NH politics aside, I don't think we want to build a society where you must live in an arcology just to get basic infrastructure. Yes I am using hyperbole, but it is to shed light on the obvious flaw in your thinking. Believe it or not, corporate america could actually have the aim of making our country a better place if our society actually valued that.
"a god (or gods) that can't be proved or disproved is the same as a god that is irrelevant."
False. There is an absolute truth out there somewhere, and your ability to prove or disprove it is what is irrelevant.
"if you can't positively assign any action or attributes to a given god then it may as well not exist."
Again, false. Even a ficticious god can have a profound impact on a populace. =)
"so, why worship something that is irrelevant? that takes no action? that has no influence or effect on the world?"
Does this mean I should be worshiping gravity? It has a tremendous influence on the world, without it we wouldn't exist, but I don't pray to it every night before I hit the rack.
It didn't say the makefile was infected, it said ELF binaries were infected. So the point remains--executing binaries from an untrusted fan site as root is begging for problems.
Placing a binary in a directory cannot cause the payload of the virus to execute. The ELF binary has to be executed, and if you execute it as root, you get what you deserve.
"the fisrt law of thermodynamics precludes any fuel source producing more energy than originally went into its creation"
You are mixing up the creation of an energy storage source and the expending of energy stored in an energy storage source.
What the poster was saying is that currently you have to expend > N energy to extract N energy from water in the form of hydrogen. He didn't say he was creating the water~
As ABG said, the courts determine who can tap lines, and it should be the same for the internet.
We have free speech in this country already, Mr. Bush is free to know that I think his presidency is an utter failure. I can say it as many times as I like, I can even drive to the White House and yell it at the top of my lungs.
Countries without free speech have a censored internet already, all of the FreeNets in the world won't change the way the Chinese government deals with its citizens. They had a good start on a revolution and the cops started blowing away students, anonymous blogs mean shit in the face of that.
But being totally anonymous has given rise to viruses, spam, child porn, 419s, and so on. When people can hide their indentity, they all of the sudden feel empowered to act on impulses they would normally curtail--this is not good, contrary to what most of the tinfoil brigade thinks. It has very nearly turned the most important economic invention in quite a long time into a wasteland of missing kidneys and stolen credit cards.
I buy books, PVR cards, and more or less everything else on our internet. I carry out multi-thousand dollar stock transactions over our internet. Full verification of identity is crucial into keeping our financial transactions safe, period. Caller-ID for email is the first step, it's time for ISPs to get on board and block un-IDed emails at the door. The next step is to make it impossible to exchange funds without both sides being verifiably identified.
How can you possibly compare the two? Microsoft decides to shitcan support for Win 95? Too bad. It's an unOS.
Joe Coder decides to abandon his utility for twiddling some config file? Too bad--but wait...maybe you can patch it. Maybe you have a friend who can patch it. Or maybe it just needs an older lib loaded. Hell, maybe a whole community ends up getting formed around it if it's that cool.
Without F/OSS there is no maybe. With F/OSS the possibilities range from just as bad as Microsoft to endless.
So what? It's not like OSS's number one mission is to beat out commercial software. Company A choosing a proprietary piece of software has zero impact on Linux. F/OSS by definition isn't a profit game, it's a freedom game. For those players in the space who are making money, more power to em. If a $10K proprietary solution is more cost efficient, then they should use it.
Why does anyone still use SMTP and mail readers? I cannot understand this at all. I have used Yahoo for years now, and I don't regret it in the least. I can check my e-mail from anywhere, their spam filters work like a champ, 2GB of space.
If the ISPs were smart, they would quit giving out e-mail addresses and shut down port 25 till you ask for it to be open. Businesses, corporations, etc aside, SMTP has been abused to the point where it would probably be better left for dead.
Lemme get this straight. You want them to rewrite their cashcow, after 15 years of refinement. You want them to magically convince "major vendors" to rewrite their cashcows as well.
Tell me what, precisely, a full rewrite will accomplish? How does that further our IT industry? How does that make things better for the user? Longhorn is as close to a rewrite as we're likely to witness out of Redmond--and that's a great thing. A whole new codebase to debug is bad, mmmkay?
Once you get out of college, you'll understand. Until then, get back to your homework.
You have got to be kidding me. Unionize? I refuse to let some corrupt organization tell me when and when not to work.
Unions were useful when "fair treatment" was really an issue. I don't make overtime, I've logged some hours that would put a Nike sweatshop to shame, and I STILL don't think I'm treated unfairly. I come and go as I please, I get raises when I ask for them, and my stocks made me a pretty good nest egg to boot.
SCO never wanted to sell licenses, litigation has more potential. Now they can sue till they run out of money or get bought without all those pesky customers getting in the way.
You would rather we fly commerical jetliners into their huts? Life is good here for a reason man, get over it.
Mods: Have a ball with this one, but it had to be said.
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People use IE not because it's a better browser, but because that's what comes up when they click on the "Browse the Web" desktop icon.
Sry, but in the 4.0 days, IE beat the hell out of Netscape. Easily. Cry foul if you must, but do it knowing that IE bested Netscape technically, as well as with (perhaps unfair) convenience. I've been in the web-based application business for quite a while and only now is Mozilla looking to be worthy of competing. Of course, nothing beats Konqeror for integration and usefulness (KParts > all), but it's HTML rendering skills need some work. They'll get there. But that's another post...
The search engine war, if there is to be one, will be interesting to view but the outcome may not please the anti-MS camp. Hmmmm. One thing I just thought of: on my Gnome box I'm looking at a Mozilla screen, specifically the "Search" button that I had to reconfigure to point to Google. Chore? Yes. Same thing that MS will do? Likely. But I guess what's good for one...
Scary but the 1984 jokes are getting more and more relevant. While I won't see the thought police in my lifetime, (nor Two Minutes Hate, nor Room 101) the kind of shit this administration is pulling is blatent--and it will only teach them that they can literally pass any freedom-stealing law they choose.
Now my question is the same, I understand the "how", but I really want to know, "why?"
Or am I the only one to think the kid deserved to be punished, not encouraged? Call me troll all you want, but sending "Hey!" to the whole domain isn't education, it's disruption.
Now, a 3-day suspension? That's a little steep IMO, but those of you asking for him to be rewarded and/or encouraged are missing the larger point.
Are you suggesting that we cancel the national defense programs? Pfft...
Back on topic, there is a burning human need to explore, to further itself. At an academic level, it increases the knowledge of the race. At a practical level, it prevents eventual extinction. We gotta get off this rock eventually, no reason to wait until it's a problem IMO.
You are mistaken on that. There is a group of us here where I work that live, eat, and breathe our code. It's quite proprietary, but that doesn't make us any less proud of it.
On the contrary, it promotes recognition and confidence. If the best browser in the world looks like it was thrown together on the outside, it will most certainly be disregarded by the majority of those who have used it.
The only reason it wouldn't allow an legitimate e-mail though is because the MTA sending it doesn't comform to the SMTP spec. That's the "practically".
If you think there is a single perfect solution, you're foolish at best.
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NH politics aside, I don't think we want to build a society where you must live in an arcology just to get basic infrastructure. Yes I am using hyperbole, but it is to shed light on the obvious flaw in your thinking. Believe it or not, corporate america could actually have the aim of making our country a better place if our society actually valued that.
You would rather the country be run by the poor?
"a god (or gods) that can't be proved or disproved is the same as a god that is irrelevant."
False. There is an absolute truth out there somewhere, and your ability to prove or disprove it is what is irrelevant.
"if you can't positively assign any action or attributes to a given god then it may as well not exist."
Again, false. Even a ficticious god can have a profound impact on a populace. =)
"so, why worship something that is irrelevant? that takes no action? that has no influence or effect on the world?"
Does this mean I should be worshiping gravity? It has a tremendous influence on the world, without it we wouldn't exist, but I don't pray to it every night before I hit the rack.
It didn't say the makefile was infected, it said ELF binaries were infected. So the point remains--executing binaries from an untrusted fan site as root is begging for problems.
Placing a binary in a directory cannot cause the payload of the virus to execute. The ELF binary has to be executed, and if you execute it as root, you get what you deserve.
The point was that it could print a book that fast, and a book has ordered pages.
"the fisrt law of thermodynamics precludes any fuel source producing more energy than originally went into its creation"
You are mixing up the creation of an energy storage source and the expending of energy stored in an energy storage source.
What the poster was saying is that currently you have to expend > N energy to extract N energy from water in the form of hydrogen. He didn't say he was creating the water~
As ABG said, the courts determine who can tap lines, and it should be the same for the internet.
We have free speech in this country already, Mr. Bush is free to know that I think his presidency is an utter failure. I can say it as many times as I like, I can even drive to the White House and yell it at the top of my lungs.
Countries without free speech have a censored internet already, all of the FreeNets in the world won't change the way the Chinese government deals with its citizens. They had a good start on a revolution and the cops started blowing away students, anonymous blogs mean shit in the face of that.
But being totally anonymous has given rise to viruses, spam, child porn, 419s, and so on. When people can hide their indentity, they all of the sudden feel empowered to act on impulses they would normally curtail--this is not good, contrary to what most of the tinfoil brigade thinks. It has very nearly turned the most important economic invention in quite a long time into a wasteland of missing kidneys and stolen credit cards.
I buy books, PVR cards, and more or less everything else on our internet. I carry out multi-thousand dollar stock transactions over our internet. Full verification of identity is crucial into keeping our financial transactions safe, period. Caller-ID for email is the first step, it's time for ISPs to get on board and block un-IDed emails at the door. The next step is to make it impossible to exchange funds without both sides being verifiably identified.
How can you possibly compare the two? Microsoft decides to shitcan support for Win 95? Too bad. It's an unOS.
Joe Coder decides to abandon his utility for twiddling some config file? Too bad--but wait...maybe you can patch it. Maybe you have a friend who can patch it. Or maybe it just needs an older lib loaded. Hell, maybe a whole community ends up getting formed around it if it's that cool.
Without F/OSS there is no maybe. With F/OSS the possibilities range from just as bad as Microsoft to endless.
Make your choice.
So what? It's not like OSS's number one mission is to beat out commercial software. Company A choosing a proprietary piece of software has zero impact on Linux. F/OSS by definition isn't a profit game, it's a freedom game. For those players in the space who are making money, more power to em. If a $10K proprietary solution is more cost efficient, then they should use it.
With the shit that's coming out these days, I have to concur...albeit for different reasons.
Why does anyone still use SMTP and mail readers? I cannot understand this at all. I have used Yahoo for years now, and I don't regret it in the least. I can check my e-mail from anywhere, their spam filters work like a champ, 2GB of space.
If the ISPs were smart, they would quit giving out e-mail addresses and shut down port 25 till you ask for it to be open. Businesses, corporations, etc aside, SMTP has been abused to the point where it would probably be better left for dead.
Flame on..
Lemme get this straight. You want them to rewrite their cashcow, after 15 years of refinement. You want them to magically convince "major vendors" to rewrite their cashcows as well.
Tell me what, precisely, a full rewrite will accomplish? How does that further our IT industry? How does that make things better for the user? Longhorn is as close to a rewrite as we're likely to witness out of Redmond--and that's a great thing. A whole new codebase to debug is bad, mmmkay?
Once you get out of college, you'll understand. Until then, get back to your homework.
That would have worked pre-lawsuit, but they've made a name for themselves by threatening, suing and generally extorting their customers.
Right now, the best thing they can do is to litigate to the last breath. And that sucks for us.
You have got to be kidding me. Unionize? I refuse to let some corrupt organization tell me when and when not to work.
Unions were useful when "fair treatment" was really an issue. I don't make overtime, I've logged some hours that would put a Nike sweatshop to shame, and I STILL don't think I'm treated unfairly. I come and go as I please, I get raises when I ask for them, and my stocks made me a pretty good nest egg to boot.
Unfairly my ass.
SCO never wanted to sell licenses, litigation has more potential. Now they can sue till they run out of money or get bought without all those pesky customers getting in the way.
You would rather we fly commerical jetliners into their huts? Life is good here for a reason man, get over it.
Mods: Have a ball with this one, but it had to be said.
People use IE not because it's a better browser, but because that's what comes up when they click on the "Browse the Web" desktop icon.
Sry, but in the 4.0 days, IE beat the hell out of Netscape. Easily. Cry foul if you must, but do it knowing that IE bested Netscape technically, as well as with (perhaps unfair) convenience. I've been in the web-based application business for quite a while and only now is Mozilla looking to be worthy of competing. Of course, nothing beats Konqeror for integration and usefulness (KParts > all), but it's HTML rendering skills need some work. They'll get there. But that's another post...
The search engine war, if there is to be one, will be interesting to view but the outcome may not please the anti-MS camp. Hmmmm. One thing I just thought of: on my Gnome box I'm looking at a Mozilla screen, specifically the "Search" button that I had to reconfigure to point to Google. Chore? Yes. Same thing that MS will do? Likely. But I guess what's good for one...
jc
Scary but the 1984 jokes are getting more and more relevant. While I won't see the thought police in my lifetime, (nor Two Minutes Hate, nor Room 101) the kind of shit this administration is pulling is blatent--and it will only teach them that they can literally pass any freedom-stealing law they choose.
Now my question is the same, I understand the "how", but I really want to know, "why?"
jc
Or am I the only one to think the kid deserved to be punished, not encouraged? Call me troll all you want, but sending "Hey!" to the whole domain isn't education, it's disruption.
Now, a 3-day suspension? That's a little steep IMO, but those of you asking for him to be rewarded and/or encouraged are missing the larger point.
jc
Are you suggesting that we cancel the national defense programs? Pfft...
Back on topic, there is a burning human need to explore, to further itself. At an academic level, it increases the knowledge of the race. At a practical level, it prevents eventual extinction. We gotta get off this rock eventually, no reason to wait until it's a problem IMO.
You are mistaken on that. There is a group of us here where I work that live, eat, and breathe our code. It's quite proprietary, but that doesn't make us any less proud of it.
jc
On the contrary, the money is in the treatment. Prolonging the disease makes for residuals. Look at all the money made on Polio these days...
jc
On the contrary, it promotes recognition and confidence. If the best browser in the world looks like it was thrown together on the outside, it will most certainly be disregarded by the majority of those who have used it.
Don't be so short sighted.
The only reason it wouldn't allow an legitimate e-mail though is because the MTA sending it doesn't comform to the SMTP spec. That's the "practically".
If you think there is a single perfect solution, you're foolish at best.