Creating a work which is identical to another copyrighted work is only infringing if you copied the latter to get the former.
May be true may be not... but for sure it's irrelevant for the matter at hand: in this case, the copies are obtained from a blue-print/design/etc by interpreting the "construction instructions" (using a 3D printer as an instrument).
Copyright law also allows the copyright holder to force destruction/removal of any physical manifestation of that work.
Within some limits, though. I wouldn't like to be dispatched from this world only because I'm able to reproduce the "Happy birthday" song at any time (Warner says it's copyrighted until 2030).
What's copyrighted is the idea, not the physical manifestation or "input".
Incorrect. What you copyright is the form of an expression.
If the ideas would be copyrightable, we as a society would be in a very big trouble (given that ideas are 5 cents a dozen, the implementation it what matters).
Take as an example the "API is not copyrightable" ruling in "Oracle vs Google over Java API" and try to work out what would be the impact if "it's the idea that matters". Take "social networking" as another example: would you be happy to socialize on MySpace instead of being able to choose what SN you use?
Heck, take the "email in the cloud" idea: would you like to be limited to pick only between "@hotmail.com" email addresses?
What you are somehow right: the protected form of expression is not the same as consumption format. When considering however the "derived works" issue, I don't know how much good or bad arises from this distinction ("Happy birthday" is still copyrighted even when pressed in vinyl, burned on CD/DVD or sung/played at a birthday party by a bunch of friends)
Dozens of posts will be made in this discussion where people will manage to mention that they have well above average spatial reasoning skills.
I know this will happen because of my highly developed spatial reasoning skills - it gives me great insight into human behavior.
Too bad spatial and temporal reasoning skill are not necessarily the same, so I'll take your prediction about the future with a grain of salt. Both of them deal with contextual/integrative reasoning:
* the spatial reasoning is focusing on where in the given context - what instantaneous relation need to be there for something to happen. In the artistic creation area: think painting/sculpture
* the temporal reasoning second one deals with when within the context - what should happen before for something else to happen. In the artistic creation domain: think music and poetry (in some amount even literature, bound as it is to using a "sequence of words"; but still it does rely on the capabilities of the reader to reconstitute the spatial dimension where/when this dimension is important).
This is why studies relying on statistics - this one included - mostly fail to give a full picture. They discover correlations - spatial in their essence, as statistics mostly assume the ergodic hypothesis (a large statistical set obtained by a simultaneous measure of multiple equivalent systems is indistinguishable from a statistical set obtained by repeated measures over time of the same system). By doing so, they mostly fail to offer a causal explanation (which would require an analysis mostly focused on the temporal / sequential dimension)
My guess: one does need at least one kind of contextual reasoning to be creative, having something of both makes someone better able to reach/touch/affect a larger amount of people. In art: think the director of a movie: sequential by nature but also having a "spatial dimension" of the projection and the capability to direct the attention on the important details of the whole or, on the contrary, to depict the ensemble. Artistic dance also need both.
Yes, of course. Distributing a video of a murder and the results of one's stargazing are the same.
By the moral of that time, painting the torture and death by crucifixion or other means, as well as imagery of perpetual torture (they used to call it damnation) was actually considered of high moral value - they didn't have video at that time, but you could see examples of them mostly everywhere (not on a single site). At the same time, the proper interpretation of the results of stargazing was a punishable challenge to the same morals.
Except of the difference of moral values (expected due to the drift in time) , what is conceptual difference between the two prosecutions in the name of "society morals"?
“We found that six degrees actually overstates the number of links between typical pairs of users: While 99.6% of all pairs of users are connected by paths with 5 degrees (6 hops), 92% are connected by only four degrees (5 hops),” the Facebook Data team said. ...
The average distance between all people on the site in 2008 was 5.28 degrees, while now [Nov 2012] it is 4.74.
Maybe some aspects of Downs could be reversed, but as many of the neurological and physiological aspects of the disorder are doubtless developmental, I can't imagine any substantial changes to a person already with the syndrome
How you gonna get page views without incoherent, misinformed rambling?
While this may be true for other classes of readers, I believe the readers of/. would still find interesting the information of "possible collision between two neutron star detected". But maybe I'm wrong in my belief.
You're no fun any more./snark
Even I find myself grumpier and older as the time passes (which is no fun, indeed), I'm not grumbling on this account. Even letting aside the opportunity for me for some cheap karma-whoring, whoever is interested will still find the pertinent information no matter how sensationalistically-inflated the news is reported. So/., keep them coming.
I thought our heavy elements came mostly from the short-lived first generation of hypergiant hydrogen stars going supernova.
Supernova nucleosynthesis is still the main mechanism for creation of elements heavier than Fe. The guys report that they think other type of events may lead to the creation of heavy elements and they believe we already witnessed such an event
TFA/TFS is misleading. The reported discovery:
* is not about gold can be created only by the collision of two stars (the supernova nucleosynthesis is still another channel, very probable the main one)
* is not about gold on Earth being originated in the collision of two start
* is about the collision of a neutron star which, besides producing a gamma-ray burst (due to acceleration of charged particles), have shown an afterglow characteristic to decays of "too neutron rich" nuclei into more stable elements (gold included)
Besides, the authors are not even sure
"We've been looking for a 'smoking gun' to link a short gamma-ray burst with a neutron star collision. The radioactive glow from GRB 130603B may be that smoking gun," said Wen-fai Fong, a graduate student at the CfA and a co-author of the paper.
noone would be entirely off the grid. solar panels wont keep your house running with maximum power during cloudy days or nights... that being said... solar panels CAN decrease the cost of your energy bills by a lot... and this amount of money would easily pay the cost of solar panel installation over a decade or so.
Melbourne/AU - 4.5 kW at peak installed PV. Saves me about $1200-$1350/y in power bills. If I include the money I get back for the power exported to the grid, they pay themselves in 5 years.>/p>
People have always been and will always be afraid of death, and any overt step toward that bleak realization is going to be a social loser no matter what the social benefits.
* groan *
(would this be a reason the Egyptians still have cojones to fight for what they believe in - even against other Egyptians - while "the free and brave Americans" don't move a muscle at the news NSA knows their every shit? I wonder which of the two would be better for their respective society on medium/longer term?)
Now, you are equating a prosecution with a prosecution. Nothing more. When it comes to this shit, Galileo would probably say "Hang the fucker." I say that because almost NO ONE - even in our comparatively liberal society of the modern times - would say this guy is in the right.
There's a difference between being rightfully defiant, and just being a dick.
Are you thick? I'm making a parallel between two prosecution on grounds of "challenging the society morals". I can't see how one is good and the other bad.
You're equating Galileo with this sick fuck. That's funny.
Just in case you did actually miss it and you are not trolling: I'm equating the prosecution of Galileo with the prosecution of this man for reasons of "challenging their society morals". I'm pretty sure the Inquisition at that time adopted the view of Galileo being a sick fuck that worth punishing for the potential damage his public views might have caused to the society.
The burden of proof required on your typical internet message board, much less Slashdot, is pretty low.
You seem to assume a lot. It is up to the readers (including myself) to establish their own threshold for the level of proof.
Or, he could be a sick fuck in it for the lulz.
I dunno.
Even assuming the above is correct:
* did this sick fuck commit murders to fuel his site?
* does anyone have the right to condemn a person on the "potential misuse of the information"?
* even accepting morals into equation (who's morals?)... anyway: should a person be condemned because the society is "too weak in the moral sense"? I mean, what's the conceptual difference between this and prosecuting Galileo because he kept on publicly saying the Earth is moving and endangering the "good faith" of the society of his time?
It has no value whatsoever to shock and delight those deranged enough to view a heinous act.
...
But they did not create freedom of speech to promote sheer depravity.
...
showing a murder for fun.
You seem to imply a certain intent. Can you prove it?
Release windows for free, and we will finally see how it competes.
TFT (the fine title) suggests that they can still charge for windows as long as they keep eating the windows users (or only their bases?) without worry - and this "without worry" is somehow the miraculous key to the solution.
(Are those genes selfish? Because if so, this) may be a classic case of resolving a Braess's paradox by removing a trigger for selfish behaviour.
It has to do with non-linear systems that have many points of equilibrium (Braess's paradox involves another example of the same, except the equilibrium is considered in the Nash sense).
A quotation from the arxiv paper that says what's all about:
For example, a damaged power grid undergoing a large blackout may still have other stable states in which no blackout would occur, but the perturbed system may not be able to reach those states spontaneously. We suggest that many large-scale failures are determined by the convergence of the network to a “bad”
state rather than by the unavailability of “good” states.
The first link is a "journalistic rendering", too scarce in details. The second link is the abstract.
Let's hope the arxiv preprint will be good enough.
Slashdot Mirror
Creating a work which is identical to another copyrighted work is only infringing if you copied the latter to get the former.
May be true may be not... but for sure it's irrelevant for the matter at hand: in this case, the copies are obtained from a blue-print/design/etc by interpreting the "construction instructions" (using a 3D printer as an instrument).
Copyright law also allows the copyright holder to force destruction/removal of any physical manifestation of that work.
Within some limits, though. I wouldn't like to be dispatched from this world only because I'm able to reproduce the "Happy birthday" song at any time (Warner says it's copyrighted until 2030).
What's copyrighted is the idea, not the physical manifestation or "input".
Incorrect. What you copyright is the form of an expression.
If the ideas would be copyrightable, we as a society would be in a very big trouble (given that ideas are 5 cents a dozen, the implementation it what matters).
Take as an example the "API is not copyrightable" ruling in "Oracle vs Google over Java API" and try to work out what would be the impact if "it's the idea that matters".
Take "social networking" as another example: would you be happy to socialize on MySpace instead of being able to choose what SN you use?
Heck, take the "email in the cloud" idea: would you like to be limited to pick only between "@hotmail.com" email addresses?
What you are somehow right: the protected form of expression is not the same as consumption format. When considering however the "derived works" issue, I don't know how much good or bad arises from this distinction ("Happy birthday" is still copyrighted even when pressed in vinyl, burned on CD/DVD or sung/played at a birthday party by a bunch of friends)
I prefer, "some people are trained way beyond their intelligence."
FTFY
I like both printed books and ebooks.
I like printed ebooks as well.
Dozens of posts will be made in this discussion where people will manage to mention that they have well above average spatial reasoning skills.
I know this will happen because of my highly developed spatial reasoning skills - it gives me great insight into human behavior.
Too bad spatial and temporal reasoning skill are not necessarily the same, so I'll take your prediction about the future with a grain of salt. Both of them deal with contextual/integrative reasoning:
* the spatial reasoning is focusing on where in the given context - what instantaneous relation need to be there for something to happen. In the artistic creation area: think painting/sculpture
* the temporal reasoning second one deals with when within the context - what should happen before for something else to happen. In the artistic creation domain: think music and poetry (in some amount even literature, bound as it is to using a "sequence of words"; but still it does rely on the capabilities of the reader to reconstitute the spatial dimension where/when this dimension is important).
This is why studies relying on statistics - this one included - mostly fail to give a full picture. They discover correlations - spatial in their essence, as statistics mostly assume the ergodic hypothesis (a large statistical set obtained by a simultaneous measure of multiple equivalent systems is indistinguishable from a statistical set obtained by repeated measures over time of the same system). By doing so, they mostly fail to offer a causal explanation (which would require an analysis mostly focused on the temporal / sequential dimension)
My guess: one does need at least one kind of contextual reasoning to be creative, having something of both makes someone better able to reach/touch/affect a larger amount of people.
In art: think the director of a movie: sequential by nature but also having a "spatial dimension" of the projection and the capability to direct the attention on the important details of the whole or, on the contrary, to depict the ensemble. Artistic dance also need both.
.
:)
Yeah, I take my chances of cooked lentils over melted plastic.
:) :)
Tell me when you get to the "cooked lentils 3D printing" level.
Yes, of course. Distributing a video of a murder and the results of one's stargazing are the same.
By the moral of that time, painting the torture and death by crucifixion or other means, as well as imagery of perpetual torture (they used to call it damnation) was actually considered of high moral value - they didn't have video at that time, but you could see examples of them mostly everywhere (not on a single site).
At the same time, the proper interpretation of the results of stargazing was a punishable challenge to the same morals.
Except of the difference of moral values (expected due to the drift in time) , what is conceptual difference between the two prosecutions in the name of "society morals"?
“We found that six degrees actually overstates the number of links between typical pairs of users: While 99.6% of all pairs of users are connected by paths with 5 degrees (6 hops), 92% are connected by only four degrees (5 hops),” the Facebook Data team said.
...
The average distance between all people on the site in 2008 was 5.28 degrees, while now [Nov 2012] it is 4.74.
Twitter
Our optimal algorithm finds an average degree of separation of 3.43 between two random Twitter users,
... "hold it the wrong way" wasn't good enough, so they plan now to make a mobile phone case which entirely shield out the radio waves?
Maybe some aspects of Downs could be reversed, but as many of the neurological and physiological aspects of the disorder are doubtless developmental, I can't imagine any substantial changes to a person already with the syndrome
Neuroplasticity indicates there may be hopes.
How you gonna get page views without incoherent, misinformed rambling?
While this may be true for other classes of readers, I believe the readers of /. would still find interesting the information of "possible collision between two neutron star detected".
But maybe I'm wrong in my belief.
You're no fun any more. /snark
Even I find myself grumpier and older as the time passes (which is no fun, indeed), I'm not grumbling on this account. /., keep them coming.
Even letting aside the opportunity for me for some cheap karma-whoring, whoever is interested will still find the pertinent information no matter how sensationalistically-inflated the news is reported. So
I thought our heavy elements came mostly from the short-lived first generation of hypergiant hydrogen stars going supernova.
Supernova nucleosynthesis is still the main mechanism for creation of elements heavier than Fe. The guys report that they think other type of events may lead to the creation of heavy elements and they believe we already witnessed such an event
TFA/TFS is misleading. The reported discovery:
* is not about gold can be created only by the collision of two stars (the supernova nucleosynthesis is still another channel, very probable the main one)
* is not about gold on Earth being originated in the collision of two start
* is about the collision of a neutron star which, besides producing a gamma-ray burst (due to acceleration of charged particles), have shown an afterglow characteristic to decays of "too neutron rich" nuclei into more stable elements (gold included)
Besides, the authors are not even sure
"We've been looking for a 'smoking gun' to link a short gamma-ray burst with a neutron star collision. The radioactive glow from GRB 130603B may be that smoking gun," said Wen-fai Fong, a graduate student at the CfA and a co-author of the paper.
noone would be entirely off the grid. solar panels wont keep your house running with maximum power during cloudy days or nights... that being said... solar panels CAN decrease the cost of your energy bills by a lot... and this amount of money would easily pay the cost of solar panel installation over a decade or so.
Melbourne/AU - 4.5 kW at peak installed PV. Saves me about $1200-$1350/y in power bills. If I include the money I get back for the power exported to the grid, they pay themselves in 5 years.>/p>
The reason for which in US is much more expensive: there aren't enough authorized installers (I can't find that link now) - the cost of installation is roughly twice the price of the installed modules
People have always been and will always be afraid of death, and any overt step toward that bleak realization is going to be a social loser no matter what the social benefits.
* groan *
(would this be a reason the Egyptians still have cojones to fight for what they believe in - even against other Egyptians - while "the free and brave Americans" don't move a muscle at the news NSA knows their every shit? I wonder which of the two would be better for their respective society on medium/longer term?)
Now, you are equating a prosecution with a prosecution. Nothing more. When it comes to this shit, Galileo would probably say "Hang the fucker." I say that because almost NO ONE - even in our comparatively liberal society of the modern times - would say this guy is in the right.
There's a difference between being rightfully defiant, and just being a dick.
Are you thick? I'm making a parallel between two prosecution on grounds of "challenging the society morals". I can't see how one is good and the other bad.
You're equating Galileo with this sick fuck. That's funny.
Just in case you did actually miss it and you are not trolling: I'm equating the prosecution of Galileo with the prosecution of this man for reasons of "challenging their society morals".
I'm pretty sure the Inquisition at that time adopted the view of Galileo being a sick fuck that worth punishing for the potential damage his public views might have caused to the society.
The burden of proof required on your typical internet message board, much less Slashdot, is pretty low.
You seem to assume a lot. It is up to the readers (including myself) to establish their own threshold for the level of proof.
Or, he could be a sick fuck in it for the lulz.
I dunno.
Even assuming the above is correct:
* did this sick fuck commit murders to fuel his site?
* does anyone have the right to condemn a person on the "potential misuse of the information"?
* even accepting morals into equation (who's morals?)... anyway: should a person be condemned because the society is "too weak in the moral sense"? I mean, what's the conceptual difference between this and prosecuting Galileo because he kept on publicly saying the Earth is moving and endangering the "good faith" of the society of his time?
It has no value whatsoever to shock and delight those deranged enough to view a heinous act.
...
But they did not create freedom of speech to promote sheer depravity.
...
showing a murder for fun.
You seem to imply a certain intent. Can you prove it?
Release windows for free, and we will finally see how it competes.
TFT (the fine title) suggests that they can still charge for windows as long as they keep eating the windows users (or only their bases?) without worry - and this "without worry" is somehow the miraculous key to the solution.
vote for the first presidential candidate who promises to rock your world
*crickets*...*crickets*...
(Are those genes selfish? Because if so, this) may be a classic case of resolving a Braess's paradox by removing a trigger for selfish behaviour.
It has to do with non-linear systems that have many points of equilibrium (Braess's paradox involves another example of the same, except the equilibrium is considered in the Nash sense).
A quotation from the arxiv paper that says what's all about:
For example, a damaged power grid undergoing a large blackout may still have other stable states in which no blackout would occur, but the perturbed system may not be able to reach those states spontaneously. We suggest that many large-scale failures are determined by the convergence of the network to a “bad” state rather than by the unavailability of “good” states.
The first link is a "journalistic rendering", too scarce in details. The second link is the abstract.
Let's hope the arxiv preprint will be good enough.
(Are those genes selfish? Because if so, this) may be a classic case of resolving a Braess's paradox by removing a trigger for selfish behaviour.
(now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go to RTFA)