>sounds like you have a choice of whether to use the rebate directly at Iomega's on-line store, or to buy somewhere else and mail it in
The letter says:
...may be redeemed through Iomega's online store (www.iomegadirect.com) instantly, or through any authorized Iomega retail channel on purchased made after the Settlement Effective Date.
Still not much of a choice; you can buy direct and have the rebate instantly deducted from a price that is inflated above the rebate amount compared to other online stores, or you can buy at somewhere like CompUSA and mail in the rebate.
I still think it sucks. Now I have to go shop around for a lower price _and_ have to wait 4-8 weeks for the rebate check to come in the mail?
They may as well have sent a one line letter saying 'Ha Ha, you are f*cked!' for all the good this settlement does me.
>you have to buy more products which by a company who just admitted to have produced defective products
Nope. They aren't admitting anything.
"Iomega denies any liability or wrongdoing which is alleged in the Complaint..."
Man I hope this settlement is rejected, not because I'm hoping to finally get my defective drive replaced, but because I want to see these rat-bastards get raked over the coals.
Wonder what the likelyhood of the plaintiffs actually winning this suit, and what the judgement would be? Hell, this 'settlement' is nothing (well, maybe the lawyers are getting paid).
bleh, not even worth it just to make them follow through with honoring the settlement. I'd say they are walking out of this one with a slap on the wrist. Then again, this is their proposed settlement, do we have to accept this proposal? Do the lawyers representing the class still have to approve this or can they/will they still pursue the litigation?
I have two drives, one I bought in '97 that has the click-death disease and a second I got last year for $40 as a 'refurbished' model. The newer one is parallel port and can read the discs that the old one clicks on. I wasn't able to get the data off them, but once I reformatted them, they work fine.
That PoS old one is only good for a $5 rebate on the purchase of six Zip disks, according to the settlement letter I got in the mail yesterday. Poo!
The letter I got has a 'proof of claim' section that asks for name, address, date of purchase, serial number and email, and then there is a 'proof of manifestation' section that asks a few questions:
1) Have you experienced a CONTINUAL clicking noise when attempting to use your Zip drive?
2) Does the drive make continual clicking noise regardless of which Zip disk is inserted?
3) Has your drive failed to read and write data after making a continual clicking noise?
...then at the bottom you get to sign in blood:
I,__________ [please print your name], attest and represent, under the pains and penalties of perjury, that the answers provided herein are true and correct.
Signature:___________
Then you can have them mail you a rebate form:
lowest is $5 for six Zip 100 disks and the highest is $40 toward the purchase of a Zip 250 and 6-pack of 250 disks.
...so, are you saying this problem doesn't exist? Gee, you sound just like Iomega support when I called.
I bought a drive years ago from exabyte in a so-called 'nest' hot-swappable kit. I had several disks go bad on me with this "click death", and I lost some data and was pretty put-out. Exabyte support referred me to Iomega who gave me the royal run-around.
In the end I gave up and the drive is sitting on a closet shelf somewhere.
I got my letter in the mail yesterday. When I first started the 4 pages of legalese, I was expecting to get some small cash settlement in exchange for some proof of purchase or something.
BUT, I was apalled to find out that the 'proposed settlement' is for rebates on iomega product purchases!?
You gotta be fscking kidding me! To get any remedy at all for this defective product, I am expected to buy something else and hope to get a rebate?
I'm more cheesed-off now than when I went round with Iomega on this in the first place! I had completely forgotten about this whole thing, this does nothing for me now except to remind me of how putrid Iomega was about all of this!
Really excellent expose' on the DeBeers cartel and how they create an artificaial scarcity of diamonds worldwide to keep prices from falling below that of aluminum.
Thank you. I was thinking the same and was about to make a similar reply.
Society does seem to have an inaccurate image of what rape is about, that the rapist picks out a pretty woman at random because he really wants to have sex with her and just forces himself on her because he is really horny.
Nope, it is about hatred of women. It is about attacking and humiliating them.
What brought this to mind is the college acquaintance (sp?) that was raped. Double amputee in a wheelchair. Doubt very much the guy picked her out because of how she looked.
I've come across hot or not before but never really took a look at it. I went back after reading this post expecting to see something, how shall I say, explicit... but after spending 10 minutes, I didn't see any pornography.
I saw lots of pictures of people with a 1-10 rating. Assigning a numerical value to an individual based on appearance might be somewhat shallow, but I don't see the harm in it and it sure isn't "worship of the flesh".
And it sure doesn't seem like/. is promoting this based on its content, more on the open-source-buzzword tools that was used to put the site together quickly.
Now I have reached the 'inescapable' conclusion that I have spent far too much time responding to a troll.
Yep, this is what I remember about the Foxbat story from the Discovery Channel;-)
The story also said that the CIA fed intelligence to the Pentagon that said the 25 was being made from some wildly exotic composite technology and they postulated all kinds of capabilities that required some kind of counter, the F-15 program.
When Belenko drove his Foxbat to Japan and they took a good look at it, they realized it was constructed of much more conventional materials and so the capabilities that the F-15 were designed to counter were non-existant.
Well, yeah... if you are the Chinese (or CNN) then it is a 'spy-plane'. Intelligence agencies send spies into countries to gather information, kill enemy agents, sabotage equipment, etc. You catch one, you shoot him and his government pretty much expects this.
Spy-planes fly through a foreign country's airspace to take pictures. You shoot SAMs at it and if one comes down the government pretty much expects this.
This plane was flying around outside China recording data on electronic emissions that the Chinese were careless enough to let leak out to sea. That doesn't seem like spying to me.
I'm sure the Chinese don't like it, but tough.
Tables are turned and an electronic surveillance craft is operating in international airspace out over the Atlantic 200 miles from D.C. - We send up a couple of F-16s to keep tabs on them and make sure they don't wander into US airspace. I'm pretty sure we don't go out and play chicken (try to drive them off). If we happen to have a collision and they end up landing at JFK though, I have a hard time imagining we act much different than the Chinese (stall, demand apology, stall, take apart their plane, stall...)
>the hemp you grow to smoke is "sinsemilla"... that's Spanish for NO SEEDS
Funny, seems like all (most) of the pot I ever smoked had plenty of seeds, but then that was quite a while ago.:-)
Mind you, the best stuff was the kind that was green or reddish with few or no seeds, but we smoked plenty of brown pot that had tons of seeds. Sheesh, I remember using double-folded album covers to separate out the seeds (Quadrophenia comes to mind). I don't think the definition of 'hemp you grow to smoke' is not having seeds.
Clearly there is a great deal of difference between the crap the Navy grew for ropes and the stuff grown in California or Hawaii or Panama that goes for hundreds of dollars an ounce. But I don't think presence of seeds makes it a different plant.
Yes, sneakers and real genius are two of my favorite movies. One of my favorite characters is the ex-cia/nsa/whatever guy (Crease, I think)played by Sydney Poitier. How he ever got mixed up with this group in the first place is anybody's guess.
Ah, yes... Seatec Astronomy; one of the best moments in the film is when Redford is using a scrabble set to try and figure out what that means while the blind guy and River Phoenix (I think?) are discovering the true nature of the device.
"anyone want to crash a 747?" "anyone want to shut down the power grid?" "...anyone want to bankrupt the republican party?"
>What this lawsuit says is that people who see a violent film and then commit a violent act are innocent. Is this reasonable?
Um, no. But that isn't what the appeal judgement said. The guys who ran a website pointing out the Doctors who performed abortions do not have to pay $109 Mil because others who saw their website went and killed doctors. A court had originally said that they were guilty of inciting to violence, this appeal judgement overturned that. (from the way _I_ read it)
So to put it in your terms is that those who make a violent film and then members of the audience are inspired to go commit murder are innocent.
Slashdot Mirror
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But no, alas.. he is Yu Suzuki posting under a different name, apparently.
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http://slashdot.org/articles/00/06/25/0230223.s
(look at post #44)
Replace government search-engine with IP exhaustion an you have some instant karma whoring!
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The letter says:
Still not much of a choice; you can buy direct and have the rebate instantly deducted from a price that is inflated above the rebate amount compared to other online stores, or you can buy at somewhere like CompUSA and mail in the rebate.
I still think it sucks. Now I have to go shop around for a lower price _and_ have to wait 4-8 weeks for the rebate check to come in the mail? They may as well have sent a one line letter saying 'Ha Ha, you are f*cked!' for all the good this settlement does me.
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Ah, _that_ must be what made it so 'informative'. sheesh
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Nope. They aren't admitting anything.
"Iomega denies any liability or wrongdoing which is alleged in the Complaint..."
Man I hope this settlement is rejected, not because I'm hoping to finally get my defective drive replaced, but because I want to see these rat-bastards get raked over the coals.
Wonder what the likelyhood of the plaintiffs actually winning this suit, and what the judgement would be? Hell, this 'settlement' is nothing (well, maybe the lawyers are getting paid).
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Ohhh, good idea... get your pound of flesh, eh?
Only problem I see is that you have to buy direct from them and they seem to overcharge by about 20%-50% compared to, say egghead or something.
Quick check, $105 for a SCSI* at egghead, $150 at iomega
bleh, not even worth it just to make them follow through with honoring the settlement. I'd say they are walking out of this one with a slap on the wrist. Then again, this is their proposed settlement, do we have to accept this proposal? Do the lawyers representing the class still have to approve this or can they/will they still pursue the litigation?
*item 10933
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(hey, they figure we were dumb enough to buy their products the first time...)
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That PoS old one is only good for a $5 rebate on the purchase of six Zip disks, according to the settlement letter I got in the mail yesterday. Poo!
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1) Have you experienced a CONTINUAL clicking noise when attempting to use your Zip drive?
2) Does the drive make continual clicking noise regardless of which Zip disk is inserted?
3) Has your drive failed to read and write data after making a continual clicking noise?
I,__________ [please print your name], attest and represent, under the pains and penalties of perjury, that the answers provided herein are true and correct.
Signature:___________
Then you can have them mail you a rebate form:
lowest is $5 for six Zip 100 disks and the highest is $40 toward the purchase of a Zip 250 and 6-pack of 250 disks.
um.... no thanks.
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...so, are you saying this problem doesn't exist? Gee, you sound just like Iomega support when I called.
I bought a drive years ago from exabyte in a so-called 'nest' hot-swappable kit. I had several disks go bad on me with this "click death", and I lost some data and was pretty put-out. Exabyte support referred me to Iomega who gave me the royal run-around.
In the end I gave up and the drive is sitting on a closet shelf somewhere.
I got my letter in the mail yesterday. When I first started the 4 pages of legalese, I was expecting to get some small cash settlement in exchange for some proof of purchase or something.
BUT, I was apalled to find out that the 'proposed settlement' is for rebates on iomega product purchases!?
You gotta be fscking kidding me! To get any remedy at all for this defective product, I am expected to buy something else and hope to get a rebate?
I'm more cheesed-off now than when I went round with Iomega on this in the first place! I had completely forgotten about this whole thing, this does nothing for me now except to remind me of how putrid Iomega was about all of this!
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nice troll, though
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Really excellent expose' on the DeBeers cartel and how they create an artificaial scarcity of diamonds worldwide to keep prices from falling below that of aluminum.
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Society does seem to have an inaccurate image of what rape is about, that the rapist picks out a pretty woman at random because he really wants to have sex with her and just forces himself on her because he is really horny.
Nope, it is about hatred of women. It is about attacking and humiliating them.
What brought this to mind is the college acquaintance (sp?) that was raped. Double amputee in a wheelchair. Doubt very much the guy picked her out because of how she looked.
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I've come across hot or not before but never really took a look at it. I went back after reading this post expecting to see something, how shall I say, explicit... but after spending 10 minutes, I didn't see any pornography.
I saw lots of pictures of people with a 1-10 rating. Assigning a numerical value to an individual based on appearance might be somewhat shallow, but I don't see the harm in it and it sure isn't "worship of the flesh".
And it sure doesn't seem like
Now I have reached the 'inescapable' conclusion that I have spent far too much time responding to a troll.
Nice one.
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The story also said that the CIA fed intelligence to the Pentagon that said the 25 was being made from some wildly exotic composite technology and they postulated all kinds of capabilities that required some kind of counter, the F-15 program.
When Belenko drove his Foxbat to Japan and they took a good look at it, they realized it was constructed of much more conventional materials and so the capabilities that the F-15 were designed to counter were non-existant.
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Spy-planes fly through a foreign country's airspace to take pictures. You shoot SAMs at it and if one comes down the government pretty much expects this.
This plane was flying around outside China recording data on electronic emissions that the Chinese were careless enough to let leak out to sea. That doesn't seem like spying to me.
I'm sure the Chinese don't like it, but tough.
Tables are turned and an electronic surveillance craft is operating in international airspace out over the Atlantic 200 miles from D.C. - We send up a couple of F-16s to keep tabs on them and make sure they don't wander into US airspace. I'm pretty sure we don't go out and play chicken (try to drive them off). If we happen to have a collision and they end up landing at JFK though, I have a hard time imagining we act much different than the Chinese (stall, demand apology, stall, take apart their plane, stall...)
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Funny, seems like all (most) of the pot I ever smoked had plenty of seeds, but then that was quite a while ago.
Mind you, the best stuff was the kind that was green or reddish with few or no seeds, but we smoked plenty of brown pot that had tons of seeds. Sheesh, I remember using double-folded album covers to separate out the seeds (Quadrophenia comes to mind). I don't think the definition of 'hemp you grow to smoke' is not having seeds.
Clearly there is a great deal of difference between the crap the Navy grew for ropes and the stuff grown in California or Hawaii or Panama that goes for hundreds of dollars an ounce. But I don't think presence of seeds makes it a different plant.
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ok, where is that guy that has that as his
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Ah, yes... Seatec Astronomy; one of the best moments in the film is when Redford is using a scrabble set to try and figure out what that means while the blind guy and River Phoenix (I think?) are discovering the true nature of the device.
"anyone want to crash a 747?" "anyone want to shut down the power grid?" "...anyone want to bankrupt the republican party?"
Sh*t, man I gotta rent that this weekend!
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ugh, that made no sense - tried to say the filmmakers are innocent of any crime.
What I want to know is, did they catch the guys killing the doctors and bobming the clinics and if so, what happened to them?
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Um, no. But that isn't what the appeal judgement said. The guys who ran a website pointing out the Doctors who performed abortions do not have to pay $109 Mil because others who saw their website went and killed doctors. A court had originally said that they were guilty of inciting to violence, this appeal judgement overturned that. (from the way _I_ read it)
So to put it in your terms is that those who make a violent film and then members of the audience are inspired to go commit murder are innocent.
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Or was it because inside is a subscription site?
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