Siemens didn't have a say; If you actually read the quotation,...
If you actually read my post, you'll note that I didn't say "will Siemens allow the presentation" but "will they allow the presentation". I was thinking to the same DHS.
I agree. However, there is a question missing from your list: why did they have a say?
In May, NSS Labs Researcher Dillon Beresford pulled out of a Dallas hacking conference at the last minute when Siemens was unable to fix problems he'd found in the firmware of its S7 programmable logic controller. After consulting with Siemens and the U.S. Department of Homeland security, NSS decided that it was simply too dangerous to go public with its information before a patch could be fully developed.
NSS Labs expects Siemens to issue a patch in the next few weeks, well ahead of the August presentation. "They didn't give any firm timelines," he said. "They said unofficially that they were pretty confident that they'll be able to get their stuff out before then."
Beresford wasn't impressed with that comment. [...]. "Now that they're trying to minimize the impact and do PR damage control, I feel that they're not servicing the public's interest," he said. "I'm not pleased with their response... They didn't provide enough information to the public."
What if Siemens confidence evaporates and, August time, some of these vulns are not yet patched? Will they allow the presentation?
Fuck Google, Fuck Bing. We have the power - Use IT!
The same type of power as the Brownian motion. And THEY are using it by having the appropriate containment cylinders and pistons to guide this motion - of course, in their interest.
(x) Microsoft will not put up with it
(x) Google will not put up with it
Wanna bet they actually will? Most probable, implementing it on their own?
Motivation: both of them want a chunk of "social media" (to the level of desperation of Google conditioning the employee bonuses on social media success). After all, a "real friend" needs to now how busy you are to protect your time, Google will provide you with the service and allow you to control the list of real friends. I think they'll even go a step further and tell the "friend" how many of your unread emails are important or just unpaid bills notifications: this is why you have friends, isn't it?
I'm confused. Packages are either left at the door or need a signature. How could faking that you are home convince a delivery guy to leave a package that needed a signature? And if you are not there will he not get in trouble if the package is stolen when you told him to leave it?
Guys, why bother with a cell network? We've got smartphones! What we need is a way to get our doorbell online - and make it all accessible from an app.
Mandatory... a door-bell app with single "Like" button to go to Facebook... screw visitors that don't have a Facebook account, you can't expect to engage in social interaction without FB nowadays.
You're not going to do the students any favors by taking the moral high ground here.
I consider I've done them a favor in not becoming a teacher - even if, by qualification, I should - and switched career about 20 years ago. If I can't fight this stupidity, at least it is not me to damage them. (like in "First, do no harm"; if you can't, then do nothing)
To put the things in perspective:
- Science Festival - New York - population: 19 mils+; easy access - attendance in 2010 <200.000 - Woodstock Festival - Bethel, NY - population < 5000; on a dairy farm - attendance in 1969 approx 500.000
Sure. Who else are they going to hire as designated fall guys for when excrement encounters rotary cooling devices?
You're right. Unfortunately, seems to be valid in a larger context than only CIA/ASIO - I'm seeing quite frequently some managers (at least in IT) doing the same; for the said managers, doesn't seem to mater that the delivery capacity is impacted: the hired persons just need to be cheap, then it's quite easy to use them as screens for the excrements.
I'd personally have no ethical qualms teaching students strategies for maximizing their scores,
I would, if teaching them strategies to maximize their score competes on the time available to teach them what is actually needed (among others, how to think! Especially critical thinking seems to be let aside today's "education"; sometimes I feel this is on purpose, until Hanlon's Razor pops into my mind).
Lots tests are based on cramming for the test and lead to people who can pass the test but they are clueless on what the test covers.
The tests are designed to be cost-effective, not insightful.
Take this FA as an example: select people that don't think much and the "security" is so much cheaper. As for the persons that do think (graduates or not)... heck, name them hackers and be done with them, they don't make good consumers.
Of course, if you converse long enough with a person, chances are high that the person also starts to become important for you.
TFS:
created by three million Twitter users over four years
I have a suspicion that the study methodology statistically took care of this, including the temporal stability of a relationship factor. I mean, what's your estimation on the probability to have a large numbers of cases like the one you described?
Importance is very difficult to quantify for any study because it's completely subjective.
Would you waste much time with a person if it wouldn't be important to you? (simply the number of message twittered on a topic may reveals something about the importance).
So subtract 50 for work, 30 for family and 20 for postman/butcher etc.
Let me point you that, in average, the real-world interaction of "a World of warcraft player with an active player group of say 40 people" is mediated by his mum and this happens sporadically during the day - specifically only when she comes to drop, in the basement. the pizza and the energy drinks ordered over the Internet.
So, don't worry about work, family, postman, butcher - they are already non-existing for the subject.
Most humans own an average of 4 cars in a lifetime.
Hey, a good idea for a poll to indicate the age of active/.-ers. Other than that, by this logic and in average, I must be already in my mid-life. Phew, I was under the impression I'm too old already - still enough time for a mid-life crisis.
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Siemens didn't have a say; If you actually read the quotation, ...
If you actually read my post, you'll note that I didn't say "will Siemens allow the presentation" but "will they allow the presentation". I was thinking to the same DHS.
Allow? Why would or should they have a say?
I agree. However, there is a question missing from your list: why did they have a say?
In May, NSS Labs Researcher Dillon Beresford pulled out of a Dallas hacking conference at the last minute when Siemens was unable to fix problems he'd found in the firmware of its S7 programmable logic controller. After consulting with Siemens and the U.S. Department of Homeland security, NSS decided that it was simply too dangerous to go public with its information before a patch could be fully developed.
NSS Labs expects Siemens to issue a patch in the next few weeks, well ahead of the August presentation. "They didn't give any firm timelines," he said. "They said unofficially that they were pretty confident that they'll be able to get their stuff out before then."
Beresford wasn't impressed with that comment. [...]. "Now that they're trying to minimize the impact and do PR damage control, I feel that they're not servicing the public's interest," he said. "I'm not pleased with their response... They didn't provide enough information to the public."
What if Siemens confidence evaporates and, August time, some of these vulns are not yet patched? Will they allow the presentation?
Devices like the S7 do things such as control how fast a turbine spins or open gates of doom.
FTFY
Fuck Google, Fuck Bing. We have the power - Use IT!
The same type of power as the Brownian motion. And THEY are using it by having the appropriate containment cylinders and pistons to guide this motion - of course, in their interest.
(x) Microsoft will not put up with it
(x) Google will not put up with it
Wanna bet they actually will? Most probable, implementing it on their own?
Motivation: both of them want a chunk of "social media" (to the level of desperation of Google conditioning the employee bonuses on social media success) .
After all, a "real friend" needs to now how busy you are to protect your time, Google will provide you with the service and allow you to control the list of real friends. I think they'll even go a step further and tell the "friend" how many of your unread emails are important or just unpaid bills notifications: this is why you have friends, isn't it?
He released trade secretmaterial to the public.
FTFY. Thanks God, one cannot copyright encryption keys.
...who need to reinvent a fucking bell.
Is this a reference to rule 34?
I'm confused. Packages are either left at the door or need a signature. How could faking that you are home convince a delivery guy to leave a package that needed a signature? And if you are not there will he not get in trouble if the package is stolen when you told him to leave it?
In G3 era, there's an app for that.
Guys, why bother with a cell network? We've got smartphones! What we need is a way to get our doorbell online - and make it all accessible from an app.
Mandatory... a door-bell app with single "Like" button to go to Facebook... screw visitors that don't have a Facebook account, you can't expect to engage in social interaction without FB nowadays.
What's that?
10 degrees centigrade (that's Celsius) under the boiling temperature of water?
While the speed presents an inherent limitation, the fact that they made a compiler for it is seriously cool.
Suggestion: wait until they'll implement the -O3 flag in that compiler (10 hours for an execution is not so exciting).
Nah, we need lithium for laptops, smart-phones and Tesla-s.
You're not going to do the students any favors by taking the moral high ground here.
I consider I've done them a favor in not becoming a teacher - even if, by qualification, I should - and switched career about 20 years ago. If I can't fight this stupidity, at least it is not me to damage them. (like in "First, do no harm"; if you can't, then do nothing)
Just a fad really.
To put the things in perspective:
- Science Festival - New York - population: 19 mils+; easy access - attendance in 2010 <200.000
- Woodstock Festival - Bethel, NY - population < 5000; on a dairy farm - attendance in 1969 approx 500.000
Sure. Who else are they going to hire as designated fall guys for when excrement encounters rotary cooling devices?
You're right.
Unfortunately, seems to be valid in a larger context than only CIA/ASIO - I'm seeing quite frequently some managers (at least in IT) doing the same; for the said managers, doesn't seem to mater that the delivery capacity is impacted: the hired persons just need to be cheap, then it's quite easy to use them as screens for the excrements.
I'd personally have no ethical qualms teaching students strategies for maximizing their scores,
I would, if teaching them strategies to maximize their score competes on the time available to teach them what is actually needed (among others, how to think! Especially critical thinking seems to be let aside today's "education"; sometimes I feel this is on purpose, until Hanlon's Razor pops into my mind).
Their IT skills and organization skills seem good. They might make good remote-location medicine nurses or something.
They don't place jails in penal colonies anymore.
Lots tests are based on cramming for the test and lead to people who can pass the test but they are clueless on what the test covers.
The tests are designed to be cost-effective, not insightful.
Take this FA as an example: select people that don't think much and the "security" is so much cheaper. As for the persons that do think (graduates or not)... heck, name them hackers and be done with them, they don't make good consumers.
I think the cheaters probably have a much more rewarding career ahead of them with an organisation such as the CIA or ASIO.
What are you trying to say? Are CIA/ASIO glad with employees without brains?
Of course, if you converse long enough with a person, chances are high that the person also starts to become important for you.
TFS:
created by three million Twitter users over four years
I have a suspicion that the study methodology statistically took care of this, including the temporal stability of a relationship factor. I mean, what's your estimation on the probability to have a large numbers of cases like the one you described?
Importance is very difficult to quantify for any study because it's completely subjective.
Would you waste much time with a person if it wouldn't be important to you? (simply the number of message twittered on a topic may reveals something about the importance).
So subtract 50 for work, 30 for family and 20 for postman/butcher etc.
Let me point you that, in average, the real-world interaction of "a World of warcraft player with an active player group of say 40 people" is mediated by his mum and this happens sporadically during the day - specifically only when she comes to drop, in the basement. the pizza and the energy drinks ordered over the Internet.
So, don't worry about work, family, postman, butcher - they are already non-existing for the subject.
The only thing worms understand, fear, and respect, is superior firepower. Blast their teeth out.
Buddy, that's one action that will drive the price of crysknives and spice through the sky. You sure you want to upset the Guild?
Most humans own an average of 4 cars in a lifetime.
Hey, a good idea for a poll to indicate the age of active /.-ers.
Other than that, by this logic and in average, I must be already in my mid-life. Phew, I was under the impression I'm too old already - still enough time for a mid-life crisis.