The real problem that this sort of judgement will create is the difficulty in prosecuting someone for child porn goes through the roof. Now police don't only have to prove that you have child porn in your posession, but they must now also prove that the kiddie porn is REAL. Imagine the headache this is going to create. This sort of judgement opens the doors for kiddie porn distribution. Now web sites can post 'All models that aren't over the age of 18 are actually digitally created' and get away with posting all sorts of obscene child pornography. How can you prove that a digital image is real and not fabricated????
I think the previous post meant to refer to supported hardware that has drivers already available with the distro. after putting linux on two of my desktops and my notebook i totally agree that if you have a distro without the drivers for some of your hardware components, installation is horrendous. i'm sure there are linux guru's out there that will disagree with me, but its not easy. unfortunately most manufacturers produce computers with windows supported parts 'standard.' this means that if you look to install windows, you don't have to search for custom drivers (and if the drivers aren't 'standard' in windows, a driver diskette is usually included). this fact means that windows installation *is* easier because hardwarde manufacturers go to lengths to make sure the process is as painless as possible. there is no correlation for linux (unless you buy a computer with linux pre installed).
i don't think the indictment was only for owning L0phtcrack, the contentious issue is that the perpetrator installed L0phtcrack on a system to which he had gained illegal access. charging someone for owning a security tool and using it on thier system is one thing. installing it on a remote system though is more than a bit suspicious.
Oh puleeeze you have got to be joking here! you really need to bone up on the case and rpg's in general before saying something this moronic.
no wait, you're right, i learned how to use a shotgun from doom, oh and DnD taught me Satan worshipping. man, if it hadn't been for the R.Talsorian game Cyberpunk i never would have learned how to hack.
ignorance is not bliss when you impose it on others!
in 1st addition ADnD there were str limits for female characters depending on race. they ditched this sytem in 2nd (and much crappier in my opinion) edition. i don't think basic had any strength limits based on gender though. i personally never play females in online gaming. i have no idea why. i have also known guys who play women obsessively, mostly because they had idealized women and saw them as better (don't ask me why). in the end it all comes down to personal experience though, but more importantly, who the hell funded this study???? i need a new computer system and some sucker out there sounds dumb enough to give me money for it (uh, yeah, i'm gonna see if i can rack up more frags on Q3 as a woman, see if men are more reluctant to commit cyber violence against females...:)
ok, i never read the newspaper and today i sat down and pondered why. well, first off i read the economist weekly to get an indepth round up and analysis of weekly news, but the fact of the matter is, why would i read a daily? i can get all my information free on the internet. i don't mean just free of charge, but free of influence. i can go on line and get all the undiluted associated press releases that newspaper reports crud up with thier own opinion and misinformation. i'm also free of whatever corporate bias any specific newspaper has. i'm very wary of media hype and deliberate misinformation. most newspapers are corporate beasts and accurate information isn't always in thier interest. so why don't i read newspapers? because information wants to be free.
you know, i'm new to slashdot, but i've noticed a lot of people flaming jon katz without even bothering to evaluate his positions. i'd just like to say that as a person with an MA in US history, mr. katz is providing us all with an invaluable service. before flaming katz you all should realize that he's writing your epitaph. when historians come back 20-30 years from now looking at the origins of open source, the geek ascention, net culture, they're going to look heavily to katz. his ruminations about the net provide a very valuable insight into a cultural and technological phenomena that is shaking the very roots of our history. its time people begin realizing that although katz may not be a programming expert, he knows his stuff. he's cataloging this amazing thing that we're all shaping and being shaped by. keep that in mind next time before flaming him for using a microsoft product. future generations probably won't have any use for your wonderfully brilliant script, but katz is going to go down in history as our representative and chronicler, give him some respect and try to contribute something he can use.
it is my understanding that this study shows that people who use the internet are less likely to have lots of face to face contact with other people. this does not mean that the internet causes loneliness (as the media would like to spin it). i think there is probably less opportunity to interact with other people face to face if you're online, but so what??? so our society and human interaction is changing? i agree with the other threads that using the internet does not equate to loneliness. this is just another attempt by people who don't understand the technology to cast it in a bad light (a trend that is becoming all too common these days).
i just bought suse 6.3, and after installing, uninstalling, partitioning and eventually running OpenLinux with Win98 on the same machine, i felt quite confident in my ability to install linux. little did i know. 6.3 comes on a dvd packed with so many installations that my 6 gig HD couldn't hold them all. eventually i resorted to installing the default package and nothing else, figuring i could upgrade later. well after over 18 hours with yast and yast2 i still could not get kde configured to run properly. after 3 e-mails to tech support (i paid $50 for that priveledge) rereading the hundreds of pages long manual, purchasing SuSE 6.2 for dummies and SuSE Unleashed, i still couldn't solve my configuration problems (although i had narrowed it down to a hardware problem with my video card (surprise surprise)). i had checked the distribution box though, and my video card was listed as supported hardware. just as i was about to give up the ever handy altavista came to my rescue (after running across several distressing discussion posts from people with my same problem) with an obscure link to my video card (ati rage 128). turns out the link led to the SuSE support archives and low and behold i found out that "unfortunately the X server [for the ati card] is missing on the US version of SuSE Linux 6.3" but i could download the driver (xrage.rpm). after all of this i definately not recommend SuSE to the faint of heart. although my problem may be obscure, i still have gotten no response from tech support, and their only US number is long distance. buyer be warned i guess.
i'd like to compliment RSH on a very lucid argument. hackers can't alter any system who's programming doesn't allow them to. i guess the counterpoint i've heard to this is that most hackers gain access illegally, then change systems to allow them future access and write priveledges. an example of this would be a brute force login. i mean, there really is no legitimate reason for randomly trying usernames and passwords to get into a system. although the system is designed to let certain users have access, it is the hacker who spoofs these users to gain illegal access. the programming 'does' allow the hacker access, but i think there is definately an argument that the hacker 'should not' exploit this access.
>open source is legalized warez....that way..you >wont have to steal anything...its just givin to >you(lazy ass) ok, not to provoke a flame war here, but doesn't the term warez refer to pirated software. ok, and about the lazy ass part, i don't see how my downloading a warez prog or an opensource prog is any lazier or more difficult. i dig on the hostility though, it just oozes prepubescence.
i think its hillarious that these so called "warez" sites actually stay up. warez are in fact very easy to come by online, but you don't use websites (ok, i admit it, i was once a warez pup, but i'm getting better, i'm on step 3 and i've reformatted my HD) you check for annonymous FTP sites. well how do you find these sites you may ask? well you have to scan the newsgroups, most notably alt.2600.warez. they keep an up to date and running list of annonymous ftp's that members maintain. all you have to do is download bulletproof or any other ftp prog and you too can have a copy of quake III or dreamweaver on your hard drive. and all of that without annoying banners, pop ups, or any web surfing whatsoever. so how do these sites attract visitors, i'd like to blame aol:)
i'm not very inclined to agree with such doomsday sentiment. i think the net can police itself. stopping a DoS isn't impossible, but it takes skilled and attentive sysadmins. i also think that when somebody comes bragging about shutting down yahoo and pissing off a whole lot of people (hax0rs and otherwise) they're likely to suffer some inconveniences of thier own.
whoa, someone forgot to take thier meds this morning. maybe a couple years of "re-education" would teach this guy the glories of communism. long live capitalism (because i care about your profits and mine:)
why do most of us figure DoS is done by a bunch of kids (read script kiddies at least). well, because DoS is just randomly destructive and doesn't really accomplish anything. for those who would say kiddies couldn't learn to DoS, all you have to do is download the prog, or if you're an especially bright 13 year old, read about it in www.happyhacker.org.
actually i think wired says that the router was misconfigured in an attempt to stop the DoS and that only exaserbated the problem, but the router wasn't the source of the problem. What i don't understand is why would anyone do this? its the digital equivelant of mailbox baseball. script kiddies are such a pain...
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The real problem that this sort of judgement will create is the difficulty in prosecuting someone for child porn goes through the roof. Now police don't only have to prove that you have child porn in your posession, but they must now also prove that the kiddie porn is REAL. Imagine the headache this is going to create. This sort of judgement opens the doors for kiddie porn distribution. Now web sites can post 'All models that aren't over the age of 18 are actually digitally created' and get away with posting all sorts of obscene child pornography. How can you prove that a digital image is real and not fabricated????
I think the previous post meant to refer to supported hardware that has drivers already available with the distro. after putting linux on two of my desktops and my notebook i totally agree that if you have a distro without the drivers for some of your hardware components, installation is horrendous. i'm sure there are linux guru's out there that will disagree with me, but its not easy. unfortunately most manufacturers produce computers with windows supported parts 'standard.' this means that if you look to install windows, you don't have to search for custom drivers (and if the drivers aren't 'standard' in windows, a driver diskette is usually included). this fact means that windows installation *is* easier because hardwarde manufacturers go to lengths to make sure the process is as painless as possible. there is no correlation for linux (unless you buy a computer with linux pre installed).
i don't think the indictment was only for owning L0phtcrack, the contentious issue is that the perpetrator installed L0phtcrack on a system to which he had gained illegal access. charging someone for owning a security tool and using it on thier system is one thing. installing it on a remote system though is more than a bit suspicious.
Oh puleeeze
you have got to be joking here! you really need to bone up on the case and rpg's in general before saying something this moronic.
no wait, you're right, i learned how to use a shotgun from doom, oh and DnD taught me Satan worshipping. man, if it hadn't been for the R.Talsorian game Cyberpunk i never would have learned how to hack.
ignorance is not bliss when you impose it on others!
in 1st addition ADnD there were str limits for female characters depending on race. they ditched this sytem in 2nd (and much crappier in my opinion) edition. i don't think basic had any strength limits based on gender though. i personally never play females in online gaming. i have no idea why. i have also known guys who play women obsessively, mostly because they had idealized women and saw them as better (don't ask me why). in the end it all comes down to personal experience though, but more importantly, who the hell funded this study???? i need a new computer system and some sucker out there sounds dumb enough to give me money for it (uh, yeah, i'm gonna see if i can rack up more frags on Q3 as a woman, see if men are more reluctant to commit cyber violence against females... :)
ok, i never read the newspaper and today i sat down and pondered why. well, first off i read the economist weekly to get an indepth round up and analysis of weekly news, but the fact of the matter is, why would i read a daily? i can get all my information free on the internet. i don't mean just free of charge, but free of influence. i can go on line and get all the undiluted associated press releases that newspaper reports crud up with thier own opinion and misinformation. i'm also free of whatever corporate bias any specific newspaper has. i'm very wary of media hype and deliberate misinformation. most newspapers are corporate beasts and accurate information isn't always in thier interest. so why don't i read newspapers? because information wants to be free.
you know, i'm new to slashdot, but i've noticed a lot of people flaming jon katz without even bothering to evaluate his positions. i'd just like to say that as a person with an MA in US history, mr. katz is providing us all with an invaluable service. before flaming katz you all should realize that he's writing your epitaph. when historians come back 20-30 years from now looking at the origins of open source, the geek ascention, net culture, they're going to look heavily to katz. his ruminations about the net provide a very valuable insight into a cultural and technological phenomena that is shaking the very roots of our history. its time people begin realizing that although katz may not be a programming expert, he knows his stuff. he's cataloging this amazing thing that we're all shaping and being shaped by. keep that in mind next time before flaming him for using a microsoft product. future generations probably won't have any use for your wonderfully brilliant script, but katz is going to go down in history as our representative and chronicler, give him some respect and try to contribute something he can use.
it is my understanding that this study shows that people who use the internet are less likely to have lots of face to face contact with other people. this does not mean that the internet causes loneliness (as the media would like to spin it). i think there is probably less opportunity to interact with other people face to face if you're online, but so what??? so our society and human interaction is changing? i agree with the other threads that using the internet does not equate to loneliness. this is just another attempt by people who don't understand the technology to cast it in a bad light (a trend that is becoming all too common these days).
i just bought suse 6.3, and after installing, uninstalling, partitioning and eventually running OpenLinux with Win98 on the same machine, i felt quite confident in my ability to install linux. little did i know. 6.3 comes on a dvd packed with so many installations that my 6 gig HD couldn't hold them all. eventually i resorted to installing the default package and nothing else, figuring i could upgrade later. well after over 18 hours with yast and yast2 i still could not get kde configured to run properly. after 3 e-mails to tech support (i paid $50 for that priveledge) rereading the hundreds of pages long manual, purchasing SuSE 6.2 for dummies and SuSE Unleashed, i still couldn't solve my configuration problems (although i had narrowed it down to a hardware problem with my video card (surprise surprise)). i had checked the distribution box though, and my video card was listed as supported hardware. just as i was about to give up the ever handy altavista came to my rescue (after running across several distressing discussion posts from people with my same problem) with an obscure link to my video card (ati rage 128). turns out the link led to the SuSE support archives and low and behold i found out that "unfortunately the X server [for the ati card] is missing on the US version of SuSE Linux 6.3" but i could download the driver (xrage.rpm). after all of this i definately not recommend SuSE to the faint of heart. although my problem may be obscure, i still have gotten no response from tech support, and their only US number is long distance. buyer be warned i guess.
i'd like to compliment RSH on a very lucid argument. hackers can't alter any system who's programming doesn't allow them to. i guess the counterpoint i've heard to this is that most hackers gain access illegally, then change systems to allow them future access and write priveledges. an example of this would be a brute force login. i mean, there really is no legitimate reason for randomly trying usernames and passwords to get into a system. although the system is designed to let certain users have access, it is the hacker who spoofs these users to gain illegal access. the programming 'does' allow the hacker access, but i think there is definately an argument that the hacker 'should not' exploit this access.
>open source is legalized warez....that way..you >wont have to steal anything...its just givin to >you(lazy ass) ok, not to provoke a flame war here, but doesn't the term warez refer to pirated software. ok, and about the lazy ass part, i don't see how my downloading a warez prog or an opensource prog is any lazier or more difficult. i dig on the hostility though, it just oozes prepubescence.
i think its hillarious that these so called "warez" sites actually stay up. warez are in fact very easy to come by online, but you don't use websites (ok, i admit it, i was once a warez pup, but i'm getting better, i'm on step 3 and i've reformatted my HD) you check for annonymous FTP sites. well how do you find these sites you may ask? well you have to scan the newsgroups, most notably alt.2600.warez. they keep an up to date and running list of annonymous ftp's that members maintain. all you have to do is download bulletproof or any other ftp prog and you too can have a copy of quake III or dreamweaver on your hard drive. and all of that without annoying banners, pop ups, or any web surfing whatsoever. so how do these sites attract visitors, i'd like to blame aol :)
i'm not very inclined to agree with such doomsday sentiment. i think the net can police itself. stopping a DoS isn't impossible, but it takes skilled and attentive sysadmins. i also think that when somebody comes bragging about shutting down yahoo and pissing off a whole lot of people (hax0rs and otherwise) they're likely to suffer some inconveniences of thier own.
whoa, someone forgot to take thier meds this morning. maybe a couple years of "re-education" would teach this guy the glories of communism. long live capitalism (because i care about your profits and mine :)
why do most of us figure DoS is done by a bunch of kids (read script kiddies at least). well, because DoS is just randomly destructive and doesn't really accomplish anything. for those who would say kiddies couldn't learn to DoS, all you have to do is download the prog, or if you're an especially bright 13 year old, read about it in www.happyhacker.org.
actually i think wired says that the router was misconfigured in an attempt to stop the DoS and that only exaserbated the problem, but the router wasn't the source of the problem. What i don't understand is why would anyone do this? its the digital equivelant of mailbox baseball. script kiddies are such a pain...
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