And why is this a problem?
To put in another way: do you see a problem in having gazillions of manufacturers of power tools for wood/metal works for example?
Yes, I'M AN ENT you insensitive clod!
Your post must be nothing (i.e. be extremely irrelevant) even for you: it took you less than a few hours for you to post it and it is well know that "ents only say something if it takes a long time to say it"
Sounds like a public enough declaration of support for open-source drivers?
With respect only to development boards for the SoCs in question. Actual production devices...
Quote from the OP:
This would be worth so much more if the board's chipsets supported freely licensed drivers.
In the context, I understand the "boards" as "development boards for the SoC in question" and not "actual production devices". Thus a Linux port with OSS drivers working strictly for the delivered dev board is good enough for me - as I don't plan to use a dev board as a actual mass production device (like a smart-phone or what-not for an end-consumer).
Valuable lesson. Next time, though, they may not do it just for the LULZ, so there may be a lesson for you to learn as well ("balanced response" instead of "conflict escalation"?)
These punks need to learn that there are consequences for their actions. The trolling culture on the internet today teaches kids (and man-children) that as long as you're laughing, you win, and there are never any consequences for fucking with people. A reminder of how the real world works is long overdue.
Yeah... let me give another facet of the real world. Assume that a full investigation (possible lengthy) goes to the end, they are found, prosecuted, declared guilty and convicted to incarceration... I wonder if you realize that this whole process is paid from your and other tax-payers pockets And for what? Because somebody is pissed of some LULZ. (would you do the same if, instead of defacing a site, they'd throw a glass of red wine on your white shirt?)
But really, now that I see it, it is a double standard. When I now reflect on it all, it truly doesn't matter whether they are targeting an organization I have no respect for or one I have complete respect for. It is illegal. They are breaking the law and disrupting the business of the public. It needs to stop.
Joking (but only half of... the other half just controversial)
No, it doesn't! It needs to continue until all the vulnerable sites go "extinct as a species". Not only it will be better for the site owners, but this will lead to a higher respect for security and better payment for ethical IT business/professionals. Why is it better for the owners of the site to externalize the cost of securing their site to the tax-payers that need to support the cost of police/prosecution/incarceration of victim-less "hacking crimes"?
Until they make a public announcement to the contrary we have no reason to believe otherwise.
Depends on what you understand by hardware support... to me, it sounds very much like drivers
The 11.05 cycle will add hardware support for Samsung and Freescale in addition to the existing OMAP, ARM Versatile Express Platform and U8500 based boards.
and
Linaro is also working with its member chip companies to maximize upstream SoC support, i.e. to move most of the SoC specific drivers into the official sources on http://kernel.org/.
Sounds like a public enough declaration of support for open-source drivers?
The specs for this board are similar to the specs for the PandaBoard, which is less than $200.
The Pandaboard seems to be manufactured in batches, the available stock at their distributors shows a 0 quantity (thus a non-trivial wait time to get one - this may be a problem for some, but again may be not).
The problem with development boards is that there are gazillions of them out there, [...] A development board is normally only interesting when you want to try and make something with it
And why is this a problem? To put in another way: do you see a problem in having gazillions of manufacturers of power tools for wood/metal works for example?
Usually a change in major version number means major incompabilities, that's what the "major" means. I.e. Python 3 is incompatible with Python 2. GTK 3 is incompatible with GTK 2. etc.
Doing so when it is in fact not incompatible upsets people's expectations but is a pleasant surprise when they find out they don't actually have to adapt everything to it.
South Carolina's Oconee Nuclear Station will replace its analog monitoring and operating controls with digital systems
Chinese Military Admits Existence of Cyberwarfare Unit
Wait..
No need to wait, they are already there since a long time ago. Save what you can... in this case, some costs. After all, a blender is $30 at Walmart and this is great for the nation (hint: second phrase of TFA).
...hackers have been the reason digital systems haven't been adopted sooner.
Here's an idea, let's not connect it to the Internet.
Like the Iranian uranium enriching centrifuges were connected to the Internet?
Or... what? Are they going to relocate microcontroller plants in US... or, for the reasons of costs, will be just produced in... a nation which has a 30-strong Blue Army commando (strictly for defense, of course. It's not likely they'll ever plant backdoors in hardware, isn't it?)? Something in TFA hints the second. Let me see if I can find it... here, just at the beginning:
In a nation where a digital blender can be bought for about $30 at Walmart,
I wonder where that $30 blender was made? In Toyota plants?
"The internet has no boundaries, so we can't say which country or organisation will be our enemy and who will attack us. The Blue Army's main target is self-defence. We won't initiate an attack on anyone[.]"
This commando needs constant training... thus some tactical war-games are OK, I s'pose... they aren't destroying real targets, are they? Just penetrating and make some benign copies of the information they found, but... nobody is hurt... Not like a real attack.
But then again I'm one of those "worst case scenario" kind of persons.
LOL... I can infer a case of not enough "stupid movies weekends"
What about "thermal plumes causing mesosphere to fall in chunks" and category 7 storms?
And while it is true that Monsanto is not nearly as open with their data as they should be, they have never hid any dangers under the rug, mostly because there are no known dangers.
Huh? The rBGH relatedWTVT/Monsanto affair? With the stupefying end of it: FCC policy against falsification (of news) was not a "law, rule, or regulation"?
More than half a world refuses to import beef/diary from US because of that, but that's simply crazy because "no danger are known", isn't it?
I know the example is not in the GMO topic, but anyway..., can I really trust Monsanto when saying "no known danger"?
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And why is this a problem? To put in another way: do you see a problem in having gazillions of manufacturers of power tools for wood/metal works for example?
Yes, I'M AN ENT you insensitive clod!
Your post must be nothing (i.e. be extremely irrelevant) even for you: it took you less than a few hours for you to post it and it is well know that "ents only say something if it takes a long time to say it"
With respect only to development boards for the SoCs in question. Actual production devices ...
Quote from the OP:
This would be worth so much more if the board's chipsets supported freely licensed drivers.
In the context, I understand the "boards" as "development boards for the SoC in question" and not "actual production devices". Thus a Linux port with OSS drivers working strictly for the delivered dev board is good enough for me - as I don't plan to use a dev board as a actual mass production device (like a smart-phone or what-not for an end-consumer).
Am I missing something?
Until you get your teeth blasted out
Valuable lesson. Next time, though, they may not do it just for the LULZ, so there may be a lesson for you to learn as well ("balanced response" instead of "conflict escalation"?)
These punks need to learn that there are consequences for their actions. The trolling culture on the internet today teaches kids (and man-children) that as long as you're laughing, you win, and there are never any consequences for fucking with people. A reminder of how the real world works is long overdue.
Yeah... let me give another facet of the real world. Assume that a full investigation (possible lengthy) goes to the end, they are found, prosecuted, declared guilty and convicted to incarceration... I wonder if you realize that this whole process is paid from your and other tax-payers pockets
And for what? Because somebody is pissed of some LULZ. (would you do the same if, instead of defacing a site, they'd throw a glass of red wine on your white shirt?)
It is ironic that they violated the very freedom they see as being threatened
How did they violate it? Care to point to an information that shows that PBS was at any time in no position to express themselves?
But really, now that I see it, it is a double standard. When I now reflect on it all, it truly doesn't matter whether they are targeting an organization I have no respect for or one I have complete respect for. It is illegal. They are breaking the law and disrupting the business of the public. It needs to stop.
Joking (but only half of... the other half just controversial)
No, it doesn't! It needs to continue until all the vulnerable sites go "extinct as a species". Not only it will be better for the site owners, but this will lead to a higher respect for security and better payment for ethical IT business/professionals.
Why is it better for the owners of the site to externalize the cost of securing their site to the tax-payers that need to support the cost of police/prosecution/incarceration of victim-less "hacking crimes"?
Until they make a public announcement to the contrary we have no reason to believe otherwise.
Depends on what you understand by hardware support... to me, it sounds very much like drivers
The 11.05 cycle will add hardware support for Samsung and Freescale in addition to the existing OMAP, ARM Versatile Express Platform and U8500 based boards.
and
Linaro is also working with its member chip companies to maximize upstream SoC support, i.e. to move most of the SoC specific drivers into the official sources on http://kernel.org/ .
Sounds like a public enough declaration of support for open-source drivers?
Would be brilliant if there was anything interesting on!
With the TV set able to spy, the selection range may be wider. E.g.
You - during news: "Fuck X (a politician at you choice)"
TV: "would you like an pr0n movie featuring X? His TV captured some delicious scenes".
This would be worth so much more if the board's chipsets supported freely licensed drivers.
It seems that Linaro full support for Origen (see close to the end of the PDF) will be available in Q3/2011.
The specs for this board are similar to the specs for the PandaBoard, which is less than $200.
The Pandaboard seems to be manufactured in batches, the available stock at their distributors shows a 0 quantity (thus a non-trivial wait time to get one - this may be a problem for some, but again may be not).
The problem with development boards is that there are gazillions of them out there, [...] A development board is normally only interesting when you want to try and make something with it
And why is this a problem?
To put in another way: do you see a problem in having gazillions of manufacturers of power tools for wood/metal works for example?
Usually a change in major version number means major incompabilities, that's what the "major" means. I.e. Python 3 is incompatible with Python 2. GTK 3 is incompatible with GTK 2. etc. Doing so when it is in fact not incompatible upsets people's expectations but is a pleasant surprise when they find out they don't actually have to adapt everything to it.
This means: 3.0.x - expect disruptive changes?
...the princess attends the party topless...
Which was the norm in Thailand until maybe 75 years ago. (Feel free to thank pressure from Westerners for getting the ladies to cover up.)
WTF? I'm reading my post and don't see anything that remotely resembles any moral judgement from my side... just a couple of facts posted with links.
In it they describe their simple goal, right there in black and white, as plainly as they possibly can...
Taken from the context, but I think still relevant and true:
In a nation where a digital blender can be bought for about $30 at Walmart, the ...
... goal of going digital is to save money.
Nothing... just the old HCF. Not like it will never happen.
South Carolina's Oconee Nuclear Station will replace its analog monitoring and operating controls with digital systems
Chinese Military Admits Existence of Cyberwarfare Unit
Wait..
No need to wait, they are already there since a long time ago. Save what you can... in this case, some costs. After all, a blender is $30 at Walmart and this is great for the nation (hint: second phrase of TFA).
...hackers have been the reason digital systems haven't been adopted sooner.
Here's an idea, let's not connect it to the Internet.
Like the Iranian uranium enriching centrifuges were connected to the Internet?
Or... what? Are they going to relocate microcontroller plants in US... or, for the reasons of costs, will be just produced in... a nation which has a 30-strong Blue Army commando (strictly for defense, of course. It's not likely they'll ever plant backdoors in hardware, isn't it?)? Something in TFA hints the second. Let me see if I can find it... here, just at the beginning:
In a nation where a digital blender can be bought for about $30 at Walmart,
I wonder where that $30 blender was made? In Toyota plants?
I hope they not doing any hacking in to American networks, or businesses.
'Course not, who do you think they are?
"The internet has no boundaries, so we can't say which country or organisation will be our enemy and who will attack us. The Blue Army's main target is self-defence. We won't initiate an attack on anyone[.]"
This commando needs constant training... thus some tactical war-games are OK, I s'pose... they aren't destroying real targets, are they? Just penetrating and make some benign copies of the information they found, but... nobody is hurt... Not like a real attack.
But then again I'm one of those "worst case scenario" kind of persons.
LOL... I can infer a case of not enough "stupid movies weekends"
What about "thermal plumes causing mesosphere to fall in chunks" and category 7 storms?
Sorry, buddy, for Michigan's conditions only the relocation of the NYSE would help.
Thailand... were the prince throws a birthday party for his poodle and the princess attends the party topless. Truth to be told... the poodle is one of two Thai's Air Chief Marshals.
Just nuke the damn moon and let's get done with it.
Like this?
And while it is true that Monsanto is not nearly as open with their data as they should be, they have never hid any dangers under the rug, mostly because there are no known dangers.
Huh? The rBGH related WTVT/Monsanto affair? With the stupefying end of it: FCC policy against falsification (of news) was not a "law, rule, or regulation"?
More than half a world refuses to import beef/diary from US because of that, but that's simply crazy because "no danger are known", isn't it?
I know the example is not in the GMO topic, but anyway..., can I really trust Monsanto when saying "no known danger"?
NASA as Law Enforcement;...
I wonder what their badge looks like .. a giant erected golden rocket?
FTFY