The thing is, he will eventually have to login again. While my connection is really stable, sometimes ssh session just breaks or you have to reboot your windows. Or your connection could break for a few seconds and that already breaks it.
You're looking at max 2-3 weeks session time anyway.
There is no better way. You have to keep sure you are secure to both.
The only thing we can say here is that if your computer is physically secured (you can log out to login screen and leave the sessions running, and encrypt your hdds), it doesn't matter if you leave your session running or not. Your ISP can't "sniff that handshaking" and go on without you getting a security warning. If you do, you just wont accept the connection and try to solve what's going on. Just remember to log out after leaving from computer.
If NSA or some other organization had a way to break into your SSH session and they cared to use it against you (with the risk of that info leaking), then you have much larger problems than worrying about if you should leave ssh sessions open or reconnect.
Exactly. Cooperation should be kept inside company, and fight with competition with other companies. Work together, but have enemies that push you to work better. Sadly, people are people and mostly care about their own goals.
Well one that I could think of from recently is Microsoft Courier. It seems quite innovative and the tablet I would like to have (iPad.. just meh). I really hope it becomes reality and the things TFA mentions don't happen to it. Then I could actually say MS innovates.
It's not just that they can look at your data now, but in future too. World and politics can change really fast, especially now that US is having economical problems.
And what about other governments? Would it be good for example Google and Microsoft have a police-backdoor in China?
And the fact is, they can already subpoena data from companies and companies already have to maintain data for long time. This is just expending it ever longer, which is really worrying, coupled with the police-backdoors (imagine the fun when one of those gets hacked).
A entire OS and IDE for a glorified vibrator seems like overkill if you ask me.
Not if you really think about it.
If we all worked together to develop, test and maintain the best possible vibrator in the world, imagine how many girls we would get. If anything, this is what FOSS community should pick up and work on. Girls would be breaking in from doors and windows just to test our thing, and would be so pleased with the experience they would be coming back all the time.
What we need is WiFi, 3G (for doing it on-the-road), some app that gathers statistics and log data for optimization development and lastly, test subjects.
Since Nokia is phone manufacturer itself and main supporter of Symbian, I really hope they open source their drivers for different phones too. Nokia is already moving in that direction with Qt and it doesn't impact their main business as a phone manufacturer. Only problem would be if those drivers use licensed patents from other manufacturers though.
Android being open source is practically useless because you cannot get drivers for any phone. Sure you can see the OS code and tinker around it (if you are able to get overly complex development environment set up), but you are unable to use it on your phone or do pretty much anything with it. It's only good for phone manufacturers.
If Nokia also were to release drivers for their phones, this would be huge victory against Android.
Well to be fair, they are somewhat correct. While I don't like the clunky browsing withing steam or the in-game overlay, switching over to other engine would be a lot of work and testing to Valve and could create even more problems to users. And that's all while the browser component is a side thing.
For example IE and it's embedded component is supported on all versions of Windows. If Steam were to integrate their own browsing engine, they would have to make sure it works for 100% of users and they would have to maintain it. IE works in all situations as long as it already works for the user (which is pretty much every case) and the component gets updated along when user updates IE.
While I myself care a lot about standards, I don't see why an average gamer would do so. It already works well enough and is stable, so there's little to gain over the amount of added work it would put on Valve. I'm not even sure if any browser engine including Webkit can draw on DirectX surface anyway - they would have to the draw window contents to bitmap -> transfer to texture -> draw on DX surface anyway.
Because none of the browsers you listed are as easily configured enterprise wide as IE is with group policies.
Exactly. This is a thing OSS developers usually miss. They develop primarily for home users or single users and have no idea how it works in work place, while MS understands a need for enterprise solutions.
It doesn't work like that. There are billions of sites on the internet. If your site doesn't work with them, they go somewhere else. And it would be quite stupid to ignore a browser that holds the largest market share. Sad, but true.
To add to this - the company I work at works with German companies using English, but we had to hire someone knowing Russian to work with them as it was impossible otherwise.
The reason I'm saying this is that when I was in Germany, everyone spoke good English so you got around. Of course, if you're going to work in a German company, then it's good to know German language, but generally you get around there with English and can work with German companies just with plain English.
On the other hand, while I was living in Russia pretty much no one could understand English. For the first months I got around just by sign language there (ie. cashier in store asked - which I learned the first time - if I wanted a pack, and I raised index finger to get one:). In kiosks I had to point at things from shells I wanted to buy. When I once bought multiple items, a local guy who knew a little bit English had to come translate the total price to me. While it was totally possible to get around like that in normal life (maybe annoying the locals), it's not going to work in business world.
On that regard, I don't think it makes any sense for me to learn Arabic or Korean and so on. It pretty much comes to what different people need in their path in life. German might be good to learn to someone, but you never know what is until you actually need it. Maybe I sometime need those languages I think are really obscure now. Life changes a lot along the way.
I agree it's not as simple as raw numbers, but other factors complicate it even more. For example most of German people I know are very fluent with English. If you need to work with them, you can just use English and they will too. In other hand, generally Chinese, French and Russian is different matter (from the good economic and scientific countries and where it makes sense to do business).
The cost-to-benefit ratio is a lot better for those countries because generally you can't work good with plain English, but with for example German people you can.
While I did a little bit exaggerate there (Google has seriously opened up some cool techs), the fact that they're sometimes only partly opened them (which I understand, they need to hold to their main business), the fact that Google is financially mostly supported by advertising and the fact they're wanting to be everywhere makes it a little bit worrying. And how the press releases always state how everything should be open sourced, but never mention that Google itself doesn't like to open source the parts that are within their business.
That imo is also the reason why Google can support open sourcing a lot in general. It doesn't interfere with their main business and helps to fight with their (mostly closed source) competitors.
But what comes to TFA, the guy was ready to work with Google to put those patches in the main Linux kernel, and I think it would be reasonable to do so. I agree that theres a lot of overhead in publishing code to open source, but there are people who are willing to help doing it for free.
Uh patent trolling? Nokia is one of the companies that actually deserve any patent they hold. They have spent millions in generating the mobile technology we all use today.
Btw, your signature having a link to your money making "iPhone app reviews" website kind of makes you biased.
That would be the case if it was completely different business model. But Google's business model allows them to generate cash almost endlessly as long as they keep gaining users and keep advertisers happy. In top of that, they are kind-of an technology company so developing OS that also improves their business model is like finding a gold pot at end of the rainbow. It means Google works hard to get themselves everywhere where they can and to every person on the planet. Compare that to Linux which is mostly used in server environments or on some geeks desktop. Of course companies are going to jump the Google bandwagon because it sounds so lucrative.
That's also why the companies supporting Linux are so far between. Every different combination of things in different distros is making it hell to develop for, especially now that Google is taking the base kernel apart. It requires so much extra work that companies don't like to do it for what they get out of it.
Eh, trolling much? If you look outside US, Nokia is dominating. iPhone is nowhere as successful as it is in US. In top of that, Nokia holds patents (that they really deserve) over many technologies used with GSM, 3G and so on.
And Nokia offers a real Linux phone, not just Android or locked-down iPhone shit.
Uh, both Symbian, iPhone and Windows mobile dominate that field. Sure Android (not linux! expect for some Nokia phones) is getting there some, but it's still far away.
Just fyi, Android != Linux, especially after these recent changes.
I wonder if this is related to Russian gas and their tricks in selling it to Europe and Eastern Europe. It's a long tradition they always try something in the winter, as they did this year too, and most of Europe depends on it.
As I said, the only groups being hurt by this are Google and those dumb enough to rely on Android for their future, anyone else with a brain will take a look at the competition and more open platforms.
Is that why we already succeeded at Year Of Linux On Desktop back in 2003?
The only group it's harming is Google and those companies dumb enough to buy into Android for their future.
Google has a major advantage here as one of the largest companies in the world, and those companies "dumb enough" are going to jump on Google's side because they have the market share.
Because Google doesn't have their code merged into the mainline, these companies creating drivers and platform code are locked out from ever contributing it back to the kernel community.
Google shows no sign of working to get their code upstream anymore.
Oh come on, was it really a surprise to anyone that Google does only care about OSS when it suits them and drops out instantly when it doesn't. All of their own sites, business and back-end technology is just as closed as Microsoft's.
I see someone coming along and saying "but they contribute to open source!". Sure, they do, they release little snippets of code and open source those products they base on OSS code because they have to by GPL. One could seriously argue if their open sourcing efforts are making better open source community in general, or not. Like TFA states, their ignorance has caused more turmoil than ever before in Linux land. Companies are obviously going to create support and drivers for Android-branch of Linux kernel, but cant contribute the same code back to real Linux kernel. And possibly never will because it costs them too much work, money and time. Even those companies that previously did develop linux drivers. That's not harming Linux and OSS community?
Get off your lazy ass and see what's really happening.
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The thing is, he will eventually have to login again. While my connection is really stable, sometimes ssh session just breaks or you have to reboot your windows. Or your connection could break for a few seconds and that already breaks it.
You're looking at max 2-3 weeks session time anyway.
There is no better way. You have to keep sure you are secure to both.
Exactly.
The only thing we can say here is that if your computer is physically secured (you can log out to login screen and leave the sessions running, and encrypt your hdds), it doesn't matter if you leave your session running or not. Your ISP can't "sniff that handshaking" and go on without you getting a security warning. If you do, you just wont accept the connection and try to solve what's going on. Just remember to log out after leaving from computer.
If NSA or some other organization had a way to break into your SSH session and they cared to use it against you (with the risk of that info leaking), then you have much larger problems than worrying about if you should leave ssh sessions open or reconnect.
Exactly. Cooperation should be kept inside company, and fight with competition with other companies. Work together, but have enemies that push you to work better. Sadly, people are people and mostly care about their own goals.
Well one that I could think of from recently is Microsoft Courier. It seems quite innovative and the tablet I would like to have (iPad.. just meh). I really hope it becomes reality and the things TFA mentions don't happen to it. Then I could actually say MS innovates.
We need a revolution, that's all. Democracy isn't ruling the US -- politicians are. And politicians are nowhere near what we need.
Once again, we need a revolution. We need to take control. We must take control and save the US.
Fixed that for you.
However, while we here have fairly good democratic system, most people are idiots.
It's not just that they can look at your data now, but in future too. World and politics can change really fast, especially now that US is having economical problems.
And what about other governments? Would it be good for example Google and Microsoft have a police-backdoor in China?
And the fact is, they can already subpoena data from companies and companies already have to maintain data for long time. This is just expending it ever longer, which is really worrying, coupled with the police-backdoors (imagine the fun when one of those gets hacked).
A entire OS and IDE for a glorified vibrator seems like overkill if you ask me.
Not if you really think about it.
If we all worked together to develop, test and maintain the best possible vibrator in the world, imagine how many girls we would get. If anything, this is what FOSS community should pick up and work on. Girls would be breaking in from doors and windows just to test our thing, and would be so pleased with the experience they would be coming back all the time.
What we need is WiFi, 3G (for doing it on-the-road), some app that gathers statistics and log data for optimization development and lastly, test subjects.
Since Nokia is phone manufacturer itself and main supporter of Symbian, I really hope they open source their drivers for different phones too. Nokia is already moving in that direction with Qt and it doesn't impact their main business as a phone manufacturer. Only problem would be if those drivers use licensed patents from other manufacturers though.
Android being open source is practically useless because you cannot get drivers for any phone. Sure you can see the OS code and tinker around it (if you are able to get overly complex development environment set up), but you are unable to use it on your phone or do pretty much anything with it. It's only good for phone manufacturers.
If Nokia also were to release drivers for their phones, this would be huge victory against Android.
Well to be fair, they are somewhat correct. While I don't like the clunky browsing withing steam or the in-game overlay, switching over to other engine would be a lot of work and testing to Valve and could create even more problems to users. And that's all while the browser component is a side thing.
For example IE and it's embedded component is supported on all versions of Windows. If Steam were to integrate their own browsing engine, they would have to make sure it works for 100% of users and they would have to maintain it. IE works in all situations as long as it already works for the user (which is pretty much every case) and the component gets updated along when user updates IE.
While I myself care a lot about standards, I don't see why an average gamer would do so. It already works well enough and is stable, so there's little to gain over the amount of added work it would put on Valve. I'm not even sure if any browser engine including Webkit can draw on DirectX surface anyway - they would have to the draw window contents to bitmap -> transfer to texture -> draw on DX surface anyway.
Because none of the browsers you listed are as easily configured enterprise wide as IE is with group policies.
Exactly. This is a thing OSS developers usually miss. They develop primarily for home users or single users and have no idea how it works in work place, while MS understands a need for enterprise solutions.
It doesn't work like that. There are billions of sites on the internet. If your site doesn't work with them, they go somewhere else. And it would be quite stupid to ignore a browser that holds the largest market share. Sad, but true.
If a site needs IE today, I don't need that particular site.
Good luck trying to tell that to your boss.
To add to this - the company I work at works with German companies using English, but we had to hire someone knowing Russian to work with them as it was impossible otherwise.
The reason I'm saying this is that when I was in Germany, everyone spoke good English so you got around. Of course, if you're going to work in a German company, then it's good to know German language, but generally you get around there with English and can work with German companies just with plain English.
On the other hand, while I was living in Russia pretty much no one could understand English. For the first months I got around just by sign language there (ie. cashier in store asked - which I learned the first time - if I wanted a pack, and I raised index finger to get one :). In kiosks I had to point at things from shells I wanted to buy. When I once bought multiple items, a local guy who knew a little bit English had to come translate the total price to me. While it was totally possible to get around like that in normal life (maybe annoying the locals), it's not going to work in business world.
On that regard, I don't think it makes any sense for me to learn Arabic or Korean and so on. It pretty much comes to what different people need in their path in life. German might be good to learn to someone, but you never know what is until you actually need it. Maybe I sometime need those languages I think are really obscure now. Life changes a lot along the way.
I agree it's not as simple as raw numbers, but other factors complicate it even more. For example most of German people I know are very fluent with English. If you need to work with them, you can just use English and they will too. In other hand, generally Chinese, French and Russian is different matter (from the good economic and scientific countries and where it makes sense to do business).
The cost-to-benefit ratio is a lot better for those countries because generally you can't work good with plain English, but with for example German people you can.
While I did a little bit exaggerate there (Google has seriously opened up some cool techs), the fact that they're sometimes only partly opened them (which I understand, they need to hold to their main business), the fact that Google is financially mostly supported by advertising and the fact they're wanting to be everywhere makes it a little bit worrying. And how the press releases always state how everything should be open sourced, but never mention that Google itself doesn't like to open source the parts that are within their business.
That imo is also the reason why Google can support open sourcing a lot in general. It doesn't interfere with their main business and helps to fight with their (mostly closed source) competitors.
But what comes to TFA, the guy was ready to work with Google to put those patches in the main Linux kernel, and I think it would be reasonable to do so. I agree that theres a lot of overhead in publishing code to open source, but there are people who are willing to help doing it for free.
Uh patent trolling? Nokia is one of the companies that actually deserve any patent they hold. They have spent millions in generating the mobile technology we all use today.
Btw, your signature having a link to your money making "iPhone app reviews" website kind of makes you biased.
That would be the case if it was completely different business model. But Google's business model allows them to generate cash almost endlessly as long as they keep gaining users and keep advertisers happy. In top of that, they are kind-of an technology company so developing OS that also improves their business model is like finding a gold pot at end of the rainbow. It means Google works hard to get themselves everywhere where they can and to every person on the planet. Compare that to Linux which is mostly used in server environments or on some geeks desktop. Of course companies are going to jump the Google bandwagon because it sounds so lucrative.
That's also why the companies supporting Linux are so far between. Every different combination of things in different distros is making it hell to develop for, especially now that Google is taking the base kernel apart. It requires so much extra work that companies don't like to do it for what they get out of it.
Eh, trolling much? If you look outside US, Nokia is dominating. iPhone is nowhere as successful as it is in US. In top of that, Nokia holds patents (that they really deserve) over many technologies used with GSM, 3G and so on.
And Nokia offers a real Linux phone, not just Android or locked-down iPhone shit.
Uh, both Symbian, iPhone and Windows mobile dominate that field. Sure Android (not linux! expect for some Nokia phones) is getting there some, but it's still far away.
Just fyi, Android != Linux, especially after these recent changes.
I wonder if this is related to Russian gas and their tricks in selling it to Europe and Eastern Europe. It's a long tradition they always try something in the winter, as they did this year too, and most of Europe depends on it.
As I said, the only groups being hurt by this are Google and those dumb enough to rely on Android for their future, anyone else with a brain will take a look at the competition and more open platforms.
Is that why we already succeeded at Year Of Linux On Desktop back in 2003?
The only group it's harming is Google and those companies dumb enough to buy into Android for their future.
Google has a major advantage here as one of the largest companies in the world, and those companies "dumb enough" are going to jump on Google's side because they have the market share.
Because Google doesn't have their code merged into the mainline, these companies creating drivers and platform code are locked out from ever contributing it back to the kernel community.
Google shows no sign of working to get their code upstream anymore.
Oh come on, was it really a surprise to anyone that Google does only care about OSS when it suits them and drops out instantly when it doesn't. All of their own sites, business and back-end technology is just as closed as Microsoft's.
I see someone coming along and saying "but they contribute to open source!". Sure, they do, they release little snippets of code and open source those products they base on OSS code because they have to by GPL. One could seriously argue if their open sourcing efforts are making better open source community in general, or not. Like TFA states, their ignorance has caused more turmoil than ever before in Linux land. Companies are obviously going to create support and drivers for Android-branch of Linux kernel, but cant contribute the same code back to real Linux kernel. And possibly never will because it costs them too much work, money and time. Even those companies that previously did develop linux drivers. That's not harming Linux and OSS community?
Get off your lazy ass and see what's really happening.