I thought 96 kbps was "lo-quality" for internet radio and other streaming audio since at least 2004 or so...
You've hit the nail on the head. In the old days of MP3, 96kbps was considered a "low quality" bitrate. We're now many years later, and various encoders have matured to the point where some of us feel that it's worth testing to see how they fare.
1. IAAL, (who has both prosecuted and presented continuing education on copright) which you can tell by:
2. Disclaimer: No attorney-client relationsihp is formed by the dissemination of the following information. If you actually wish to pursue any legal action contact an attorney in your jurisdiction first.
3. A school official (administrator/teacher/etc.) needs reasonable cause to search or seize a student/his belongings.
4. If it was a notebook provided by the school, no violation of rights. If it was your notebook, she took your stuff, that is theft (a crime) and conversion (or trespass to chattels), both torts (civil wrongs).
5. In any case, the entry of the backpack is probably not justified--unless she first asked you to return the school's notebook and you didn't give it back and she had cause to suspect it was in your pack.
6. All the copyright ranters (mostly on Slashdot): First, copyright is irrelevant to the physical object theft and the invasion of privacy. Even if we assume the student had no copyright and the teacher had copyright in the information in the notebook, the physical object can't just be seized by a private party without court order. Yes, when copyright is infringed a plaintiff can file suit and obtain a court order allowing seizure and/or destruction of the property but, before the court orders that seizure or destruction, the property is still the defendant's. The feds (or other law enforcers), if dealing with criminal copyright investigations can seize earlier (e.g., searching a house with a warrant and taking out the computers used to distribute copies of a movie without permission), but you weren't dealing with the feds. In any case...
7. There's nothing to indicate a plausible allegation of infringment (see 8), much less criminal infringment (willful infringment for personal gain).
8. In fact, it's most likely that the copyright belongs to the student. The teacher is communicating information. The student arranges that information in his notes, selecting and storing what information to keep and in what order. This makes the student the copyright holder of the arrangment of the information. To those who would argue it is the teacher's or textbook's information: remember (section 102(b)) what isn't copyrightable--processes, orders, etc... and factual information is generally not the subject of copyright under the merger/scenes a faire doctrines... thus the teacher and textbook publisher had thin copyrights in their publications/assertions (protecting their arrangments and annotations) and the students arrangment of that information is his copyright. (To those who said the teacher cannot copyright her work it's the US Government--federal--that cannot under Title 17. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any law extending that to the states (or cities or smaller governments or parts thereof such as school districts but if you would care to correct me, I welcome you to do so (subject to the restriction in the next paragraph).)
9. Please do not respond to any part of this telling me I'm wrong unless you, too, have a bar card. (I have simplified a few things, yes, but the rules are right.)
10. Please someone post this on the Slashdot thread as/. is not letting me log in right now.
11. What you need to do: 1. Get your parents on your side. 2. Talk to higher school officials (VP/Principal/Dean/maybe even superintendant if not pleased).
12. It actually may be worth it to make a case out of it if the teacher teaches enough students (class action civil rights lawsuit). See paragraph 2.
This whole argument strikes me with this odd thought:
Some Peer-to-Peer protocols (i.e., BitTorrent) were developed in order to take the burden of content distribution _away_ from the "dedicated server" (do reduce demand on bandwidth) and push it more on the users engaged in retrieving.
Comcast and ilk seem to be arguing in favor of the _exact opposite_ of this point.
Liberal China? I hope that was sarcastic, since China is still a communist semi-dictatorial state. Last I knew, free press didn't exist and it was illegal to have a religion.
"I'm amazed that in a discussion like this nobody ever brings up the Vorbis codec. Even if it's not perfect, it's pretty damn good, even at ~64kbps."
So true. I use Ogg Vorbis for encoding exclusively. Not only is it slightly superior to MP3 as a compression format, it is also open source, which means that the public can help make it better.
"Oh yeah, and what about FLAC? FLAC, being lossless, is ***PERFECT*** in terms of sound quality. A lot of people trade in a lossless codec like FLAC. What the hell happened to talking about them?"
Short answer; in fact, your answer: "People just tend to use MP3 as a poster child." Simply put, most people only *know* about that specific format. It's a shame, in a way. With all the other formats, the one that is most controlled is the most popular.
"While I'm ranting, why don't we discuss independent labels? PEOPLE, ORDER CDS FROM INDEPENDENT LABELS. The independents are losing money out the brick walls because the artists' listeners are converting to piracy to get their music fix, which is due to resellers refusing to carry independent labels."
I couldn't agree with you more. Since I listen largely to the Metal genre, most of my labels are either independant or Europe-based, so they don't (with a few exceptions) fall under the RIAA umbrela. Independent labels and self-producing artists usually *don't* have the money necessary to take needed actions towards reclaiming lost revenue, at least on the scale that RIAA labels do.
I suppose I should give a point to this post, so here it is: Help bring the lessers into the forefront. Too long have just-as-good-as-if-not-better encoders Ogg Vorbis and FLAC (now both under the Xiph umbrella, by the way) sat in MP3s shadow, emerging only for those who are truly interested in moving forward in the audio world. Also, support independant artists and labels.
Some info links: http://www.vorbis.com/ http://flac.source forge.net/ --
I've seen all you guys write that this is a hoax. Well, let's turn this into an about.com thing: Can someone explain why this is a hoax to me, please? Email and/or reply in/.
You mean Rockman? Okay, okay, so that's the Japanese name for him, but maybe MegaMan is getting a bit quaint and/or cliche? Just my opinion: don't bash me on this one. Emails welcome!
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96khz
96kbps. We're talking about encoding bitrate, not sample rate.
"Public" in this sense is used to mean not private, meaning anyone with access to a computer and knows about it can participate.
Oh wait, you were trying to be funny? Oops.
How dare they ask you to do things when also asking you to donate your time to do things.
No opinions involved. This uses the double-blind ABX approach.
I thought 96 kbps was "lo-quality" for internet radio and other streaming audio since at least 2004 or so...
You've hit the nail on the head. In the old days of MP3, 96kbps was considered a "low quality" bitrate. We're now many years later, and various encoders have matured to the point where some of us feel that it's worth testing to see how they fare.
Perhaps you look at some of the old listening tests.
One big thing that plays AAC: Blu-Ray. Not that the 96kbps range is relevant for that, but the point still stands.
Lame is its own thing. Based on Fraunhaufer, but still it's own thing.
In either case, this test is about AAC, not MP3.
The FBI's position is that they don't need a warrant to track where a car is going.
That does not make them right.
Except for the ~75% (I forget the exact figure; this is a guess based on my memory of the figures) playerbase who purchased Cataclysm, surely?
What, exactly, do you think that "insurance" file is?
You mean:
while (true) {
print "FUCK";
}
Not all programming languages equate "true" to "1". It would be better to code precisely.
If this man's doctor seriously suggested using Wii Fit as part of his rehabilitation, I think he should find a new doctor.
Incidentally, that's EXACTLY whom the Second Amendment was designed to protect us against.
You seem to have "fact" and "truth" confused. Wikipedia is about facts. If you want truth, go talk to your local religious leader and/or philosopher.
The following is a post from the source message board reposted here at the request of the author.
Author: themagicbean
Post Date: 1/25/2008, 17:34 [-6:00]
Source: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4464985&postcount=65
1. IAAL, (who has both prosecuted and presented continuing education on copright) which you can tell by:
2. Disclaimer: No attorney-client relationsihp is formed by the dissemination of the following information. If you actually wish to pursue any legal action contact an attorney in your jurisdiction first.
3. A school official (administrator/teacher/etc.) needs reasonable cause to search or seize a student/his belongings.
4. If it was a notebook provided by the school, no violation of rights. If it was your notebook, she took your stuff, that is theft (a crime) and conversion (or trespass to chattels), both torts (civil wrongs).
5. In any case, the entry of the backpack is probably not justified--unless she first asked you to return the school's notebook and you didn't give it back and she had cause to suspect it was in your pack.
6. All the copyright ranters (mostly on Slashdot): First, copyright is irrelevant to the physical object theft and the invasion of privacy. Even if we assume the student had no copyright and the teacher had copyright in the information in the notebook, the physical object can't just be seized by a private party without court order. Yes, when copyright is infringed a plaintiff can file suit and obtain a court order allowing seizure and/or destruction of the property but, before the court orders that seizure or destruction, the property is still the defendant's. The feds (or other law enforcers), if dealing with criminal copyright investigations can seize earlier (e.g., searching a house with a warrant and taking out the computers used to distribute copies of a movie without permission), but you weren't dealing with the feds. ...
In any case
7. There's nothing to indicate a plausible allegation of infringment (see 8), much less criminal infringment (willful infringment for personal gain).
8. In fact, it's most likely that the copyright belongs to the student. The teacher is communicating information. The student arranges that information in his notes, selecting and storing what information to keep and in what order. This makes the student the copyright holder of the arrangment of the information. To those who would argue it is the teacher's or textbook's information: remember (section 102(b)) what isn't copyrightable--processes, orders, etc ... and factual information is generally not the subject of copyright under the merger/scenes a faire doctrines ... thus the teacher and textbook publisher had thin copyrights in their publications/assertions (protecting their arrangments and annotations) and the students arrangment of that information is his copyright. (To those who said the teacher cannot copyright her work it's the US Government--federal--that cannot under Title 17. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any law extending that to the states (or cities or smaller governments or parts thereof such as school districts but if you would care to correct me, I welcome you to do so (subject to the restriction in the next paragraph).)
9. Please do not respond to any part of this telling me I'm wrong unless you, too, have a bar card. (I have simplified a few things, yes, but the rules are right.)
10. Please someone post this on the Slashdot thread as /. is not letting me log in right now.
11. What you need to do: 1. Get your parents on your side. 2. Talk to higher school officials (VP/Principal/Dean/maybe even superintendant if not pleased).
12. It actually may be worth it to make a case out of it if the teacher teaches enough students (class action civil rights lawsuit). See paragraph 2.
This whole argument strikes me with this odd thought:
Some Peer-to-Peer protocols (i.e., BitTorrent) were developed in order to take the burden of content distribution _away_ from the "dedicated server" (do reduce demand on bandwidth) and push it more on the users engaged in retrieving.
Comcast and ilk seem to be arguing in favor of the _exact opposite_ of this point.
Which, to my knowledge, is a federal offense.
If I had $10 for every hour I've wasted on a MUD, I'd have enough money to develop and host my own for a few years.
MUDs are the backbone of role play on the Internet. They should not be ignored and left to die like a starving animal in the wilderness.
Liberal China? I hope that was sarcastic, since China is still a communist semi-dictatorial state. Last I knew, free press didn't exist and it was illegal to have a religion.
Actually, the DCMA was petitioned by the MPAA. Minor nitpick, I know, but significant when you consider the content.
"I'm amazed that in a discussion like this nobody ever brings up the Vorbis codec. Even if it's not perfect, it's pretty damn good, even at ~64kbps."
e forge.net/
So true. I use Ogg Vorbis for encoding exclusively. Not only is it slightly superior to MP3 as a compression format, it is also open source, which means that the public can help make it better.
"Oh yeah, and what about FLAC? FLAC, being lossless, is ***PERFECT*** in terms of sound quality. A lot of people trade in a lossless codec like FLAC. What the hell happened to talking about them?"
Short answer; in fact, your answer: "People just tend to use MP3 as a poster child." Simply put, most people only *know* about that specific format. It's a shame, in a way. With all the other formats, the one that is most controlled is the most popular.
"While I'm ranting, why don't we discuss independent labels? PEOPLE, ORDER CDS FROM INDEPENDENT LABELS. The independents are losing money out the brick walls because the artists' listeners are converting to piracy to get their music fix, which is due to resellers refusing to carry independent labels."
I couldn't agree with you more. Since I listen largely to the Metal genre, most of my labels are either independant or Europe-based, so they don't (with a few exceptions) fall under the RIAA umbrela. Independent labels and self-producing artists usually *don't* have the money necessary to take needed actions towards reclaiming lost revenue, at least on the scale that RIAA labels do.
I suppose I should give a point to this post, so here it is: Help bring the lessers into the forefront. Too long have just-as-good-as-if-not-better encoders Ogg Vorbis and FLAC (now both under the Xiph umbrella, by the way) sat in MP3s shadow, emerging only for those who are truly interested in moving forward in the audio world. Also, support independant artists and labels.
Some info links:
http://www.vorbis.com/
http://flac.sourc
--
The guy insulted Slashdot, and got moderated out as "Flamebait." The irony is hilarious! (Just an observation!) Alpha.
I've seen all you guys write that this is a hoax. Well, let's turn this into an about.com thing: Can someone explain why this is a hoax to me, please? Email and/or reply in /.
You mean Rockman? Okay, okay, so that's the Japanese name for him, but maybe MegaMan is getting a bit quaint and/or cliche? Just my opinion: don't bash me on this one. Emails welcome!