it will still be in a cheap plastic case, it will almost certainly still be thicker, run warmer and louder. I don't think it's any surprise a lot of developers can be seen with Macbooks even if they aren't running OS X. The hardware is quality and it's built in such a way that you end up with something that resembles what a laptop should be rather than some big ugly plastic thing that gives you back pains carrying it around.
Once again, bullshit. HP even makes laptops with aluminum cases now, and there are other manufacturers that do the same.
People need to take a break from their anti-apple circle jerk and remember that the newest macbook features brand new technology in it like Intel's Thunderbolt. It is just as likely that can cause problems even if you're not actually plugging anything into the port. One thing Apple does do that many other companies don't is adapt new technologies sooner and as a result are more likely to get bit in the ass by something going wrong. One of two things will happen. It can be resolved in a short period through software or maybe the 2011 models will just be notorious for being rubbish and smart people will pass on them and wait for the next iteration where the issue may not exist.
Wrong. Thunderbolt should have no bearing on the OS stability, and if it does then they should not have implemented it in the first place or waited to release the next batch of Macbooks until the stability was handled. Apple is a egotistical wallet rapist. They have the nerve to say they make superior products, charge a ridiculous premium, and then claim "It just works" when time and time again its proven wrong. They didn't even bother to fix the iPhone antenna issue. Some fucking consumer friendly company they are. They just don't give a damn about you or anyone else, and treat the consumer as if they should be glad to even be graced by a Apple product.
But of course some people just like to hate on things they can't afford.
Now you just sound like an asshole. People hate big ego's, and Apple has the biggest one, and they have NO RIGHT TO IT. Or is it cool with you that a company time and time again charges more than their product is worth, treats the consumer like an idiot, and then fails to address hardware issues with any form of refurbishment or recall?