You see it most on hotline sites. It goes like this:
Pick up some mp3 trackers for hotline, search 'mp3', and you get a big list of hotline servers. Usually they're run by some guy in a college dorm. Log onto Joe's server, and you'll get a message that says something to the effect of "You are logged in as a guest. To download files, you need a password. To get the password, visit my homepage at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ip address and click on the second banner. The tenth word on the resulting page is the password."
So they get income that way. And then the user downloads a bunch of music and moves on to the next one.
Would anybody actually pay more than say, two bucks for a can of pop, no matter how hot it is outside? Geez. I doubt they would turn a profit if they went over a dollar.
If I'm hot or tired, I crave water or fruit juice anyway. Not pop.
I'm not telling Christians to quit talking. In fact, most Christians (btw, I am not a Christian) aren't talking. I have several friends who are Christians, and they do not go around trying to convert everybody. Nor do they complain about Christians being treated unfairly by the world at large.
I am irritated, however, by the vocal minorities of the respective groups that seem to be reasonably successful at giving their entire group a bad name.
If I see one more post here about how geeks are victimized, or how Christians are victimized, or any other self-proclaimed martyrdom, I hereby make an insanity plea in advance, because I will not be responsible for my actions.
GET OVER IT EVERYBODY. You are not a victim. Yes, you - the person staring at a screen reading this post right now. The world is not against you. There is no mass conspiracy to wipe out/shun your particular group. So stop defining yourself by the wrongs inflicted against you. If you consider yourself a part of a particular group and you feel that the other group is "profiling" you or abusing you, I suggest you look more closely at the other group, and see what they are really about.
I think you will find there is plenty of room in this world for both groups, and that they are not mutually exclusive.
When colonization starts happening on the moon or mars or wherever, there will be a bunch of people that bought property from somebody who want their piece of it. They're gonna be pretty bummed...:-)
They made the poll point to the Robin Miller discussion on women! That will keep it going for a while yet, and probably also cause a fair amount of confusion when a bunch of valid posts are moderated as "offtopic". That's my guess anyway.
About the poll - I'm not one to complain about this, but there really wasn't any option that was even close to my answer, nor was there a "throwaway" option (Rob sux, onions are blue) to indicate none of the above. And I don't think I'm in the minority.
I get along with girls just fine, and have several friends that are girls. But they aren't constantly coming on to me...
We are not so one-sided (well, I know I'm not...) that we need these things explained to us in computer terms. I mean, "women have HOWTOs"??? Come on.
I guess for people like you most of this is sound advice, but I know geeks and geek girls that get along GREAT together. And it's not about being able to discuss computer hardware with them. It's about not having to always dumb it down by talking about the latest gossip and fashions each day.
Smart people often like to just throw around ideas recklessly, making for some very unusual conversations. I know a guy who is a smart computer person, and has a girlfriend who is also a smart computer person. They hardly ever talk about computers. They talk about everything from time travel and astrophysics to the intricacies in the etiquete for calling shotgun. The difference is that their conversation takes place at a much higher level than a typical husband and wife conversation. To outsiders it sounds downright weird, but that's what happens when two people hit the same wavelength.
I still don't know much about cDc itself. Are your identities secret? Do lots of people know who you are or do you lead two lives or something like that?
Has the cult grown much over time, or is it a group of core members that have been around since the begining?
Do you see each other often, or at all? Or do you just communicate over the net using aliases?
Are you guys geographically separated, or do you all live in one area? Where do you guys live? Is the cDc in the US?
Google has had that Linux search since their alpha days. I believe they also had a Stanford search. They just put it on their front page now, along with one on government documents.
Seriously, if you want a fully buzzword enabled OS with some raw power behind it (not to mention something that is up to date, clean, an quite free of cruft) I don't think you can do much better than BeOS.
Try it! It really is Bliss expressed in 1's and 0's!
Sure, it's a fake newspaper written to be funny, but it just doesn't match the Onion. It's more like your basic tabloid with less celebrity gossip/paparazzi type stuff. It's a bunch of fake articles meant to sound plausible, like this one here. There is not much real wit behind it and it caters to a much shallower audience.
The Onion, on the other hand, is often genius, or at least wacky enough to really draw a laugh. It is more appreciated by people with a brain and its writers do a good job of savagely skewering practically anything or anyone. Every sentence in its articles can be savored for its double meaning and irony so thick you can cut it with a knife.
Yes, this article is a joke. No, it isn't well written, and it's not all that funny.
With a new breed of flashy interfaces on sysadmin/hacking tools, this makes the perfect answer to the earlier discussion about movies. Somebody doing some kind of hacking job could have it shown visually in the movie by having the person move in 3D through a room.
And it wouldn't give up anything in the way of realism.
It would go against everything that is true of all movies. It would be a documentary. If fictional it would be, well, a work of fiction that looks like a documentary.
For instance, take a popular hacker issue that involves a big, evil government and has at its heart the invasion of privacy. The bad guys would naturally be the NSA and the good guy could be pretty much anybody who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. For the stupid audiences out there, it would hammer home the point over and over that we have to worry about our privacy now while we still have some.
This could be made into a dramatic movie, right? And it would probably involve hackers typing away on computer terminals, right? Right on both counts - such a movie has in fact been made and if you've seen it you know exactly the movie I'm talking about: Enemy of the State.
It isn't a very good movie. It's your typical action plot that involves corruption in high places, and the guy (Will Smith) has a wife that keeps nagging him that we have to worry about our privacy, which makes it very campy. And of course the computer geek is a fat messy Dennis Nedry sort who has a mean streak a mile wide and types fast and has a maniacal laugh.
> The Solow paradox says that computers don't > seem to add anything to the productivity > statistics.
Hmmm, first nobody was using computers in their business, now everyone is. It's a matter of keeping up with everyone else. Try running a business NOW without any computers. Just bring in the typewriters and keep track of all paperwork in huge filing rooms. Type all reports for clients/investors individually.
Are they so concerned about the porn that they'll work to make mp3s easier to get, so that people won't have to look at those "horrifying" pictures?
That would be interesting...
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You see it most on hotline sites. It goes like this:
Pick up some mp3 trackers for hotline, search 'mp3', and you get a big list of hotline servers. Usually they're run by some guy in a college dorm. Log onto Joe's server, and you'll get a message that says something to the effect of "You are logged in as a guest. To download files, you need a password. To get the password, visit my homepage at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ip address and click on the second banner. The tenth word on the resulting page is the password."
So they get income that way. And then the user downloads a bunch of music and moves on to the next one.
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grappler
Would anybody actually pay more than say, two bucks for a can of pop, no matter how hot it is outside? Geez. I doubt they would turn a profit if they went over a dollar.
If I'm hot or tired, I crave water or fruit juice anyway. Not pop.
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grappler
Head on over here and then see what you think.
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grappler
I'm not telling Christians to quit talking. In fact, most Christians (btw, I am not a Christian) aren't talking. I have several friends who are Christians, and they do not go around trying to convert everybody. Nor do they complain about Christians being treated unfairly by the world at large.
I am irritated, however, by the vocal minorities of the respective groups that seem to be reasonably successful at giving their entire group a bad name.
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grappler
If I see one more post here about how geeks are victimized, or how Christians are victimized, or any other self-proclaimed martyrdom, I hereby make an insanity plea in advance, because I will not be responsible for my actions.
GET OVER IT EVERYBODY. You are not a victim. Yes, you - the person staring at a screen reading this post right now. The world is not against you. There is no mass conspiracy to wipe out/shun your particular group. So stop defining yourself by the wrongs inflicted against you. If you consider yourself a part of a particular group and you feel that the other group is "profiling" you or abusing you, I suggest you look more closely at the other group, and see what they are really about.
I think you will find there is plenty of room in this world for both groups, and that they are not mutually exclusive.
That is all.
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grappler
When colonization starts happening on the moon or mars or wherever, there will be a bunch of people that bought property from somebody who want their piece of it. They're gonna be pretty bummed... :-)
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grappler
If you've done this before, I've never noticed.
They made the poll point to the Robin Miller discussion on women! That will keep it going for a while yet, and probably also cause a fair amount of confusion when a bunch of valid posts are moderated as "offtopic". That's my guess anyway.
About the poll - I'm not one to complain about this, but there really wasn't any option that was even close to my answer, nor was there a "throwaway" option (Rob sux, onions are blue) to indicate none of the above. And I don't think I'm in the minority.
I get along with girls just fine, and have several friends that are girls. But they aren't constantly coming on to me...
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grappler
As long as he ports to Linux, I hope he considers a port to BeOS as well.
After all, it is billed as the Media OS, and considered very good for working with digital media...
...if only some APPLICATIONS would get written for it...
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grappler
We are not so one-sided (well, I know I'm not...) that we need these things explained to us in computer terms. I mean, "women have HOWTOs"??? Come on.
I guess for people like you most of this is sound advice, but I know geeks and geek girls that get along GREAT together. And it's not about being able to discuss computer hardware with them. It's about not having to always dumb it down by talking about the latest gossip and fashions each day.
Smart people often like to just throw around ideas recklessly, making for some very unusual conversations. I know a guy who is a smart computer person, and has a girlfriend who is also a smart computer person. They hardly ever talk about computers. They talk about everything from time travel and astrophysics to the intricacies in the etiquete for calling shotgun. The difference is that their conversation takes place at a much higher level than a typical husband and wife conversation. To outsiders it sounds downright weird, but that's what happens when two people hit the same wavelength.
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grappler
Why do companies use code names for projects? It's not like it's a secret to anybody. Can anyone answer that?
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grappler
People, we are talking about Comdex - a COMPUTER convention (Read - the biggest assembly of nerds of the year).
How did sex ever enter into the picture?
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grappler
I assumed the whole concept of "jam echelon day" was a big joke to begin with, and people put those keywords in their email out of a sense of humor.
Of COURSE it won't have any effect on the NSA. Sheesh...
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grappler
I still don't know much about cDc itself. Are your identities secret? Do lots of people know who you are or do you lead two lives or something like that?
Has the cult grown much over time, or is it a group of core members that have been around since the begining?
Do you see each other often, or at all? Or do you just communicate over the net using aliases?
Are you guys geographically separated, or do you all live in one area? Where do you guys live? Is the cDc in the US?
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grappler
Google has had that Linux search since their alpha days. I believe they also had a Stanford search. They just put it on their front page now, along with one on government documents.
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grappler
Seriously, if you want a fully buzzword enabled OS with some raw power behind it (not to mention something that is up to date, clean, an quite free of cruft) I don't think you can do much better than BeOS.
Try it! It really is Bliss expressed in 1's and 0's!
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grappler
Sure, it's a fake newspaper written to be funny, but it just doesn't match the Onion. It's more like your basic tabloid with less celebrity gossip/paparazzi type stuff. It's a bunch of fake articles meant to sound plausible, like this one here. There is not much real wit behind it and it caters to a much shallower audience.
The Onion, on the other hand, is often genius, or at least wacky enough to really draw a laugh. It is more appreciated by people with a brain and its writers do a good job of savagely skewering practically anything or anyone. Every sentence in its articles can be savored for its double meaning and irony so thick you can cut it with a knife.
Yes, this article is a joke. No, it isn't well written, and it's not all that funny.
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grappler
With a new breed of flashy interfaces on sysadmin/hacking tools, this makes the perfect answer to the earlier discussion about movies. Somebody doing some kind of hacking job could have it shown visually in the movie by having the person move in 3D through a room.
And it wouldn't give up anything in the way of realism.
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grappler
Doesn't this look like exactly the kind of sysadmin tool that needs to be bundled with Jesux?
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grappler
...how do you save a drowning lawyer?
good.
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grappler
How would you like to be the first to demonstrate that immortality can literally be purchased?
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grappler
It was probably just their way of showing the viewer how close the computer was to cracking the key - the more digits it locks, the closer it is.
.... NX .... NX
Obviously it is bull - if it worked that way the problem of breaking the key would be reduced from (assuming letters and numbers like they had):
36 * 36 * 36 * 36 * 36
tries in the worst case, to
36 + 36 + 36 + 36 + 36
tries, for X number of digits in the code
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grappler
It would go against everything that is true of all movies. It would be a documentary. If fictional it would be, well, a work of fiction that looks like a documentary.
For instance, take a popular hacker issue that involves a big, evil government and has at its heart the invasion of privacy. The bad guys would naturally be the NSA and the good guy could be pretty much anybody who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. For the stupid audiences out there, it would hammer home the point over and over that we have to worry about our privacy now while we still have some.
This could be made into a dramatic movie, right? And it would probably involve hackers typing away on computer terminals, right? Right on both counts - such a movie has in fact been made and if you've seen it you know exactly the movie I'm talking about: Enemy of the State.
It isn't a very good movie. It's your typical action plot that involves corruption in high places, and the guy (Will Smith) has a wife that keeps nagging him that we have to worry about our privacy, which makes it very campy. And of course the computer geek is a fat messy Dennis Nedry sort who has a mean streak a mile wide and types fast and has a maniacal laugh.
That's about as close as it'll get I think.
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grappler
> The Solow paradox says that computers don't
> seem to add anything to the productivity
> statistics.
Hmmm, first nobody was using computers in their business, now everyone is. It's a matter of keeping up with everyone else. Try running a business NOW without any computers. Just bring in the typewriters and keep track of all paperwork in huge filing rooms. Type all reports for clients/investors individually.
I bet your productivity wouldn't be very high.
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grappler
Anyone know if www.x11.org is still alive? They seem to be locked in a kind of never-ending delay.
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grappler