I figured I didn't need to as a AC had already mentioned that in a reply to you, but I was referring to Firebug. It has been able to do basic debugging for at least four years, and before that Venkman had those features (from 2002 or so)...
Current Firebug of course does loads more than just plain js debugging and should definitely be a tool in every serious web developers toolbox.
Somewhat similar functionality is found in at least Chrome developer tools, IE developer tools, Opera Firefly and Safari Drosera. I'm not promising these tools do exactly waht you wnt (or even that they exist anymore) as I haven't really used them much. The point is, tools exist and are easy to find -- you decided to use "alert();".
Sorry, but this goes to the unimpressing-arguments pile... Debugging javascript is not more difficult than debugging anything else that runs in an environment like the browser and the tools that are available are fairly good. "Debugging by popups" was a choice you made, not something related to javascript the language.
Many people have told me that... so far I'm unimpressed by their arguments. Yes, there are a lot of people who abuse js -- but how would that change if we gave them another language? Yes, working with the DOM in a cross-browser way is a pain in the ass -- but how would that change if you did that via another language? Yes, some js engines have bugs and performance issues -- but how do we know the engines for the other languages would be better (remember that we need an engine for every browser)?
Now, there are some valid complaints on javascript as a language: it was designed in a hurry and then left to rot. With all its faults, I still think it's a pretty damn beautiful and expressive language. The awful quality of books, tutorials and example code on javascript is a major reason for the reputation it has, but check out "JavaScript: The Good Parts" by Douglas Crockford if you want to see the genuine elegance in javascript -- this book should be a requirement for anyone who wants to either code in js or express an opinion about it in public.
Matthew Garrett filed a copright violation case at US customs against the JooJoo tablet manuacturer: blog post (see last paragraph). This may be an interesting way to put pressure on manufacturers: if the customs actually start seizing shipments, I'm sure the sources start appearing pretty fast:)
On the other hand, Matthews earlier posts on JooJoo should discourage anyone from actually buying one...
Sure. On the other hand, competition is what got us this far. Having only one html engine or js engine that actually improves isn't necessarily a good thing.
Both AdBlock and AdThwart for Chrome no longer download ads before blocking.
Except that chrome just doesn't let you do that for everything. Even the adblock page says "a few resources might still load before AdBlock can get to them".
There's good reason behind moving to fucktons. The relative ambiguity of shitloads made life difficult for everyone: Are we talking imperial shitloads, naval shitloads, long shitloads, short shitloads... measuring loads of crap used to require an expert, now anyone can do it!
Notmuch can manage absolutely insane amounts of email without any artificial 'archiving'. Of course, if you are looking for a a program that does something else than tagging and searching (like sending, composing or receiving email), you need to look elsewhere.
I tried to bring a little scientific method into the conversation (with references that should be easy to lookup) and this is what I get as response...
What "stats for Catholic priests"? Where should I look for them or who are the authors? How are the recidivism figures for priests different compared to general public?
FLEXlm? Good god, how can they still be in business? When I read the summary I wondered who could be such idiots but this makes perfect sense: the people behind FLEXlm would definitely be capable of that.
That application is a perfect example of a DRM system (it's a software license managament server) that drives people to copyright infringement: it can make the lives of honest people so much worse that using a crack was seriously considered in my organization even though we had a licence for every copy of the ESRI software that used FLEXlm... The best example (and I have loads) of their engineering skill was the handling of a specific error situation in the server: every time this specific error occurred, it opened a dialog -- yes, it did that on the server and yes, it was a new dialog every time the error occured. The amount of dialogs would in the end grind the Windows server to a halt, even remotely connecting was sometimes impossible. Brilliant.
You sound very confident, do you have a source for that "near-100%" statistic?
I'm asking because in my opinion this "sex offenders / serious violent offenders always do it again" myth has been debunked quite thoroughly. Rape and homicide especially are not repeated very often -- recidivism percentages are in the 1-10% bracket for the typical 3-5 year data period. Harris&Hanson calculated that in 15 years 3 out of 4 sex offenders have not been rearrested -- this is a very good figure compared to just about any other form of crime. See "Predicting Relapse" by Hanson and Bussiere (collects data from 61 international studies), or the half a dozen DoJ studies on recidivism for starters. There are some sub-types of sexual offences that seem to be more prone to repeating (and I wouldn't be surprised if the same was true for homicide) but that wasn't your point, was it?
Another widely popular myth is visible in your "Homie da Gangsta gang-rape" idea. Most sexual assaults (80-90%) are committed by someone known to the victim (you can find this in DoJ statistics as well, can't remember the exact ref).
IE was purchased by Microsoft. They didn't do some dirty trick, they found a company making a product they liked and purchased them. Not just the rights to their product, the brought on the developers and all that.
The story is quite different if you listen to Eric Sink, and he was there so I'm going to believe him unless you provide some evidence. According to him MS did license the Spyglass code: Memoirs From the Browser Wars. JImbob0i0 already pointed out the financial shenanigans MS did in that deal.
Ok, you've made the claim enough times now. Let's see some evidence: a real example of an application that doesn't work because.NET is broken in ways that cannot be worked around. This should be easy as you know a number of these cases.
I'm sure you don't care about DMCA (most people don't), but don't be so sure that you aren't breaking it. DMCA makes it illegal to circumvent an access control regardless of intent -- no copyright infringement needs to happen for DMCA to trigger. As an additional bonus, you do get a higher penalty for copyright infringement, though.
I'm guessing the image you link to is an aerial orthophoto, not a satellite photo. Also, there are various reasons for quality problems in satellite photos, meaning blurring can definitely be a lot worse at some points at some time, even if the weather at ground seems similar. Turbulence hurts resolution, as an example.
That's partly true but also quite like saying a $5 lock won't stop someone stealing your $1000 bike.In practice the thief will often just find an easier target -- another bike or something else altogether... The criminals aren't trying to make Chrome extensions, or even browser extensions, they're trying to make money. If the Chrome extension scam requires them to do CC fraudthey might just pick an easier target.
In short, it's not about the resources the criminals have, it's about the opportunity cost of the scam.
Interesting posting, thanks. I still don't see how you can say that the implicit patent grant probably does not protect modified redistribution at all... The EU decision says
...this implicit license would be limited to the use that is being made of the patent claim by the code as originally released under the GPL. If the licensee now changes the code in a way that adds another use or implementation of claim Z it may be liable for patent infringement as regards the code it has added to what it had originally received under the GPL.
In other words only reimplementing Z or using it in a new context would trigger the infringement. That's still dangerous but totally different from your paraphrasing. What gives, have I misunderstood?
Yeah, I know public transport exists in LA. It's just that both the size of the network and the problems they are solving remind me very much of my home city which has a population of 1 million... Comparing LA to Tokyo (a city of similar population) is not advisable:)
So I stand by my point. Building a Tokyo-like intra-city public transport would be too expensive because of the LA city planning.
GPL as such doesn't help. However, it is interesting to note that if Google had used Sun Java as starting point they would have had the GPLv2 implicit patent protection.
Finland: 338 000 sq. km, 5.4 million people. Texas has twice the population density. Why would you pick one of the most densely populated areas in the world for your comparison (unless it was just to "prove" a point)?
It's true that the local area planning in much of the US has pretty much destroyed the chances of efficient public transport, but please don't fool yourself into thinking state population density has something to do with it.
I don't think your point stands when we look at states/countries -- or possibly you have a different value of 'feasible'. Sure, Japan and UK have high population densities but they aren't the only places with working public transport... Finland is in the same league as California in total area and has only a fifth of Californias population density. Even the "densely populated" south is still empty by Japanese standards. Public transport throughout the country still works. Less populated areas are naturally harder to reach but it's possible.Whether ultra-high-speed trains are feasible with these population numbers is another thing altogether.
Your point is spot on when you start looking at cities: Most of Los Angeles is just not dense enough for working internal public transport. This of course affects the feasibility of state-wide public traffic because people have no way to get to the long distance train station...
Maybe it leaks, it's possible... but do the math once if you haven't before: count your open tabs, estimate number of pixels on each bitmap (window pixels times number of pages), find out number of colors, and calculate the number of bits required to just store the rendered bitmaps in memory. You will end up with a surprisingly large number. Screens have grown and web pages have become larger and more complex and that has a direct effect on memory use.
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I figured I didn't need to as a AC had already mentioned that in a reply to you, but I was referring to Firebug. It has been able to do basic debugging for at least four years, and before that Venkman had those features (from 2002 or so)...
Current Firebug of course does loads more than just plain js debugging and should definitely be a tool in every serious web developers toolbox.
Somewhat similar functionality is found in at least Chrome developer tools, IE developer tools, Opera Firefly and Safari Drosera. I'm not promising these tools do exactly waht you wnt (or even that they exist anymore) as I haven't really used them much. The point is, tools exist and are easy to find -- you decided to use "alert();".
Sorry, but this goes to the unimpressing-arguments pile... Debugging javascript is not more difficult than debugging anything else that runs in an environment like the browser and the tools that are available are fairly good. "Debugging by popups" was a choice you made, not something related to javascript the language.
Many people have told me that... so far I'm unimpressed by their arguments. Yes, there are a lot of people who abuse js -- but how would that change if we gave them another language? Yes, working with the DOM in a cross-browser way is a pain in the ass -- but how would that change if you did that via another language? Yes, some js engines have bugs and performance issues -- but how do we know the engines for the other languages would be better (remember that we need an engine for every browser)?
Now, there are some valid complaints on javascript as a language: it was designed in a hurry and then left to rot. With all its faults, I still think it's a pretty damn beautiful and expressive language. The awful quality of books, tutorials and example code on javascript is a major reason for the reputation it has, but check out "JavaScript: The Good Parts" by Douglas Crockford if you want to see the genuine elegance in javascript -- this book should be a requirement for anyone who wants to either code in js or express an opinion about it in public.
Matthew Garrett filed a copright violation case at US customs against the JooJoo tablet manuacturer: blog post (see last paragraph). This may be an interesting way to put pressure on manufacturers: if the customs actually start seizing shipments, I'm sure the sources start appearing pretty fast :)
On the other hand, Matthews earlier posts on JooJoo should discourage anyone from actually buying one...
Who decides what parts are allegory and what parts are literal truths? I hope it's someone reliable...
Sure. On the other hand, competition is what got us this far. Having only one html engine or js engine that actually improves isn't necessarily a good thing.
Except that chrome just doesn't let you do that for everything. Even the adblock page says "a few resources might still load before AdBlock can get to them".
There's good reason behind moving to fucktons. The relative ambiguity of shitloads made life difficult for everyone: Are we talking imperial shitloads, naval shitloads, long shitloads, short shitloads... measuring loads of crap used to require an expert, now anyone can do it!
They can't formally reject until there is a final proposal...
+1
Notmuch can manage absolutely insane amounts of email without any artificial 'archiving'. Of course, if you are looking for a a program that does something else than tagging and searching (like sending, composing or receiving email), you need to look elsewhere.
I tried to bring a little scientific method into the conversation (with references that should be easy to lookup) and this is what I get as response...
What "stats for Catholic priests"? Where should I look for them or who are the authors? How are the recidivism figures for priests different compared to general public?
FLEXlm? Good god, how can they still be in business? When I read the summary I wondered who could be such idiots but this makes perfect sense: the people behind FLEXlm would definitely be capable of that.
That application is a perfect example of a DRM system (it's a software license managament server) that drives people to copyright infringement: it can make the lives of honest people so much worse that using a crack was seriously considered in my organization even though we had a licence for every copy of the ESRI software that used FLEXlm... The best example (and I have loads) of their engineering skill was the handling of a specific error situation in the server: every time this specific error occurred, it opened a dialog -- yes, it did that on the server and yes, it was a new dialog every time the error occured. The amount of dialogs would in the end grind the Windows server to a halt, even remotely connecting was sometimes impossible. Brilliant.
I'm sure he meant licenses that are not in the MPEGLA pool, but still cover H.264.
You sound very confident, do you have a source for that "near-100%" statistic?
I'm asking because in my opinion this "sex offenders / serious violent offenders always do it again" myth has been debunked quite thoroughly. Rape and homicide especially are not repeated very often -- recidivism percentages are in the 1-10% bracket for the typical 3-5 year data period. Harris&Hanson calculated that in 15 years 3 out of 4 sex offenders have not been rearrested -- this is a very good figure compared to just about any other form of crime. See "Predicting Relapse" by Hanson and Bussiere (collects data from 61 international studies), or the half a dozen DoJ studies on recidivism for starters. There are some sub-types of sexual offences that seem to be more prone to repeating (and I wouldn't be surprised if the same was true for homicide) but that wasn't your point, was it?
Another widely popular myth is visible in your "Homie da Gangsta gang-rape" idea. Most sexual assaults (80-90%) are committed by someone known to the victim (you can find this in DoJ statistics as well, can't remember the exact ref).
The story is quite different if you listen to Eric Sink, and he was there so I'm going to believe him unless you provide some evidence. According to him MS did license the Spyglass code: Memoirs From the Browser Wars. JImbob0i0 already pointed out the financial shenanigans MS did in that deal.
Sometimes they also get their facts wrong.
Ok, you've made the claim enough times now. Let's see some evidence: a real example of an application that doesn't work because .NET is broken in ways that cannot be worked around. This should be easy as you know a number of these cases.
I'm sure you don't care about DMCA (most people don't), but don't be so sure that you aren't breaking it. DMCA makes it illegal to circumvent an access control regardless of intent -- no copyright infringement needs to happen for DMCA to trigger. As an additional bonus, you do get a higher penalty for copyright infringement, though.
I'm guessing the image you link to is an aerial orthophoto, not a satellite photo. Also, there are various reasons for quality problems in satellite photos, meaning blurring can definitely be a lot worse at some points at some time, even if the weather at ground seems similar. Turbulence hurts resolution, as an example.
That's partly true but also quite like saying a $5 lock won't stop someone stealing your $1000 bike.In practice the thief will often just find an easier target -- another bike or something else altogether... The criminals aren't trying to make Chrome extensions, or even browser extensions, they're trying to make money. If the Chrome extension scam requires them to do CC fraudthey might just pick an easier target.
In short, it's not about the resources the criminals have, it's about the opportunity cost of the scam.
Interesting posting, thanks. I still don't see how you can say that the implicit patent grant probably does not protect modified redistribution at all... The EU decision says
In other words only reimplementing Z or using it in a new context would trigger the infringement. That's still dangerous but totally different from your paraphrasing. What gives, have I misunderstood?
Yeah, I know public transport exists in LA. It's just that both the size of the network and the problems they are solving remind me very much of my home city which has a population of 1 million... Comparing LA to Tokyo (a city of similar population) is not advisable :)
So I stand by my point. Building a Tokyo-like intra-city public transport would be too expensive because of the LA city planning.
GPL as such doesn't help. However, it is interesting to note that if Google had used Sun Java as starting point they would have had the GPLv2 implicit patent protection.
Finland: 338 000 sq. km, 5.4 million people. Texas has twice the population density. Why would you pick one of the most densely populated areas in the world for your comparison (unless it was just to "prove" a point)?
It's true that the local area planning in much of the US has pretty much destroyed the chances of efficient public transport, but please don't fool yourself into thinking state population density has something to do with it.
I don't think your point stands when we look at states/countries -- or possibly you have a different value of 'feasible'. Sure, Japan and UK have high population densities but they aren't the only places with working public transport... Finland is in the same league as California in total area and has only a fifth of Californias population density. Even the "densely populated" south is still empty by Japanese standards. Public transport throughout the country still works. Less populated areas are naturally harder to reach but it's possible.Whether ultra-high-speed trains are feasible with these population numbers is another thing altogether.
Your point is spot on when you start looking at cities: Most of Los Angeles is just not dense enough for working internal public transport. This of course affects the feasibility of state-wide public traffic because people have no way to get to the long distance train station...
Maybe it leaks, it's possible... but do the math once if you haven't before: count your open tabs, estimate number of pixels on each bitmap (window pixels times number of pages), find out number of colors, and calculate the number of bits required to just store the rendered bitmaps in memory. You will end up with a surprisingly large number. Screens have grown and web pages have become larger and more complex and that has a direct effect on memory use.