New Washing Machine: $700 (for a really nice one).
New Gulf Stream 650: $70 million (for a mid range version) - well over $10 billion in sales last year.
Now you tell me, how many people does one Gulfstream jet support (including designers, mechanics, assembly workers, managers, avionic designers, testers, skilled craftsmen (nice tables, they have, all cherry veneer), salesmen, maintenance depots, on and on and on).
And how many does your single washer support?
And don't forget...those evil tax breaks were passed by your Democratic buddies specifically to stimulate the manufacture and sale of these jets.
Making it more expensive for someone purchase and use anything just because YOU somehow think it's unfair that they can, is stupid.
His statements regarding this were couched in terms that portrayed those who buy and use private jets as selfish and financially foolish. His implications were clear. If you couldn’t see it then you need to pay more attention.
And if your purchase of a single washing machine literally supported hundreds of jobs, then I bet you would get a tax break for buying one too.
He's already threatened mine. In fact, I could make an argument he got me laid off.
I work in Aerospace at a company that manufactures interior fittings for private jets. Essentially we pimp them out.
When Obama first opened his Pie Hole about how corporations should not be buying these jets, within two weeks we had nearly 60% of our orders canceled as the jet builders like Gulfstream, Falcon, etc. had their orders canceled or placed on hold. With one Class Warfare speech he helped put thousands of people out of work.
Now, a year later I'm back with the same company and sure enough DipShit opens his PieHole again trying to demonize jet owners. We saw a 15% decrease in orders this time. I guess people realize he's just talking out of his ass.
Private jets, yachts, expensive cars, etc. are no different than dishwashers, washers, dryers, TVs, etc. They are luxuries that people pay for and the industries that build these things support thousands of jobs. In fact, in our industry, it’s almost 100% U.S. jobs, and well paying jobs at that.
People bitch and moan about how "rich people" and corporations have their money locked up and are not hiring, yet when they engage in commerce with that very same money, purchasing high end goods that end up paying for many, many salaries, they are demonized by this POS POTUS.
"Just remember, this is the United States of America. We write 80 million checks a month. There are millions and millions of Americans that depend on those checks coming on time," Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner
...walking (booted) out the door. In 5 years NASA couldn't launch a shuttle even if they took Atlantis, mothballed it and all the facilities because no one will know how to do it anymore.
When they started working on Ares they had to send engineers out to look at the Saturn 5 rocket in Houston to try to rediscover its technology because all of the institutional knowledge was gone. And even after that, they killed it.
Imagine what it must be like to be an engineer at NASA...”work on this, no, work on that. Wait, forget that and do this. Never mind, do this instead”. You've all been there in IT probably.
If there ever was a time to establish clear, long term goals and technology focus, now is it. But they will drift aimlessly, buffeted by the whims of the Administration and Congress.
So then...you've decided that even though some NoW employees have been convicted and are serving time, you don't think that's enough. So you want to hack in and inflict damage. Nice...Judge Jury and executioner even after they have been judged, found guilty and are serving time.
My, aren't you special..in a Short Bus kind of way.
Maybe the people responsible will maybe they won't. You consider yourself the backup for the criminal and civil law? How nice to be able to decide for rouyself if justice was done. Just decide if you like the outcome and if not, flail away.
Ahh...I see how Anon just accidentally hacks into accounts because they were forced by another hacker or they were all in a diabetic coma. So I guess they can't be held accountable because it wasn't their fault.
To compare hacking into someone's email account or corporate system to Slavery or any other injustice that is usually only resolved through violence is at best sophistry. At worst, it is the statement of moral coward who is struggling to reconcile their ignorant and childish views with reality.
A Whistler Blower is someone who has specific knowledge of wrong doing and brings it to light.
Anon has no such specific knowledge other than what was reported and is already in the light. Yet they decide to go ahead and illegally hack into their system and steal informtion in the hopes of finding more evidence.
Pretty long stretch to call them a whistler blower.
So by that reasoning it's ok for someone to go around beating people up because you suspect them of being corrupt but it's not ok to beat someone up because of their color, or gender, or color of the hair or because you were paid to?
Regardless of why you do it, you are still shooting people.
I wonder if Anon and Lulzlzlz (what the fuck ever) realize that they are and have been doing the very same thing they are pissed at The Sun for doing. They just have different targets that in their minds, deserve it.
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New Washing Machine: $700 (for a really nice one).
New Gulf Stream 650: $70 million (for a mid range version) - well over $10 billion in sales last year.
Now you tell me, how many people does one Gulfstream jet support (including designers, mechanics, assembly workers, managers, avionic designers, testers, skilled craftsmen (nice tables, they have, all cherry veneer), salesmen, maintenance depots, on and on and on).
And how many does your single washer support?
And don't forget...those evil tax breaks were passed by your Democratic buddies specifically to stimulate the manufacture and sale of these jets.
Making it more expensive for someone purchase and use anything just because YOU somehow think it's unfair that they can, is stupid.
His statements regarding this were couched in terms that portrayed those who buy and use private jets as selfish and financially foolish. His implications were clear. If you couldn’t see it then you need to pay more attention.
And if your purchase of a single washing machine literally supported hundreds of jobs, then I bet you would get a tax break for buying one too.
He's already threatened mine. In fact, I could make an argument he got me laid off.
I work in Aerospace at a company that manufactures interior fittings for private jets. Essentially we pimp them out.
When Obama first opened his Pie Hole about how corporations should not be buying these jets, within two weeks we had nearly 60% of our orders canceled as the jet builders like Gulfstream, Falcon, etc. had their orders canceled or placed on hold. With one Class Warfare speech he helped put thousands of people out of work.
Now, a year later I'm back with the same company and sure enough DipShit opens his PieHole again trying to demonize jet owners. We saw a 15% decrease in orders this time. I guess people realize he's just talking out of his ass.
Private jets, yachts, expensive cars, etc. are no different than dishwashers, washers, dryers, TVs, etc. They are luxuries that people pay for and the industries that build these things support thousands of jobs. In fact, in our industry, it’s almost 100% U.S. jobs, and well paying jobs at that.
People bitch and moan about how "rich people" and corporations have their money locked up and are not hiring, yet when they engage in commerce with that very same money, purchasing high end goods that end up paying for many, many salaries, they are demonized by this POS POTUS.
Not to mention the fact that the ballot was put together by a Democrat.
When was the last time a Democrat didn't explicitly or implicitly ("fair share "bullshit) call for raising taxes?
A "court document" means shit. It was submitted by party with a vested interest and essentially says "See! see!? They COULD have done it."
"Just remember, this is the United States of America. We write 80 million checks a month. There are millions and millions of Americans that depend on those checks coming on time," Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner
Well, THERE's your problem.
And of course, it seems the more he talks, the less people like him.
My What?
I have to say I have found the Facebook GUI to be decidedly schizophrenic. Or, maybe it's the content.
Opportunity is knocking for someone.
...walking (booted) out the door. In 5 years NASA couldn't launch a shuttle even if they took Atlantis, mothballed it and all the facilities because no one will know how to do it anymore.
When they started working on Ares they had to send engineers out to look at the Saturn 5 rocket in Houston to try to rediscover its technology because all of the institutional knowledge was gone. And even after that, they killed it.
Imagine what it must be like to be an engineer at NASA...”work on this, no, work on that. Wait, forget that and do this. Never mind, do this instead”. You've all been there in IT probably.
If there ever was a time to establish clear, long term goals and technology focus, now is it. But they will drift aimlessly, buffeted by the whims of the Administration and Congress.
So then...you've decided that even though some NoW employees have been convicted and are serving time, you don't think that's enough. So you want to hack in and inflict damage. Nice...Judge Jury and executioner even after they have been judged, found guilty and are serving time.
My, aren't you special..in a Short Bus kind of way.
Maybe the people responsible will maybe they won't. You consider yourself the backup for the criminal and civil law? How nice to be able to decide for rouyself if justice was done. Just decide if you like the outcome and if not, flail away.
The Question is, who decides when it is morally superior? So do you just get to go around looking for hate crimes and pound the perps ass?
Ahh...I see how Anon just accidentally hacks into accounts because they were forced by another hacker or they were all in a diabetic coma. So I guess they can't be held accountable because it wasn't their fault.
"Suspect? SUSPECT? The hacks were proven."
I must have missed the trial and the sentencing.
I guess we COULD save a lot of money if we just had people punish the perps before the trial if the evidence is there.
To compare hacking into someone's email account or corporate system to Slavery or any other injustice that is usually only resolved through violence is at best sophistry. At worst, it is the statement of moral coward who is struggling to reconcile their ignorant and childish views with reality.
" the actions taken by these journalists/Anon/Lulzsec was still illegal."
There, cleared it up a bit for ya.
So you won't mind then if I break into your home, rape your wife, kill your children and kick your dog. After all, there is no Right or Wrong.
Hacking into accounts that are not yours is hacking into accounts that are not yours.
Motivation is irrelevant.
A Whistler Blower is someone who has specific knowledge of wrong doing and brings it to light.
Anon has no such specific knowledge other than what was reported and is already in the light. Yet they decide to go ahead and illegally hack into their system and steal informtion in the hopes of finding more evidence.
Pretty long stretch to call them a whistler blower.
Substitute beating people up for shooting. Incomplete change of analogies.
So by that reasoning it's ok for someone to go around beating people up because you suspect them of being corrupt but it's not ok to beat someone up because of their color, or gender, or color of the hair or because you were paid to?
Regardless of why you do it, you are still shooting people.
Consequences be damned! They have a point they want to make.
I wonder if Anon and Lulzlzlz (what the fuck ever) realize that they are and have been doing the very same thing they are pissed at The Sun for doing. They just have different targets that in their minds, deserve it.