I've done it already a number of times on various projects that have a need for speed. I know of what I speak which is why I can say it with certainty.
[meta]How the heck can the parent comment be flame bait? You have a posting about a "new" anti-sql approach that has been done N times before where N is a very large number being passed off as "new" and then you don't like a comment that point that out? WTF? It's not flamebait, it's a dissident's comment. I most certainly support their efforts to promote anti-sql agendas. I was merely pointing out that it's been done before. Oh, and I use Relational Databases and SQL all the time. I've also written object to relational mapping layers that have actually worked with transactions in memory! So I know of what I speak, which I doubt of the moderators as they are clearly blind. In fact why can't we see who moderated? Why can't we see all the ratings for a post? If someone moderates a post up as interesting why can't we see that too? The moderation system here at slashdot sucks big time for it's highly denigrating to those of us who attempt to share our hard earned wisdom. Sigh.[/meta]
Dah! Everyone with any technical skills has known for many decades that relational database are junk. Sure they do a particular job but then so does a swiss army knife but you'd not use it to cut a forest down you'd get a proper volume tool and nothing beats object databases with a simple file structure. Flat files are great too however they tend to require extra parsing slowing things down. You can roll your own object database system easily even with full on transactions and concurrency support in under a man month. Death to Relational Databases.
No? That's good considering how meandering most bike riders actually are. Besides a laser powerful enough to etch the lane in pavement or concrete would likely slice off your legs. The one benefit is that you'd not need to have an external power source as the bike could have a generator installed. Think of how much fat you could burn in no time! What's that smell?
Burn more calories than you consume! Exercise to burn calories. Eat less to avoid needing to burn those calories. My doctor ordered me to do whatever I need to to lose 1 lb per day, the safe medical limit.
Get a treadmill at your desk and walk on it all day while working.
Work less hours and exercise.
Or say heck with it all and enjoy life as a hedonist and embrace being fat, everyone else is so join the club!
The Evil Ant Overlords have positioned themselves to strike in a similar manner to the way that the aliens in Independence Day 4 did. Note that it's July 1st with the strike coming July 4th, the traditional day for alien attacks due to the large demographic in the USA being drunk. Run for the hills... oh, they are full of ants... don't run for the hills... run for the city... oh, they are full of ants.... sigh.... raid! raid! raid! run to Wallmart and buy all the Raid!!!
Formerly a "Constitutional Monarchy"... That is the pathetic history that some want to hang on to for no valid reasons.
Currently it's supposed to be a Parliamentary Democracy ruled by the Mob Majority with a Bunch of Words aka a Constitution that is supposed to protect the people within it's borders from the draconian control and whims of the members of the Cult of Government and the nasty majority itself.
However, of late it's headed to a fascist state due to the insane notion that everyone must obey every frigging law they make no matter what. It just isn't going to happen as we are all freely born human beings in this universe and have free choice including the free choice to disobey our fellow human beings who are so deluded as to think that they have some right to dictate to us how to behave and what to do and what not to do in our lives.
Supposedly Canada is a liberal democracy... clearly the powers that be think differently... Sieg Heil Harper and the Queen! The brand of fascism that is sweeping Canada is spooky for sure.
My parents and grand parents didn't fight off the Nazi's to have the likes of the new Canadian fascism take hold.
I'm sorry to tell the government boobs but yes we Canadians don't like them interfering with our private lives or spying on us.
Take your delusion of government power and shove it up your where the sun don't shine.
Peter Van Loan, the new Canadian Public Safety minister can suck on my big fat ___.
It's assholes like Peter Van Loan that give government a bad name and make the entire notion of government an idea whose time has past into the dust bin of history.
I guess I'll be having a knock on the door in the middle of the night tonight and be taken away because I expressed the view that governments are simply groups of power grubbing nobs who don't have anything better to do with their time than attempt to control the minutia of people's lives. Come through my door without permission and I have a surprise waiting government brown shirts.
Yikes you mean you can record a show off of tv and watch it at a different location? Wow what an innovation... oh, wait, I used to do that with Video Tape (VHS) all the time... time shifting shows too... location shifting them is no different...
Before you know it you brain cells will have to pay a fee for SEEING a show. Oh wait, that's known as a movie theater...
Before you know it you'll have to pay a fee every time you REMEMBER a show you saw on TV. Now that's scary.
[META]How about when you say an obvious META comment about the prior comment is "off topic" you also mark the comment that it's in response to (eg the parent) as off topic too! Otherwise you're not being fair. This just highlights that there are so many issues of lack of fairness with the slashdot comment system that it's essentially junk and moderated posts are essentially meaningless indicators of MOB MENTALITY ONLY.[/META]
What are you talking about flame baiting spazamaniac dude? I don't earn a penny from the ads here at slashdot... you're delusional dude. In fact if anything spending time on these posts today COST me money.
Ironically the Slashdot quote at the bottom of the page is "The computer should be doing the hard work. That's what it's paid to do, after all. -- Larry Wall in ".
Larry is right, the computer should be doing the hard work which is a primary reason that the language syntax should be simple rather than hacker complex like Larry Wall's PERL. He indites himself and PERL!!!
Ah, not I don't lose as I didn't run a spell checker for TYPOs anonymous coward. I simply (if slashdot wasn't a hack) would publish a revision using the design principle of iterative versions that would have the correct spelling.
As Powell Janulus, a man who knew 80+ human languages, would say "mistakes are irrelevant if you communicate your meaning" and "those that only focus on your errors are the ones who don't succeed or they are just being a pain in he ass for their own sake."
The question is whether or not your committed to the "cult of the cryptic" as hackers are by definition since, as some have said, a hacker is someone who enjoys hacking through complexities to get a make a path of understanding.
Sure in computing we need to understand complex systems but it's one thing to understand a complex system and quite another to be "devoted" to keeping it cryptic as most hackers do.
As a person committed to keeping systems as simple as possible to get the job done I'm committed to simplicity and elegance of solutions rather than ugly hacked by an axe.
A home built by a hacker would have randomly hacked lengths of wood for the walls of uneven thickness stuck together by PERL Glue that they've sniffed too much over the years. Not many homes are designed that way for good reason and yet no one even questions that design is required for building a proper home.
A home built by a designer uses measured boards of wood and nails and screws and special connectors in earthquake zones not glue.
A hacker puts in power outlets into one basement renovation layered on top of many others ending up with over 17 power outlets most illegal and highly dangerous fire hazards. Yes, this mess was discovered in a person's real home on the show Holms on Homes when they tore apart a basement to properly renovate it properly with a principle called DESIGN.
Design wins in home and building construction for a reason. It simply works better than hacking.
Design wins over hacking when it comes to philosophy and understanding of Nature. With design and the scientific method we end up with the Theory of Evolution, and Quantum Physics and General and Special Relativity. With hacks we end up with - ick run for the hills - religion and cults and the GPL madness not to mention Intelligent Design which has neither intelligence nor design (they just hijacked the word design because they know how well successful it is in man made pursuits).
So, hack all you want, but if you want to be a REAL PROGRAMMER choose the simplicity and rigorous methods of design!
Yeah, glue is used to hold wood together till you nail it together with nails to hold it in place permanently.
PERL might be temporary glue but it's an icky solution that fails any design requirements for reliability, stability, or understandability.
Sure PERL is used by hackers, but so what? That doesn't mean it SHOULD be used for solutions. In fact PERL itself is a horrific hack. It takes a team of hackers with chainsaws to slice a path of understanding through it's unnecessary complex syntax where the rule seems to be if it's not in the library add it with NEW syntax to make the language more complex. See this excellent article on PERL's syntax complexity here: Simplicity and Power Comes from the Smalltalk Syntax. It requires a complex "PERL Periodic Table of the Operators" to comprehend the PERL syntax.
When compared to a powerful language like Smalltalk that is designed rather than hacked it's clear that the extra brain power used to comprehend the bizarre overly complex syntax of PERL is just a waste of precious life energy and time.
It's clear that PERL is a language with an extremely heavy syntax burden that doesn't give it any advantages unless your trying to win a cryptic programming contest. But then that is what hackers are trying to do in their heads when they work. I know, I've had the misfortune of working with too many PERL programmers. Shivers.
PERL is for hackers just like GPL is for nested acronym freaks who have nothing better to do than solve so duku puzzles when they should be getting real work done on projects.
While no programming language is perfect it makes no sense to burden the human mind with the nonsensical and unnecessary burden of the extra syntax layers for PERL. Heck even a EBNF is very unlikely for the darn thing.
So ok go ahead mr hacker and use PERL as your glue but watch out as it's addictive when you sniff it for too long. Drug addicts don't make good designers mr perl hacker.;-)
[META]And you moderators moderate my rational comments down, what about the parent to this one eh? Moderate it down to zero as flame bait please![/META]
Hackers are people who can't think long enough to do the programming job right. They usually have ADD or some other nasty flaw in their character that prevents them from doing the job properly and in a readable fashion.
Ditto FreonTrip. The article asked for my opinion and I gave it dude thus it's not a FLAME whereas your comment didn't address any fine points about why hackers are not good for the software industry in the long run.
How can that possibly be flamebait when the frigging posting is asking about how hackers are damaging the software industry!!!! The POSTING ITSELF IS FLAMEBAIT YOU FOOLS!!!
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I've done it already a number of times on various projects that have a need for speed. I know of what I speak which is why I can say it with certainty.
[meta]How the heck can the parent comment be flame bait? You have a posting about a "new" anti-sql approach that has been done N times before where N is a very large number being passed off as "new" and then you don't like a comment that point that out? WTF? It's not flamebait, it's a dissident's comment. I most certainly support their efforts to promote anti-sql agendas. I was merely pointing out that it's been done before. Oh, and I use Relational Databases and SQL all the time. I've also written object to relational mapping layers that have actually worked with transactions in memory! So I know of what I speak, which I doubt of the moderators as they are clearly blind. In fact why can't we see who moderated? Why can't we see all the ratings for a post? If someone moderates a post up as interesting why can't we see that too? The moderation system here at slashdot sucks big time for it's highly denigrating to those of us who attempt to share our hard earned wisdom. Sigh.[/meta]
Dah! Everyone with any technical skills has known for many decades that relational database are junk. Sure they do a particular job but then so does a swiss army knife but you'd not use it to cut a forest down you'd get a proper volume tool and nothing beats object databases with a simple file structure. Flat files are great too however they tend to require extra parsing slowing things down. You can roll your own object database system easily even with full on transactions and concurrency support in under a man month. Death to Relational Databases.
No? That's good considering how meandering most bike riders actually are. Besides a laser powerful enough to etch the lane in pavement or concrete would likely slice off your legs. The one benefit is that you'd not need to have an external power source as the bike could have a generator installed. Think of how much fat you could burn in no time! What's that smell?
Burn more calories than you consume! Exercise to burn calories. Eat less to avoid needing to burn those calories. My doctor ordered me to do whatever I need to to lose 1 lb per day, the safe medical limit.
Get a treadmill at your desk and walk on it all day while working.
Work less hours and exercise.
Or say heck with it all and enjoy life as a hedonist and embrace being fat, everyone else is so join the club!
The Evil Ant Overlords have positioned themselves to strike in a similar manner to the way that the aliens in Independence Day 4 did. Note that it's July 1st with the strike coming July 4th, the traditional day for alien attacks due to the large demographic in the USA being drunk. Run for the hills... oh, they are full of ants... don't run for the hills... run for the city... oh, they are full of ants.... sigh.... raid! raid! raid! run to Wallmart and buy all the Raid!!!
Eh? "I.T.G. in the H.O.U.S.E."
Never heard it before. Sorry I'm not in your sub CULT. What does that mean?
Formerly a "Constitutional Monarchy"... That is the pathetic history that some want to hang on to for no valid reasons.
Currently it's supposed to be a Parliamentary Democracy ruled by the Mob Majority with a Bunch of Words aka a Constitution that is supposed to protect the people within it's borders from the draconian control and whims of the members of the Cult of Government and the nasty majority itself.
However, of late it's headed to a fascist state due to the insane notion that everyone must obey every frigging law they make no matter what. It just isn't going to happen as we are all freely born human beings in this universe and have free choice including the free choice to disobey our fellow human beings who are so deluded as to think that they have some right to dictate to us how to behave and what to do and what not to do in our lives.
Supposedly Canada is a liberal democracy... clearly the powers that be think differently... Sieg Heil Harper and the Queen! The brand of fascism that is sweeping Canada is spooky for sure.
My parents and grand parents didn't fight off the Nazi's to have the likes of the new Canadian fascism take hold.
I'm sorry to tell the government boobs but yes we Canadians don't like them interfering with our private lives or spying on us.
Take your delusion of government power and shove it up your where the sun don't shine.
Peter Van Loan, the new Canadian Public Safety minister can suck on my big fat ___.
It's assholes like Peter Van Loan that give government a bad name and make the entire notion of government an idea whose time has past into the dust bin of history.
I guess I'll be having a knock on the door in the middle of the night tonight and be taken away because I expressed the view that governments are simply groups of power grubbing nobs who don't have anything better to do with their time than attempt to control the minutia of people's lives. Come through my door without permission and I have a surprise waiting government brown shirts.
Yikes you mean you can record a show off of tv and watch it at a different location? Wow what an innovation... oh, wait, I used to do that with Video Tape (VHS) all the time... time shifting shows too... location shifting them is no different...
Before you know it you brain cells will have to pay a fee for SEEING a show. Oh wait, that's known as a movie theater...
Before you know it you'll have to pay a fee every time you REMEMBER a show you saw on TV. Now that's scary.
[META]How about when you say an obvious META comment about the prior comment is "off topic" you also mark the comment that it's in response to (eg the parent) as off topic too! Otherwise you're not being fair. This just highlights that there are so many issues of lack of fairness with the slashdot comment system that it's essentially junk and moderated posts are essentially meaningless indicators of MOB MENTALITY ONLY.[/META]
What are you talking about flame baiting spazamaniac dude? I don't earn a penny from the ads here at slashdot... you're delusional dude. In fact if anything spending time on these posts today COST me money.
Ironically the Slashdot quote at the bottom of the page is "The computer should be doing the hard work. That's what it's paid to do, after all. -- Larry Wall in ".
Larry is right, the computer should be doing the hard work which is a primary reason that the language syntax should be simple rather than hacker complex like Larry Wall's PERL. He indites himself and PERL!!!
Actually it's worked out quite nicely for me including financially with more money than you can imagine spazing maniacally dude.
But again you miss the point.
Complex hacked language = PERL = extremely complex syntax.
The creators of PERL consistently choose to implement features in SYNTAX instead of in a library as languages like Smalltalk do.
Simple but not simplistic, Elegant, Beautiful = Smalltalk = Uniform Comprehensible Syntax.
So enjoy wasting your brain power comprehending PERL.
I'd rather be building real powerful applications in a language with Full on Lambda Block Closures.
Ah, not I don't lose as I didn't run a spell checker for TYPOs anonymous coward. I simply (if slashdot wasn't a hack) would publish a revision using the design principle of iterative versions that would have the correct spelling.
As Powell Janulus, a man who knew 80+ human languages, would say "mistakes are irrelevant if you communicate your meaning" and "those that only focus on your errors are the ones who don't succeed or they are just being a pain in he ass for their own sake."
That hacker ethic propaganda is a blatant attempt to rewrite history by the Cult of Hackers. The fact is that hacking is a poor substitute to design.
The question is whether or not your committed to the "cult of the cryptic" as hackers are by definition since, as some have said, a hacker is someone who enjoys hacking through complexities to get a make a path of understanding.
Sure in computing we need to understand complex systems but it's one thing to understand a complex system and quite another to be "devoted" to keeping it cryptic as most hackers do.
As a person committed to keeping systems as simple as possible to get the job done I'm committed to simplicity and elegance of solutions rather than ugly hacked by an axe.
A home built by a hacker would have randomly hacked lengths of wood for the walls of uneven thickness stuck together by PERL Glue that they've sniffed too much over the years. Not many homes are designed that way for good reason and yet no one even questions that design is required for building a proper home.
A home built by a designer uses measured boards of wood and nails and screws and special connectors in earthquake zones not glue.
A hacker puts in power outlets into one basement renovation layered on top of many others ending up with over 17 power outlets most illegal and highly dangerous fire hazards. Yes, this mess was discovered in a person's real home on the show Holms on Homes when they tore apart a basement to properly renovate it properly with a principle called DESIGN.
Design wins in home and building construction for a reason. It simply works better than hacking.
Design wins over hacking when it comes to philosophy and understanding of Nature. With design and the scientific method we end up with the Theory of Evolution, and Quantum Physics and General and Special Relativity. With hacks we end up with - ick run for the hills - religion and cults and the GPL madness not to mention Intelligent Design which has neither intelligence nor design (they just hijacked the word design because they know how well successful it is in man made pursuits).
So, hack all you want, but if you want to be a REAL PROGRAMMER choose the simplicity and rigorous methods of design!
May you hack no more.
Utter nonsense.
Yeah, glue is used to hold wood together till you nail it together with nails to hold it in place permanently.
PERL might be temporary glue but it's an icky solution that fails any design requirements for reliability, stability, or understandability.
Sure PERL is used by hackers, but so what? That doesn't mean it SHOULD be used for solutions. In fact PERL itself is a horrific hack. It takes a team of hackers with chainsaws to slice a path of understanding through it's unnecessary complex syntax where the rule seems to be if it's not in the library add it with NEW syntax to make the language more complex. See this excellent article on PERL's syntax complexity here: Simplicity and Power Comes from the Smalltalk Syntax. It requires a complex "PERL Periodic Table of the Operators" to comprehend the PERL syntax.
When compared to a powerful language like Smalltalk that is designed rather than hacked it's clear that the extra brain power used to comprehend the bizarre overly complex syntax of PERL is just a waste of precious life energy and time.
It's clear that PERL is a language with an extremely heavy syntax burden that doesn't give it any advantages unless your trying to win a cryptic programming contest. But then that is what hackers are trying to do in their heads when they work. I know, I've had the misfortune of working with too many PERL programmers. Shivers.
PERL is for hackers just like GPL is for nested acronym freaks who have nothing better to do than solve so duku puzzles when they should be getting real work done on projects.
While no programming language is perfect it makes no sense to burden the human mind with the nonsensical and unnecessary burden of the extra syntax layers for PERL. Heck even a EBNF is very unlikely for the darn thing.
So ok go ahead mr hacker and use PERL as your glue but watch out as it's addictive when you sniff it for too long. Drug addicts don't make good designers mr perl hacker. ;-)
[META]And you moderators moderate my rational comments down, what about the parent to this one eh? Moderate it down to zero as flame bait please![/META]
Hackers are people who can't think long enough to do the programming job right. They usually have ADD or some other nasty flaw in their character that prevents them from doing the job properly and in a readable fashion.
Ditto FreonTrip. The article asked for my opinion and I gave it dude thus it's not a FLAME whereas your comment didn't address any fine points about why hackers are not good for the software industry in the long run.
Actually it's those with the hacker ethic that cheat their way through life with "hacks" rather than doing things right and professional.
Hacker:
* someone who plays golf poorly.
* a programmer who breaks into computer systems in order to steal or change or destroy information as a form of cyber-terrorism.
* a person who hacks a tree down with an axe.
* a person with too much time on their hands.
* someone who can't design software.
What you perceive to be spelling errors were intentional typos.
How can that possibly be flamebait when the frigging posting is asking about how hackers are damaging the software industry!!!! The POSTING ITSELF IS FLAMEBAIT YOU FOOLS!!!
Hackers are those that take an axe and hack down a tree creating a mess in the process including casualties that offend the beauty of solutions.
Designers go about it systematically applying methods that bring the tree down without a mess or casualties.
Things like PERL are deeply disturbing to anyone with a sense of design.
Hacks usually have to be replaced when discovered in production systems that value scaling and reliability.
Hacks have saved me and I always replace them when possible since they are just so offensive and putrid that shivers evoke pain in my spine.
Design brings the best of software techniques to bear upon problems.
Software needs work. Iterative improvement. Hacks might be in there but in time they tend to get removed with designed systems or redesigned systems.
Hackers are not really programmers as they are to enamored with their hacking skills.
There is nothing redeeming about hacking, all of it is from the dark side.