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Ant Mega-Colony Covers the World

Deag writes "A mega colony of one family of ants has spread all over the world. Previous mega colonies in California, Europe and Japan have been shown to be in fact one global colony. Ants from the smaller super-colonies were always aggressive to one another. So ants from the west coast of Japan fought their rivals from Kobe, while ants from the European super-colony didn't get on with those from the Iberian colony. But whenever ants from the main European and Californian super-colonies and those from the largest colony in Japan came into contact, they acted as if they were old friends."

359 comments

  1. Obligatory quote by jareds · · Score: 5, Funny

    One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.

    Well, this reporter was...possibly a little hasty earlier and would like to...reaffirm his allegiance to this country and its human president. May not be perfect, but it's still the best government we have. For now.

    1. Re:Obligatory quote by RuBLed · · Score: 4, Funny

      McGyver is still alive, this would not happen.

    2. Re:Obligatory quote by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      I find a good way to stop them from coming in from under a door is to stick a piece of duct tape across the bottom so that it just touches the floor. The overlords stick to it and won't establish a trail going underneath, which is handy when you're not in a welcoming mood.

    3. Re:Obligatory quote by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 5, Informative

      That episode was a total rip-off/tribute/remake of the short story Leningen versus the Ants by Carl Stephenson.
      This story was in my elementary school reading book the same year that episode originally aired.

      http://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

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    4. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Overlords?

    5. Re:Obligatory quote by oGMo · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know what's awesome about slashdot? That I could laugh at this post ... before I clicked the story.

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    6. Re:Obligatory quote by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hmmm, I wonder if this would work for liberals?

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    7. Re:Obligatory quote by Slur · · Score: 1

      And this post is supposed to be ... the bait?

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    8. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod up!

    9. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "The overlords stick to it"

      I have no idea why, but this made me spit beer everywhere.

    10. Re:Obligatory quote by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no. Your post was supposed to be the FLAME. His was the bait.

    11. Re:Obligatory quote by kmarple1 · · Score: 1

      That episode was a total rip-off/tribute/remake of the short story Leningen versus the Ants by Carl Stephenson. This story was in my elementary school reading book the same year that episode originally aired.

      http://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

      That's a good story. It also made it into the collection one of my high school English classes used.

    12. Re:Obligatory quote by ari_j · · Score: 1, Funny

      You're wrong. After the fire, after all the rain, I will be the flame.

    13. Re:Obligatory quote by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Funny

      What is this "story" that you speak of?

      I, for one, have never seen one...

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    14. Re:Obligatory quote by therufus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, that was a cheap trick...

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    15. Re:Obligatory quote by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      That story freaked me out as a kid. It was like a 50's atomic horror movie come to life. I had a whole new respect for ants and frontiersmen from that day.

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    16. Re:Obligatory quote by mibus · · Score: 1

      Well... are they African or European ants?

      What do you mean "it turns out they're the same thing"?!?

    17. Re:Obligatory quote by mgblst · · Score: 4, Funny

      Duct tape, works for everything....except for fixing ducts.

    18. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ant mega-colony is the ultimate socialist society (with a monarch figurehead). Anyone else notice little antennae sprouting from Obama's head?

    19. Re:Obligatory quote by bronney · · Score: 4, Funny

      My trick is leaving a strip of bacon next to my neighbor's door. Done.

    20. Re:Obligatory quote by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well... are they African or European ants?

      More importantly, what is the land-speed velocity of an unladen ant?

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    21. Re:Obligatory quote by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You'll think I'm kidding, but I'm not: chalk a thick blue line across your dooropening. Ants don't like blue, it's something with their sensory system, and they are very hesitant to cross a blue area.

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    22. Re:Obligatory quote by Canazza · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There was an Arthur C Clarke short story entitled "Retreat from Earth" which involved a hostile Alien being discovering that a giant termite colony was being controlled by an alien machine in the core of the Earth dedicated to safeguarding humanity, and in the end, single handedly repels the invasion.

      Perhaps Arthur C Clarke was almost right, except it's Ants, not Termites :)

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    23. Re:Obligatory quote by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hmmm, I wonder if this would work for liberals?

      It works for Jehovahs Witnesses. Just replace the duct tape with high-strength contact adhesive. Its worth it to see the look of surprise and delight when you say "do come in" change to surprise then panic when they realise they can't. I then just shut the door and say "ah well, maybe another time".

    24. Re:Obligatory quote by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      except for fixing ducts

      Pretty sure you mean "ducks"

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    25. Re:Obligatory quote by Off+the+Rails · · Score: 1

      Overlords?

      You must be new here.

    26. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love you, you made me laugh!

    27. Re:Obligatory quote by rich_r · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure you mean ducts. Duct tape being the tape commonnly mis-heard as duck tape. Until someone capitalised on this and started branding crap gaffer tape as 'duck tape'

    28. Re:Obligatory quote by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      You can't fix a duck with ducts!

      Related to this, you can't fix a baby with central heatingSFW but likely to get you uninvited to the christmas party, requires sound.

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    29. Re:Obligatory quote by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I might be able to explain that... Water is blue

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    30. Re:Obligatory quote by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Liberals can sneak in under doors and windows, through vents, or through any opening to the outside. You need to cover all cracks and openings with duct tape at least until there is no airflow or any ventilation to the outside so they can't get in and take your guns away.

    31. Re:Obligatory quote by vidarh · · Score: 1

      According to usenet it works for hamsters, though.

    32. Re:Obligatory quote by bostei2008 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

      Just not funny anymore.

      Almost as bad as using "42" as an answer to a question thinking this makes you a geek...

    33. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You didn't use enough duct tape.

      If it moves and it's not supposed to: Duct tape
      If it doesn't move and it's supposed to: WD40

    34. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't think it's the blue (but I don't know that), however it's definitely the chalk. Find an ant on a white wall, and get a nice thick chalk line around him. Just regular old white chalk. But the heavier and thicker the better. Anyway, the ant is trapped. He'll play the roll of the pong ball for a while and then drop to the floor, only to climb back up your wall.

    35. Re:Obligatory quote by MrEkted · · Score: 5, Informative

      I disagree. Here's my citation:
      "Is it Duct or Duck? We donâ(TM)t want you to be confused, so we will explain. The first name for Duct Tape was DUCK. During World War II the U.S. Military needed a waterproof tape to keep the moisture out of ammunition cases. So, they enlisted the Johnson and Johnson Permacel Division to manufacture the tape. Because it was waterproof, everyone referred to it as âoeduckâ tape (like water off a duckâ(TM)s back). Military personnel discovered that the tape was good for lots more than keeping out water. They used it for Jeep repair, fixing stuff on their guns, strapping equipment to their clothing... the list is endless.

      After the War, the housing industry was booming and someone discovered that the tape was great for joining the heating and air conditioning duct work. So, the color was changed from army green to the silvery color we are familiar with today and people started to refer to it as âoeduct tape*.â Therefore, either name is appropriate."

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      "The original use was to keep moisture out of the ammunition cases. Because it was waterproof, people referred to the tape as "Duck Tape." Also, the tape was made using cotton duck - similar to what was used in their cloth medical tapes. Military personnel quickly discovered that the tape was very versatile and used it to fix their guns, jeeps, aircraft, etc. After the war, the tape was used in the booming housing industry to connect heating and air conditioning duct work together.

      Soon, the color was changed from Army green to silver to match the ductwork and people started to refer to duck tape as "Duct Tape." Things changed during the 1970s, when the partners at Manco, Inc. placed rolls of duct tape in shrink wrap, making it easier for retailers to stack the sticky rolls. Different grades and colors of duct tape werenÂt far behind. Soon, duct tape became the most versatile tool in the household. "

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    36. Re:Obligatory quote by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      Oh, so you're the one! Well thanks for all the bacon, jackass!

    37. Re:Obligatory quote by elfprince13 · · Score: 0

      I'm more worried about THEM then silly little colonies like this one.

    38. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bonehead, a "monarch figurehead" for an ant mega-colony would mean ants walking from California to Japan after they hatch.

    39. Re:Obligatory quote by master5o1 · · Score: 1
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    40. Re:Obligatory quote by master5o1 · · Score: 1

      Can they carry coconuts?

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    41. Re:Obligatory quote by CFD339 · · Score: 1

      Fantastic post. I also remember that story from an elementary school reading book but didn't recall the title or author. I remember thinking the same thing when that episode aired.

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    42. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soon we'll all be Human Slaves, In an Insect nation

    43. Re:Obligatory quote by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      The ant on my blue mousepad right now would disagree with you. What's more likely:
       
      I have some hardcore environmental friends, and they swear the best anti-ant stuff is baby powder. The small powder does something to bind up or block the ants' scent trail. So even if the explorers come into your house, they either can't find their way back home, or if they do, they can't return bringing the rest of the colony with them.
       
      I'd imagine that the blue chalk does the same thing, being a line of fine powder. Have you tried white chalk in the same concentration?

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    44. Re:Obligatory quote by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Doubtful. Water is clear in the amounts needed to kill an ant. Plus there are a lot of ants small enough to walk on water. When 1" of clear water is enough to drown you, I have a hard time believing that you'd evolve to fear quantities of water large enough to look blue.

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    45. Re:Obligatory quote by pnuema · · Score: 1

      When your only tool is duct tape, you'll try it for everything. Too bad it didn't work on Iraq or the economy. But, hey, you could get lucky this time.

    46. Re:Obligatory quote by lxs · · Score: 2, Funny

      Edit war!!!

    47. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh, but Ray Bradbury had an episode of the martian chronicles that was likely more accurate. The story went:

      Martian's invaded. They were met with brass bands, keys to the city, and complaints that there had not been enough warning to set up ticker tape parades. The martians took their welcome as a surrender.

      Whenever the martians attempted to patrol a city, they were nearly dragged into bars where everyone bought them food and drinks and the women attempted to seduce them.

      After all discipline in the martian ranks was gone, the Hollywood producers descended on the officers in an attempt to buy the rights to their stories. The one martian officer that saw it coming, managed to retreat alone to mars with a warning to never attempt to invade the earth again.

    48. Re:Obligatory quote by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      An ant will see a 1" width water stream as a fast flowing river would be to us.

      Given that water surface is reflective, and there is a large quantity of blue above them, could this be an alternative?

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    49. Re:Obligatory quote by master5o1 · · Score: 1

      DO NOT WANT

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    50. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dah! In Mexico, they eat ants instead of pop corn. I strongly suggest to breed Mexicans!
      And we also could possibly teach Chinese to eat them, they probably do anyway, but that would probably exhaust global hunger and stop ant incoming!

    51. Re:Obligatory quote by xonial · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FWIW, it works for everything...except fixing *heating* ducts. The dryness + the heat goes right through the glue, rendering the tape useless. Use as much of it as you want on AC ducts though.

    52. Re:Obligatory quote by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know, if you replaced "Jehovahs Witnesses" and "they can't" with "anyone who comes to my house" and "I'm going to harvest their organs for sale on the Mexican black market" in that paragraph, I would be able to relate to it completely.

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    53. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those sources are copies of one another. Not useful :p

    54. Re:Obligatory quote by exi1ed0ne · · Score: 4, Informative
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    55. Re:Obligatory quote by hesiod · · Score: 1

      It's probably because chalk is a desiccant, which is used to keep small insects, including ants, out of your home.

    56. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      water is actually a clear liquid. The typical blue comes from light diffusion. Murky water from life or mud in the water.

    57. Re:Obligatory quote by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      That's funny. Funny AND true. I remember when the episode came out. For some reason my mom had to miss that episode, and when I started to describe it to her she stopped me and said, "He uses water and then fire and then water, right? I've read that!"

      Being a preteen of course I said, "Not just fire! It was a flamethrower!" or something to that effect, but she was right. I was pretty impressed that she knew what McGyver would do without seeing the episode.

    58. Re:Obligatory quote by idigitallDotCom · · Score: 1

      sounds a bit like humans....

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    59. Re:Obligatory quote by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That only stops the first few. Then the others waltz past their stuck brethren, using them as a barrier against the tape.

    60. Re:Obligatory quote by kjllmn · · Score: 1

      It's even more efficient if you make that line a continuous one turning now and then; that is, a pentagram. They HATE pentagrams.

    61. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and think how nice our lawns will look...

    62. Re:Obligatory quote by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nope. It makes you geek when you answer "42" to an unknown question.

    63. Re:Obligatory quote by Loko+Draucarn · · Score: 2, Informative

      You get enough (coconut.weight / (ant.weight * )(50 + ant_comfort_factor) ), and I'd imagine yes, ants can carry coconuts.

      The only real issues are where they'd grip it, and how to evenly balance the load.

    64. Re:Obligatory quote by Loko+Draucarn · · Score: 1

      ... dangit. extra right parenthesis.

      formula should be (coconut.weight / (ant.weight * (50 + ant_comfort_factor) )

    65. Re:Obligatory quote by jareds · · Score: 1

      Dude, 90% of the humor is the fact that this overused quote actually applies (or comes as close to applying as it ever will) with its original referent, rather than "I, for one, welcome our new hamster overlords" or whatever. Hell, the BBC headline was "Ant mega-colony takes over world." If some religious cult built a computer to determine the answer to a philosophical question, HHGTTG jokes would be kind of funny in reference to such a story (although that's not the best example on my part because more applicable and less overused would be a reference to the stars, one by one, winking out).

    66. Re:Obligatory quote by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      My guess is it's the humors combination of thinking that ants can or will be an overlord, and how they will be easily defeated by something as simple as some duct tape on a door.

      Again, is that ironic or just funny?

      Sounds like the plot of a M Night Shammalamadingdong movie.

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    67. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not the blue, it's the chalk, esp. if it's 'real' chalk made up of diatoms, not colored plaster.
      You can accomplish the same thing with diatamacious earth, it acts as a fairly non-toxic insectiside. Ground cinamon makes a fairly decent repelent.

    68. Re:Obligatory quote by Rasperin · · Score: 1

      Thank you for posting that link, I just sat down and read it and I must say "it was quite a great story".

      Thanks!

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    69. Re:Obligatory quote by kosibar · · Score: 1

      If by "extra" you meant "just the right number but in the wrong place".

      (coconut.weight / (ant.weight * (50 + ant_comfort_factor) ) )

      That looks better.

    70. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My dentist colleagues, and I, are looking for people like you to help us with some new experiments.

      We are looking for volunteers, and, we are sure that you would be an almost perfect candidate. Would you like to help us out?

      It will only take a few moments of your time, and you will have your choice of which experimental procedure you want to participate.

      The first experiment studies the effects of .45 caliber firearms on human teeth.

      The second experiment will try to determine (on average), what condition any remaining teeth are likely to be in after being fed into a wood chipper.

      We will gladly supply airfare to get you here, as well as free room and board, for the duration of the experiments.

    71. Re:Obligatory quote by somersault · · Score: 1

      Actually, according to Wikipedia (emphasis mine):

      Liquid water's intrinsic natural color may be demonstrated by looking at a white light source through a long pipe, filled with purified water, that is closed at both ends with a transparent window. The light turquoise blue color is caused by weak absorption in the red part of the visible spectrum

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    72. Re:Obligatory quote by VoiceOfDoom · · Score: 1

      Ants don't like blue

      Citation needed!!!

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    73. Re:Obligatory quote by ChefInnocent · · Score: 1

      You can too fix a duck with ducts. Heat the duct as you would a wok, and throw the diced duck in with the vegis.

    74. Re:Obligatory quote by Alcoholist · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, conservatives just have the goons kick the door in to make sure your aren't doing anything un-American.

      Oh snap! That sounded like flamebait.

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    75. Re:Obligatory quote by Bugs42 · · Score: 1
      Here, I'll highlight the reason for you:

      I have no idea why, but this made me spit beer everywhere.

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    76. Re:Obligatory quote by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    77. Re:Obligatory quote by catmistake · · Score: 1

      I found a safe, no-poison-needed way to keep ants out of pet food bowls: pet food in bowl, bowl on plate, small amount of water on plate... the water creates a moat that the ants, try as they may, can't get past...

    78. Re:Obligatory quote by arkarumba · · Score: 1

      meme snap!

    79. Re:Obligatory quote by arkarumba · · Score: 1

      Which question was that?

    80. Re:Obligatory quote by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      which involved a hostile Alien being

      Ok...

      discovering that a giant termite colony was being controlled by an alien machine in the core of the Earth dedicated to safeguarding humanity

      Uh-huh...

      and in the end, single handedly repels the invasion.

      Wha...?

      The hostile alien single-handedly repels his own invasion? Or the termites were invading? Or the termites single-handedly repel the hostile alien's invasion, even though they don't have hands? I've never been more confused.

    81. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it was waterproof, people referred to the tape as "Duck Tape."

      Close, but more likely the name came from the name of the cloth backing, which was known as cotton duck.

      Also, if you're using duck tape (or duct tape, if you prefer) for ducts, you're doing it wrong. The type of tape actually used for sealing ductwork is aluminum.

    82. Re:Obligatory quote by evilmousse · · Score: 1

      while a good story involving ants, i don't see the connection.

    83. Re:Obligatory quote by catbertscousin · · Score: 1

      The basic plot and methods used to fight off the ants are almost identical. The MacGyver episode is based on the short story.

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    84. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      42?

    85. Re:Obligatory quote by evilmousse · · Score: 1

      i'm sorry, i missed the macguyver message due to ranking at the time, and thought the comparison was to the simpsons ^^

    86. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      9.8m/s :)

    87. Re:Obligatory quote by Truth+is+life · · Score: 1

      I've read that story. The alien machine repels the hostile alien's invasion using the termites. Hope that helps.

    88. Re:Obligatory quote by b1ng0 · · Score: 1

      It has nothing to do with the blue color but rather the chalk crystals are too sharp for the ants to cross without it puncturing their exoskeleton.

    89. Re:Obligatory quote by Ironica · · Score: 1

      I've never been more confused.

      I hope for your sake that's true.

      There's TWO aliens: hostile invader alien, and friendly alien who left machine in Earth's core to protect humanity via termites. Alien #2 repels Alien #1's invasion "singlehandedly", although probably using thousands of termites, none of which have any actual hands. Having never heard of the story before the GP's post, I'm not sure.

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    90. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was in the military, we referred to green duct/duck tape as "gun tape".

    91. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shut up jew.

    92. Re:Obligatory quote by minvaren · · Score: 1

      The heat in many attics will cook the tape just as much.

      Use aluminum tape or mastic on any ductwork you want to stay connected, no matter heat or cold.

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    93. Re:Obligatory quote by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      I think the best way to scare JWs or Mormons off is to offer them a beer.

    94. Re:Obligatory quote by aus_jackd · · Score: 1

      So you could say that it was a rip-off of the short story "Lenny versus the Ants" by Carl? Sounds like it was made for the Simpsons!

    95. Re:Obligatory quote by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      I don't know, I think the big chemo-receipting antennae towering over the ants path tell the ant more about the world than colors. I think it's something they don't like chemically about the chalk, and I don't think a blue color is going to trick them into thinking that chalk chemical is water chemical.

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    96. Re:Obligatory quote by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      Erm that was meant to be, like, a joke? And I even provided a quote on what the joke was?

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    97. Re:Obligatory quote by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, I wonder if this would work for liberals?

      Liberals? Dunno.

      But if you want to change a rightie's day, just wrap a quarter in six miles of duct tape and leave the ball between their church and the local house of ill repute....they'll give themselves a Brazilian getting to that quarter.

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    98. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So that was You!!!

      I've been eating that and wondering why I keep getting ants stuck between my teeth!!!!

    99. Re:Obligatory quote by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      short story Leningen versus the Ants by Carl Stephenson. [...]
      http://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

      That's a good story.

      Doesn't ring any bells here.
      But for an ant-scary story, look for "Sandkings" by George RR Martin.

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    100. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sooooooo
      you're an idiot then? How's that going? I see you
      figured out how to post on the Internet. You keep at it, big guy!

    101. Re:Obligatory quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved that story in grade school. I remember seeing the MacGyver episode later. Ripoff, but MacGyver is still AWESOME!!!!!

  2. don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    don't tread on an ant he's done nothing to you
    there might come a day
    when he's treading on you
    you'll end up black and blue
    you cut off his head
    legs come looking for you

    so unplug the jukebox
    and do us all a favour
    that music's lost its taste
    so try another flavour -

    antmusic

    1. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by trevorgensch · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      What I want to know - are scientists getting paid to do this sort of stuff? Have they run out of diseases to investigate, plagues to cure?

    2. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by tpjunkie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I doubt entomologists would be investigating diseases or curing plagues. On the plus side, there were probably no epidemiologists involved with this study.

    3. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Luckily, just like in the movies, scientists are completely fungible. Studying retroviruses one day, building robots the next, astrophysics the day after that... In fact, every entomologist was actually torn directly from a sick child's bedside, and is using equipment stolen from the World Cure for Cancer Project.

      Aside from the obvious sarcasm of the above, ants are, even in the crudest economic terms, quite worth studying. Anything that spends its(quite plentiful) time gnawing on our infrastructure and food crops is.

    4. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by OzPeter · · Score: 1, Funny

      Man I can hear that sweet tune now ..

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    5. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by mckinnsb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's also important to discover which species in our planet can actually construct a biosocial structure which matches ours in terms of geographical scope, spanning great oceans without any loss of social integrity. It's one thing to migrate across an ocean - its another thing to migrate across an ocean and not mutate to your environment, which would "cut" you off from the colony. I'm no ant-man, but its my assumption that colonies are identified by sets of pheromones, and I'm assuming that evolution or genetic mutation would impact these pheromones. The fact that these ants can survive nearly anywhere in the world , and also maintain a social bond, is pretty astonishing - and well worth studying.

    6. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You twit, where you do think most of the cures for diseases have come from? It's from the studies of the plant and animals kingdoms. God, I hate narrow-minded morons. It's like the idiots that bitch about all the money spent exploring space, not realized the advances that come from it that are currently enriching their lives.

    7. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or female butts to investigate?

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    8. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Artifakt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm not sure why people make the complaint that some scientific research (like this) is a waste of time.

            I know some scientists who are very human focused. They research something, say cancer, because they really want to help some of the victims they know. If they aren't focused on particularly immediate human scale problems, still they try to watch for ways whatever they are doing can contribute to human happiness or sheer survival. I know others who are mostly value neutral. To one of them, you could talk about breakthroughs in cloning, and he'd ask if they had any uses for fruit-fly studies and if it didn't, he really wouldn't care one way or another. That's pretty much distanced from a 'normal human focus', but the worst thing this guy could possibly do to anyone would be to maybe convince congress to spend a little too much on fruit-fly research. Why is this a big deal in evaluating a scientist?

            I mean, I know some businessmen who give away extra shoes to needy children. I know a lot more who are focused on the bottom line. Almost never do I hear the ones who are focused on their own profits accused of wasting their lives or the time or money of everyone else. Some people may accuse them of greed, but not of being out of touch with human concerns. For lots of professions, having a focus on the bigger picture, thinking about the long term consequences of what you are doing is totally optional, and nobody expects to hear a phrase such as 'for the good of the whole human race'. Nobody criticizes a lawyer for focusing on inter-business contract law instead of becoming a crusading DA and putting more criminals away. Nobody really argues that cosmetic surgeons are evil for not doing heart surgery instead. It's just something in the way they think about science.

            I know some politicians who, when they first heard about cloning, jumped to the idea of building clone armies to conquer the world thirty seconds later. I have never met a biologist who thought that way. If some people slam any scientist who isn't focused on local, immediate, human issues, why do those same people so seldom worry about some politicians who sound like movie cliche mad scientists?

            I usually argue that research such as this example will probably feed back into the whole institution that is science, and benefit humanity in the long run anyway. I still think that's true, but let's assume I'm totally wrong on that point, and it and things like it will totally waste 0.0002% of the world's budgets, and accomplish nothing of significant interest to the bulk of humanity, ever. That makes it about like model trains. Who goes around bemoaning the vast, inhumane waste that is model train hobbydom?

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    9. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      I expected that to end "Burma Shave".

      I've been browsing /. WAY too much.

    10. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "God" is an expression, an exclamation. I am, in fact, an atheist, but what does that have to do with what I wrote?

    11. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by mstahl · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm guessing the reason they didn't mutate to their environment is that their spread across the globe was assisted by humans accidentally, and thus happened much faster than their evolution would allow. They've only been that widespread fairly recently, in the grand scheme of things (like in the past few hundred years), like humans of any particular widespread ethnicity, they can recognize each other as being similar.

      Now, if the different supercolonies across the globe manage to all get along and work together, the ants are ahead of us for sure.

    12. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by hyc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not so surprising though - it just means that the ants have been able to spread faster than their rate of evolution/mutation. Otherwise, they would have differentiated/speciated first. But because it's so easy for them to hitch rides on passing people, cars, boats, and airplanes, they've spread a lot faster than they would naturally have been able to.

      The more interesting thing will be to observe over time and see how long it takes before their super-colony collapses or is torn apart by civil war. Of course that's not likely to occur until their paths of transport and communication are disrupted. If we don't destroy ourselves first, thus giving them a long time to continue to evolve in total connectedness, I guess things will get interesting for them down the road...

      The other interesting point this raises is about language and communication in general - biologists frequently talk about animals communicating with each other via whatever their particular mechanisms may be, but they seem to assume that all the members of a species are homogeneous in their communication methods. That's a pretty naive assumption, given all the different vocal and non-vocal mechanisms various human tribes use to communicate. The interesting question here will be whether this super-colony is an example of genocide (the total annihilation of different/competing ant species) or assimilation...

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    13. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by bitrex · · Score: 4, Funny

      Was the sick child with cancer ok? Why wouldn't the robots the entomologist built help him WHY

    14. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by hoffmanbike · · Score: 1

      thank you for putting it so eloquently. ps: model trains rock!

    15. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by anagama · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Darn -- I wish I hadn't let my mod-points expire. The choices are hard though -- troll, or overrated? I wouldn't call it a flame, and overrated is overused. But it doesn't feel like a troll so much. If you could mod yourself, how would you rate your comment?

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    16. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Miseph · · Score: 1

      He thinks that accusing somebody of not being an atheist is in some way insulting. It was a bizarre and misguided attempt at ad hominem.

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    17. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Especially since they manage to migrate half a globe and not become antisocial towards each other. Scary, when you're from a species that appearantly can't achive this level of evolution yet.

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    18. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by wellingj · · Score: 1, Interesting

      That's an interesting premise. But I have a question: If we were to succeed like ants, why did we as humans leave monarchies behind?

    19. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by mstahl · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because "queen" when referring to ants has a completely different meaning than "queen" when referring to the ruler of a country? Not all people in the UK are biological children hatched from eggs laid by Queen Elizabeth, although it's been a while since I've cracked open a biology textbook.

    20. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Thanshin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nobody really argues that cosmetic surgeons are evil for not doing heart surgery instead.

      You mean the opposite, right? Most people don't argue heart surgeons are evil for not making bigger tits instead.

      Yes, I meant the birds.

    21. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Swampash · · Score: 1

      Argentine ants living in vast numbers across Europe, the US and Japan belong to the same interrelated colony, and will refuse to fight one another.

      The colony may be the largest of its type ever known for any insect species, and could rival humans in the scale of its world domination.

      Rival humans in scale? Shit. Stick some ants from Spain, California, and Japan together and they won't fight. Humans of any relationship will fight each other for any or no reason whatsoever.

      I'd say the ants are the winners in that comparison.

    22. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not all people in the UK are biological children hatched from eggs laid by Queen Elizabeth, although it's been a while since I've cracked open a biology textbook.

      Well, of coursethey aren't. Immigration.

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    23. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Lotana · · Score: 1

      This is the greatest response to this matter I've ever read.

      Nearly every single story about scientific progress has a thread where someone belittles the scientist. I wish that every one of those threads would have a response similar to yours.

      Thank you so much for posting this! It is gems like this that keeps us coming back to this site.

    24. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Lotana · · Score: 1

      Why was this marked as Troll?

      Just because there is a politically-related word inside, doesn't mean that it is in any way disruptive to the discussion!

    25. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Matje · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well the difference is you're paying for your model trains with your own money, whereas the scientist is being paid with *our* money. Big difference.

      The same goes for the difference between a business man focused on the bottom line and a scientist. The public never complains about companies performing useless research, they complain about government paid scientists doing useless research.

      Strange that the other replies praising your post didn't pick up on this. (I wonder whether they're scientists...).

    26. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by vidarh · · Score: 1

      You might have come up with plot for a new Dr Who episode.

    27. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure? I mean, I've been there and...

    28. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by master5o1 · · Score: 1

      You made me realise that these ants have shown to be able to handle one thing greater than us: LONG DISTANCE RELATIONSHIPS.

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    29. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, got it. Thanks.

    30. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know what's even worse? There are people getting paid to perform music, write screenplays, assemble television sets, sell insurance, and mix up alcoholic beverages for people. Have they run out of diseases to investigate, plagues to cure?

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    31. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Which is also completely different from "queen" when referring to either Freddie Mercury or RuPaul.

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    32. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking of lizzards, not ants.

    33. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Isn't it also possible that this is an example of convergent evolution? What if the family of chemicals these ants use to identify each other just happens to be the 'most efficient' one? What if it takes just a little bit less energy to produce it and it spreads just a little bit farther than chemicals that other ant families use? Isn't it at least possible that these ants aren't related to each other at all?

    34. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think every scientist is in the medical field? What the hell is wrong with you?

    35. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by kjllmn · · Score: 1

      How did they make you pay for this ant study? They never approached me!

    36. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by mstahl · · Score: 1

      Then good game, humanity. The battle is already lost.

    37. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Phoenixlol · · Score: 0

      They are still in what could be considered a "race war" of sorts. "Ants from the smaller super-colonies were always aggressive to one another. So ants from the west coast of Japan fought their rivals from Kobe, while ants from the European super-colony didn't get on with those from the Iberian colony."

    38. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly and this is a prof of that evolution in the common understanding never happend.
      Don't missundertand me. Mutations do happen, we only belive too much of what is possible trough mutation.

      HIV mutates activily still it continues to be HIV.
      All experimental mutations (Labrotory test) has never resulted in a different specimen, but mutants of it.
      Learn about the Drosophila http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3406500107.html and follow lind in end of article to.

    39. Re:don't tread on an ant ... by blueZ3 · · Score: 1

      But as a poster above pointed out, my tax dollars aren't collected and distributed to musicians, insurance salesmen, or bartenders. On the other hand, when the government pays a scientist to study why bears crap in the woods, that's money that could be spent on research more likely to produce something useful.

      I'm not arguing that utility is the ultimate yardstick, or that pure research doesn't have any value. But it's easy to see why some folks object to funding a $3 million dollar study of sea otter mating habits when there are other, seemingly more important projects that go wanting.

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  3. Obligatory by incognito84 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I, for one, welcome our new insect Overlords!

    1. Re:Obligatory by Ceiynt · · Score: 1

      These overlords must be the ones that have taken over my back yard. Fire, bleach, anti-freeze, roto-tiller, sll no affect. These overlords will rule us all.

    2. Re:Obligatory by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's one that always works for me:

      boiling water, a whole pot, straight down the hole

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    3. Re:Obligatory by The_Moo_Cow · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think PETA will be happy with that - can't you just ask them nicely to go away ?

    4. Re:Obligatory by rwyoder · · Score: 3, Funny

      These overlords must be the ones that have taken over my back yard. Fire, bleach, anti-freeze, roto-tiller, sll no affect. These overlords will rule us all

      Have you tried playing Slim Whitman songs to them?

    5. Re:Obligatory by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There's one that always works for me: boiling water, a whole pot, straight down the hole

      If you pour molten aluminum down the hole you can get rid of the ants and get a keen casting of the whole nest. You could keep it as a trophy like a stuffed moose head.

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    6. Re:Obligatory by fj3k · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've tried that, but they keep bugging me about killing the ants...

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    7. Re:Obligatory by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, you've got it backwards. Ask the ants nicely, and pour the boiling water down the PETA hole.

    8. Re:Obligatory by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 1

      Well, then get a bigger pot of water and find PETA's hive.

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    9. Re:Obligatory by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Mod Parent +10 Awesomeness.

    10. Re:Obligatory by Ares · · Score: 1

      having just been in dc last week, that's exactly what i thought; the national museum of natural history has one or two on display, with comments to the effect that yup, killed the ants.

    11. Re:Obligatory by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have tried something similar with hornets nests. It failed miserably.

      How do you get the molten aluminum to keep from freezing in the tunnels and blocking the penetration of the rest of the aluminum?

      How do you get it to flow up the tunnels that ascend from intersections?

      Inquiring minds want to know. (And evil minds want to apply your techniques to subway tunnels.)

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    12. Re:Obligatory by bishop32x · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sufficient pressure and flow rate. I would suggest using some termites to construct a small riser above your ant hole, so you get some pressure build up. Don't forget to heat your aluminum to it pouring temperature (~1380 F) rather than it's melting temperature. The decreased viscosity increases flow rate (compare pouring molasses and water down funnels) and well as allowing the aluminum to travel further before solidifying.

    13. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one welcome our new globally-conquering ant overlords.

    14. Re:Obligatory by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Funny

      what a coincidence, I too once was in D.C. in a big marble building and had the same thought about pouring molten aluminum into obnoxious holes atop caverns festering with evil and spewing forth pestilence. Those weren't ant holes, but a pair of a-holes.

    15. Re:Obligatory by TinBromide · · Score: 1

      make it hot, dig out a cone above the ant hole to act as a funnel, pour it fast.

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    16. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    17. Re:Obligatory by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Funny

      I always ask PETA nicely to go away. But just in case, I also keep the boiling pot ready.

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    18. Re:Obligatory by mlock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We had a problem with earth wasps, which were settled below some bush.

      I finally cut a 10cm hole in a piece of wood, put thin wires in two (perpendicular) layers over it, and then with two elkos and two diodes got about 600V with 1Ws on them ...

      The first few wasps got lighted in the middle, and when the others tried to help they got roasted, too.
      After a few minutes I turned the power off, shook the board over a bucket until it's clean again, and put it back.

      Two hours later the wasps used another hole to take their eggs somewhere else.

    19. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did it on TV with molten zinc. Don't know the specifics of how everything works, but it was fascinating when they excavated the nest.

    20. Re:Obligatory by pbhj · · Score: 1

      I tried boiling water. It worked for the immediate vicinity of the hole but didn't extend to killing a large proportion. I also tried methylated spirits ... pour it down and then set fire to it. Worked OK, but the liquid in the hole thing seems flawed, perhaps it could be injected as a vapour. Fire is more fun.

      Maybe a gas burner could be used to fill the nest with propane and then light it off at an exit hole? Not sure if this might be a little dangerous, YMMV.

    21. Re:Obligatory by HopeOS · · Score: 1

      On a similar note, hydrogen peroxide at 50% concentration does the trick nicely. Heats to super-hot steam on contact with the dirt, and bakes the colony from the inside out. I've occasionally seen plumes of steam erupt from other places in the yard. Rarely takes more than one treatment a year and costs less than gasoline if purchased in reasonable quantities. -Hope

    22. Re:Obligatory by Minthos · · Score: 1

      These overlords must be the ones that have taken over my back yard. Fire, bleach, anti-freeze, roto-tiller, sll no affect. These overlords will rule us all.

      You didn't specify what kind of bleach or at what concentration. I bet hydrogen peroxide in fairly high concentration would finish them off.

    23. Re:Obligatory by Mephistro · · Score: 0

      That would look great next to my stuffed baby seal. Where do I have to sign?

    24. Re:Obligatory by jackbird · · Score: 1

      I lived for a time in a poor town in Israel, doing volunteer work with Russian immigrants in the local schools. The floors of my apartment building were made by laying tile (with no grout) atop compacted sand. Messy roommates = ant colonies under the entire floor of the housein the sand, building indoor anthills at junctions of 4 tiles. Mopping with boiling water every other day did very, very little to deter their enthusiasm.

    25. Re:Obligatory by Ares · · Score: 1

      Those weren't ant holes, but a pair of a-holes.

      you only managed to find two?

    26. Re:Obligatory by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Where I come from, ants make hills not holes.

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    27. Re:Obligatory by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Where do you get 50% H2O2 from? The highest I can find is 35% and I'd have to send away for that.

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    28. Re:Obligatory by Sinbios · · Score: 1

      Since the oxygen in the tunnels is rather limited I'd think fire wouldn't go too far.

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    29. Re:Obligatory by Inda · · Score: 3, Informative

      I know you're joking but, being an ex-patternmaker and working for a foundry, I can tell you this:

      You need to add runners and risers to the nest before pouring. The runners will feed the metal into the correct holes and the risers will store heat allowing the metal to flow without freezing too quickly. You also have to remember that the metal will freeze quicker on the outside of the tubes, leaving the middle potions free to flow. High yields aren't an option with too many runners though - it's a Fettler's nightmare too.

      Yay! 4 years training, and 4 years practicing, just to explain this on Slashdot!

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    30. Re:Obligatory by pbhj · · Score: 1

      You're right, I need propane-oxygen, like a cutting torch; or maybe oxy-acetylene?

    31. Re:Obligatory by Sinbios · · Score: 1

      I'd think it would be difficult to keep the oxygen and fuel mixed sufficiently due to different densities, or to make sure the fuel spreads through the tunnels evenly.

      All in all, I think trying to light a fire underground is just a little too much effort to be worthwhile.

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    32. Re:Obligatory by pbhj · · Score: 1

      The mixture doesn't need to remain for long, nor am i bothered about penetrating more than a metre or so into the nest. 95% destruction will be fine. If I had the money I'd be out buying a cutting torch and some large sheets of glass to make an ant farm with - the proof of the pudding and all that.

      Nuke them from orbit then?

    33. Re:Obligatory by hughk · · Score: 1

      Isn't H2O2 on Homeland inSecurity's shit list above a certain percentage? I believe it is used in the manufacture of TATP, hence the concern.

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  4. Genetic drift by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder how long it would take for the geographically isolated colonies (who share the same mega-colony ancestry) to drift enough that they lose their association with the parent mega-colony, and cease to treat other sub-colonies as friends.

    How much variation in the cuticle hydrocarbons is acceptable? Are there specific 'marker' hydrocarbons that help differentiate between colonies? Genetically, is it a matter of different intron expression, or is it variation within a single intron? How many base pairs are involved if that's the case?

    Damn, I knew I shouldn't have coffee this late.

    Well, I'm off to plunder the depths of the internet in hopes of learning more about ant colony differentiation. Adieu!

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    1. Re:Genetic drift by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

      The ant is what happens when a species finds a niche and becomes so exquisitely adapted to it that further evolution is almost always detrimental. For a short time genetic change remains advantageous so long as it results in less genetic change. So you get the whole "single queen" reproductive model. The fact that ants have not completely lost their ability to sexually reproduce indicates that some advantage is still to be gained by it, but its most likely more about passing on antibodies than it is genes.
       

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    2. Re:Genetic drift by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, I'm off to plunder the depths of the internet in hopes of learning more about ant colony differentiation. Adieu!

      I'm back. Whew! Plundering the depths of the internet is exhausting.

      I didn't manage to learn much about ant colony differentiation, but I did learn that:

      1. A leaf-cutter ant queen mates only once - just before establishing a new colony. She can then keep the sperm viable for up to 15 years and produce as many as 300 million offspring (Wow!).
      2. The study of ants is called Myrmecology.
      3. In heraldry the two-tailed mermaid is shown full face with the ends of her tails held in each hand. Both single-tailed and double-tailed varieties symbolize eloquence. If she has her comb and mirror with her then it means vanity.
      4. You can buy cheap bathroom vanities from some site called vanities.pronto.com.
      5. If you mispell "pronto" while googling with safesearch turned off, the results are um... interesting.
      6. Adult chat tends to focus on certain subjects. And "LilMissHotty69" is actually a guy from Peoria, IL named Bob who is into fishing and fixing up GTOs. Who knew?

      Maybe plundering the depths of the internet is not the best way to learn about an esoteric subject when hopped up on caffeine.

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    3. Re:Genetic drift by Destoo · · Score: 1

      It's actually the BEST and ONLY way to really learn. There is probably a Ballmer peak equivalent for Coffee vs Research.

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    4. Re:Genetic drift by LilMissHotty69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      And "LilMissHotty69" is actually a guy from Peoria, IL named Bob who is into fishing and fixing up GTOs. Who knew?

      But you can't tell me you didnt enjoy it ;)

    5. Re:Genetic drift by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      More over, genetic drift is unlikely to operate in this case because natural selection on ants occurs at the colony level--which is to say that it is colonies that whither and die, rather than individuals. For genetic drift to occur there would have to be several different colonies, but in that case the question would be moot.

    6. Re:Genetic drift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it greatly depends on the rate at which reproductive members are moved from one part of the mega colony (e.g. continent) to another. If this happens frequently enough, then there the gene pools will continue to mix and never drift apart. Which is not to say that remote parts of the mega-colony won't get isolated periodically. . .

    7. Re:Genetic drift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Adieu!

      It's Aeiou. Not sure why you're signing off with a list of vowels, but "d" is not one of them.

    8. Re:Genetic drift by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Is this a Slashdot post or a commercial for Bing?

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    9. Re:Genetic drift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      (B)ing (I)s (N)ot (G)oogle...

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    10. Re:Genetic drift by genner · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I'm off to plunder the depths of the internet in hopes of learning more about ant colony differentiation. Adieu!

      I'm back. Whew! Plundering the depths of the internet is exhausting. I didn't manage to learn much about ant colony differentiation, but I did learn that: 1. A leaf-cutter ant queen mates only once - just before establishing a new colony. She can then keep the sperm viable for up to 15 years and produce as many as 300 million offspring (Wow!). 2. The study of ants is called Myrmecology. 3. In heraldry the two-tailed mermaid is shown full face with the ends of her tails held in each hand. Both single-tailed and double-tailed varieties symbolize eloquence. If she has her comb and mirror with her then it means vanity. 4. You can buy cheap bathroom vanities from some site called vanities.pronto.com. 5. If you mispell "pronto" while googling with safesearch turned off, the results are um... interesting. 6. Adult chat tends to focus on certain subjects. And "LilMissHotty69" is actually a guy from Peoria, IL named Bob who is into fishing and fixing up GTOs. Who knew? Maybe plundering the depths of the internet is not the best way to learn about an esoteric subject when hopped up on caffeine.

      Stop SHILLING for Bing.com

    11. Re:Genetic drift by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That list sounds a bit like a day in wikipedia for me. You start looking for some history dates and end up with the nutrition information of a fruit you've never seen nor ever will because it's been extinct for a few hundred years...

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    12. Re:Genetic drift by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 2, Informative

      They call it one super colony because closely related ants move freely between the smaller colonies, but each queen is genetically distinct. Genetic drift should affect them the same as any other species of ant.

    13. Re:Genetic drift by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Silly Rabbit, so long as they all continue to speak Antinese they will get along just fine. It isn't along someone comes along speaking Antlish that problems crop up.

    14. Re:Genetic drift by Exception+Duck · · Score: 1

      DonÂt they reproduce by cloning ?
      Is there any evolution going on for them still ?

      F.x. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7998931.stm

      "By "fingerprinting" DNA of the ant species - Mycocepurus smithii - they found them all to be clones of the colony's queen."

    15. Re:Genetic drift by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Mycocepurus smithii are the exception not the rule :)

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    16. Re:Genetic drift by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      If a new colony appears that is sufficently different then the super-colony will overwhelm it. It would seem for a colony to speciate it would need to be geographically isolated from it's parent super-colony and diverge before it becomes a super-colony itself.

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    17. Re:Genetic drift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She can then keep the sperm viable for up to 15 years and produce as many as 300 million offspring

      The Offspring have produced 300 million too. And for more than 15 years.

    18. Re:Genetic drift by Goffee71 · · Score: 1

      Ant Jp18273651 - "How's he taste?"
      Ant US9875981 - "Bitchin'... like chicken"


      I don't think it'll be a problem as they devour our flesh.

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    19. Re:Genetic drift by laejoh · · Score: 1

      What did you do with the robe and the wizard's hat?

    20. Re:Genetic drift by vertinox · · Score: 1

      I think the problem is that ants rely on a single queen to lay all the eggs. If a queen was born without the correct pheromones they might instantly kill it.

      Now there might be an off chance that a single queen escapes from the original colony and builds her own, but if that colony runs into any other colony they will of course kill the differening colony with simple weight of numbers.

      Of course some random human might take that queen to its own island somewhere and then it would work out but... that would be cheating.

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    21. Re:Genetic drift by master5o1 · · Score: 1

      Hey! I thought only free and open source software could use recursive acronyms -- GNU's Not Unix; WINE Is Not an Emulator; etc.

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    22. Re:Genetic drift by bloodninja · · Score: 4, Funny

      What did you do with the robe and the wizard's hat?

      Those are mine.

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    23. Re:Genetic drift by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Sorry your plundering didn't include the story. If it had, you'd have read the part where we humans are moving the super-colony ants back and forth across oceans, thus keeping their genetic pools pretty similar.
       
      Normally, you were correct in thinking that genetic drift would happen, and they would then fight each other. We keep mixing them up, so that doesn't happen. (Thus sealing our own inevitable doom.)

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    24. Re:Genetic drift by pnuema · · Score: 1

      MOD PARENT UP

    25. Re:Genetic drift by ChiRaven · · Score: 1

      And could humans subvert this process through genetic engineering to hasten this genetic drift if we decided that the ants WERE getting to be too much of a bother?

    26. Re:Genetic drift by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Hence why I mentioned geographically isolated colonies.

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    27. Re:Genetic drift by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      I think the problem is that ants rely on a single queen to lay all the eggs. If a queen was born without the correct pheromones they might instantly kill it.

      But if her pheremones only differ slightly... not enough to trigger the 'attack' behavior...

      And then when she begins a new colony, one of her offspring is also only slightly different...

      And so on until differentiation is complete.

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    28. Re:Genetic drift by JTsyo · · Score: 1

      How would the escaping queen mate in this scenario?

    29. Re:Genetic drift by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      But if her pheremones only differ slightly... not enough to trigger the 'attack' behavior...

      And then when she begins a new colony, one of her offspring is also only slightly different...

      And so on until differentiation is complete.

      But when you reach that point, all of the neighbors (who are, after all, descendants of the original queen's mom) will come over and eat the new, divergent queen.

      There've been a lot of ant generations since that super-colony got started without any drift to speak of....

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    30. Re:Genetic drift by Ironica · · Score: 1

      The public license on recursive acronyms doesn't preclude commercial appropriation of the method, apparently.

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    31. Re:Genetic drift by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      You were the first of three responders to mention Bing, so I assume I've missed something.

    32. Re:Genetic drift by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1

      I can't believe bloodninja was still available well into the 7 digit IDs. Well played, sir!

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  5. I'm pretty sure... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... I've seen this movie. It was about 20 years ago. All I can say is - we're in a LOT of trouble guys.

    BTW if any of you are currently working in a research facility in the middle of the desert, I'd advise you to get out now.

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    1. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Nutria · · Score: 4, Informative

      It was about 55 years ago.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them! My kids loved it...

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    2. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. it was 32 years ago: "Empire of the Ants" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075989/ with Joan Collins. The curse of having a friend be a movie theater manager implied that we all got to see this wonder of cinema many times...

      IMDB claims that this is inspiration for the phrase, "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords," which should have great resonance for /.

    3. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Tsar · · Score: 2, Informative

      The movie he was referring to was Phase IV. The last line still haunts me.
      On a related note, if you haven't read Charles Stross' award-winning 2007 novella "Missile Gap", read it now.

    4. Re:I'm pretty sure... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      The movie he was referring to was Phase IV. The last line still haunts me.

      I'm pretty sure that was it! They weren't giant ants - just one huge collective of regular-sized ants possessing a massive hive intelligence.

      I still remember the little buggers getting into the wiring, sacrificing themselves so the overall invasion could succeed. As a kid, it seemed pretty creepy to me.

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    5. Re:I'm pretty sure... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Funny
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    6. Re:I'm pretty sure... by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      I remember that flick. The first of many (first for me, at least) films largely based out of the L.A. river. Seeing all those Jeeps disappearing down those ducts, flame-throwers a-ready. Damn. Wonder if I could find that flick on-line.

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    7. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I think the parent is talking about the 1974 movie Phase IV, about scientists in the desert studying a colony of ants.

      http://www.1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/phaseiv.htm
      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070531/

    8. Re:I'm pretty sure... by xororand · · Score: 1

      Phase IV (1974).... A great, unfortunately often underrated and unknown movie. It's a bit like 2001: Space Odyssey with ants, in the desert. The excellent close-up shots of ants alone are worth it. By the way, it has been recently released on NTSC DVD in very decent quality by Legend films.

    9. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      might be meaning

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_IV [wikipedia.org] 35yrs ago

    10. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was also about 35 years ago

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_IV

      The only thing history teaches us is that we are too stupid to learn from it. Of course a benefit of that stupidity is that it makes reworked movie plots a gold mine.

    11. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Others have mentioned that he was referring to Phase IV. I'd like to point out that there was a great MST3K done on that movie. One of my favorites at least.

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    12. Re:I'm pretty sure... by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 1

      I remember the movie, and that the ending was way creepy, but what was the last line?

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    13. Re:I'm pretty sure... by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      I saw this movie 10 years ago when it was called, "Starship Trooper". Shortly thereafter, I played the video game version, called "Starcraft", until I blew out the tendons in my elbow.

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  6. boric acid plus sugar water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the case of Argentine ants, boric acid powder (cheap at the hw store) plus syrup has worked fairly well for me.

    Sometimes they want fat instead of sugar, use peanut butter instead of syrup. Don't overdo the boric acid or they won't bite.

    Just goog for recipes.

    1. Re:boric acid plus sugar water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about earwigs? F*cking everywhere, including in the house.

    2. Re:boric acid plus sugar water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your best bet with earwigs would be some earmuffs or some earplugs. Either one will do the trick on those nasty wigs.

    3. Re:boric acid plus sugar water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Embrace your inner Khan.

  7. But apparently they can't even use telephones! by Brietech · · Score: 4, Informative
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    1. Re:But apparently they can't even use telephones! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, that is a set of references. Excellent!

  8. Not one supercolony by EZLeeAmused · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One supercolony makes it sound like they have organization (of the ant-ish variety) that spans the globe. This is just a bunch of small colonies whose scents are so similar that members of the other colonies are unable to discern that they are, in fact, not from their own colony.

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    1. Re:Not one supercolony by icebike · · Score: 1

      This is just a bunch of small colonies whose scents are so similar that members of the other colonies are unable to discern that they are, in fact, not from their own colony.

      That's my take on this as well.

      This sounds like kids with a a couple of ant farms substituting for science.

      Wake me when they have mapped the mitrochondrial DNA and determined that they did indeed descend from some common "Ant Eve"

      Till then Bad Breath (or pheromones) might be an equally likely explanation.

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    2. Re:Not one supercolony by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      Makes you wonder though, is it possible for a worker to wander away from her own colony and be accepted into another? Could that even be happening regularly? How about on rare occasions? If a queen dies unexpectedly, would a whole bunch of workers just move to a colony that still had one? How likely is it that drones released from one colony will fertilize local queens and how likely distant ones - is this different from other ant types? Do this bunch's drones and pre-mating queens fly farther from the parent nest, confident they will still find potential mates?
            Individual ants really have no idea what's going on, but ant organizations are generally something that exists at higher levels than single ants even know they are part of (admittedly very different from most human organizations). But, look at a human organization, such as the Elks club. Not a lot of humans are affected by it, and most of us don't know how many local chapters their are, or if the whole is international in scope or not. You could watch a whole lot of humans for a whole lot of years before figuring out that a few check in at Elk's clubs any time they travel to a distant city. Maybe there are more real differences at the organizational levels than would show up frequently in watching a few colonies for a few months or even years. This could be more than we are likely to have seen yet, and more than 'just' similar scents may be involved.

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    3. Re:Not one supercolony by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      At least with the Elks, we know they're benevolent. With the ants, we can't know that for certain.

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  9. Billy Mays here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just want to remind everyone, that when the ant revolution does come, that Oxyclean(tm) DOES in fact kill ants.

    1. Re:Billy Mays here by nausea_malvarma · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      G-G-G-GHOST!!!!!

    2. Re:Billy Mays here by mstahl · · Score: 1

      Too soon!

    3. Re:Billy Mays here by stile99 · · Score: 1

      Just want to remind everyone, that when the ant revolution does come, that Oxyclean(tm) DOES in fact kill ants.

      Holy crap, he was right! Nothing beats the power of oxygen...even Death itself!

  10. Its here ... by PPH · · Score: 0

    ...the New World Order everyone has been talking about.

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  11. One word by actionbastard · · Score: 1
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  12. Poor ants by Anonymous+Struct · · Score: 5, Funny

    When they saw the breadth of their domain, they wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.

    1. Re:Poor ants by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      And on the pedestal these words appear:
      "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
      Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
      Nothing beside remains.

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  13. Ants... by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

    This is very bad news for Hopper and the rest of his gang.

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  14. Senator Claghorn says... by unitron · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's alright. Here in the South we have our fire ants (Solenopsis invicta) to defend us.

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  15. We must stop these terrorist killers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Listen, and understand. Those ants are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

  16. it's better than an aunt mega colony by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    the mole with the hair on the cheek, the kiss on the nose with the bad breath, the completely lame christmas presents, the drunk hysterical laughter at the adult table

    everywhere, everywhere on the globe

    (shudder)

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    1. Re:it's better than an aunt mega colony by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      the mole with the hair on the cheek, the kiss on the nose with the bad breath, the completely lame christmas presents, the drunk hysterical laughter at the adult table

      You seem to have forgotten the upsides to aunts. The shoulder to cry on, the insights on dealing with your parents, the awkward introduction to sexual contact...

      Wait, was that my out-loud voice?

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    2. Re:it's better than an aunt mega colony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couldnt agree more with parent! I lived in my mother's extended family house. My aunts were my proxy moms when I couldnt get along with my own. Since I was the first child of the extended family, they always treated me mroe special than their own kids.

      And man were they each perfect examples of womanhood! So much so I desperately hoped one of em would beget a daughter so I can get a spouse in their image! But unfly they all had male kids :( I definitely own relative success - despite being the archetypal basement dwelling geek - with this thing they call woman, to early familiarity with these epitomes of womanhood :)

      Even today I owe my positive, holistic, passionate outlook in life, despitte many tragedies, to these incredible aunts.

    3. Re:it's better than an aunt mega colony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to have forgotten the upsides to aunts. The shoulder to cry on, the insights on dealing with your parents, the awkward introduction to sexual contact

      Speak for yourself! I didn't find sex with your aunt awkward at all!

  17. I've done battle with them and retreated... by originalhack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had these ants in my old house. Seal up one path and they find another. Put a pesticide on the baseboards and they run across the ceiling. The liquid ant bait/poison kills them, but they keep coming. I used a whole lot of the stuff and there was a 1/4" layer of dead ants in the room and they kept coming. It turns out that the anthills are all connected and they will even add a local hill if they find something that seems like a good source of food.

    I finally sold the house.... Sucker!!

    1. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by fdicostanzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      On a recent trip to Jamaica, we had some tiny little ants in a nest in the bathroom wall. I discovered that they wouldn't cross invisible Vaseline lines rubbed on the wall.

      Well, after a few days, I had created complex Vaseline mazes for the ants with food smudges at strategic locations. Got them to spell out my name with their ant trails. Wife wasn't as impressed as you might imagine.

      Beaches were nice too.

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    2. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by Velocir · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the Posleen. What you needed were engineers and ACS :P

    3. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by EdIII · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, I have had some fun times with Jamaican Ganja too man.

    4. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by jchernia · · Score: 1

      The liquid ant bait is really good. You also have to clean up the food/water source that they are looking for very consistently. Also you have to bait outside. Finally, when you find their hills, ants drown pretty easily (just keep flooding with water). I've heard gasoline suggested as a "kill all" as well.

    5. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by antdude · · Score: 1

      No photographs or videos? :( That's hilarious too!

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    6. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by mgblst · · Score: 1

      ...food smudges...

      You sure it was food smudges?? Brown, sticky food smudges?

      I can understand why she wouldn't be impressed.

    7. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by wilkinc · · Score: 5, Funny

      Got them to spell out my name with their ant trails. Wife wasn't as impressed as you might imagine.

      That was your mistake, you should have got the ants to spell out your wife's name
      Women love that romantic stuff!

    8. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some reason I believe you... must be the low account number.

    9. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      and Bun Bun

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    10. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      I had to deal with an ant invasion in my office just recently. I work in the back of the server room and turning the AC on kept them away, but then froze me out of my office. The exterminator my company sent was useless. He put down some ant bait, they ate it and came looking for more. I didn't want to spray ant poison in my office, but I had to do something. Then I noticed the can of Lysol in the bathroom. I borrowed it and laid down a nice blanket of Lysol on my rug and a thick Lysol barrier by my door. That kept them at bay for a day or two before it needed reinforcing. Those ants were persistent, but all their scurrying was in vein. There was no food in the back of the server room. (At least none that I'm aware of.) Finally, after a month or two of battle with the ants, they moved on. I'm guessing they found another place with a better food source.

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    11. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by dvoecks · · Score: 1

      You magnificent bastard!

    12. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, a classic line like

      SOME PIG

      uh, mebbe not

    13. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by Bugs42 · · Score: 1

      Got them to spell out my name with their ant trails. Wife wasn't as impressed as you might imagine.

      That was your mistake, you should have got the ants to spell out your wife's name Women love that romantic stuff!

      Huh. Guess that's why I'm still single - my first thought was "Guy needs a new wife." Your idea is probably better.

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    14. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Molten lead. Get's 'em every time!

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    15. Re:I've done battle with them and retreated... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and wht was the vaseline for?

  18. Do I really Need to Say It? by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I for one welcome our... ah never mind.

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  19. Discovery channel talked about this by seekret · · Score: 1

    I remember seeing this on the Discovery channel a few years ago, it was really cool seeing how these ants recognized one another as family and acted as such. On the other hand they were extremely violent to ants of different colonies and if I remember right the Discovery channel's pitch was that they are bent on world domination (of ants).

  20. There was a book about this by not-my-real-name · · Score: 1

    Some years back (1952), Clifford Simak wrote a book that, among other things, described the earth as being overrun by ants. I'm not sure if it's in print any more, but you may be able to find it in a used book store. Well worth a read.

    Oh, the name of the book is "City".

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    1. Re:There was a book about this by Vectronic · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Re:There was a book about this by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      Or 80 of his in DOC & RTF though.

    3. Re:There was a book about this by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Could you hook me up with an invite code?

    4. Re:There was a book about this by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      I would, If I could give you it without 1200 other people seeing it.

    5. Re:There was a book about this by Vectronic · · Score: 1
    6. Re:There was a book about this by shaitand · · Score: 1

      shaitand@NOSPAMgmail.com

  21. Isopropl Alochol spray by Danathar · · Score: 1

    It's clean, dries up disinfects AND kills ants on contact within seconds. It's also cheap. Trust me...it works.

    1. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of sicko are you. Haven't you heard of magnifying glasses?

    2. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it HAVE to be an either/or thing?

    3. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by pamri · · Score: 1

      Another effective and greener solution is to use Turmeric. It does not kill ants, but just deters them.

    4. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by chill · · Score: 1

      It deters them? I'll bet your neighbors just LOVE you. I know that was the general tactic in Florida, when people just ended up deterring mounds of fire ants into their neighbor's yards. Great way to make friends.

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    5. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Considering that IPA is flammable, I'd recommend a YES!

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    6. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Yeah but the reason it was the general tactic is because killing the ants while giving you a warm fuzzy feeling inside doesn't do much of anything. You can't really kill them all or kill them off, its pretty much impossible.

      Besides, it isn't as if there are any neighbors in Florida that aren't already owned by the ants anyway.

    7. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by Danathar · · Score: 1

      Well duh...don't use it NEAR A FLAME

    8. Re:Isopropl Alochol spray by Danathar · · Score: 1

      Kinda hard to do indoors

  22. Human Slaves In An Insect Nation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  23. Evil Ant Overlords Positioned to Strike July 4th! by itsybitsy · · Score: 1

    The Evil Ant Overlords have positioned themselves to strike in a similar manner to the way that the aliens in Independence Day 4 did. Note that it's July 1st with the strike coming July 4th, the traditional day for alien attacks due to the large demographic in the USA being drunk. Run for the hills... oh, they are full of ants... don't run for the hills... run for the city... oh, they are full of ants.... sigh.... raid! raid! raid! run to Wallmart and buy all the Raid!!!

  24. Only one thing to do with a global infestation by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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    1. Re:Only one thing to do with a global infestation by mb1 · · Score: 1

      yeah, why don't we put her in charge...?

    2. Re:Only one thing to do with a global infestation by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      God damn it you guys! *cues up Aliens from the media server*

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    3. Re:Only one thing to do with a global infestation by mb1 · · Score: 1

      the extended edition, I trust... :)

    4. Re:Only one thing to do with a global infestation by Private_Hudson · · Score: 1

      Let's just bug out and call it even, OK? What are we talking about this for?

  25. Argentine ants are amazing by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here in Massachusetts they're so common and they're pretty much the first ant I ever saw in my back yard as a child in the 70's that I figured they were native.(They're all over the place. Hell, I only found out they're an invasive species last year. That's how completely settled in these little guys are.) Also unlike fire ants they don't bite but man do they breed like crazy.(I know I should get rid of them from my yard but most of the time they don't actually do anything to annoy me. When I see them it's pretty much "Who cares?" which is not my response when I see carpenter ants or yellow jackets.) They're definitely doing something right.

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  26. I for one... by Ortega-Starfire · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...signed up for the Mobile Infantry! Service Guarantees Citizenship!

    Klendathu delenda est!

    Would you like to know more?

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    1. Re:I for one... by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      We must meet this threat with our valor, our blood, indeed with our very lives to ensure that human civilization, not insect, dominates this galaxy now and always!

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  27. One Big Family by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 1

    A mega-colony of ants...now imagine if all the uncles joined them...
    *Ducks all the flying objects headed his way*

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  28. Philotic Web by UndyingShadow · · Score: 1

    Do they communicate philoticly?

    1. Re:Philotic Web by Macgrrl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe you'll find they are bugs, not buggers.

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  29. Fredric Brown's by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    "Come and go mad" could get nicely updated in the light of this discovery.

  30. They are getting ready for the end of oil by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

    I still remember a story about this, so vividly, from when I was a kid. I must have seen the movie too, whatever.

    The point is that the ants are just waiting until we can't fire up the moats anymore. As soon as you give up your SUV, with it's 35 gallon gas tank, you are toast (not the ants)!

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  31. Re:kinf of like kde vs gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You looking for the local chapter and got lost?

  32. I looked at an ant under a microscope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It had six tiny swastika armbands on its legs.

    We are being invaded by Nazi ants.

    You welcome our insect overlords; I will be finding someplace to hide.

  33. Insect nation by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 2, Funny

    As Bill Bailey said, we're human slaves in an Insect Nation (AHAAAAAHAAAAAAA!)

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  34. Ants secretly control our world . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ... at least according to Fredric Brown's Sci-Fi short story, "Come and Go Mad". This story is about a man, "Nappy", living in modern times. He once believed he was Napoleon, but has been cured of this belief when the story starts. Through a series of eerie events we discover he really is Napoleon. He has been body-swapped by red and black ants who have secretly controled all of human activity and are the true rulers of our world.

  35. Phase IV by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 1

    Worldwide!

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    For sure they won't ever become so stupid. [VR-1988]
  36. World Domination by trekie9001 · · Score: 1
    FTA:

    The colony may be the largest of its type ever known for any insect species, and could rival humans in the scale of its world domination.

  37. Argentines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    FTA: These introduced Argentine ants are renowned for forming large colonies, and for becoming a significant pest, attacking native animals and crops.

    Living in a country neighbor to Argentina, I completely agreed with that sentence, until I realized they were talking about the ants! :-)

  38. Maybe Douglas Adams was onto something... by Exception+Duck · · Score: 1

    Shameless rip from Wikipedia:

    Golgafrincham is a red semi-desert planet that is home of the Great Circling Poets of Arium and a species of particularly inspiring lichen. Its people decided it was time to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population, and so the descendants of the Circling Poets concocted a story that their planet would shortly be destroyed in a great catastrophe. (It was apparently under threat from a "mutant star goat"). The useless third of the population (consisting of hairdressers, tired TV producers*, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, management consultants, telephone sanitizers and the like) were packed into the B-Ark, one of three giant Ark spaceships, and told that everyone else would follow shortly in the other two. The other two thirds of the population, of course, did not follow and "led full, rich and happy lives until they were all suddenly wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Places_in_The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy

  39. In related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In related news, scientists determined that frogs from around the world actually form one huge super-duper-mega-colony. They were able to know by finding out that frogs from different parts of the world, when introduced to each other, didn't fight.

    Seriously, isn't this definition of a "colony" a bit useless? Of course if you apply it, you really DO have a mega-colony, but it doesn't match what anyone would normally expect to constitute a "colony".

  40. Best ant-based sci-fi: Phase IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070531/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_IV

  41. Yes you can by brunes69 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can kill all the ants in a few ways

    a) Follow them back to find the colony. Boil 4-8 gallons of water i a big stock pot, kick the top off of the ant hill, and dump it down. The boiling water will rapidly travel along all of the tunnels and it should reach the queen, taking out the whole colony at once.

    b) Bait the places where they enter your house with a liquid borax/sugar mixture. These ant mixtures are available at any store. The ants take the food and bing it back to the colony, where they all eat it - and the borax eventually kills all of them.

  42. Isn't it nice by brasselv · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I clicked on this article, I was 99.9% sure that the first comment would welcome ants overlords...

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  43. The Red and the Black by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    IIRC, was the title of a sci-fi short story I read long ago. Though bringing it up in this thread just spoiled it for everyone who hadn't read it yet.

  44. Research? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, it sounds to me like these "researchers" just got some foldin' grant money and flew around trying to get bugs to fight.

    How do I become an entomologist -- or a scam artist like these guys?

  45. Which one has the intelligence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the humans or the ants?

  46. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  47. Don't piss the ants off... by diefuchsjagden · · Score: 0

    The ants here
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    "Kann man Herzen brechen
    kÃnnen Herzen sprechen
    kann man Herzen quÃlen
    kann man Herzen stehlen

    Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck
    doch seh ich dann nach unten weg
    da schlaegt es links

    KÃnnen Herzen singen
    kann ein Herz zerspringen
    kÃnnen Herzen rein sein
    kann ein Herz aus Stein sein

    Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck
    doch seh ich dann nach unten weg
    da schlÃgt es links
    links zwo drei vier

    Kann man Herzen fragen
    ein Kind darunter tragen
    kann man es verschenken
    mit dem Herzen denken

    Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck
    doch seh ich dann nach unten weg
    da schlÃgt es in der linken Brust
    der Neider hat es schlecht gewusst"

    Ich mÃchte zu Rammstein danken sagen.

    See EVEN Rammstein saw this coming years ago...

  48. the meek shall inherit the earth by yossarianuk · · Score: 1

    Time to get to lizard breath and get the 5 bits of evidence we need to call in the national guard .
    Watch out round there the Hell cats are a nasty bunch
    At least when the ants do 'get you' you wake up to a pretty nurse.

  49. Medical Marijuana by rgviza · · Score: 1

    That's because the meetings are held in California, the California ants know where the medical marijuana is grown, and hold the meetings at the Grateful Dead ranch. Peace brother.

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  50. HAIL ANTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.vdare.com/images/091706_ss_WelcomeOurNew.jpg

  51. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Insightful

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  52. I can't believe no one said it... by hellfire · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our new Argentinian Ant overlords!

    Obligatory fulfilled.

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    1. Re:I can't believe no one said it... by Chuggzugg · · Score: 1

      I guess this is what happens when the meme outstrips the source.

      Please see the first post.

  53. Reaction to members of smaller colonies by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

    The article talks about how ants from different super colonies in the same region react aggressively to each other and how ants from the largest super colonies on separate continents react as if they are from the same colony. What it doesn't mention is the reaction of ants from the largest super colony in California to ants from the smaller super colony in Japan (or the smaller super colony in Europe). If ants of this species from California get along with ants from either of the colonies in Europe or Japan, then this interaction is much more complicated than the article reports. The only way the scientists conclusion is supported is if the ants from California get a similar reaction from ants from the smaller colonies as the ants from the larger colony in the region do.

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  54. What has Search Overload done to you? by donutello · · Score: 1

    Find the cure a Bing.com.

    Your post is the second link on the resuls page :)

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    1. Re:What has Search Overload done to you? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry for double reply...

      But obviously Google is superior to Bing.

      On Google, my post is the #1 result for ant colony differentiation.

      If you use quotes -- "ant colony differentiation" -- it is the only result.

      By virtue of the fact that I consider myself to be the most important person in the world (to me), Google is therefore superior to Bing.

      Case closed.

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  55. Matter of perspective? by psbrogna · · Score: 1

    So the Ants are globalizing as well ... do you think they same the same things about us we say about them? "Damn humans- they're taking over the planet! I've tried to get rid of them but they're so persistent!"

  56. Correction: Matter of perspective? by psbrogna · · Score: 1

    ... SAY the same things about us ...

  57. Phase IV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  58. Roddenberry's inspiration by macraig · · Score: 1

    Wanna know where Gene Roddenberry got his inspiration for the Borg? Look no further than the Argentine ants in California. These critters ARE the Borg. They won't need to build spaceships to own the stars... we'll build them and they'll stow away on them. Next stop, the Gamma Quadrant.

  59. Re:Obligatory quote... 2mph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  60. Obligatory by RomulusNR · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our supercolonized borg ant overlords.

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  61. They're also cheap entertainment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What you do is find two mounds of differing species and drop some sweet morsels equidistant inbetween them. Then you wait for both colonies to find it. I like watching the big red ants vs. the little red ants (piss-ants?). You'd think the big ants would have the advantage over the little ants 1/4 of their size, but as it turns out the little ants are able produce a decent dose of formic acid. Which in ant terms, appears to have the same effect as a person being nailed with pepper spray. So then you get these battles where the big ants get all nervous and occasionally try to tear the small ants in half, only to get nailed with the chemicals from the little ones and run off to the sidelines to recover. Also the little ants tend to be nasty adversaries, quickly grabbing onto the antennae of their opponents and fighting dirty. And amongst this struggle, you'll ocassionally see a large black carpenter ant try to cross the ongoing frenzy and act like "WTF did I just run into?" The carpenter ants usually like the rotten wood and leaf litter stuff, and don't want anything at all to do with the other ants they cross.

  62. Re:We could learn from them by Sinbios · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If not for wars, we'd probably still be in the Stone Age.

    Duct tape? Commissioned by the military. Jet planes? First made by the Luftwaffe. Electronic computers? First made for codebreaking. Nuclear energy? Manhattan project. First man in space? Cold War. The Internet.

    Like it or not, wars have driven at least a significant portion of technological advancement. Ironic that you're complaining on a computer, over the Internet.

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  63. Standardized Humor by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know what's awesome about slashdot? That I could laugh at this post ... before I clicked the story.

    That's the great thing about the Standard Joke Set: Jokes from the Standard Joke Set can be used and enjoyed with minimal related context, and only the simplest of introductions. Because the audience already knows and likes the joke, jokes from the Standard Joke Set never fail to amuse.

    Of course, using Standard Jokes in this way is somewhat suboptimal from a bandwidth utilization standpoint. The joke is shared knowledge, so really all that is needed is some unique way of identifying the joke. One method coming into common use is to simply use the order of the jokes on the Standard Joke List as a numeric identifier. The grandparent post, for instance, could be more optimally represented as simply "#24!" - though unfortunately this compact representation would be disallowed by Slashdot's post filters. (These obsolete rules are therefore in need of revision. As a provisional measure it may be worth introducing the SJS into the "gzip" compression algorithm as globally recognized patterns - that way, the site can stream out a gzip-compressed version of the page and network traffic, at least, will be optimized.)

    It's important to note, however, that the Standard Joke Set is no substitute for being funny. You can't just say "#18!" and expect people to laugh. You need to know how to tell it right.

    (This concludes my presentation of standardized joke #303. You may commence laughter at your convenience.)

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    1. Re:Standardized Humor by Winter · · Score: 1

      Joke #404 - Not Found...

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    2. Re:Standardized Humor by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Joke #403 - NSFW.

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  64. Haskell Style! by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Well, don't forget, the expression (ant.weight *) evaluates to a function which multiplies things by ant.weight. So ((ant.weight *) (50 + ant_comfort_factor)) is still a valid way of expressing the same basic computation.

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  65. simple solution by CristalShandaLear · · Score: 1

    Arm children in the areas with the most problem with magnifying glasses. Battle commences on all sunny days.

    Problem solved.

  66. Re:We could learn from them by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're actually reinforcing Absolut's point. Why should we need war to develop all that cool stuff? Why can't we fund their development on their own merits, rather than as an avenue for killing more people?

    Because we're dumber than ants.

    And the jet engine was actually patented first in England, almost ten years before WW2 began. The Germans were the first to put it into a production aircraft.

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  67. Megacolony? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Covering the world? Shouldn't we call it a teracolony?

  68. Ants achieve world peace... by formfeed · · Score: 0
    Ants achieve world peace, while the slimy bipeds ( or homo sapiens, as they call themselves) miserably fail at it.

    The whole head-line is of course indicative of the way you "people" see the world: "Mega-colony". It's "world peace", for queen's sake!

    I, for one, not only welcome our new insect overlords, but want to assure you that I have been on your side all along.

  69. Re:We could learn from them by city · · Score: 1

    Oh just wait, they'll start fighting too... just give them the time to go through their natural resources without anywhere left to spread to (and it seems they are approaching that point). Unless of course they hitch a ride to Mars and have it terraformed before we do, then I'll agree with you.

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  70. Speaking as someone who has used both: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Duct tape" is any of a number of tapes intended for stopping HVAC leaks or joining sections. The best kind is made of aluminum metal, the lamest kind is the silvery plastic stuff with thin straight fibers, in the middle is what most people call "duct tape" or "duck tape" - silvery plastic with thicker, loosely laid fibers in a thick, waterproof adhesive base.

    "Duck tape" is US Army issued tape made from green or black duck cloth, with various thicknesses of cloth and various types of adhesives. The best kind is "five hundred mile an hour tape", the lamest kind has water-soluble adhesive (but is impossible to tell from waterproof tape without sticking it in water).

    "Duck brand duct tape" is some guys who think they are funny.

  71. Re:We could learn from them by vampire_baozi · · Score: 1

    On the contrary, wars and competition have fueled human innovation. The need to become more technologically advanced than the country next door fueled science for much of history. Religion (which I personally don't like) helped inspire early mathematics and physics, as astronomy was the the root of much early mathematics (here, religion played the role of the false hypothesis that was proved wrong by rigorous inquiry).

    But as much as war sucks, the drive to dominate through war has probably speeded up human development. The Chinese considered themselves as the Middle Kingdom, with only culturally and scientifically inferior countries surrounding them. They invented gunpowder and the trebuchet, and used them as toys as entertainment, for what need did they have to go on conquering inferior kingdoms? Noone to fear, and thus no pressing need to invest resources into perfecting new weapons to upset the status quo. Once the Arabs got a look at these Chinese toys, they figured out fairly quickly they could be used to knock walls down. Once they started tinkering around and knocking walls down, the Europeans had to figure out how to A) build better walls B) knock walls down better.

    On the other hand, Europe and the Arab world were constantly in an arms race. The Renaissance may not have occurred had the fall of Constantinople not kicked all those Greek scholars out of (former) Byzantium. DARPA wouldn't have gotten the funding needed for the internet without the Cold War; indeed, space exploration was initially a pissing contest between the US and USSR.

  72. soapy water works even better. by vaporland · · Score: 1

    ants hate soap. if you make a solution of dish detergent and water and spread the liquid across an ant trail, even just a damp paper towel's worth, they will not cross it.

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  73. Get ready for phase four. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070531/

  74. New ant order by Optimus6128 · · Score: 1

    Oh no! Sounds like ant globalizaton..

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  75. Re:We could learn from them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah yes, the war, world's only hygiene. You're one of those who get tasks from the military as I normally don't expect computer enthusiasts to read Marinetti or Kurt Eggers.

    What you guys tend to forget is the scientific boost we get from genocides.

    I never caught any of you praising the holocaust for IBM or Unit 731 for the advances in pharmacology.

    Nevertheless you guys creep me out.

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