I have a better idea, how about I install Vista and see for myself. Oh, wait, I did -- have been running Vista since beta 1, and all these claims that Microsoft downgrades *ALL* HD content are complete rubbish. Vista even plays the ripped HD-DVD movies that I have downloaded, out my STANDARD non HDCP DVI connection, without degradation. As for movies WITH DRM, I can still play those as well, but since I don't have a machine with a protected path, they DO get degraded.
Don't fall for the FUD, do a little research on your own.
As a side note, for the people that say "I have a Mac" or "I run Linux" good luck playing those DRM movies. As I stated above, Vista will play them, albeit non-optimally, but at least I have that choice. Vista does not TAKE AWAY rights, it GIVES you the ability to play DRMed movies on your PC (and in all their glory, provided you have a PC that is certified to have a protected path).
You realize you are raising your kid to be a pussy? Your child is the type of kid that *my* kid would beat up, if I didn't teach him _that_ was wrong.
Grow a set a fucking balls and get the fuck over the fucking F word. While your at it, stop shitting yourself about the S world also.
*YOU* have control of your TV / radio / . You don't need the FCC to babysit your kid for you. *I* certainly do not want the FCC baby sitting mine. I am quite capable of telling my son that when (not if) he should use the FUCK word.
Example:
We are driving down the road and some dick head is protesting that the FCC isn't tight enough on foul language: "FUCK you dick head!" would be perfectly acceptable.
Oh, in case I didn't get my point across -- FUCK YOU!
I'm not sure how they have gotten away with it for so long without Blizzard being all over them. As for the conflicting EULA / GPL situation... I (like I am sure many others) read that and it was something that didn't click. "Licensed under the GPL -- cool", "No commercial use -- cool, no problem" was the thought process. Thank you very much for pointing that out.
'I think those of us that make non-MMO RPGs need to look at what a single-player/small multiplayer RPG can do that MMOs can't and spend our time and effort on those things', Urquhart said.
Granted it was a WHILE back that I looked for (S)mallMORPG, but I didn't find anything so I eventually setup a MaNGOS server. Blizzard is missing out BIG TIME. If they were to release a version of WoW that was scaled for personal use, they would make a killing. I would have no problem paying $120.00+ US for something like that (PLUS a yearly fee for content updates). Obviously there are people out there that want / need the "massiveness" of the MMORPG, but there are others (like me) that just want to play the game. Granted I have kinda gotten into the aspect of developing the game (the database not the core), but at times it would be nice to just PLAY and know that things work, not have to hunt down why a particular quest is bugged.
For those that don't know MaNGOS is the Massive Network Game Object Server. It isn't being developed for any one client, it just HAPPENS to work with the World of Warcraft client. In addition to the MaNGOS core, you need a backend database that drives the world. There are several out there that are being actively developed, but I prefer SDB.
I have an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe and had all kinds of audio problems with the stock Vista nForce 2 audio driver till I grabbed the Vista driver from Realtek's site.
While not ideal (no Dolby Digital encoding), it did solve all my stuttering problems that the stock Vista driver had.
Also, if you need them, Silicon Image has Vista drivers for the Sil3112 SATA chip. I know most boards from that era that used the nForce 2 chipset also used the Sil3112.
Sorry for the confusion concerning our use of FOSS. I didn't mean to imply that the other networks that you mentioned weren't FOSS software. What I was trying to get across was that we use standard FOSS tools as opposed to writing something custom.
Now to address your points:
But, uhm, while being an interesting project i don't understand how anoNet differs from standard VPN + routing between friends?
You are correct, there isn't much different other than the fact that you don't need to be invited to join anoNet. We have a public page and an open client port. Some people are worried that the machine running the client port could log all the IPs that connect to it. To that I have to say they are correct, but we don't. That would go against everything we stand for. The idea is that you use the client port to gain entry and when you feel comfortable peering with someone, you get off the client port and then the person running it (if they WERE logging IPs) wouldn't know who you peered with. As a side note, I could point out that anyone running a TOR server as their IP available on the TOR dir servers. Also, with I2P, the server that hold the master node list could log all the IPs.
Moving on...
What advantages would this have over I2P which adds pseudonym's for examples...
I2P has the advantage of being a plug and play solution. But with that you lose the ability to optimize the network. Also, it isn't an IP network, so you can't run any application unmodified. With anoNet, once you are in and have a subnet you can run any TCP or UDP application just as if you were on the Internet. You get a 1/8 IP (or/24 subnet) to host whatever services you like.
Or FreeNet with anonymous storage?
With Freenet.7 ALL you get is anonymous storage. Inside anoNet we have open ftp servers, and are looking into some of the distributed file systems out there.
Or Waste which does the same as what i understand from anoNet but in a simpler way with added search capacity?
Waste is a simple encrypted file sharing system and again requires you to build your list of "friends". As for searching, anoNet has a normal spidering search engine and a specialized search engine for searching files.
Or OpenSwan with opportunistic encryption?
Most of the people on anoNet use OpenVPN because of its ease of use and the fact that it uses TLS (AES-256). There is nothing to stop you from using OpenSwan (ipsec) to connect to another node if that other node was willing to use ipsec for the tunnel instead of OpenVPN. We do have some Cisco routers that are connected with ipsec.
I probably missed the point:-) Anyway, cheers and long live all the darknets!;-)
I wouldn't say you missed the point entirely, but there is a LOT more to anoNet than just anonymous file sharing. Also, we wouldn't consider ourselves a "darknet", more of a "greynet". I like the term greynet since we are open to new people without them having to be invited.
Unlike the others you listed, anoNet is a full IP network built using standard OSS tools (OpenVPN and Quagga being the heart of the network).
It is far from a perfect at giving absolute anonymity at the software level, it requires you to use some common sense. On the plus side, *you* get to decide who you trust and how much you trust them. Like TOR, the more people that are a part of anoNet, the more anonymous the network becomes. Think of the network in terms of old school BBSs.
If you are looking to join a network and just find loads of warez/porn/etc. anoNet is probably not for you. There is nothing to stop someone from hosting a warez site, and inside the network you are pretty darn safe. The reason you won't just find a huge stash is the fact that the network was built by people that believe in their privacy / right to free speech above all else. We are a bunch of network admins / Unix admins / programmers. Obviously we have no reason to pirate software since *nix is our OS of choice.
anoNet is what we call a Democratic Anarchy. There is a nice page on our wiki (inside the network) on what that means, but it is way too much to define here. Bottom line there is no kiddie porn, there will be no kiddie porn and don't bother connecting if you want to debate how not allowing kiddie porn is censorship. We picked a line, that line was kiddie porn and we stick to it.
Windows users are more than welcome. Because there is no BGP implementation for Windows, Windows users can't "natively" be routers, they can get a static IP (or a whole subnet) however. We have a coLinux image that can get you up and running if you really wanted to be a router.
Lastly, we are willing to help you learn. I can't express that enough. If you want to learn about networking or any other aspect of the network, we are all willing to help if you are genuinely interested. If you just want to setup a node and be a part of the network, that is fine also.
Anyway, hope this post tickled the imaginations of at least a few people. If you decide to connect, use a pseudonym that you have never used anywhere else.
1 - He dialed a PBX first that allowed hitting # or * to make another call. Since he already said: "There are ways around that." when asked about how much it cost, this is very plausible.
2 - He could have modified his modem to allow him to blue box. This also is very plausible as it only requires blowing 2600hz to trunk the line and place another call. It has been a while since I have seen the movie however, and I can't remember if the you could hear the tones. If you can and they are DTMF and not MF, then that blows this one.
Ahh I miss the days of microwave... screwing with inward operators was a blast. (If you read that link you will notice that "normal" people were not supposed to be able to reach inward operators, they were such trusting souls too.:P
The infamous Sprint and MCI back doors were nice also. For those that don't know, when Sprint and MCI were just turning up their fiber networks you could dial an 800 # that was not provisioned on their network, hit # 3 or 4 times, then you would get the standard calling card dial tone. From there you place your call as normal. The fact that AT&T and Sprint calling card numbers were only 6-7 digits sure was nice too.
Then came Feature Group D. In order for you to be able to choose your "default" carrier and not have to gypsy dial (10XXX+1+areacode+# 10222 for MCI, 10333 Sprint, 10288 AT&T, etc) they had to implement a system that allows any carrier to be able to track your phone # for usage. That pretty much shot all Phreaking.
I am in the market for a new HDTV. Even with all Sony's previous bad acts, I was still going to get an XBR2. Out of all the rear projection DLP based TVs, ths XBR2 really stood out so I was willing to let my consious ignore what Sony has been up to.
Enough is enough though. I had made up my mind the minute I read this submission, even before seeing your post to call for a boycott. Believe me, I think it will piss enough people off that this will hurt Sony.
It is one thing to screw up with root kits (why they are called root kits is beyond me, they didn't allow anyone access to the Winodows machine, they just used "root kit" practices for installation), it is quite another to put a company out of business.
Edit the root.hints file and replace the root servers with 127.0.0.1. Then just list forwards for the domains you want to a nameserver that is capable of resolving them. Unfortunately with this method you will get a timeout on any domain that you don't have a forward for, not an NXDOMAIN.
As an interesting side note Vista has to disable Aero when a Java app runs. As soon as the app is closed the Aero interface is re-enabled. Did Microsoft do this on purpose, or are Java widgets really that proprietary?
In what way is it closed? You go to the public website, download the public keys, connect on the public port, and then decide who you want to peer with.
It is closed in the sense that you need to run OpenVPN to connect to it and the fact that we use the 1/8 IANA reserved address space. But once you connect it has everything the "real" Internet has and more.
I know your "Cause why would you want to be anonymous if you're not a commie/terrorist?" question was sarcasm, but I thought I would give a valid example anyway.
If the production studios (both the MPAA and the RIAA) dropped their requirement for DRM tommorow do you think Microsoft would still include it in their OS? What would they have to gain THEN? That is how I should have worded it I guess.
As it stands, you are right. The studios want DRM and Microsoft hopes they will pick theirs. But Microsoft's DRM is not the _only_ DRM that they are including in their OS. As I pointed out they are also including what is required to play next gen media.
As long as the prodution companies require DRM, it will have to be in the OS to play "their" media.
PS - If any one is looking for a quick hack like what happened with CSS... haha... keep up the hope, they learned a thing or two this time.
Everyone keeps hating on Microsoft for including all this (God Forbid) DRM in Vista. Guess what. OSX nor Linux are ever going to have a chance of playing Blu-ray or HD-DVD in their current forms. The only way that would ever happen is if they were loaded up with drm and the hardware was locked down. I guess a lot of people don't realize that their beige box 'puters that they install their brand new copy of Vista on aren't even going to play HD-DVD in its highest resolution. You think Microsoft LIKES putting DRM in their OS? What do they have to gain if the studios didn't require it to play their content (I mean it must be their content since we can no longer do with it as we please).
Anyway, back to my small rant. In order to be certified to play HD-DVD or Blu-ray there must be a complete trusted path... all the way to the monitor. Recently, ATI got caught with their pants down claiming that they were selling a card that had HDCP support. I guess someone forgot to tell them they can only sell THOSE cards to OEMs that were certified.
Now a lot of people will say: "Well just don't buy Vista or HD-DVDs". Sorry folks, a LOT of people myself included WANT to be able to play HD-DVD on their home theater systems. So, some will say: "Just buy a standalone player". Again, I don't want to. I like all the things an HTPC gives me. So, bottom line, since the STUDIOS require the DRM, I don't see why everyone is busting Microsoft's chops.
What you describe would be nice if everyone and their brother could afford a link into a frame cloud. But that just isn't realistic. So what some of us have done is exactly what you describe, but virtually with software.
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I have a better idea, how about I install Vista and see for myself. Oh, wait, I did -- have been running Vista since beta 1, and all these claims that Microsoft downgrades *ALL* HD content are complete rubbish. Vista even plays the ripped HD-DVD movies that I have downloaded, out my STANDARD non HDCP DVI connection, without degradation. As for movies WITH DRM, I can still play those as well, but since I don't have a machine with a protected path, they DO get degraded.
Don't fall for the FUD, do a little research on your own.
As a side note, for the people that say "I have a Mac" or "I run Linux" good luck playing those DRM movies. As I stated above, Vista will play them, albeit non-optimally, but at least I have that choice. Vista does not TAKE AWAY rights, it GIVES you the ability to play DRMed movies on your PC (and in all their glory, provided you have a PC that is certified to have a protected path).
You realize you are raising your kid to be a pussy? Your child is the type of kid that *my* kid would beat up, if I didn't teach him _that_ was wrong.
Grow a set a fucking balls and get the fuck over the fucking F word. While your at it, stop shitting yourself about the S world also.
*YOU* have control of your TV / radio / . You don't need the FCC to babysit your kid for you. *I* certainly do not want the FCC baby sitting mine. I am quite capable of telling my son that when (not if) he should use the FUCK word.
Example:
We are driving down the road and some dick head is protesting that the FCC isn't tight enough on foul language: "FUCK you dick head!" would be perfectly acceptable.
Oh, in case I didn't get my point across -- FUCK YOU!
I'm not sure how they have gotten away with it for so long without Blizzard being all over them. As for the conflicting EULA / GPL situation... I (like I am sure many others) read that and it was something that didn't click. "Licensed under the GPL -- cool", "No commercial use -- cool, no problem" was the thought process. Thank you very much for pointing that out.
--PEACE!
'I think those of us that make non-MMO RPGs need to look at what a single-player/small multiplayer RPG can do that MMOs can't and spend our time and effort on those things', Urquhart said.
Granted it was a WHILE back that I looked for (S)mallMORPG, but I didn't find anything so I eventually setup a MaNGOS server. Blizzard is missing out BIG TIME. If they were to release a version of WoW that was scaled for personal use, they would make a killing. I would have no problem paying $120.00+ US for something like that (PLUS a yearly fee for content updates). Obviously there are people out there that want / need the "massiveness" of the MMORPG, but there are others (like me) that just want to play the game. Granted I have kinda gotten into the aspect of developing the game (the database not the core), but at times it would be nice to just PLAY and know that things work, not have to hunt down why a particular quest is bugged.
For those that don't know MaNGOS is the Massive Network Game Object Server. It isn't being developed for any one client, it just HAPPENS to work with the World of Warcraft client. In addition to the MaNGOS core, you need a backend database that drives the world. There are several out there that are being actively developed, but I prefer SDB.
I have an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe and had all kinds of audio problems with the stock Vista nForce 2 audio driver till I grabbed the Vista driver from Realtek's site.
While not ideal (no Dolby Digital encoding), it did solve all my stuttering problems that the stock Vista driver had.
Also, if you need them, Silicon Image has Vista drivers for the Sil3112 SATA chip. I know most boards from that era that used the nForce 2 chipset also used the Sil3112.
Now to address your points:
You are correct, there isn't much different other than the fact that you don't need to be invited to join anoNet. We have a public page and an open client port. Some people are worried that the machine running the client port could log all the IPs that connect to it. To that I have to say they are correct, but we don't. That would go against everything we stand for. The idea is that you use the client port to gain entry and when you feel comfortable peering with someone, you get off the client port and then the person running it (if they WERE logging IPs) wouldn't know who you peered with. As a side note, I could point out that anyone running a TOR server as their IP available on the TOR dir servers. Also, with I2P, the server that hold the master node list could log all the IPs.
Moving on...
I2P has the advantage of being a plug and play solution. But with that you lose the ability to optimize the network. Also, it isn't an IP network, so you can't run any application unmodified. With anoNet, once you are in and have a subnet you can run any TCP or UDP application just as if you were on the Internet. You get a 1/8 IP (or
With Freenet
Waste is a simple encrypted file sharing system and again requires you to build your list of "friends". As for searching, anoNet has a normal spidering search engine and a specialized search engine for searching files.
Most of the people on anoNet use OpenVPN because of its ease of use and the fact that it uses TLS (AES-256). There is nothing to stop you from using OpenSwan (ipsec) to connect to another node if that other node was willing to use ipsec for the tunnel instead of OpenVPN. We do have some Cisco routers that are connected with ipsec.
I wouldn't say you missed the point entirely, but there is a LOT more to anoNet than just anonymous file sharing. Also, we wouldn't consider ourselves a "darknet", more of a "greynet". I like the term greynet since we are open to new people without them having to be invited.
Hope that helped.
Just to add to your list: anoNet
Unlike the others you listed, anoNet is a full IP network built using standard OSS tools (OpenVPN and Quagga being the heart of the network).
It is far from a perfect at giving absolute anonymity at the software level, it requires you to use some common sense. On the plus side, *you* get to decide who you trust and how much you trust them. Like TOR, the more people that are a part of anoNet, the more anonymous the network becomes. Think of the network in terms of old school BBSs.
If you are looking to join a network and just find loads of warez/porn/etc. anoNet is probably not for you. There is nothing to stop someone from hosting a warez site, and inside the network you are pretty darn safe. The reason you won't just find a huge stash is the fact that the network was built by people that believe in their privacy / right to free speech above all else. We are a bunch of network admins / Unix admins / programmers. Obviously we have no reason to pirate software since *nix is our OS of choice.
anoNet is what we call a Democratic Anarchy. There is a nice page on our wiki (inside the network) on what that means, but it is way too much to define here. Bottom line there is no kiddie porn, there will be no kiddie porn and don't bother connecting if you want to debate how not allowing kiddie porn is censorship. We picked a line, that line was kiddie porn and we stick to it.
Windows users are more than welcome. Because there is no BGP implementation for Windows, Windows users can't "natively" be routers, they can get a static IP (or a whole subnet) however. We have a coLinux image that can get you up and running if you really wanted to be a router.
Lastly, we are willing to help you learn. I can't express that enough. If you want to learn about networking or any other aspect of the network, we are all willing to help if you are genuinely interested. If you just want to setup a node and be a part of the network, that is fine also.
Anyway, hope this post tickled the imaginations of at least a few people. If you decide to connect, use a pseudonym that you have never used anywhere else.
Turn in your Phreakers United™ card. :)
:P
This plot hole can be filled a couple of ways:
1 - He dialed a PBX first that allowed hitting # or * to make another call. Since he already said: "There are ways around that." when asked about how much it cost, this is very plausible.
2 - He could have modified his modem to allow him to blue box. This also is very plausible as it only requires blowing 2600hz to trunk the line and place another call. It has been a while since I have seen the movie however, and I can't remember if the you could hear the tones. If you can and they are DTMF and not MF, then that blows this one.
Ahh I miss the days of microwave... screwing with inward operators was a blast. (If you read that link you will notice that "normal" people were not supposed to be able to reach inward operators, they were such trusting souls too.
The infamous Sprint and MCI back doors were nice also. For those that don't know, when Sprint and MCI were just turning up their fiber networks you could dial an 800 # that was not provisioned on their network, hit # 3 or 4 times, then you would get the standard calling card dial tone. From there you place your call as normal. The fact that AT&T and Sprint calling card numbers were only 6-7 digits sure was nice too.
Then came Feature Group D. In order for you to be able to choose your "default" carrier and not have to gypsy dial (10XXX+1+areacode+# 10222 for MCI, 10333 Sprint, 10288 AT&T, etc) they had to implement a system that allows any carrier to be able to track your phone # for usage. That pretty much shot all Phreaking.
PEACE!
I guess productivity would go through the floor considering the Apocalypse would be upon us
Change your tampon, reboot, and try again (That should fix you).
PS - There are no hot female IT workers, so where are you getting this boob -> eye -> boob scenario from?
I am in the market for a new HDTV. Even with all Sony's previous bad acts, I was still going to get an XBR2. Out of all the rear projection DLP based TVs, ths XBR2 really stood out so I was willing to let my consious ignore what Sony has been up to.
Enough is enough though. I had made up my mind the minute I read this submission, even before seeing your post to call for a boycott. Believe me, I think it will piss enough people off that this will hurt Sony.
It is one thing to screw up with root kits (why they are called root kits is beyond me, they didn't allow anyone access to the Winodows machine, they just used "root kit" practices for installation), it is quite another to put a company out of business.
Republicans or Democrats in office will not matter. The US has started down a road that has no end (at least not a pretty one).
So if you can't change them, change yourself. Come be part of the solution.
My solution is similar but with bind.
Edit the root.hints file and replace the root servers with 127.0.0.1. Then just list forwards for the domains you want to a nameserver that is capable of resolving them. Unfortunately with this method you will get a timeout on any domain that you don't have a forward for, not an NXDOMAIN.
You need to worry about what is happening in America before you go and worry about anymore foreign "problems".
If something isn't done soon, we (as American's) will have to turn to Russia or Cuba for help with our oppresive regime.
Don't be blind to what is happening in your own backyard.
--PEACE!
As an interesting side note Vista has to disable Aero when a Java app runs. As soon as the app is closed the Aero interface is re-enabled. Did Microsoft do this on purpose, or are Java widgets really that proprietary?
--PEACE!
Why wait on Vaporware? Become a part of the solution NOW .
Take control of the internet before it takes control of you.
In what way is it closed? You go to the public website, download the public keys, connect on the public port, and then decide who you want to peer with.
It is closed in the sense that you need to run OpenVPN to connect to it and the fact that we use the 1/8 IANA reserved address space. But once you connect it has everything the "real" Internet has and more.
I know your "Cause why would you want to be anonymous if you're not a commie/terrorist?" question was sarcasm, but I thought I would give a valid example anyway.
http://anonetnfo.brinkster.net/
People need to take the internet from the government before the government can take it from them.
If the production studios (both the MPAA and the RIAA) dropped their requirement for DRM tommorow do you think Microsoft would still include it in their OS? What would they have to gain THEN? That is how I should have worded it I guess.
... haha ... keep up the hope, they learned a thing or two this time.
As it stands, you are right. The studios want DRM and Microsoft hopes they will pick theirs. But Microsoft's DRM is not the _only_ DRM that they are including in their OS. As I pointed out they are also including what is required to play next gen media.
As long as the prodution companies require DRM, it will have to be in the OS to play "their" media.
PS - If any one is looking for a quick hack like what happened with CSS
Everyone keeps hating on Microsoft for including all this (God Forbid) DRM in Vista. Guess what.
... all the way to the monitor. Recently, ATI got caught with their pants down claiming that
OSX nor Linux are ever going to have a chance of playing Blu-ray or HD-DVD in their current forms.
The only way that would ever happen is if they were loaded up with drm and the hardware was locked down. I
guess a lot of people don't realize that their beige box 'puters that they install their brand new copy
of Vista on aren't even going to play HD-DVD in its highest resolution. You think Microsoft LIKES putting
DRM in their OS? What do they have to gain if the studios didn't require it to play their content (I mean
it must be their content since we can no longer do with it as we please).
Anyway, back to my small rant. In order to be certified to play HD-DVD or Blu-ray there must be a complete
trusted path
they were selling a card that had HDCP support. I guess someone forgot to tell them they can only sell
THOSE cards to OEMs that were certified.
Now a lot of people will say: "Well just don't buy Vista or HD-DVDs". Sorry folks, a LOT of people myself
included WANT to be able to play HD-DVD on their home theater systems. So, some will say: "Just buy a
standalone player". Again, I don't want to. I like all the things an HTPC gives me. So, bottom line, since
the STUDIOS require the DRM, I don't see why everyone is busting Microsoft's chops.
The hosting company is having some problems. Please use http://anonet.fshell.org/
Sorry about that, I just checked and that hosting provider is having problems. Figures when I make a post to slashdot.
Try http://anonet.fshell.org/ it is a little out of date but I don't control that site.
Also, the "fairly accurate map" is not even remotely correct.
In practice though, it would be insane to let everyone with a DSL line to two different locations update routing table through the entire internet.
We seem to be scaling rather nicely.
http://anonetnfo.brinkster.net/
What you describe would be nice if everyone and their brother could afford a link into a frame cloud. But that just isn't realistic. So what some of us have done is exactly what you describe, but virtually with software.
Check out http://anonetnfo.brinkster.net/ for more info.
It hasn't completely fizzled and it hasn't become 100% user friendly. But we at anoNet are trying to make it as newbie friendly as possible.