All of a sudden now C02 is "pollution" so anyone breathing is contributing to the demise of the planet, industry is suddenly giant polluters and we all are lazy, polluting, middle class, pigs.
Your "cost" of fossil fuels is imaginary...made up. And unless the feds are giving money to the oil companies, gasoline is not subsidized.
If you can build a car that costs in the mid teens, goes at least 100 miles on a charge, I'll buy one.
If you can make a solar panel that will save me money in electric after taking into account the cost of purchase, I'll buy one.
Until then, I'll stick with my window AC and my 12 year old, paid for, 21 mpg car.
That time frame is assuming that we did what I suggest and eliminate all the normal B.S. that is required, which does nothing other than increase costs and delay construction.
Even if we didn't, Wind and Solar still are no where near providing the power and reliability of a nuke plant.
But this is only a distraction from the main point. We have the technology to make most people happy...drastically reduce carbon emissions and not have to tax the life out of the economy.
The only people not happy with that will be the fringe elements on either side.
Call me when your fancy green energy has the capability to, in 3-5 years, drop a power plant pretty much anywhere near a water source and generate 800 to 1 gigawatt of power on demand.
Cap and Trade is order of magnitudes above restrict S02. It will make EVERYTHING more expensive. Alternatives? Like I'm going to drop $30k on a Pirus instead of just paying a few thousand more a year for gas.
You comment is like saying if I put a bag over your heard, you will find a way to moderate your breathing.
This is really what they want. It's kind of a pathological self loathing on a world wide scale.
People like wizardforce would more than happy to see us go back to horse and buggys, live on communes, eliminate most advanced forms of technology, etc.
Hey, I think I saw wizardforce in a video...yeah...here it is.
Just as sure as you make your home more efficient and use less electricity, they will raise the rates to protect the revenue stream. We already see that with gas. More fuel efficient vehicles use less gas, which means less gas tax which means less money for roads, which means a different tax to make up for it.
What makes this smell of political agenda rather than a genuine concern for the environment is that they urge action that will ultimately have no real value.
People will still need to drive to work. Trucks and trains will still need to run. Airlines will still fly, people will still run their AC, wash their clothes and dishes, watch TV, power their lights, etc.
The only difference will be that they will pay more and the government will get a big fat check to spend on more crap we don't need. Gee, more tax and spend, who'd a thunk?
If they had a real concern and really did want to reduce carbon, they would have forcefully and whole wholeheartedly endorsed nuclear power. They would have suggested a Nation Mandate, special legislation limiting lawsuits, standardization on just a few designs, mass production of parts and encouraging U.S. industry to make the parts (I seem to remember that the turbines are ONLY made in Germany and Japan), etc, etc.
Of course all the anti-nuke wackos will start lining up to poo poo this , but they cannot deny that nuclear power is carbon free, far safer than any other energy when properly handled, and far more efficient than any other fuel. And if you can push aside all the crap ( 5 year environmental impact studies, endless lawsuits, etc.) they can probably be built for far less than their traditional cost.
There are some aspects of the Conservative point of view not shared by Democratic Liberals.
Things like you should pay attention in school and learn the skills that will make you valuable in the job market. That the government is not responsible for your happiness, success, or anything else other than to make sure you have an equal opportunity to succeed and if you are unable to provide for yourself, then make sure you don't starve or die for lack of medical care. That the money you make belongs to you, not the government and that government should tax only what it needs, not what it wants in an attempt to create a Utopia that will ultimately and inevitably fail.
That schools should teach, not indoctrinate. That if you choose, and can afford it, you can put their children in private schools or even educate yourself without a Teacher's Union representative trying to have you arrested. That we don't want to pay to educate the entire third world simply because they managed to sneak across the border. That bad teachers and bad school administrators should be fired.
That people who can't afford a home loan really shouldn't be given one.
Yes, there is a difference between a worker who is educated, skilled, and asks for fair compensation in exchange for his labor and those who are neither and rely on Unions to blackmail companies into paying outrageous wages and benefits that ultimately help run entire industries into the ground.
Business is the "rest of us" because your typical business owner is living on your block and has about 1-4 employees.
"President Obama’s plans for reducing America’s nuclear arsenal and defeating Iran’s missiles rely heavily on a new generation of antimissile defenses, which last year he called “proven and effective.”"
"Advocate publishes report that promotes/detracts from whatever the advocate promotes/detracts from."
Dr. Postol has a history a testifying against antimissile systems. He has an agenda (as does everyone else). Just keep that in mind when reading his report.
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The ability to turn cars on and off at their whim.
How long until one hacks into the system and just turns them all off?
Hunting as a true sport...the animal has a 50% chance of bagging you!
News for you dumb ass...we get most of our oil from Canada now.
Iraq's oil production is LOWER now than it was before we kept an army in the Middle East to ensure stability.
That's crap.
All of a sudden now C02 is "pollution" so anyone breathing is contributing to the demise of the planet, industry is suddenly giant polluters and we all are lazy, polluting, middle class, pigs.
Your "cost" of fossil fuels is imaginary...made up. And unless the feds are giving money to the oil companies, gasoline is not subsidized.
If you can build a car that costs in the mid teens, goes at least 100 miles on a charge, I'll buy one.
If you can make a solar panel that will save me money in electric after taking into account the cost of purchase, I'll buy one.
Until then, I'll stick with my window AC and my 12 year old, paid for, 21 mpg car.
Hey, they are having another Old Growth Cry in...get yer tickets early!
If France can do it, then Shirley, we can do it.
That time frame is assuming that we did what I suggest and eliminate all the normal B.S. that is required, which does nothing other than increase costs and delay construction.
Even if we didn't, Wind and Solar still are no where near providing the power and reliability of a nuke plant.
I think you've had too much coffee.
If the alternatives were more efficient, they wouldn't need subsidizing.
I think I have more faith in the abilities and rationality of our command and control structure than you do.
The UE is doing really good these days, eh?
But this is only a distraction from the main point. We have the technology to make most people happy...drastically reduce carbon emissions and not have to tax the life out of the economy.
The only people not happy with that will be the fringe elements on either side.
Call me when your fancy green energy has the capability to, in 3-5 years, drop a power plant pretty much anywhere near a water source and generate 800 to 1 gigawatt of power on demand.
Cap and Trade is order of magnitudes above restrict S02. It will make EVERYTHING more expensive. Alternatives? Like I'm going to drop $30k on a Pirus instead of just paying a few thousand more a year for gas.
You comment is like saying if I put a bag over your heard, you will find a way to moderate your breathing.
Just take some more of your drugs and go back to sleep.
Find about more from a video of a recent meeting of the National Academy of Science
This is really what they want. It's kind of a pathological self loathing on a world wide scale.
People like wizardforce would more than happy to see us go back to horse and buggys, live on communes, eliminate most advanced forms of technology, etc.
Hey, I think I saw wizardforce in a video...yeah...here it is.
Just as sure as you make your home more efficient and use less electricity, they will raise the rates to protect the revenue stream. We already see that with gas. More fuel efficient vehicles use less gas, which means less gas tax which means less money for roads, which means a different tax to make up for it.
And before some numb nuts asks for a Citation
What makes this smell of political agenda rather than a genuine concern for the environment is that they urge action that will ultimately have no real value.
People will still need to drive to work. Trucks and trains will still need to run. Airlines will still fly, people will still run their AC, wash their clothes and dishes, watch TV, power their lights, etc.
The only difference will be that they will pay more and the government will get a big fat check to spend on more crap we don't need. Gee, more tax and spend, who'd a thunk?
If they had a real concern and really did want to reduce carbon, they would have forcefully and whole wholeheartedly endorsed nuclear power. They would have suggested a Nation Mandate, special legislation limiting lawsuits, standardization on just a few designs, mass production of parts and encouraging U.S. industry to make the parts (I seem to remember that the turbines are ONLY made in Germany and Japan), etc, etc.
Of course all the anti-nuke wackos will start lining up to poo poo this , but they cannot deny that nuclear power is carbon free, far safer than any other energy when properly handled, and far more efficient than any other fuel. And if you can push aside all the crap ( 5 year environmental impact studies, endless lawsuits, etc.) they can probably be built for far less than their traditional cost.
+1 Chuckle
I see...
So what in that sentence implies I suggested that we should be on a hair trigger?
And how is it relevant to the idea that we should have all options of reprisals open to us...from lecturing the ambassadors, to nuking their country.
I like to think that conservatives view traditions and empirically proven success.
For the most part, there is nothing wrong with the idea that you should stick with what works.
That's the irony here. Liberals can embrace the most authoritarian policies as long as they are convinced it is for your own good.
The most closed minded people I know are Open Minded Liberals.
There are some aspects of the Conservative point of view not shared by Democratic Liberals.
Things like you should pay attention in school and learn the skills that will make you valuable in the job market. That the government is not responsible for your happiness, success, or anything else other than to make sure you have an equal opportunity to succeed and if you are unable to provide for yourself, then make sure you don't starve or die for lack of medical care. That the money you make belongs to you, not the government and that government should tax only what it needs, not what it wants in an attempt to create a Utopia that will ultimately and inevitably fail.
That schools should teach, not indoctrinate. That if you choose, and can afford it, you can put their children in private schools or even educate yourself without a Teacher's Union representative trying to have you arrested. That we don't want to pay to educate the entire third world simply because they managed to sneak across the border. That bad teachers and bad school administrators should be fired.
That people who can't afford a home loan really shouldn't be given one.
Yes, there is a difference between a worker who is educated, skilled, and asks for fair compensation in exchange for his labor and those who are neither and rely on Unions to blackmail companies into paying outrageous wages and benefits that ultimately help run entire industries into the ground.
Business is the "rest of us" because your typical business owner is living on your block and has about 1-4 employees.
From TFA:
"President Obama’s plans for reducing America’s nuclear arsenal and defeating Iran’s missiles rely heavily on a new generation of antimissile defenses, which last year he called “proven and effective.”"
OK.
"Advocate publishes report that promotes/detracts from whatever the advocate promotes/detracts from."
Dr. Postol has a history a testifying against antimissile systems. He has an agenda (as does everyone else). Just keep that in mind when reading his report.