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webword writes: "Web Techniques is running an interesting article written by James Hong, one of the masterminds behind AmIHotOrNot.com (now known as HOT or NOT?). Before you decide to skip over this, consider that Hong and company used Apache, PHP and MySQL to build their site. They found that these open source tools ran much better on a 700-MHz Pentium III than a quad processor Sun E220. Hong also covers their moderation system, advertising arrangements, and how they were able to scale to handle 1.8 million page views per day after being in operation for a mere 8 days."
This guy is so right. I think user votes should be discarded, and everyone should get a 6. That way, there's no discrimination!
You ideeeeeeeeeot! the whole thing is ment to discriminate against the Uglies! Down with 'em, down I say! What are they doing showing their faces on the internet anyway? That's the whole point of the internet, so they don't have to show their ugly faces in public!!!!!!!
Good grief!!!!
The code would be trivial to duplicate, who cares? The idea is the important part.
I applaud you sir, trolling will never be quite the same again.
"Look at the facts:
- 1% of all North American teenagers have eating disorders.
- 10% of these teenagers will die."
You are so full of shit. There is roughly 50 million teenagers in the U.S. If 1% have experienced an eating disorder at one time that's 500,000 (which, by the way, is at least a factor of 2 to 3 too large), and if 10% of these die from the eating disorder that's 50,000 deaths due to eating disorders. The actual number is 100 to *maybe* 400 deaths per year. Tops.
Or maybe you mean that 10% of these are dying from something else i.e car accidents, in which case you are even more full of shit. The total number of deaths for people in the age groups between 10 to 24 is 19,000 TOTAL. (1998 numbers, see national centor for health statistics, it's on the web) This 19,000 includes both boys and girls and every possible cause of death.
Or maybe you are a troll. (Still though, I just couldn't resist making fun of all the brain-dead knee-jerk lefty slashbots.)
If apache isn't real software, how come oracle uses it?
MySQL is a piece of shit, but Apache is one of the best web servers out there in terms of stability and flexibility (and your WAN dictates more about your server's performance than your web server ever will).
Then why does my 8 way Compaq outperform and out stress test our 24 way 10000? And why does our 32 way Unisys Peecee absolutely crush our 64 way 10000? They all run Oracle 8i. Same database, same disk models - EMC (each system has own disk farm). We are rapidly replacing the Sun stuff - it is neither powerful nor fast relative to the current state of computing on the other side (those peecees you refer to) - and certainly not worth the price. Stability and all the other stuff sun marketing goes on about is the same for both platforms. Have fun in your little world - it is shrinking.
That's one of the things with free software...you are free to use it without helping the community.
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Don't try to understand 'em
Just keep the trollin' random
Get them in a flamewar nice and haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaht
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We cause our de-va-sta-shun
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Post it up, mod it up, troll along, mod it down
post it up, mod it down, slash-dot
Mod it up, reel 'em in, mod it down, flush 'em out
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Slashdot!
Yeah, but your user number has nothing do with when the site started. I am user #277, but that's just because I was the 277th person to sign up for an account once they started offering them.
Slashdot existed long before that in a version without user accounts.
But, of course, you're probably right that they didn't win that award in '94, anyway, so who cares?
You DID NOT READ THE ARTICLE. It has nothing to do with the hardware performance, but rather (according to them) how well the software is adapted to that particular hardware/software combo.
You also have to read that the servers were operated by Rackspace and not by them. I'll suppose that they are quite experienced and able...
"xorandmovornot.com", which is actually a tutorial on the use of logical instructions in assembly language.
Nope. And there is no comparison between a Pentium Anything and a quad-CPU Sun, even if it's the lowly Ultra 80. As a web server, the only quad-CPU Sun box in the same class an any peecee is a sparcstation 20...and I'd rather have the 20. What a crock.
Now, if they want to blame solaris for poor performance, I might be willing to listen. There's nothing wrong with the hardware.
This gets to the fundamental thing people don't understand about measuring the abilities of computers. There are two ways to measure the capability of a systems: speed, and power. They are related but not closely. See, a 5-year-old SparcCenter 2000E with 20 quite slow CPUs and a few gigs of memory is more powerful than the latest and greatest dual 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 peecee and will almost certainly remain more powerful than even the most expensive and fancy peecee for many years to come.
More powerful. Not necessarily faster. Power measures how much work it is possible for the machine to do in a given amount of time. Power is a general measure that assumes you are running a wide variety of different kinds of jobs, or perhaps a large number of similar ones. When measuring power, you must assume that the load of a system should be at least 0.9 per CPU all the time, and that large amounts of data may need to be moved around. Moving data and sustaining high loads for long periods of time without degradation of responsiveness is an indication of power. That SC2000E can serve many millions of pages a day without breaking a sweat. That's power.
Speed, on the other hand, is a concrete measure of the time it takes to run a certain single linear task, such as a kernel compilation or serving a single page to a single client. This measure rarely places any premium on scalability or the ability to move data. Instead, this measure is typically dependent on the speed of the single fastest CPU in the system. Peecees have great speed - the CPUs are clocked very high and execute very complex instructions. Sun systems do not generally fare very well in this area, especially compared to cost.
The design goals of a Sun are evident from the specifications of the systems - buses are wide, not fast. Latencies can be quite high. CPUs are clocked fairly low and execute simple instructions. The system is designed to allow tremendous throughput - power. Load up on memory, disk controllers and storage, and CPUs, and the huge buses will deliver data well as the load rises. For a web server, for example, serving a single page to a single client is fairly slow compared to a machine with greater speed - remember, a single linear task. But serving one more page beyond the 5000 already being served is where the Sun will really shine. The peecee's memory bus will be saturated quickly; it is clocked fast - much faster than the memory itself in most cases - but is fairly narrow, and the system buses contain bottlenecks. The system was designed for speed, not power. The Sun, meanwhile, can serve the 5001st page nearly as quickly as the 1st. That is the difference between speed and power. The inability or unwillingness to understand the difference between the two is the *only* reason there are peecees in server rooms.
Every system has certain design goals. Peecees and peecee-like systems are designed for single linear tasks - the kind you find desktop computers generally do. Because people - especially traditional nontechnical peecee users - generally do not multitask very well, there is no sense designing their architecture for power. Instead, designing for speed makes more sense. In the server room, however, the exact opposite is true. Unless you're expecting very light use of services, the speed of a system is meaningless; power should be the main design criterion. Using an architecture designed for a completely different problem space just because it happens to look cheap (I won't even start on TCO issues with peecee servers...) is entirely inappropriate. I would fire a sysadmin who recommended peecees for a server environment.
and solaris is a bloated pig.
Yep. For systems with four or fewer CPUs I generally recommend linux. Linux on Suns is as stable as solaris if not more so, and the scalability issues don't generally come into play until 6-8 CPUs or so (with recent kernels). For larger configurations, the very design characteristics that make solaris such a dog on smaller boxes make it outperform linux. It all depends on the goals of the system. In most cases, a larger number of smaller systems is more reliable, less expensive, and more responsive than a small number of large systems. Thus, for example, a web server farm might be better designed as a load balancer and 16 Sun 420s running Linux than as a single E6500 running solaris. But that's another issue altogether...
It's not a problem, and it's easily explained. Most likely, there is no vast conspiracy at work here.
First, AmIHotOrNot does calculate your percentiles against everyone else; they probably all have a similar distribution.
Second, that spike is probably from people who load up the site with both "Girls and Guys" and don't notice, when they only want one or the other. They get to your picture, give you a 1, and switch to Girls only...
But whatever the case, assuming no one is out to get you, the percentiles should still be pretty fair, and accurate insofar as they compare you to the rest of the people on AmIHotOrNot...
And if it were 'just a site about rating women', it would probably still belong on Slashdot. Slashdot posts what the editors want to post. Period. "News for Slashdot Editors, Stuff that they think is cool." They've said this on several occasions.
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oooh, there is an X% of people with a drinking problem and Y% of them will die from it, should we therefore ban all sites related to alcohol?
There's a huge problem with this, since the SUN E220R can only take 2 cpu's, not the mentioned 4. Go to store.sun.com, click on servers, workgroup servers, then e220R servers, and finally choose model.
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Ya they guarantee 99.999% uptime reliability!
Oh wait... you must be running a windows 2000 cluster... it must be managed by Microsnot... you must sacrafice a lamb... you must name your firstborn Bill... You must tithe 15% of your anual income to Bill Gates himself...
Oh hell it's not worth it!!
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Hotornot is bad because it reduces the worth of individuals to a score based upon their appearance. There is nothing wrong with appreciating physical beauty per se. There is nothing wrong with "flesh worship" such as pornography, per se. The problem is when the value of individuals is reduced to how closely their physical appearance agrees with the societal norm. There is a difference between a mag like Hustler, which portrays women as stupid sluts; and one like On Our Backs, which portrays women as, well, women, of all different shapes and sizes and kinks, etc. Of course, your "all non-marital lust is bad" worldview doesn't allow you to appreciate that difference. But I digress.
Hotornot is reflective of the lowest-common-denominator thought that marginalizes all aspects of society. Society says: women who are have unique body shapes should spend their money trying to rectify this perceived error. That major label pop music is the best there is. That sitcoms and movies should follow a standard formula so as to exact the most amount of money from the largest amount of people. Everything is reduced to a dollar figure. People don't deserve to have that done to them.
As far as I am concerned, it is this seperation of what society precieves as good and what is truly good that causes most of the problems in society, NOT the fact that that people aren't willing to supress all sexual desire for fear of going to hell.
Anyhow, if you insist on using the Bible as a guide to issues of physical appearance, consider this verse instead -- I think it allows for the condemnation of amihotornot much more eloquently than the fourth commandment:
I'm willing to accept that just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean it's wrong. Are you willing to accept that just because it's in the Bible it doesn't mean it's right?
-Ross
P.S. Has anyone else thought it would be fun to write a bot that goes to amihotornot and randomly assigns a 9 or a 10 to every person? If everyone ran it once a day and the (perhaps already damaged) self esteem of hotornotters goes up, plus it has the added bonus of making the site worthless.
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When I'm on hot or not (which I am very little: it's a major time sink) I rate some people as a 1 either because they're just hidious (which is rare and I assume not the case with you) or because their picture didn't load. Now, that's the real geek in me. I try to rate people based on all available information, and typically just a jpeg doesn't tell you that much about someone, but if it's hosted on a server that can't stay up or handle that much traffic or I don't know what else, then that to me is a very unattractive feature about the person. Besides, they're essentially asking me to rate their appearance blindfolded - what else am I suppose to do? Rate them a 5 I suppose, but what if they're really ugly? I don't know. And I suppose they're some satisfaction in inflicting some statistical anomaly as I find it really amusing when I do this to someone that others rate at like a 9.9 .
So is rating them based on the server that serves up their jpegs any more shallow than hot or not in general? For the uninitiated, that's a retorical question. And incidently, I don't think shallow == bad, but that's a lengthy commentary that I won't even bother to get into (and I suppose that's even more shallow of me). The only other thing I'll say on that subject is that people around here need to lighten up. Enjoy life some more - it's Friday night - have some fun.
Peace,
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Um...'94? I signed up in...what...'98? And look at my user number.
No way.
Waldo
MySQL is not exactly a high-end database. Putting it on a quad-ANYTHING is a waste of hardware. And don't forget about MySQL's poor locking techniques...
OK, so I'm falling for a troll again.
Let us put this in perspective.
This is consenting men and women subjecting themselves to being rated by sex appeal.
This is not rape and murder of women.
Even the slipperiest of slippery slope arguments doesn't connect the two as a matter of fact.
Maybe it's just me being weird, but the older I get, the less stuffy I become about things like pornography, strip clubs and the like. Maybe it's a fundamental realization on my part that most people should just mind their own fricking business.
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I've got most of the code in my "Am I Hooter Not?" WebTechniques column, which appeared two months before these guys were interviewed. Hmm. I wonder who gave the WT editors the idea for this story. {grin}
Which is why amihotornot came online in October while 'amifuckedornot.com' wasn't registered until november....
I love how time works for you.
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Obviously you haven't talked to Sun's engineers about webservers. An E450 will run rings around E3500/4500 with 8 procs. Why?? because the Sun's firmware/chipset is tuned just right for the E450.
Now, how many hits do you think a site like SciFi.com gets? Do you know what kind of hardware it is running on?? I do.
"and how they were able to scale to handle 1.8 million page views per day after being in operation for a mere 8 days."
Yes, but can it handle the slashdot effect?
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Think of how far cosmetic dermatoligy and plastic surgery have come in the past twenty years. Are physical looks uncontrollable anymore?
I'd be scared shitless to post *my* picture on this site, but that's because people tell me I look schitzophrenic or dangerous in pictures.
Give me a few years though, and I may just want to post it. Then maybe I'll change how I look. (I assume I'll rate low.)
Sound shallow? Disgusting? Is buying a beautiful car or keeping your house/garden beautiful also shallow or disgusting?
When apperance becomes as easily changable as one's car or house, why not rate looks?
Don't forget www.howgrossami.net
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Let's see. they're open source tools. They very likely are single threaded, since the vast majority of open source projects are targeted at Linux which is primarily run on single CPU systems (yes, I know, there *are* exceptions, but I'm speaking generally). A Sun E220 has a *maximum* processor speed of 480MHz. Checking SPEC results shows you that for many things, a Pentium III is going to run at something close to parity with an equivalent speed SPARC (again there are exceptions, but I'm not talking about them).
So, you have a 700 MHz CPU against an unnamed, but not possibly more than 480 MHz CPU. I wonder why it would be faster on the 700 MHz system?
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I received a 9.9 before reaching the 200-or-so vote cap for males, and I wasn't showing any cleavage.
There can be only one, McCleod!
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I think trying to tie together rape and sexual attraction is a mistake. It has been shown time and again that rape is a crime of violence, an assault, with sex only being the means, not the goal. Even smart women, ugly women and elderly women get raped. But I suppose I shouldn't confuse you with the facts.
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Oh, give me a break! As if women aren't human beings and are incapable of protecting themselves. Oh yes, let's all get around in a circle and protect the pure delicate women from the sexually crazed, "hungry", men. Gack!
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Actually, it just shows that even if they don't know how to configure Unix that Linux is much better configured out of the box than the Solaris (or SunOS, depending on which version they used). Still a win for Linux, if not as great a win. And they didn't say what speed the four processors were or how much RAM it had relative to the pentium or the disk drive configuration etc, etc.
well, my appearance was rated 8.7 (after approx. 325 votes), so it MUST be a good site!
I doubt you're still reading this thread, but if you are I have a question for you. Is every human who chooses a mate a sinner? Every, and I'm not willing to change my postion on this because you won't be able to provide me with an example otherwise, every relationship is based on an initial superficial estimation. There is no other way for an initial interest to be formed. Now, who makes the estimation, or what superficial quality is estimated is another story.
/. nick also bothers me. How can you claim to know about ethics other than your own? There are infinite viewpoints. You cannot even begin to comprehend all of the possibilities.
Another question: What does the fourth commandment have to do with this? First off, a superficial discrimination isn't nessicarily "body worship". Secondly, there isn't nessicarily any coveting going on here; you can have an opinion on the attractivness of an individual without "wanting" them. And finally, a large percentage of the world population does not believe in the tenants of religions based in judiasim. Just because they don't agree with you doesn't make them wrong.
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19. Can I have your CGI scripts? Can I license your code?
No, and no.
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And the copycat howmanywouldittake.com too.
Somehow I hate that I like hotornot.com. The idea of rating women/men based on appearance is somehow disturbing, but it's somewhat addictive to keep clicking. I wonder if each click hurts/soothes some impressionable girl's opinion of herself.. kind of a weird feeling actually. On a funny note, there is an AYB version of the page too. Enjoy.
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damn, then I am definetly going to hell.
BilldaCat
Having made a couple sites that have gone from zero to hero in a matter of hours (and back to nearly zero after a few months), the more important question I'd ask of the HotOrNot people is how to work with an ISP so that, within hours, you can actually get them to do the prep, installation, and load-balancing required for these 'flashcrowd' sites. All it takes is 8 hours of "SERVER TOO BUSY" before your site's viral momentum is shot to hell and your site will decidedly never be hot.
/.ers would be keenly interested in, considering how often we're on that first wave that will bring down sites that aren't prepared for a sudden onslaught.
I'd think this is a question
Any stories, advice?
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Having articles on Salon.com and so forth sure helps. :) This article would actually be a great *answer* to the recent article about how to get good PR. Sounds like this site did quite well.
A combination of moderate promotion and word of mouth advertising is really the best way to go it seems.
This is also a good reference for companies that want to build high-traffic, *quick* web sites. By quick I mean that during any given limited time interval, there may be a large increase in traffic over the average, then another interval of average traffic. I wonder how many of the managed hosting companies have programs designed to deal with these kinds of sites?
Someone, please, moderate these *major guys down, they are in every story, with the same crap every time...and my fingers have gotten tired of scrolling past them and the follow up comments--please let's all acknowledge that they are just trolls, and not meant for serious comments, and ignore them!
Please? I am fairly sure I have seen at least three of them so far today, and reading there same boring junk is really annoying. Mod them down, don't respond, and the at the least it will be harder to see!
Slackware: old school feel, new school gear.
exactly!
Slackware: old school feel, new school gear.
do I SOUND hot or not and you can get to in from tell me by punching in extension 1-10128
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You can rate men too. In fact, it defaults to rate both men and women. Maybe you should go to the site before posting about it.
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I run the dns for amigothornot.com, and can tell you that the site was not started by the people who started amihotornot.com
But that's not why I'm posting. Your assertion that there can never be another successful community-oriented mass-voting site is absurd. Are you trying to claim that any company that is first to market domination will always dominate that particular market? Microsoft will always dominate the OS market? Cisco will always dominate the networking market?
unpopular hardware? have you ever been in a datacenter? Its like a Sun warehouse.
I know not much about mySql I would guess they had a process which did not make use of the multiple CPUs and then they were surprised that it was quicker on the 700MHz machine rather than the 400ish machine.
Lets try some real tests with real code which uses all the CPUs and some real data. I would be interested to see the results.
I see things a little differently:
blurred picture: -2
picture too small: -4 (amazing how many pictures can't be made out)
headshot: +2 (you can see her face better)
animal in picture: -2 (she's obviously obsessed or weird)
kids in picture: +2 (shows she is warm and caring)
alcohol in hand: 0 (How could that possibly matter?)
alcohol in my hand: +2 (if I drank while I surfed I'm sure they would be more attractive)
can't see face: -4, she sees herself as just a sex object, or has something to hide
looks angry or pouty: -3 (I don't know where the moronic perception that that is attractive came from).
smiling: +1... I don't care what she looks like...
obviously having fun: +1
I guess I have different priorities. All in all, I'd rather surf http://freshmeat.net.
Rick
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
Apparently you do not have a clue whatsoever about what constitute rape in Dutch courts. Let me assure you, the definition is a lot broader than in a lot of other European countries. With regard to the 'screw anything and everything' attitude you refer to, I think looking up the teenage pregnancy incidence in the Netherlands might be enlightening. Somehow I get the feeling you have never been over here at all.
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"Obesity affects more 20 percent of adults and 10-15 percent of children. Nearly 30 percent of adults and 10-14 percent of children are overweight and at risk for obesity. Obesity is responsible for nearly as many preventable deaths as smoking (300,000), and cost society about $100 billion a year according to AOA."
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'nuf said.
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They let anyone post to Slashdot these days, eh?
Thats the same thing as saying there won't be another slashdot oriented site thats as popular as slashdot.
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Well.... to that I say.. of course!
They paved the way with their concept, and they deserve to reap the benefits from it, whatever that might be. This doesn't stop anyone from competeing if they want to, but if they choose to compete on common ground, they should expect to come up short, as they're going to compete against the the incumbant.
Its VERY difficult to unseat the first to bring the niche to market. It takes a company with the power and influence of Microsoft to accomplish this. This is why AOL is still the most prominant internet service provider, and why Intel is still the premiere maker of x86 chips, even if they're more expensive.
However, there is an infinite quantity of new ground to cover. Of course, its hard to say what exactly this would be because nobody has implemented it yet. To succeed you need a little bit of marketing intellegence and a whole lot of luck, but it can happen. From first glance, the amihotornot concept does not seem to be anything that isn't intuitively obvious, but it has the advantage of not offered before with the proper mixture of smoothness and addictiveness. Thus it made it big. If its success has crippled the potential success of "me too!" followers, so be it.
Dream up your own concept. Don't keep scratching the itch that has already been scratched... find a new itch.
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You're an old fuddy-duddy, because amihotornot doesn't really do any of what you claim. Let's take a stroll down a popular street:
1. You see a voloptuous woman.
2. You think "Ooh, I'd like to get her in bed."
3. You stare. (maybe)
4. You might introduce yourself.
Now, simply walking down the street are hundreds of amihotornot'ers who are rating men and women who are simply walking down the street. They know theyr'e being watched. They know their being critiqued. The only thing that's different is that hotornot simply makes it easier to see more people.
Besides, it's all in fun and entertainment, and there's an initial disclaimer. Whoever thinks that their rating is who they really are is an idiot and should deserve whatever consequences may occur.
I live in Central Florida. The real pics are at http://tomcrooze.myip.org
It's a troll, but since it's been moderated up, I'll bite.
Your post makes some bad assumptions:
Saying/thinking that someone is hot does NOT mean:
- you worship the person
- worship the persons look/flesh
- wants (covets) that person
If you walk around and desire whatever you like the looks of, then surely you have some problems. And they're not only of the moral kind!
There is a difference between admiring and wanting.How come these trolls get moderated up? I'll bite again, cause I think it's fun :-)
First, the site is not shallow. It does not claim to judge the person, only the persons look. It's like saying school tests are shallow cause it only judges one part of a persons knowledge.
If you put a lot of seriousness into one school test, or one picture on the net, then I think you might be considered not very deep!
This site must be taken for what it is, pure fun.
Of course, it can be misused and some will take it too seriously, but so can almost everything else in the world.
As for power, you claim:
Let's face it; one can only sit in front of the Internet for so long. After that, it becomes necessary to "up the ante." This is just your claiming it will become 'necessary'. Do you have anything at all to back this up?
You also claim it gives a power-feeling, and that power is a drug. Can you bak this one up?
Even if both claims are correct, the first still do not follow from the second.
You use a standard technique for putting through unsupported points. You make some wrong assumptions, presenting them as the truth. Then you derive your conclusions from these false truths.
If someone should follow the pattern you're describing, that person will most likely already have a lot of serious problems long before becoming addicted to HotOrNot.
I want to experience the power of checking mens rating without actually voting.
Of course I could vote, but I fear I would mess up the scoring since I am not qualified to rate men.
Here's the swedish version of the site: www.megapudding.com.
This one is pretty cool too: All your OS are belong to Bill
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A "Redundant" third post. Is this some sort of Slashdot record?
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thats not true. i work with sun hardware on a daily basis (usually e4500s with 10 cpus / 20 gig ram configs). the real problem is that solaris is slow - if you dont run it on a heavily multiprocessor system (more than 8 cpus) it doesnt run optimally. i think the optimal number of cpus for solaris is around 16...but i could be wrong. anyway, another problem is the ultrasparc - ii's max out around 450MHz and the average piii-700/800 can run nearly twice as fast in linear speed (not number crunching just integers which is what websites use anyway) and since most website code isnt heavily multithreaded you really waste all those extra processors which sit around doing nothing useful. mysql is also not optimised for sun boxes and really screams on linux intel platforms doing linear reads (lamost as fast as linear C reads). now if they had used oracle on solaris with a 10 CPU E4500 with 20 gigs of RAM and heavily multithreaded java code it wouldve blown the crap outta that piii with room to spare...but not for what they were doing (apache/php/mysql with mostly single threaded code).
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This is pretty funny - look at the amount of bandwidth on a quad proc Intel box, and a quad proc sun machine, they're not even close. There's NO WAY an intel machine can handle the disc and ram IO a sun machine can. I'd like to see you put 192GB of ram into an intel machine.
We're not even going to get into alternate pathing...
A windows 2000 cluster managed by MS would cost more then 15% of your annual income.
War is necrophilia.
You are more right then you think.
War is necrophilia.
Yes but large corporations don't pay people to go to amihotornot and rate people. That's a big difference to me.
War is necrophilia.
What's so shallow about ranking appearance?
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Am I Hot Or Not is a site devoted to the facile and superficial estimation of the opposite sex
well, no shit, sherlock.
your post indicates to me that you are a narrow minded christian snob who believes that anything even the slightest bit apart from what *you* believe is automatically wrong. you quote *one* line from the bible, and consider yourself oh-so-righteous becaused you did. well, you might find this uncomfortable, but you're a goob and so is whoever modded you up. if you can honestly say that you've never looked at a member of the opposite sex and made a judgement on pretty/not pretty, cute/not cute, or whatever, then you're a liar too.
no apologies for ranting, people like you piss me off to no end. who the hell are you to tell me what's right and wrong?
Karma only matters to me now and zen.
They must have HORRIBLY misconfigured things on the sun if it actually ran faster on the pentium. For a single processor intel box to outperform a sun server is not a sign of how powerful linux on intel is; it is a sign of the difference between an average joe who knows some unix and a real admin who knows all the tricks for real optimization. I should know, I am one of the aforementioned average joes who knows a bit of unix here and there.
Are you also "religion major" and "ethics major"?
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Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Moderation Totals:Troll=1, Funny=1, Total=2.
... looks like "Religion/Ethics/Sociology/Animal Husbandry Major" got moderator points.
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Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
First point I'll make is that hot or not caters to men and women (or at least it did when I checked it out). Second point is that you are taking this far too seriously. My vote as one of several thousand on whether I think someone is cute is addictive like heroin? Are you listening to yourself? Rest assured, the internet has far worse dangers than Hot or not. Fortunately, no matter how much people like you bitch about them, they won't go away.
Where did all the Morally Outraged Very Serious People come from?? You'd think this was a discussion about open source licencing or something!
To answer the eternal (and inherently stupid) "do we really need this" question: Yes there is a need. It's hard to find out what people think of your appearance. If you're ugly, no one will tell you. If people tell you you look good, they might be lying. Uncertainty breeds insecurity. Here you can get an objective measure. If it's high, you can stop worrying. If it's low, you can do something about it. Knowledge is good.
I submitted some pictures and learned that I got much higher ratings when I smile. May sound obvious, but good to learn anyway.
Good going, genius. By posting you reversed your moderation.
"Well kids, you tried your best, and you failed. The lesson is, never try."
(...slowly weaning the world of an often butchered turn-of-phrase, one person at a time...)
The error notwithstanding, if I had to rate your posting on a 1-to-10 scale, I'd give it a 7.
I'd probably give you a 9 if you were a girl.
It is an interesting subject for speculation. Clearly, the audience for Internet fads/in-jokes like Mahir, All Your Base..., etc. will continue to grow larger and larger as more and more people get on the Internet.
But authoring a fad is an almost impossible task. It would seem that most cases were accidental.
It seems that certain outfits have positioned themselves rather cleverly to monetize some of the fads. Take ThinkGeek. They very recently rolled out an "All Your Base..." t-shirt. One would assume from the prominent placement of the t-shirt on their website and their recent catalog (I'm on the mailing list) that they are selling rather well.
ThinkGeek obviously didn't create the "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" phenom, but they acted very quickly once it was clear it achieved a sort of critical mass. But fads of this sort (based on peculiar, specific in-jokes between net nerds) are very certain to have very short half-lives. As a result, those who author such fads (accidentally or intentionally) don't seem as likely to be positioned to benefit from their own success.
On the other hand, consider the situation of Matt Parker and Trey Stone. They created a South Park short-film, which became a "must-see" piece of entertainment on the Internet. The media began to report on it. Then Comedy Central scooped it up, made the two creators multimillionaires, and rolled out one of their highest-rated series. In this instance, it was transplated from the Internet into the old media system of cable television- then hyped, milked and heavily merchandised.
I think we can expect to see repitions of both of these types of scenarios- essentially, Internet fads that fade as quickly as they came, and Internet fads that become the foundation for a serious commercial enterprise.
'Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife'.
you can't be serious. first off, these people aren't our neighbors. second, no one is coveting anything. it's not wrong to say if someone is good looking or not.
it's DEFINATELY not porn. wow what a troll, and it gets ranked up to 5. that's pathetic.
All I need to do is copy the image or link location (depending on whether it's a banner or text ad), paste it into my SAB config files, `killall -HUP sab`, and WHAM! C'ya rackspace spam! C'ya discounted airline travel!
After I vote you *NOT*, one less ad forever!
I seriously urge you to do this just to get a good laugh, kill ads, and relieve stress all at the same time!
M. R.
Evidently I need to get an eating disorder. Since it seem the mortality rate for normal people is 100%, I stand a much better chance of living while being anorexic!
Grades, Social Life, Sleep... pick two.
--Justin Mitchell
"2nd Place is a fancy word for losing" --Bender (Futurama)
Assuming this post isn't a joke..
'Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife' means that neighbour's wife is the neighbour's property!
You know when you read a post, and it seems all serious until you get to the end, and then you realize it was meant to be Funny? This goes the opposite way.
I think you (as in Slashdot or whoever wrote this article) could have shown the hotornot webmasters a little bit more respect.. I wouldn't exactly like being written off as a "fad website" if I did all that hard work.
Tell me... am I GEEK or NOT ?
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No, you didn't miss it. They don't talk about how much they made. They only talk about how they were able to make money by sending people to image hosting services. I would like to know too.
If they were wise, they would cash out right now, while (pun intended) their site is still relatively hot. That is the trick. It is like hitting the lottery with a very limited window. You rise to the top, then cash out before you fall. If not, then you deserve to fail.
Do you think that this is what Slashdot did? Did they sell out at the right time? What do other folks think? First, did they sell out? Second, if they did sell out, did they do it at the right time?
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Still, you have to admit that they did a lot in a very short amount of time. Maybe they really aren't masterminds, as I indicated in the original posting. But, they had a great idea, they jumped on it, and made it work. That's damn impressive if you ask me.
Now here is the trick. Will they be able to cash out on this? In another post, someone asked if they made money. They also asked how much. Those are good questions. If they were wise, in my opinion, they should sell out right now. Sell out and run with the cash.
This is their one opportunity to make serious cash. Not many people get more than one chance and I doubt that they will. Sure, they might get fat on 401(K)'s in the long run, but this is their lottery ticket. They should cash it in while the numbers match the glowing letters on the display...
What do you think they will do? Get rich or end up in the land of FuckedCompany?
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Trolls are trying to elicit behavior. Your suscetability to their solicitations gives you a score of 1E38.
The message on the other side of this sig is false.
They did not gaze at you.
Maybe that's what trolls thee.
The message on the other side of this sig is false.
"As to power, please explain how this power manifests itself."
It leads to trolling which is equivalent to raping slashdot.
The message on the other side of this sig is false.
Or maybe there's some people who feel that if you're not an Adonis or Pamela Lee, you're butt ugly. The whole site is about being shallow.
Or maybe someone just wrote a Perl script to vote 1s or 2s or 7s, and to copy the pictures of anyone who is consistently rated a 7, 8, or 9. Maybe they ran overnight and skewed the results for that day.
This is a fad site, and the metrics are entirely subjective and non-scientific. Don't analyze the data. And if you're bemoaning a few 1s or 2s on your own photo, they've got you right where they want you: The whole site is about being shallow.
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Oy, the Old Testament is Immutable arguments.
Maybe you haven't read this letter to Dr. Laura Schlessinger. It's been all over, with some alterations, amplifications, and amendments, but for geek-name-dropping-value, I'll provide the link to the version on Richard Stallman's Personal Home Page. (This is also the top link Google gives me, looking for "dr laura leviticus", by the way, beating out Dr. Laura's own home page.)
http://www.stallman.org/dr-laura.html
An excerpt: [Dr. Laura,] I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
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If we really gave a damn about naked women, we'd all be looking at RateYourRack.com
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Hey! Don't start talking trash about the invisible beings in the sky who are responsible for the way things are! The heads of Scientology will have your ass removed!
Oh wait, were you talking about another religion? My bad, I always get my mythical beings mixed up. If only one of the damn things would show themselves already so we don't have to keep track of so many...
Deosyne
Actually, I think it can be rather interesting to see the ratings people get. Some people that I personally find very unattractive recieve high ratings, etc. I just think it's neat to see that a standard we generally assume is absolute in our society can have such wide variations.
A few things- 1st. Since some guy here accused me of being out of shape-I'm in very good shape. I weigh 135 lbs. and can benchpress 200 lbs. second- The spike at 1 and 2 was huge, larger than the mode at 7 that my scores were centered around. I buy into the 'people being stupid and not switching from guys to girls' theory. While I don't care immensely what other people think of me ( I just wanted to meet some people to chat with, which is another feature of the site. ) I thought the trend was relevant. And, of course, I admit I was curious how I'd be rated. But I'm not on here 'complaining.' If the scores were legitamate, that's fine. I just don't think that the evidence supports that. I'm interested whether or not girls see the same trend. Any geek chicks on here willing to suffer the flames of public whimsy for the sake of knowledge?
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It's the end of my comment as I know it and I feel fine.
I posted my picture on amihotornot.com
I think that there may be a problem with their moderation system. Most of my 'ranking' fell in a bell curve around 7. However there was an outlying spike at 1 or 2. Now this could indicate two types of rating styles, perhaps. However given the fact that the site reports back to a user what their percentile ranking is (i.e. where they stand relative to other hotornot-ers) this could be an indication that some people are trying to boost their own scores by giving other people bad ones.
Any good moderation system would need to find some way to prevent that- i.e. but ranking a group of several girls 1st second third, etc.
I realize that this would probably make the whole thing less fun, and it isn't supposed to be scientific to begin with. But if it were 'just a site about rating women' then it wouldn't belong on Slashdot, would it?
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It's the end of my comment as I know it and I feel fine.
And what proof do you have that Bible is God's word?
And while we are at it, what proof do you have that there is a God?
So when is someone going to make a web implementation of that SNL gameshow Food, Sex or Cars?
Here's the transcript if you don't know what I'm talking about.
And while we are at it, what proof do you have that there is a God?
Have you looked for proof? It's right here. Read More
And what proof do you have that Bible is God's word?
I believe it is because it says so throughout. Actually, the real question is "How do we know the Bible is true?" We have over 20,000 copies of New Testament manuscripts alone which serve to corroborate the recorded historical events. This is not to mention secular ancient manuscripts, such as Tacitus and Josephus. Dr. Nelson Glueck, a Palestinian archeologist, said in his publication Rivers in the Desert, "As a matter of fact, however, it may be stated categorically that no archeological discovery has every controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible." Hundreds of prophecies have been fulfilled over the centuries exactly as they were foretold in Biblical manuscripts. Several prophecies are unfolding before our eyes today!
God is a scientist, not a magician. Science has confirmed the Bible time and time again. It is only (humanist) scientists who disagree with the Bible; real science has not and does not contradict the Bible.
Who the hell told you that those people are my neighbours' wives?
A more relevant scripture for ethics major to have quoted is Matthew 5:27-28, where Jesus says,
Also pertinent is 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8: Huh?The Print Edition of my school paper (I work with both Print and Online) did a feature a couple issues ago about this phenomenon.
It's nothing special, just thought I'd give you another perspective on it.
Personally, I'm kind of ambivalent. I had a brief amihotornot addiction (I used it to keep myself awake when doing homework late at night), but eventually grew disgusted with it. I find myself smirking at diehard users, but I really don't care that much.
For those who care about such things, this story ran on the "front page" of the features section, which always has an "outside the box" design. In this case, that page editor took the obvious route and made it up like a web browser (note to self... figure out way to get spiffy page designs into online version). I made some cute browser buttons (in the GIMP ;) ). I don't know where I'm going with this paragraph.
-J
Karma: T-rexcellent.
The fact is AMIHOTORNOT is no less then a work of genius :)
Free Techno/Jazz/DNB/MI Music by guys obsessed with monkeys!
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Free Techno/Jazz/DNB/MI Music by guys obsessed with monkeys!
Gotta face the reality here that its mostly men putting up pictures of women:)
Free Techno/Jazz/DNB/MI Music by guys obsessed with monkeys!
I don't know much at all about database operations, but the poster three previous (to this post) said that suns wern't better when speed was required, or the number of users was 5000. Rather, it was designed for a high volume of small jobs (like webserving or running small scripts, I would guess). Thus, the sun wouldn't even be designed for an use like Oracle hosting _if_ speed/scalability in DB hosting is a high-calculation/speed_needing task. Though, I really don't know what I'm talking about. Just doing my part to alter further the s/n ratio on ./ .
Yes, the true thing of note here is that they've managed to put four CPUs into a machine that Sun only engineered and built to hold two. Perhaps they'd like to explain how they did this. Or, issue a correction and give us (and, dare i hope, /.'s reviewers) cause to more critically examine the veracity of performance claims from people who obviously don't know one of two fundamental things:
1) the model of machine they are using
2) the number of CPUs it holds
For the href paranoid: http://www.amiallyourbaseornot.com/?pic=CABG
I almost fell out of my chair when I saw:
Free Online Woodworking Resources Directory
So are the other 90% immortal? =]
Sorry, pal, but my neighbour's wife is not there so I suppose this site is ok for me :)
The question here is not the content, but the means of providing the content and thats what the article was about. Have a nice day.
If programs would be read like poetry, most programmers would be Vogons.
I am not sure if you got the point. Its not "Am I good looking or not?" Its about being *HOT*. Well, maybe you have different opinion, but according to mine, "mature sized normally attractive lady in her 40ties" is not what I would call hot. And unlike you I was browsing the site at regular basis and I found that these girls with charm and expression and well taken pictures with good resolution have usually higher scores than these half naked dolls.
If programs would be read like poetry, most programmers would be Vogons.
Don't ask me why. I just do. See, I have this recurring dream involving Cowboy Neal, a wading pool full of chocolate pudding, and strangely enough a pile of old load balancers. I wonder if there's something Freudian in that. Oops, did I type that out loud?
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."--Tacitus, *The Annals*
Now, that may sound like an adminition not to put clothes on your neighbours spouse when she is running around the yard naked but what it actually means is that if she creates an act of performance (a song or music), you should not attempt to perform it yourself.
This is why the Jewish run entertainment industry pushes so hard for expansion of copyright laws. It's in their holy book you see. (Technically Christians too but to most Christians, the old testament is just a trailer for the good stuff)
Rich
In the article, James Hong mentioned they used a `State Machine', because it made things simpler. Unfortunately there weren't a lot of details, so I don't quite understand what they've done.
Like every good CS student, I'm familiar with Finite-State Machines (FSA and all that jazz), but I just don't see how that can be used on a website. Anyone have any idea how this works?
Thanks in advance, -g
So you're saying that naked girls are hotter?
That's a hell of a thesis statement. Anyone care to dispute it?
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It's hardly a "bizarre power". It's neither bizarre, nor a power.
How is it any different than walking down the street and commenting to a friend "Hey, she's a hottie?"
As to power, please explain how this power manifests itself.
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No such creature, I'm afraid.
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Yes, I AM an atheist. I did it all for the boobies!
There is an open source AIHON, with working (well, easy enough to get working) PHP source - http://sourceforge.net/projects/amigeekornot/
Alister
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However, HotOrNot is a "context free" metric. You look at a single picture and decide that the person is hot or not. Unfortunately, this isn't all that useful as the answers tend to be very close to either "1" or "10" A much better implementation would be just "thumbs up" or "thumbs down." K5 also suffers from this problem when it asks users to rate comments on a scale of 1 to 5. Keeping it simple would make the ratings much more effective.
Pick the Hottie on the other hand implements a contextual metric. Instead of rating a picture on it's own you look at two pictures and click the one you think is hotter. It's much easier to decide between coffee or tea than it is to rate coffee on a scale of 1 to 10. Effectively the site is sorting pictures using human judgement for the comparison function. This way you get much more useful results. With this system you can get the "Top 10 Hotties." With HotOrNot there are probably thousands of images that are 10.0 or 9.9.
Justin Chapweske of Open Cola gets the credit for pointing out this one.
burris
Regarding your 'AM I HOT OR NOT LEADS TO RAPE. REALLY!!' babble (I can't even classify this as an assertion), my advice is to consider a career in mainstream journalism where there exists a DESPERATE need for your brand of scare-mongering America's dearly beloved soccer moms. Yes it is possible to use Linux or apache for purposes you may not like (Oh my God! Child pornography!! Horrors!! Quick, let's ignore the fact that slaking people's lusts only makes realworld harm LESS LIKELY and go on a jihad against Gnutella, brother!). This does not justify your trying to stampede the herd in a damnably Quixotic fashion - I would be willing to bet my entire next year's paycheck that Am I Hot or Not has caused, to date, absolutely zero rapes. Not to mention that rape is not a buzzword that automatically makes you right to any of the people you're talking to (ie, people who might conceivably agree the service is immature in nature). I think you need to lay off the katie.com pipe here. Small hint: just in case you're new to the game, this kind of behaviour will NOT get you laid. The demographic of women reading slashdot is the same demographic that tends to prefer thoughtful, intelligent people who are capable of maintaining an open mind to a topic. I know this from first hand experience.
People go 'out' in the real world for the sole purpose of rating other people. Rape occurs here all the time precisely because it is the real world and the insulation of the Internet is removed. You sound like you could stand to get out a litte, by the way.
--Ryvar
My girlfriend (whom I met over the 'net) and I wrote this in bed on my, er, laptop, after some really great consensual rape.
I'm pretty sure you're wrong. But hell -- email Pud if you don't believe us. He made amIfuckedornot.com as a spoof of amIhotornot.com.
Gentoo Linux http://gentoo.org/
If they were wise, in my opinion, they should sell out right now. Sell out and run with the cash. I hope they read that, I really, really do.
Prospecting Stinks. Stop Wasting Time on Cold Calling.
I run www.smalldick.org to help oversized men solve their "problem", but am getting few takers.
Wunder why?
Treatment, not tyranny. End the drug war and free our American POWs.
See my user info for links.
likemynudephoto.com, with nudity of course.
So you're saying that naked girls are hotter?
:)
That's a hell of a thesis statement. Anyone care to dispute it?
Well, given the generally accepted fact that the fewer clothes ones wears, the less body heat one retains, I would say that nekid women would tend to be colder.
However, from personal experience, I have never found this to be the case.
- Our system architecture consisted of seven Web servers running Linux, and a Sun E220 that stored our database. One thing we learned through testing was that the open-source tools performed significantly better on a single-processor 700-MHz Pentium III machine running Linux than they did on a quad-processor Sun machine.
The Sun E220 doesn't take 4 processors - two 450MHz CPUs is the limit.Somebody's trolling....
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happy now?
i'm tired of all this crap about the brilliant "masterminds" behind amihotornot. they didn't mastermind anything. it's just two guys "between employment" who ripped off an idea from amihot.com (which is one reason they recently changed their name...ahh domain disputes...)
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The fact that you "get piles of lewd messages/e-mails", coupled together a fairly objective opinion based on a quick review of your site (like my comment #419 above), ought to be an indication that artwork on your public web site that depicts you naked and wearing lingerie is in fact sexually suggestive.
I suppose you also believe that goth fashion and orange hair doesn't make a strong first impression, and neither does "Jin Wicked" (Evil Djinnee).
It's probably also inconcievable that wearing a black leather collar with a D-ring on the front could ever conjure images of a lifesytle like this woman's.
Besides the silly "I can't imagine how anyone could get the wrong idea" attitude, your personal web site is among the most well built and interesting I've seen (though I had to enable javascript to use part of it, because it doesn't handle the case where javascript is disabled).
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Every page of your site, or at least the dozen or so I just looked at briefly, has a left side navigation frame that seems to be cartoon-style depiction of you, naked, except for your hat, collar, wrist watches, jewlery, and some surreal and colorful high-tech body implants; where the nagivation elements cover your breasts and other parts of your body. Your bio page contains an sketch that also appears to be a depiction of you, wearing a thong. On your writing page, the navigation element that covers the depiction of your breasts is in fact a purple-tinted close of a woman's bare breasts (where a javascript onMouseover turns it to the word "Essays"), and likewise a red-tinted photo of a bare bottom appears on the third navigation link.
PJRC: Electronic Projects, 8051 Microcontroller Tools
A great body: +3
Showing some cleavage: +4
Voting your ex-girlfriend a 1: Priceless
There are some things money can't buy...
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We have fought the AC's, and they have won.
"Fuddy-Duddy! Fuddy-Duddy!" (hee)
Mode (3) smart-aleck mode. Press * to return to main menu.
Not as good as Anne Marie. No where near Signal_11. I would give it a 6.5 if not the subject he picked is easy to troll, therefore requires less effort.
Creativity : 5
Believability : 7
Language : 5
Topic : 5.5
Mode (3) smart-aleck mode. Press * to return to main menu.
I'm sick and god damned tired of all you bleeding heart thin-skinned politically correct do-gooders. How is AmIHotOrNot.com any different than going to a bar or pub crusing for women [or men], or for that matter, how is it ANY different than the entire concept of finding a mate? Deny it all you want, but physical appearance the FIRST thing that people notice about someone else, and every single person on this planet assigns a 'hotness' rating to every person they see. You are a liar if you say otherwise. This website is just a reflection of the way society operates, whether you like it or not. Rapists and murderers aren't turned crazy by porn or looking at some pictures of some college girl on amihotornot... they're fucked up long before they see these things. They're wired to be psychopathic, and they'll end up committing their horrible deeds regardless of whether they are provoked by the internet, a book, animals in the zoo or an invisible Leprechaun that tells them to burn things. That's life, my friend, and so is the human instinct that makes amihotornot.com a success.
-Rylfaeth thinks that if he gave this speech in person and was found to be attractive by the listener, they would heed his words more closely. Coincidence? I think not.
That's just a scripting problem with your browser. If you're on the *nix side, this isn't surprising considering each browser has its own best use, but no single browser dominates (i.e. Opera - speed; Konqueror - nice UI; Netscape 4.X - secure; stable enough for online purchasing; Netscape 6.X - pretty, skinable).
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Yup. Here's a breakdown of Hot-or-Not by scores. The notes at the bottom of the page indicate Geocities and Ofoto have attempted to block requests from the site. Can't blame 'em really.
Here's what it feels like to be slashdotted...
DanH
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That's less then one hit a second. according to chad, picture-rate.com has hit several hits a seccond. Running on a pentium 200.
Rate me on Picture-rate.com
"and dear god does this website suck now." -- CmdrTaco
Insightful=3, Interesting=4
Either moderators have a sick sense of humor today, or the problem of antisexuality & antipleasure is bigger than I thought. How is this post any different from someone (say, the Taleban) advocating putting woman in veils, to avoid "temptation" of the flesh?
This troll doesn't surprise me, it's not creative or original in any sense. But that it was moderated up for its insightful/interesting content by 7 people -- that just blows me away.
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As Jim began working on the solution, it occurred to me that some companies might actually want to host peoples' photos and pay us a bounty for sending them users. By directing our users to these companies, we turned one of our major costs into a revenue stream.
I assume that since they receive money for sending users to sign up for Geocities accounts, Geocities is allowing them to do this.
To me, it sounds like Geocities wants people to sign up so that they'll also (hopefully) set up a website, etc. and then people will view their banner ads. I'm sure if Geocities didn't like HotOrNot using them then they would do something to stop it. But that does not appear to be the case.
I've come across hot or not before but never really took a look at it. I went back after reading this post expecting to see something, how shall I say, explicit... but after spending 10 minutes, I didn't see any pornography.
I saw lots of pictures of people with a 1-10 rating. Assigning a numerical value to an individual based on appearance might be somewhat shallow, but I don't see the harm in it and it sure isn't "worship of the flesh".
And it sure doesn't seem like
Now I have reached the 'inescapable' conclusion that I have spent far too much time responding to a troll.
Nice one.
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There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.
Society does seem to have an inaccurate image of what rape is about, that the rapist picks out a pretty woman at random because he really wants to have sex with her and just forces himself on her because he is really horny.
Nope, it is about hatred of women. It is about attacking and humiliating them.
What brought this to mind is the college acquaintance (sp?) that was raped. Double amputee in a wheelchair. Doubt very much the guy picked her out because of how she looked.
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There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.
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Does anyone actually have a Java program designed to control air traffic, or for the operation of a nuclear facility?
What I have noticed is that either I seem to have some kind of beer goggle thing going -- I've seen plenty of very attractive girls that only get sixes and sevens, older women invariably get marked down no matter how attractive they actually are, and nudity is the great equalizer -- women who don't necessarily have much of a face shot but great cleavage get tens even when they don't quite deserve them...
/Brian
amIamulletornot.com
Were that I say, pancakes?
But how will these sites fare in the long run? At this point, it's difficult to tell. Some detractors would argue that these type of sites are nothing more than a passing fancy. However, the Web is a revolutionary alterance in the existing capacity for communication; it allows people to network and fads to begin in ways that our current social understanding may not be prepared to accomodate.
Thus, supporters say that these types of fads are signs of an important step forward for computing and society. With previous information storehouses, users could not take advantage of the most important technological benefits gained from modern-day information research. The Internet, they say, opens the proverbial floodgates by bringing the production of new memes out of Hollywood and into the homes of the every-day user.
There is some probably some merit to both viewpoints. Certainly, society as a whole will encounter some friction as it shifts to accomodate the new types of social leadership provided by the Internet. However, the end result may be worth the infrastructural shifts; existing memes may soon be fated to wither away.
Will these fads sink or swim? The question is still up in the air; with many unique forces and viewpoints at work, we'll likely see many interesting challenges and confrontations for the pioneers in the Internet field. Whatever the final result is, it's sure to give the key players on all sides of the issue a trial by fire.
Green Monkey
I wouldn't get 9.9 if I showed my cleavage. I have bigger breasts than some of the girls :)
Visit amipornornot's sister site - amislashdottedornot.com!
but not an open source friendly site. I've not seen a single line of code released yet. I've got a nice project coming up that I'd like to use the AIHON.com code in (it would be a perfect fit) but the software is not released. Why is the writer and the founder of the site applauding open source software, and yet not releasing their code?
And to think, how much better they could have done if they ran Windows 2000 and enterprise ready software.
Recent statistics have shown that the vast majority of rapists and child molesters have been addicted to Internet pornography.
Hmm, another example of someone who doesn't get statistics. The vast majority of people are addicted to Internet pornography. If you want to show any kind of correlation, let alone causation, you have to show that there is a difference in the pornography addiction percentage between the control and the subject group.
And this sounds far too much like the idea that people are not responsible for their own actions. It's tending towards the idea that a woman dressed provocatively is asking to be raped. Regardless of what this site puts up, there is no way you can give it any moral responsibility for the actions of a bunch of psychos.
the rapes and murders of dozens if not hundreds of women and children
And where's this coming from? Give us some evidence, anything other than a blank assetion. And when did children enter the picture? Granted, I haven't looked over the site yet (Non-business related filter), but are you seriously suggesting that in addition to encouraging rape it encourages paedophilia?
Now you can think whatever you like about the shallowness of this site, and I'll agree, getting off on the approval of strangers is silly. No less silly than a lot of other activities, but silly nonetheless. But accusing this site of generating rapist / paedophilic sentiment is just ridiculous.
mick
As everyone else has pointed out, there is no quad E220... and there is no E220 period. Though there is a dual E220R. I was just thinking about the SGI Origin 200... it's a dual CPU beast in a tower enclosure (lots of drive bays up front) but two can be connected via Craylink/NUMAlink (bidirectional 1.6 GB/sec)and one set to "slave mode" to form one quad cpu machine! Quite cool! And, really, the same concept behind the Origin 2000 and Origin 3000.
Here you go
http://www.AmIAllYourBaseOrNot.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._Election_c
[Insert AmIOpenSourceOrNot Joke Here]
If you don't want my koalas, baby, don't shake my eucalyptus tree.
Heck, just imagine the time lost ramping up for demand when you have to wade your way through moronic purchasing and license agreements. (MS) Or when you have to wait for a proprietary hardware manufacturer (SUN) rather than going to the fastest local parts shop for some motherboards and drives. You take out all the silly stuff, and your time is spent where it's important - configuring and tweaking these fire-tested solutions to maximize your investments in hardware and bandwidth.
Looks like a good article to have at hand the next time some suit comes and tries to sell the Dean on a the "efficiency" of a homogenous, proprietary "whole campus" solution.
-- Niherlas
You're an old fuddy-duddy.
Both the "raters" and "ratees" are engaging in behavior so childish, so juvenile that it defies the imagination.
I agree with the 'shallow' part, it is. But I do not agree with the scornful way in which you describe the practice. The fact is, up to a certain age most people feel insecure about their looks and long for some impartial measure so that they can either run away and hide in a hole forever, or gain some self confidence. Obviously the former is not a good end to the matter, but honesty is what these people wish for and know they can't get from friends/family. I can sympathise and don't see it as some horrible depraved feature of our society, but a simple fact that comes of being human and 'looking for love'. I imagine (hope) that when one gets to a certain age, around 35 or 40 I'd say, and one gets comfortable with themselves and realises what insiginifcant things such measureas are, that they don't care about them. But do not heap scorn upon people who do just because you are fortunate enough not to care.
they are giving people a sort of bizarre power over these people
The power that a rater has over these people is *very* small with women, who usually have several thousand votes depending on the length of time their photo has been up, and quite small with men, who get several hundred. Granted, in the context in which you use the word power, this may not matter to the rater who in the way you portray him/her probably doesn't care about how insignificant their vote is, but just gets off on the fact that they are voting and possibly causing the ratee harm (mental).
However, I have used the site a number of times, just when I am bored and have nothing better to do, and felt no immense power. In fact, as when moderating on slashdot, I felt quite a bit of responsibility to rate fairly, and not, as a previous fanatical poster said 'for the women with the most cleavage showing'. I know that this feeling of responsibility is pretty ridiculous when you consider the frivilous nature of the site, but I felt it a little. I also felt quite alot of guilt when seeing a person who I deemed below average and rated them poorly, so much that I rarely go to the site anymore because I couldn't take the thought of theese people seeing their rating and feeling depressed etc.
Now the point of all this is that I hardly am getting off over some power am I? And I don't feel that I am some supremely abnormal specimen. Of course there are always the odd fucked-up-individual who will go in for that sort of thing, but that can't be helped.
the need to exert this power over strangers on the Internet suddenly becomes the need to exert this power over strangers in Real Life (meatspace.)
I find this assumption unfounded. Not only do I think that most people don't get this power trip by rating the people on the site, but even if they did, the difference between clicking a button and going out committing such acts as you suggest is significant.
Recent statistics have shown that the vast majority of rapists and child molesters have been addicted to Internet pornography.
I've always found this argument hilarious. Anyone ever read hustler or penthouse black label? They've been available for quite some time before the internet, I 'read' a few when I was thirteen and onwards, still haven't raped anyone, got off quite a few times though. Porn-->Rape would make a large majority of males rapists. It's a grand causation fallacy. If you found that a great percentage of rapists read the bible, would you say that religion leads to rape? No, and just because porn and rape both have the common factor of sex is no reason to link the two any more than the common factors of brutality in the bible and rape (read it, theres a shitload).
And please don't try to suggest that the rapes and murders of dozens if not hundreds of women and children are acceptable because the site uses Linux and Apache
Site causes people to feel power over others. People feel need to exert power in real world. Manifests itself as rape and molestation. Site then causes rape and molestation.
Frankly, I don't think a single one of those links is cogent. It is a very poor argument, very poor.
// It had been Fat's delusion for years that he could help people. --Philip K. Dick, Valis
Per Sun's site "Up to two 450-MHz UltraSPARC-II CPUs and 2 GB of memory for high performance and expandability "
www.rateyourcrack.com is better
someone should submit the goatsex picture to the chaps at amihotornot.com. Just the fact that the moderators haveto view such an offensive picture amuses me.
Oh, I almost did skip this story over. Oh, it's about open source garbage software? I'm definitely skipping it over.
- I don't care if they globalize against free speech. All my best free thoughts are done in my head.
Uhmm ... I hate to break it you, but most people *are* shallow and childish, at least some of the time. To be this surprised about human behavior, you must not have been in a bar or dance club anytime in the last few decades!
And let's see - someone voluntarily posts their picture on a website for evaluation, someone else voluntarily goes to that website, votes on the picture, and this is supposed to be some kind of oppression. It may be stupid and childish in your opinion, but remember, this is a free country and the most basic freedom is the freedom to be as foolish as you like. If you really think that noticing someone's appearance leads to child murders, then you ought to be attacking fashion magazines, most tv channels, and anything celebrity related.
This is probably a troll, but I just couldn't resist. If it is, then all I can say is...well done.
Why is polygamy so common in the animal kingdom, but shunned by homo sapiens?
:)
Why does Chimpanzees taste things that they pick out of their butts and humans dont ? Maybe you do, but we dont
God is Dead - Nietszche
Nietszche is Dead - God
Rapid Nirvana
Although I wouldnt agree whether the site serves any purpose at all, apart from letting beautiful women know that the society thinks that they are beautiful and gets a higher rating, and less beautiful women get slapped with a rating of 2 and below (another segregation in this fucked up world), and letting morons drool over pics for whom the only way they can get close to these chics are by licking the monitor.
But apart from the rant, there are millions of websites that are out there which doesnt serve a purpose, which demoralizes us everyday, serves us with crap everyday, mocks our intelligence. Well, just dont go there. Ignore the website totally. Case taken care of and closed.
Rapid Nirvana
Frankly, I could care less about websites like AmIHotOrNot. I don't care if someone posts my picture, and I don't care if someone did, that I was rated poorly. In my opinion, the fact that people do care, demonstrates their low self esteem and is a poor reflection of society. I think the site is an accurate representation of the mentality of young poeple in the United States... (take that as you will).
However, this is not why I'm posting a comment... but I want my viewpoint on this subject to be clear before I begin.
One of my cousins was browsing a similar (not AmIHotOrNot) site and was rating the people as they came up. You know how it goes. I was sitting next to her watching her do this. She told me it was "fun." She was rating attractive girls (not models mind you) very low, at least according to the scale she was given. When males came up, she was rating them far better, even if they were not the most attractive people. Perhaps I was biased because I am a male and thus found the females proportionately more attractive. But it seemed to me she was somewhat critical of the girls even though they were not unattractive (she was rating what I considered (using the scale, which I think we can argree is arbitrary) 5/6 girls as 1/2/3).
I sat there and watched this for a while, and didn't say much. Finally she tired of it, and said she should put her picture up, along with a friend of hers (they are attractive women). I told her not to. She wanted to find out how people would rate her, and I told her that she didn't want to know. Not because she wasn't attractive, but because people would rate her as she had rated others.
In her case, the concern is not that she (or her friend) will be rated poorly and become depressed. They are old enough to know that they are attractive (according to societal/cultural/psychological/etc standards). The concern is that young girls will browse the site and see them (possibly rated poorly) and compare themselves. If they are "as attractive" or "less attractive" than the pictures they see, and those people are rated poorly, what is the logical reaction of those young girls?
Not good. Don't forget that those kind of sites can hurt those with pictures on the site as much as those who view those pictures and compare themselves.
My cousin decided not to put their pictures on the site.
This sounds like a troll, but I'll bite. And just so you know, I don't believe in god.
You should see the elk on the Thomales peninsula in the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. They're constantly "coveting" any number of their neighbor's "wives" (female elk).
Why is it only humans care? Why did god not give the animals a sense of morals, a sense of ethics? Why is polygamy so common in the animal kingdom, but shunned by homo sapiens?
I just don't get it.
Sure, it defaults to women, but, I mean, this was a bunch of young male geeks. What did you expect, Pink Elephants?
The Fourth Commandment says, 'Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife'.
So as long they are no ones wife it is okay then? Thanks for the info.
Speaking of fads, the guy who invented the yellow smiley face died today.
No fact here, just my best guesses.
amiallyourbaseornot.com =)
"By encouraging people to anonymously rate complete strangers they have never seen before and will (likely) never see again"
No, they are not rating a stranger. They are rating the looks of a stranger. There is a huge difference. I pride myself on the fact that I don't judge people by their looks. But I will still say "That woman is hot", "I'd like to get some of that". Why? Because it's true. My body tells me that one woman is beautiful and the other one is unhealthy and obese. If you read the ESR's guide to sex, even though is was an april fools joke, had a valid point that it is all human instinct because men want someone that looks healthy enough to have a child.
And what proof do you have that Bible is God's word?
And while we are at it, what proof do you have that there is a God?
And while we are at it, what proof do you have that my neighbor has a wife?
And, for the neighbor on the other side, what proof that I covet my neighbor's wife? (Of course, if she knew this, she wouldn't let him go outside dressed like that, but I digress.)
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Why is polygamy so common in the animal kingdom, but shunned by homo sapiens?
Because homo sapiens evolved differently than the way the rest of God's animals evolved.
Because raising children is almost beyond the resources of a single individual. Humans make a huge investment in their offspring.
Therefore, mothers who are able to keep a husband around are more successful at reproduction. Therefore, males who mate with these more successful females, in order to be successful themselves, must have some evolutionary pressure to be monogamous.
It is in the female's best interest to mate with a male who will give her the best genes, but to live with a male who will provide her the resources to raise her offspring. This is why females have an incentive to be unfaithful, but try to stay in a relationship with a good provider. (i.e. gold digger) The best provider of resources and the best provider of genes, are not necessarily the same male.
The incentive for males to be unfaithful is obvious. Having vast amounts of disposable sperm, it is in the best interest of males to copulate with as many females as possible, but to have as few wives as they can support with their resources. Hence kings have harems, and poor people have one wife. The mistress has pressure to try to get the guy to leave his wife, or at least divert some resources from the wife to herself. The wife has an interest in keeping the male faithful in order to prevent the potential loss or diversion of his resources.
Females who try to trick someone other than their biological fathers into raising their child are looked down upon. We invent all kinds of horrible terms, like whore, etc. for behavior that we detest, because we ourselves wouldn't want to be tricked in this way.
What has not been satisfactorally explained is why a very small percent of people are gay? I don't buy that it's genetic, as this doesn't make sense. Perhaps a genetic defect. Perhaps a congenital defect. (Maybe defect is the wrong word here, but since I'm not offended by using it, nobody else should be.) I still suppose it's environmental. But there doesn't seem to be any agreement on this.
Too bad wives don't send their husbands out to be serviced by an expert when they have a "headache". They don't stand to lose any resources to a "mistress" who is a guy.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Are we no better than this? Oogling over half naked women, and trashing the often more attractive, healthier, counterparts?
:-)
Maybe your concience would feel better if you didn't look at women.
There is a little control that lets you choose to see men or women. You could choose to view only men. (Like I do.
I can say from experience that the men don't seem to get rated by how much flesh they expose, but by how potentially yummy they look. My view on this seems to be supported by the fact that others' votes agree with mine.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
a sad commentary on today's society. I could fill reams of paper with talk about how unbelievably shallow this is .. from both sides. Both the "raters" and "ratees" are engaging in behavior so childish, so juvenile that it defies the imagination.
childish and juvenile behavior, like trolling on Slashdot?
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but look at what Taco has done here.
Do we really need this kind of site? Is it constructive like other sites without trolls?
Look at the facts:
- 10 % of all North American teenagers jack off regularly.
- 99 % will go blind from it.
The last thing we need is a web site which allows others to post their trolls for 'approval', only to find themselves modded down to a 3 or 2 while others occupy the 50 point karma cap.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Am I Hot Or Not is a site devoted to the facile and superficial estimation of the opposite sex.
Estimation of the opposite sex!
Oh no! Why didn't someone tell me this before I spent so much time there?
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
nothing is "simple" or "inescapable" about this situation. you have nothing but an opinion backed up by a dusty old book that may or may not have been created by the mind of a great storyteller or through the will of an omnipotent being. believe what you will, but you are not ranting about facts. you are ranting about beliefs.
besides, if god has that big of a problem with it, i think he could arrange a ddos or something and take care of it himself.
is that whenever you select women gender, the site seem to still returns pictures of mem.
Got friends?
Also, people are voluntarily doing this, often for its fun.
People do have appearances, and many want to know how others think of them...sadly not everyone is attractive as he or she wants to be, but people who may want to improve their appearances can at least get accurate knowledge from this site. I say accurate because your friends will lie if you ask them how you look.
How can you improve your appearance you say? Exercise, eating nutritiously, orthodontics, and yes, surgery. How many people do you know have perfect teeth as a result of orthodontics? Looks are a priority in the society.
Got friends?
Not true. The male pictures are equally demoralizing :))
Got friends?
...to de-ethicify itself, has started an amihotornot club in addition to selling pornographic DVDs.
Got friends?
get off of it, people. Those who are attractive will always be looked at over those who aren't. ?br??br? If an ugly person has the exact same qualifications as a beautiful person, the beautiful person will get the job. Anywhere. ?br??br? This isn't a new concept, it's rather quite common. It may not be right, but screaching about how unfair, crude, rude, and discrimitory hotornot.com isn't going to change a thing. ?br??br? the fact remains that people(in general) like looking at beautiful people. If they are naked, they like looking even more.
-- MrMud
That's more than four hours a day! Take a cold shower.
Steven
Software Wars
Why are we looking at this site as if it is a good example of anything except how to get lots of web traffic? Either the open source technology they are using sucks (god forbid) or they way they are using it sucks. Am I the only one that got "access forbidden" while rating pictures and other such embarrassing errors?
This is not a showcase any tool author should point to and say "see they created this sh*t using my stuff!"
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~~ the real world is much simpler ~~
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Give me LIBERTY, or give me a check.
It is really just a matter of time. Am I the only lazy slob on that site that gets the impression some of the less than hot pictures were not posted with the permission of the person displayed?
I saw one today of a young Indian woman with painted on mustache (clearly a PCPAINTBRUSH caliber touchup). Other pictures are just so ugly you know they were posted by mean people for unfriendly reasons.
What are the precedents for defamation like this? Can the publisher (ie HotOrNot) be liable?
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~~ the real world is much simpler ~~
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Give me LIBERTY, or give me a check.
Are you a 13 year old boy or a 12 year old boy?
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~~ the real world is much simpler ~~
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Give me LIBERTY, or give me a check.
It only holds up to 2... a 420R can hold up to 4 cpu's
sorry, hate to nitpick, but i have a few racks of them... and no, I do not use them as webservers (the netra T1 line is a lot cheaper, a quarter the size, and will fill a 100Mb pipe just fine.)
That said, if the single 700mhz system is running faster than a quad sun, you had better find a real sysadmin who knows what they are doing...
Yup, you don't know what you're talking about. Linear speed is simply not an issue at all...the us-ii "maxing out" at 450 vs. the "average piii-700"...jesus. Repeat after me...CPU speed means NOTHING. It's the BOTTLENECK, stupid. Intel has spent millions in advertising (apparently successfully) convincing the public that "faster=better", and people that should know better have swallowed this hook, line, and sinker.
Moral standards vary. If you read the article and the site, you'll see that they make every effort to curb pornography. They have a moderator community of 1000 or so that checks for a pictures validity and "appropriateness."
Now I realize you addressed this, but telling everyone that they are violating a god's will is pretty shortsighted. Christians don't even comprise a majority of the global population (or anywhere near it), and I'd imagine even a majority of Christians wouldn't have a serious moral qualm with this site - especially given the multitude of actual "pornography" on the net.
Yeah, it objectifies women (and men), but isn't this really what goes on between men and women every day? Wouldn't you be interested to know what others think of you when they see you walk down the street? If anything, the site is a unique social experiment. Imagine if they tracked IPs to see if users attempt to artificially boost their score or lower competitors.
Not to mention that you are taking covet a bit too literally. I think everyone is damned to your hell if that's your definition of breaking the fourth commandment.
As far as facts, I can point out plenty of actual facts about Chritianity that are far worse than hotornot.com ("holy" crusades, inquisition, etc).
If it looks like FUD, Smells like FUD...
Oops! Poopsie FUDed on the carpet again, and boy does it smell like FUD.
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I agree.
Obviously, whoever modded this as 'redundant' didn't get the irony, or didn't see my sig. Too bad.
What, should they open source? Those few CGI scripts. You can get the same ones (albeit without any security) at Matt's Script Archive. This is not an article about good software. It's an article about a great idea.
Did I miss it, or did the article not mention how much they made from the site?
A single P3 faster than quad sun anything? Can we say misconfiguration. I can make my Corvette go slower than my Chevette, too, if I put a Chevette carbureator in the 'Vette. What they should've learned is they don't know how to configure a Sun server.
Good show old man.
They stuck me in an institution, said it was the only solution, to...protect me from the enemy, myself
I thought Slashdot didn't start until 1998?
They stuck me in an institution, said it was the only solution, to...protect me from the enemy, myself
Wow dude. Your female friends are really hot ! Where do you live ?
This is delving a bit deep into the psyche, but the fact that so few people have an idea of what the rapist's mind goes through is a sufficient indicator of how troubled a rapist is. Such a small portion of society understands what it is about, while many people have tried or continue to use illegal drugs and think no ill of it, if not in public, at least in private.
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There is no K5 cabal.
There is no K5 cabal.
I am not the real rusty.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
The difference is, with SlashDot you're learning to be more informative and less annoying; to use the brains you have. You can modulate your style and choices from post to post.
That isn't any different from taking different types of pictures.
This is not a dream, not a dream...we are transmitting from the year 1-9-9-9.
registerd... but not online and working... I am pretty sure that the other came first.
who is a nitwit... and who the fuck cares... I really don't.
does any one here realize this is a total rip of on the AmIFuckedOrNot.COM done by our good friend PUD at fucked company. Weird weird weird... absolutely identical. Just the other extream... fucked.
Wait.... I get it now, there's a hot one sitting next to you while you were typing...
Well, the best to you, brother. Hope all that ditching-your-own-kind will get you some.
Software on both was Apache 2.0. Compaq DL 380 with Redhat 7.0, 220 with Solaris 8. Benchmarked on static pages, and dynamic content using a Perl test cgi. Both Perl and Apache were compiled with Sun's 64bit compilier for the Sparc. If you just use 32 bit the Compaq out performs the Sun.
Since when has Sun had a quad 220? I work in a large Sun shop, and have never seen a quad cpu 220. Now, maybe they are thinking of a 420. Also, I have benchmarked a 220 vs a dual cpu compaq, and the 220 ran circles around the compaq. Of course apache was compiled with 64bit support, and tuned for performance. I would love to see their environment ( platform specifics, compilier, code release, httpd.conf etc. ) Speaking of Sun, I know their price/performance is not great, but has anyone else done some benchmarks with the $996 X1 machine. From what I have played with it looks great.
*blink*
Excuse me? "Worship" of the flesh is "inescapable fact"?
I have a hard time believing this kind of dogmatic crap got modded up. Having beliefs is great, and I'm glad he feels passionate about it, (America despises real passion; it's seen as naive or even insane) but how can he presume to tell us about moral "fact" and actually have people mod this UP? Mod this shit down, -1 Troll. Pointing out that your belief system says that this is wrong is relevant (though banal); wholesale accusing everyone who disagrees with him of being "sinners," however, is trolling, not to mention just bullshit.
Besides, I just had a chat with Jesus yesterday over a beer, and he says porn is actually the new Christian sacrament, which is to be announced on his website, www.YouIdiotsGotMyMessageAllWrong.com on Monday!
The Free desktop that Just Works
I just learned of this site a few days ago. It seems it is fun for my classmates to take digital pictures of a number of people in my grade, pick the ones that are bad pictures, post them, and then laugh at the response. Heh, small world...
pretty funny site, but you might want to either strengthen your code(i don't that that is the problem) or get a better server.
then again, usually you won't be hit with what i am guessing is the slashdot effect slowing it down
how they were able to scale to handle 1.8 million page views per day after being in operation for a mere 8 days
but they can't handle the
as of 9pm friday EST they are timing out.
H3H TH3 SL4SHD0T H4X0RZ 4R3 M4ST3RS 0F D0S1NG.
AmIHotOrNot a technical success? James would wish so. What he has done isn't anything brilliant, in fact it's downright dishonest. His site steals services from the free hosting providers and Yahoo! for its club area software. His adds are even hosted elsewhere; his web statictics are hosted on webtrends. He's serving text.
He's stealing bandwidth, reusing it, and making money off of it. Figure this. A typical hotornot.com webpage is 1.19 KB (and since all pages are fundamentaly the same, this figure stands). 8 Million 1 K is 8 GB of bandwidth. That's downright cheap for a very popular site (1.19 K/hit).
Hong's advice for setting up a "fad" site doesn't work because he has none. He never did anything novel. It doesn't compare to the other sites which provide something more than a script and a few database calls. And the statement about a quad Sun running slower than a lowly Pentium is absolute nonsense. This either means that Sun Linux was written by a crack monkey, or James is a crack monkey. I prefer the later quite affectionatly. I don't have any excuse for these types of people.
The "fad" principle doesn't involve anything special. Use the standard methods for scalability and you'll scale. It's that simple. That's the right way to do it if you're going to do it and, of course, not cheat and steal bandwidth. Hong didn't even do that here, so his genious is in his theft and he has no technical merit for following standard "laws" for scalable sites. It's more difficult to go and get a job than it is to break into a store and take what you want.
"I'll just chip in a bit for RedHat: I actually have that installed on my university machine." - Linus, '95
Don't gorget the others!
amigothornot.com
ruhotornot.com
ratemypet.com
ratemyrack.com
amiallyourbaseornot.com
I'm sure there are more too; pretty much ratemyxyz.com is all registered domains already.
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The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason. --Ben Franklin
I agree that judging a person's worth by their mere appearance is in fact wrong. However, as human beings we have a strong sexual attraction to the opposite sex, and appearance does in fact have a vital role in this sexual attraction. Although I'm not Brad Pitt(not even near), I realize this fact. To deny that one enjoys looking at pretty women is to go against one's nature, a self distructive and non-natural activity. If you must know, yes I am athiest, but as hard as you may find it to believe I also have morals.
First of all if you're fat then go lose some weight. I lost 40lbs this year and I'm the laziest thing our there. If you can't lose weight it's because you don't want to.
Second the physicaly fit human body is beautiful. There is a reason DaVincci's David is a classic. If you're fat and don't have the will power to lose weight than deal with that fact, don't call me evil or shallow. If your ugly, well that does suck, but you should accomidate it with your figure and personality, and save your money becasue plastic surgeons are doing AMAZING things with lasers nowadays.
Don't be so uptight.
Wow, this is really a brilliant post if he is not religious. It truly does _troll_. Of course if he is... well, I won't be taken by the troll :)
-Rob
The difference is, with SlashDot you're learning to be more informative and less annoying; to use the brains you have. You can modulate your style and choices from post to post.
With AmIHotOrNot you get one shot, then your self-esteem goes to whichever extreme. Or you get expensive surgery, and maybe take a second shot. Or you kill yourself.
Here's a handy reference card, for those who don't quite get it:
Slashdot: Gooood.
AmIHotOrNot: Baaaad.
--Blair
"Read. Learn. Evolve."
On the other hand, HotorNot voting would appeal to the writer of the vote. You see something you like...10. Ugly girl...2. Your vote counts for nothing more than immediate satisfaction. So what if you see the overall rating. How does that benefit you as a reader?
Unlike Slashdot, there's no other purpose.
Baring yourself isn't always necessary...there's about 40 pictures of me on my homepage and all but about 5 of them you can't even see more skin than my hands and face. And I still get piles of lewd messages/e-mails! So sorry if I never felt the need to post a picture of myself in a bikini on AmIHotOrNot.com. I was happy enough to get voted down on AmIGothOrNot.com. I wish more people would agree with the users of that site and quit calling me that!
And you're right...no one needs to get in a circle and "protect" the delicate little women. Unfortunately, there are women whose egos were probably slightly wounded by a voter or two. If you ask me, though, a person's got to be a masochist to post some of the embarrassing and/or tacky photos I've witnessed on those sites. So these women probably had alot of problems to begin with. I don't think AmIHotOrNot.com is going to make that big a difference. :)
My Webcomic: Asylum on 5th Street
To address your concerns...the "naked" pictures are cartoons and/or artwork...I wouldn't say there's anything inadvertantly sexual about them. The nudity in my artwork usually has little to actually do with sex, except from maybe being a commentary on some aspect of it. Of course the "Hookah" picture you mentioned is indeed a drawing of my glorious butt...but it was a gift for my boyfriend...might I point out that I scrawled his name very plainly on the most "exciting" aspect of the picture. :) As for the butt-button...that was only to compliment the boob button, which I deliberately put on a link that will eventually go to a very serious collection of essays on religion, society, and politics I am working on. So that was an act of deliberately being misleading. I suppose it would be equivalent to finding the work of an established scientist hidden behind a bunch of unusually interesting pr0n pics. Never expect anything an artist does to be simple or what it initially looks like. I'm glad you liked my page though. ;)
Not that I'm unwilling to take pictures in my scanties...but I have been getting lewd comments for as long as I've been on the internet, and they very seldom have anything to do with the amount of clothing I am or am not wearing. Of course, I've been mostly ignoring those messages just as long, so it's all the same to me. Besides, it gives me lots of ways to vent pent up anger. :)
My Webcomic: Asylum on 5th Street
I would like to know if slashdot is getting any money for posting this sHIt.
This is not a conversation about the moral merits of this site. This is a conversation about the hardware/software setup behind the site. Please stop flaming/trolling the channel because 'porn is wrong' or 'nekid chicks are cool'. What truley disturbs me is the comment about the single processor intel system over the Sun server. I can say right now that that e220 should have blown the intel system out of the water. Quad sun processor's are some of the fastest things out there right now when it comes to major web serving.
I have posted pictures to a lot of sites like that, and the same thing always happens to me. I have a nice bell curve centered around some score that's relatively high, but there will always be a little cluster of 1's and 2's. I personally think that it's because I'm Asian, that a lot of people see an Asian and just vote down. Of course, a lot of people will see an Asian and automatically vote up too, regardless of whether she's actually attractive.
My point is that perhaps there is something visible in the picture that makes a certain handful of people not like you. Maybe you are wearing a brown shirt and 5% of the population is automatically revolted by a brown shirt. Maybe your computer is visible in the background and 5% of the voters automatically think "Oh, a geek" and vote you a '1'. If you're male, maybe you are getting voted down by straight male goons who are too stupid to configure the site to only show them women, and they automatically vote down any men that they see. It happens...
-Keslin, the naked nerd girl
-Keslin, the naked nerd girl
One of those is more shallow than the other? They are both one-sided representations of people, and both are poor substitutes for actual human interaction. They are simply aimed at different demographics.
I don't see an enormous difference between posting this on Slashdot and then waiting to see how it gets rated, and posting a picture of myself on RankPeople. You're just getting ratings on different aspects of yourself, that's all.
-Keslin, the naked nerd girl
-Keslin, the naked nerd girl
Let's look at the facts for a moment. Geocities gives away free webspace and offsets the cost with banner ads. I am referred to Geocities by HotorNot and set up a dummy account with nothing but a jpg of myself in my Geocities directory.
HotorNot then pulls my jpg off of Geocities server, costing Geocities money and bandwidth in the process, and imbeds the image into a page served by HotorNot.
Since the html file was served from HotorNot, they're the ones racking up banner impressions and revenue, while not a single Geocities banner gets served in the process.
Geocities is still providing the disk space and bandwidth, but they're losing out on the banners, which are their primary source of revenue.
Care to explain how that's beneficial to Geocities, tough guy?
If it looks like FUD, Smells like FUD...
Slashdot: Open Source, Closed Minds.
Simple. None of the images are hosted on their site. They encourage users to sign up for dummy accounts with Geocities and such to host the jpg, and foot the bill for the bandwidth. Each HotorNot pageview only amounts to a 4 or 5k script for formatting and to access the DB. Contrast that with the fact that when slashdot serves a comments page, it's pulling several hundred k from the MySQL database and over the 'net.
When you think about, HotorNot's scheme is quite brilliant. A little shady, but brilliant.
Slashdot: Open Source, Closed Minds.
If the purveyors of hotornot and similar sites were smart, they would parlay their site's popularity and sell out to the personal care/comsetics industry quickly. Imagine hotornot "augmented" with:
This is a would-be goldmine for predators of the insecure.
I always give the pretty girls 0's and the ugly girls 10, just to fuck with the system. I feel like I'm getting back at the swell headed ones, and giving the shy ones a boost of moral I have some friends who screwed senior design because of that site. Every meeting they would all load up that site and click for hours.
Based on upvotes, Ageism is the only "-ism" Slashdotters care about and think isn't SJW
As to power, please explain how this power manifests itself.
You're kidding, right?
Ever watch the evening news?
Rape, molestation, and murder are not crimes of passion. They are crimes of power. When a man (or a woman) rapes a woman (or a man), the desire for lust is typically not even present. The act is about power. Nothing more! When you use Hot Or Not and anonymously rate somebody's appearance, that is the type of "innocent" power that builds itself up into something loathsome and terrible. A raping spree is the logical conclusion to an unhealthy obsession with Hot Or Not. When the website ceases to become satisfactory, the only recourse is to go out into the world and do monstrous things.
All I'm saying is that this is not a good thing. Disagree if you want, but we'll have to agree to disagree.
Call me an old fuddy-duddy, but I think that Am I Hot Or Not is one of the more damaging sites on the World Wide Web. The whole notion that people gaze upon women who are complete strangers, and who have submitted their pictures to the Internet for the express purpose of determining their "hotness", is (I believe) a sad commentary on today's society. I could fill reams of paper with talk about how unbelievably shallow this is .. from both sides. Both the "raters" and "ratees" are engaging in behavior so childish, so juvenile that it defies the imagination.
.. only that it's brutally honest.)
.. but only where it is appropriate. Using Linux to facilitate rape is no better than using it to design weapons of mass destruction. Let's grow a backbone and speak out against it.
Now, if the shallowness was the only problem, Am I Hot Or Not would at least be tolerable. But unfortunately, it goes further than that. For all the talk about Internet pornography, it has to be said that at least porn does not lie about what its intention is: pure sex. It doesn't make excuses, it doesn't hide behind ulterior motives, and it doesn't masquerade itself behind some Greater Purpose than getting some teenager off. (Note that I'm not claiming that pornography is acceptable
Am I Hot Or Not, however, is downright dangerous. By encouraging people to anonymously rate complete strangers they have never seen before and will (likely) never see again, they are giving people a sort of bizarre power over these people. Power is the most addictive drug known to man; heroin is positively benign when compared to power. And human beings abhor a power vacuum once they have been exposed to it.
Let's face it; one can only sit in front of the Internet for so long. After that, it becomes necessary to "up the ante." So then, for many of the site's users, the need to exert this power over strangers on the Internet suddenly becomes the need to exert this power over strangers in Real Life (meatspace.) And this manifests itself in things like rape, molestation, and murder. Recent statistics have shown that the vast majority of rapists and child molesters have been addicted to Internet pornography. It would be interesting to see how many of these same criminals have been visitors of Am I Hot Or Not.
And please don't try to suggest that the rapes and murders of dozens if not hundreds of women and children are acceptable because the site uses Linux and Apache. People, this may come as a shock to you, but it is possible to put Linux and Apache and our other favorite pieces of software to evil uses! Yes, I agree that we should advocate free software
Talk about sour grapes.
Your culture of drug and prostitution legalization, your sprawling "red light districts" and your seedy side-streets, are "sick" to people that at least have some semblance of a moral compass. The only reason that the incidence of rape in your country is lower than it is here is because you have all but written rape out of the laws of your country!
"Screw anything and everything" seems to be the motto there, and I say so be it. Your society has become so decadent and self-destructive that in time it will be unable to support itself. All the socialist "safety nets" in the world will do nothing. It's funny how you mock America while at the same time ignoring that it is wildly successful precisely because it rejects the failed doctrines that you so vociferously cling to.
But far be it from me to interrupt your vitriol!
I love amihotornot. I visit it at least twenty five times a day, each for about ten minutes each. It's just so addictive how they have it autoload another pic after I've just voted on the last.
But as much as I love amihotornot, I have to wonder: is its unabashed success a good thing?
In every man's generation, there can only be a small handful of success stories. When slashdot won Wired's "Best Sites of 1994" award, it proved it was a damned good site. The fact that we're all reading this article here proves my point.
But the success of one site can often come at the expense of others. When readers' itches are scratched, they might not wonder whether the scratching implement is the most elegant or the most aesthetically pleasing. This is true of amihotornot.
The truth is, amihotornot has so dominated its niche that there cannot be another successful community-oriented mass-voting site. As if to add insult to injury, the same people who run amihotornot have also started other sites like amigothornot in order to deter what little competition may have otherwise arisen. In any other industry, that would've been antitrust. In the pinup industry, it's par for the course.
Could the world have been a better place if amihotornot had never existed? We may never know.
amipornornot!
Now... why are you still on slashdot??
Oh and btw could we integrate the AmIHotOrNot codebase into slash, and have pictures for each user, and ratings?
I want to see LAT and Heidi Wall nekkid, pls, Taco, thx!
It's hard to believe that society feels the need for this sort of site to rate women. Its throughly disgusting. I've routinely browsed the site, and I've notices one particular thing: the more naked the girl in the picture is, the higher the rating. While a normally attractive lady receives low points, one who bares the largest part of her cleavage typically rates a 10. If you're of mature size, then you're labeled 'fat' and given a one. I'm shocked! Hotornot.com is nothing more than a porn site. Women, in order to get higher ratings, send in the sleeziest picture of themselves they can find. Others, who care not for baring themselves to hundreds of hungry men, are slammed in the moderation system, their self esteem ruined. It's appalling that the site gets millions of visitors, daily. Are we no better than this? Oogling over half naked women, and trashing the often more attractive, healthier, counterparts?
One of the biggest names in viral marketing has actually written a book on this subject. You can read it in .pdf format, HTML, or buy it from Amazon. It details the concept of viral marketing, and how fads spread at near lightspeed with the advent of the internet. It's quite an incredible read.
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the liberator who destroyed my property has realigned my perception
www.quantumheresy.com
Right, wrong, whatever. I see no reason to impose morals onto another person.
"The Fourth Commandment says, 'Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife'."
As much as I'd like to take a good long look at my neighbor's wife, I'm seriously doubting she's on this site. So I should be in the green, right?
blurred picture: -3
headshot: -2 (gotta see the whole package to judge fairly, ie ass width, boob size, etc)
animal in picture: +1 (shows she is warm and caring)
alcohol in her hand: +2 (self-explanatory)
kid(s) pictured with the girl: -4 (sorry mom!)
apparent boyfriend also pictured: automatic score==0, no exceptions!
"If the Lord had meant for us to fly, He'd have given us wings with which to soar...." William, 14:35
I suppose that someone already brought up the fact that an E220 is a DUAL processor box at max- not QUAD. But maybe you're talking about an E420? You see "2"20 is "2" processors, and "4"20 is "4" processors- not that it would matter. Techodrivvle aside, is that site available in Braille? Love to feel my way through- ooooohhh ahhhhhh
Of course. Us men are doing a process of natural selection. The strong (err.. breasted) survive.
Sad but true.
That's it. I'm quitting this poetic shiznit now.
you can pick your friends,
you can pick your nose,
you can't however,
pick your friends' nose.
I first came across "Am I Hot or Not?" by way of a horrified reference to it on Salon.com. I then proceeded to place my picture on it, even though I'm no Matt Damon. "Jason Alexander" is more like it. So I'm not the best looking guy? Big deal. [more on the results in a moment] When I was in college studying the classics, one thing that made a big impression on me was how the Greeks didn't seem to see the world in the dichotomous manner that is so prevelant especially in American society. The Greek's held in high esteem both physical beauty and spiritual beauty -- they certainly didn't see the two as being mutually exclusive or in contention. Socrates was renounded for being physically ugly -- it was joked about -- and yet a young man who was renowned for his beauty, Agathon, was quite attracted to Socrates. I think that the typicaly strong reaction against an appreciation of physical beauty belies the truth that the outraged person themself considers this to be far more important than they should. Indeed, the outrage only validates and encourages the imbalance. All that said, however, a perusal of "Hot or Not?" will reveal some interesting patterns in how men rate women. Large, on-display breasts and sultry posings almost invariably give a boost to the ratings, even if the person does not have a particularly attractive face. My own experience was interesting by virtue of my score distribution. Much to my surprise and slight dismay, with all three difference photos I submitted I receieved "1's" (worst) more often (or in one case, second most often) than any other score. Yet, my final score in the three photos went from a low of 5.1 to a high of 6.2. That's because, aside from the "1's", most of my other schores were in the 4-8 range. My theory about the "1's" is that it's a response to the fact that I'm bald. And in my thirties. The first is s big turn-off to a significant percentage of women; and the second is a turn-off to a significant percentage of the teeny-boppers that I presume use the site. Am I outraged that there's a bias against baldness? Am I ready to march to fight for "Ant-Lookism"? Of course not. People are entitled to their tastes. Some women don't like baldness. Is that "fair"? Perhaps not. But I'm curious to know how anyone plans to go about mandating fairness in the nuances of physical attraction. Let's live in the real world, okay?
I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but let's look at what James has done here. His web site lets the internet community rate people's physical appearance
Do we really need this kind of site? Is it constructive, like other fad web sites such as slashdot?
Look at the facts:
- 1% of all North American teenagers have eating disorders.
- 10% of these teenagers will die.
The last thing we need is a web site which allows teenage girls to post their pictures for "approval", only to find themselves rated as a 3 or a 2 while airbrushed professional models occupy all of the higher ranks.
Couldn't we have a story on a successful fad website, like kuro5shinz?
Simple sites are: 1) easy to set up 2) easy for the users to understand ...and most importantly...
3) easy to maintain
They took a simple idea and didn't go apeshit with javascript and java applets and flash and all kinds of eye-candy bullshit you see on other sites these days. Content wins. Sure, they're still headed on the way to destruction financially, but they got the right fucking idea for site development...
You finding Ling-Ling's head?
Someone come into yard, kill dog.
You finding Ling-Ling's head?
Someone come into yard, kill dog.
Ling Ling very good dog.
Why don't you look here or here or here? This isn't anything close to upping the ante... more like adding more people to the table. somethingawful and rotten both know that they generate traffic at the expense of someone else's misfortune. But so does cnn.com and abcnews.com. hotornot does not purposely try to humiliate people. when used legitmately, it provides a forum for people WHO WANT others to survey them. as for illigitmate posters, well, that will happen on any interactive system. hotornot at least takes some measure to prevent that. look at slashdot; there are plenty of bad trolls who post anti-semetic or racist jokes at the expense of those who have suffered tragedies involving antisemitism or racism. should slashdot be shut down because other people are assholes? probably not.
You finding Ling-Ling's head?
Someone come into yard, kill dog.
You finding Ling-Ling's head?
Someone come into yard, kill dog.
Ling Ling very good dog.
I can't believe she's only on 6.5! She's the hottest chick I saw on there.
Now if only I had the damn link so you could all go and vote for her!
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