Everything you said is just one more reason to drastically restructure the corporate world. Won't happen, I know. CEO's should have their bonuses delayed several years until the aftermath of their decisions are felt by the company.
Republicans and businessmen always go for short term gains at the cost of sustainability. Its taught to them differently when they get their MBA, but they always fall to greed and overconfidence.
People do buy them because they are hip and trendy. College students in particular. People also buy them because they are easy to use, and because they last long. Funny thing about that, Apple doesn't have a monopoly on either of those things so it really just boils down to personal preference and what is easy for YOU. I have computers from over 5 years ago running strong, no external damage or things falling off of them, and none of them are Apple.
Yeah. I agree. Down here in Houston we have a ton of freeloaders. Actually, the illegals aren't typically even the freeloaders as far as their contribution. They abuse the medical system a lot and drive up premiums which pisses me off, but at least they work hard for low wages. They line up waiting for work on the sides of roads and will do jobs most people don't want to do. I am not a racist, I sort of get a free pass there since my wife is black, but the hurricane Katrina refugees are the worst bunch. You see women with 3 kids from 2 different dads carrying around real Louis Vuitton purses and iPhones buying things at the store with food stamps when their kids are in old clothes. The welfare system is thoroughly abused and far from what it was intended. Its nice to have a safety net where you know you and your family wont starve if you get disabled or laid off but when people buy luxury items with their welfare its ridiculous. My wife use to work at a tattoo shop next to a skate shop and on the 1st and 16th of the month people would show up and spend ALL their welfare on new tattoos, piercings and sneakers. Awesome. They really should cut these people off. I guess you may have figured I am libertarian as well.
Your definition of "producing" is sort of insulting. I am a mathematician in training, starting a PhD program this fall. I can't call myself a mathematician because I have my MS and "mathematicians" almost always have a PhD. I helped create some code that is going to be used to identify people in 2D pictures. I.e. have a computer identify a person from a security camera footage. I haven't helped make any actual physical product yet. It exists as ideas and code. You can be a producer of ideas as well. Thats what Math is, but somehow it makes it possible to build skyscrapers and bridges, launch satelites, build nuclear reactors, etc. Maybe I am reading too much into what you say.
As having some experience in programming for scientific computing, I can say there are many, many short cuts people take that take up more CPU time or Memory but less of your time programming it. Typically you have to trade Memory usage for CPU time but many times people don't even try to optimize the trade off since they can make a quick program and let it run for two days instead of one. Saves them time coding, and gives them an excuse to take a long lunch. "Hey, Im waiting on the results anyway". All the same, you are right that more efficient algorithms are being researched.
You realize that Apple uses hard drives that are available to any other manufacturer. Apple's reliability is more so based on which components they pick, i.e. not dirt cheap ones from shit manufacturers. Even so you can buy better hard drives and upgrade your own Mac for cheaper than they charge you for a hard drive upgrade on their website. At my old job we had 7 year old Seagates and WD drives that worked great. Apple actually uses 5400 RPM drives, which are slower economical drives. Im pretty sure the reason they use 5400 rpm drives is because its a "Green" drive, i.e. saves power and lasts a bit longer. Its one reason they have long battery life, but not the only reason.
Some Performance and Ultraportable have aluminum chassis. I bought a Dv3z a year and a half ago with aluminum chassis, OK battery life (not like the MBP though) and its very, very thin and light. Some of the Performance models have better video cards and most have better hard drives. The video cards are not direct x 11 compliant, but still better overall. None of them have the new Sandy Bridge processors so Apple beats them there. However, Apple will be selling those Macbook Pros for the same price for a year or more, well after other people have those processors in their new lines. The most cost effective time to buy Apple is after a refresh and you buy a refurb of a previous generation or you buy the new MBP right now. I probably am going to do so next refresh after they up their graphics performance. I was a bit disappointed by the 13 inch not having dedicated. I know its better in some things like Starcraft but still... I don't know how Apple optimized battery life like they do, but even I only get 6 hours on my Ultraportable.
all the ones that are "cheeper" have noticeably poorer components, all the ones that are actually competitive are in the same price range or even higher.
Not true at all. HP makes damn sturdy laptops with the same or better hardware in them. You do have to pay more than 400-500 dollars but its no 2000 bucks like Apple.
Now I can't imagine using anything else, because the build quality is superior to anything to any other brand. It still feels solid after 2 years and in perfect shape.
This is simply not true anymore. HP makes a damn good and sturdy laptop in their performance and ultraportable lines. Apple definitely set the bar high a few years ago but it forced other manufacturers to catch up. Granted, if you buy a 400 dollar laptop its going to be a piece of shit. However, if you go for 600-1200 range you can get a decent, sturdy and well-made machine. HP even makes aluminum and magnesium/aluminum cases on many of their laptops now. Dell still sucks. Even the Alienware brand went tits up when they took over.
Define "Mainstream performance". Sure, its too ambiguous to really tack down, but that's my point. Its a marketing thing, ambiguous enough to mean anything. They didn't say they would get 90 percent of the mean speed of all desktops.
You are an idiot. American cheese is not used as widely as you think. There is also a state called Wisconsin that makes good Cheddar and other cheeses. Ever tried a Shiner? Its better than Newcastle and about the same cost. Ever try an American micro-brew? There are shitloads of them and they are easily better than any British beer. Americans do like things with flavor, poor people can't afford things with flavor. In America, there are a lot of poor people and there are a lot of "sin taxes" that drive the cost of good alcohol up. Poor people do the best with what they can afford. The same shit happens elsewhere. Poor people use the guts of animals for food all over the world, and some spice it up right so it taste good. Do you think blood pudding started as a rich person food? Have you ever had poor American style food? Its called soul food and its fucking good, but not so good for your heart. Frankly, you come across as an arrogant Euro-centric asshat.
If there were not any sin taxes then people could afford to buy better than swill. Frankly, I do enjoy a Miller Lite occasionally because its slightly more refreshing than a darker beer, and darker beer I drink for taste. Its the same thing as using a cheaper wine to make sangria or something and drinking a 40 dollar bottle for a good wine experience. Incandescent light bulbs should be a choice. If you pay more for electricity, well you are making that choice. Personally, I prefer natural daylight so I maximize that in my small apartment with mirrors and blinds and stuff. Lights are rarely on in my house, so why not buy a cheap bulb for when I need it?
How about Atomic Twister or The Black Hole. Come on! They used to actually release halfway decent made for TV movies but now its all crap. I used to watch the original BSG, The Incredible Hulk (with Ferrigno) and Swamp Thing. The greedy assholes ruined the channel by trying to increase profits, even though they already made a decent one.
So true. Most of the good Sci-fi movies are, suprise, not American made anymore or they are Indie films or both. Even the Facebook movie was a piece of shit and I didn't much care for the Black Swan. The Kings Speech was awesome, but guess what, not American made. There are some good TV shows out there on US premium channels like Dexter, but standard cable is full of trash.
I don't buy this at all. They used to have shows like Swamp Thing, The Incredible Hulk, The Six Million Dollar Man, etc. etc. They also use to show movies that were halfway decent, even if made for TV, like Brave New World. As a kid I would pretend to be sick so I could stay home and watch it all day long. Every one of my friends used to watch it, as did my dad and his friends. We even sat through commercials. Its more likely that the Sci-fi channel was taken over by greedy corporate dickheads that slashed higher costs for good shows by showing cheap crap that is proven to attract idiots that buy anything you put in front of them on infomercials. They are just trying to up profits from previously adequate levels. Its the same reason reality TV took over. Cheap to make and dumb-asses watch the shows = more revenue than before.
This quote is probably taken out of context as usual by Intel fanboy's. It was designed to compete with the Atom, and it beats it hands down. Not to mention AMD allows you to use OpenCL on their Fusion lines now and in the future. Im sure once people start accelerating their software with the on die GPU's it will speed things up quite a bit. Also, they could be releasing more newer fusion processors using Bobcat cores that will reach 90 percent. These processors were released specifically to compete with Atom, not reach the 90 percent goal the first iteration.
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Everything you said is just one more reason to drastically restructure the corporate world. Won't happen, I know. CEO's should have their bonuses delayed several years until the aftermath of their decisions are felt by the company.
Republicans and businessmen always go for short term gains at the cost of sustainability. Its taught to them differently when they get their MBA, but they always fall to greed and overconfidence.
People do buy them because they are hip and trendy. College students in particular. People also buy them because they are easy to use, and because they last long. Funny thing about that, Apple doesn't have a monopoly on either of those things so it really just boils down to personal preference and what is easy for YOU. I have computers from over 5 years ago running strong, no external damage or things falling off of them, and none of them are Apple.
Yeah. I agree. Down here in Houston we have a ton of freeloaders. Actually, the illegals aren't typically even the freeloaders as far as their contribution. They abuse the medical system a lot and drive up premiums which pisses me off, but at least they work hard for low wages. They line up waiting for work on the sides of roads and will do jobs most people don't want to do. I am not a racist, I sort of get a free pass there since my wife is black, but the hurricane Katrina refugees are the worst bunch. You see women with 3 kids from 2 different dads carrying around real Louis Vuitton purses and iPhones buying things at the store with food stamps when their kids are in old clothes. The welfare system is thoroughly abused and far from what it was intended. Its nice to have a safety net where you know you and your family wont starve if you get disabled or laid off but when people buy luxury items with their welfare its ridiculous. My wife use to work at a tattoo shop next to a skate shop and on the 1st and 16th of the month people would show up and spend ALL their welfare on new tattoos, piercings and sneakers. Awesome. They really should cut these people off. I guess you may have figured I am libertarian as well.
Yeah, My processor is a Amd Neo X2 which is meant mainly for low power. Its still better than my 5 year old desktop processor.
Your definition of "producing" is sort of insulting. I am a mathematician in training, starting a PhD program this fall. I can't call myself a mathematician because I have my MS and "mathematicians" almost always have a PhD. I helped create some code that is going to be used to identify people in 2D pictures. I.e. have a computer identify a person from a security camera footage. I haven't helped make any actual physical product yet. It exists as ideas and code. You can be a producer of ideas as well. Thats what Math is, but somehow it makes it possible to build skyscrapers and bridges, launch satelites, build nuclear reactors, etc. Maybe I am reading too much into what you say.
Are there any products producers produce.......?
Uhh. I call bullshit.
As having some experience in programming for scientific computing, I can say there are many, many short cuts people take that take up more CPU time or Memory but less of your time programming it. Typically you have to trade Memory usage for CPU time but many times people don't even try to optimize the trade off since they can make a quick program and let it run for two days instead of one. Saves them time coding, and gives them an excuse to take a long lunch. "Hey, Im waiting on the results anyway". All the same, you are right that more efficient algorithms are being researched.
You realize that Apple uses hard drives that are available to any other manufacturer. Apple's reliability is more so based on which components they pick, i.e. not dirt cheap ones from shit manufacturers. Even so you can buy better hard drives and upgrade your own Mac for cheaper than they charge you for a hard drive upgrade on their website. At my old job we had 7 year old Seagates and WD drives that worked great. Apple actually uses 5400 RPM drives, which are slower economical drives. Im pretty sure the reason they use 5400 rpm drives is because its a "Green" drive, i.e. saves power and lasts a bit longer. Its one reason they have long battery life, but not the only reason.
Apple is pretty good about their software upgrades being cheap too.
Some Performance and Ultraportable have aluminum chassis. I bought a Dv3z a year and a half ago with aluminum chassis, OK battery life (not like the MBP though) and its very, very thin and light. Some of the Performance models have better video cards and most have better hard drives. The video cards are not direct x 11 compliant, but still better overall. None of them have the new Sandy Bridge processors so Apple beats them there. However, Apple will be selling those Macbook Pros for the same price for a year or more, well after other people have those processors in their new lines. The most cost effective time to buy Apple is after a refresh and you buy a refurb of a previous generation or you buy the new MBP right now. I probably am going to do so next refresh after they up their graphics performance. I was a bit disappointed by the 13 inch not having dedicated. I know its better in some things like Starcraft but still... I don't know how Apple optimized battery life like they do, but even I only get 6 hours on my Ultraportable.
all the ones that are "cheeper" have noticeably poorer components, all the ones that are actually competitive are in the same price range or even higher.
Not true at all. HP makes damn sturdy laptops with the same or better hardware in them. You do have to pay more than 400-500 dollars but its no 2000 bucks like Apple.
Now I can't imagine using anything else, because the build quality is superior to anything to any other brand. It still feels solid after 2 years and in perfect shape.
This is simply not true anymore. HP makes a damn good and sturdy laptop in their performance and ultraportable lines. Apple definitely set the bar high a few years ago but it forced other manufacturers to catch up. Granted, if you buy a 400 dollar laptop its going to be a piece of shit. However, if you go for 600-1200 range you can get a decent, sturdy and well-made machine. HP even makes aluminum and magnesium/aluminum cases on many of their laptops now. Dell still sucks. Even the Alienware brand went tits up when they took over.
You are like a jive talking angel.
Define "Mainstream performance". Sure, its too ambiguous to really tack down, but that's my point. Its a marketing thing, ambiguous enough to mean anything. They didn't say they would get 90 percent of the mean speed of all desktops.
You are an idiot. American cheese is not used as widely as you think. There is also a state called Wisconsin that makes good Cheddar and other cheeses. Ever tried a Shiner? Its better than Newcastle and about the same cost. Ever try an American micro-brew? There are shitloads of them and they are easily better than any British beer. Americans do like things with flavor, poor people can't afford things with flavor. In America, there are a lot of poor people and there are a lot of "sin taxes" that drive the cost of good alcohol up. Poor people do the best with what they can afford. The same shit happens elsewhere. Poor people use the guts of animals for food all over the world, and some spice it up right so it taste good. Do you think blood pudding started as a rich person food? Have you ever had poor American style food? Its called soul food and its fucking good, but not so good for your heart. Frankly, you come across as an arrogant Euro-centric asshat.
If there were not any sin taxes then people could afford to buy better than swill. Frankly, I do enjoy a Miller Lite occasionally because its slightly more refreshing than a darker beer, and darker beer I drink for taste. Its the same thing as using a cheaper wine to make sangria or something and drinking a 40 dollar bottle for a good wine experience. Incandescent light bulbs should be a choice. If you pay more for electricity, well you are making that choice. Personally, I prefer natural daylight so I maximize that in my small apartment with mirrors and blinds and stuff. Lights are rarely on in my house, so why not buy a cheap bulb for when I need it?
Only a Intel fanboy would rate my post as flamebait.
How about Atomic Twister or The Black Hole. Come on! They used to actually release halfway decent made for TV movies but now its all crap. I used to watch the original BSG, The Incredible Hulk (with Ferrigno) and Swamp Thing. The greedy assholes ruined the channel by trying to increase profits, even though they already made a decent one.
So true. Most of the good Sci-fi movies are, suprise, not American made anymore or they are Indie films or both. Even the Facebook movie was a piece of shit and I didn't much care for the Black Swan. The Kings Speech was awesome, but guess what, not American made. There are some good TV shows out there on US premium channels like Dexter, but standard cable is full of trash.
Not sci-fi, but fucking awesome : The I.T. Crowd.
I don't buy this at all. They used to have shows like Swamp Thing, The Incredible Hulk, The Six Million Dollar Man, etc. etc. They also use to show movies that were halfway decent, even if made for TV, like Brave New World. As a kid I would pretend to be sick so I could stay home and watch it all day long. Every one of my friends used to watch it, as did my dad and his friends. We even sat through commercials. Its more likely that the Sci-fi channel was taken over by greedy corporate dickheads that slashed higher costs for good shows by showing cheap crap that is proven to attract idiots that buy anything you put in front of them on infomercials. They are just trying to up profits from previously adequate levels. Its the same reason reality TV took over. Cheap to make and dumb-asses watch the shows = more revenue than before.
They probably incorporated the GPU's into the calculation. You can use OpenCL to use the GPU's for parallel tasks and take load off the Bobcat core.
This quote is probably taken out of context as usual by Intel fanboy's. It was designed to compete with the Atom, and it beats it hands down. Not to mention AMD allows you to use OpenCL on their Fusion lines now and in the future. Im sure once people start accelerating their software with the on die GPU's it will speed things up quite a bit. Also, they could be releasing more newer fusion processors using Bobcat cores that will reach 90 percent. These processors were released specifically to compete with Atom, not reach the 90 percent goal the first iteration.