First, note that you have conceded that Israel does not intentionally bulldoze children.
I conceded nothing of the sort. You're confusing me with someone else. I have already addressed this issue in another response.
I give you examples of Arab political parties, Arab members of the Knesset, an Arab Supreme Court Justice. These show that Arabs do in fact have the political rights that you claim they do not.
That's ridiculous. Palestinians outnumber Israelis. So why is the Israeli government so anti-Palestinian? The only answer, of course, is that there is no Palestinian representation. Also, Israel holds key members of the Palestinian government on gaol. In fact, Israel holds thousands of political prisoners from various neighboring countries. It even holds some Jews prisoner. Remember that brave man who blew the whistle on your weapons-of-mass-destruction program? He was thrown in gaol for telling the trust and branded a traitor. If MY country was building weapons of mass destruction, I would WANT someone to blow the whistle. You guys really are all brainwashed, aren't you? Fucking fundamentalists...
Bulldozing houses is terrorism, and state-sponsored terrorism at that. Also, I have absolutely zero trust in Israelis that claim that they're bulldozing only terrorists. It seems to me that you bulldoze land that you want to build illegal settlements on.
That's the way decisions get made in the world, so get used to it.
No. That's the way massive injustices are begun. The only way it will end is in conflict. You know about conflict, don't you? Did you ever stop to wonder why every one of your neighbors hates you?
It's ironic for a Muslim to complain about "imperialist powers"
I'm not a Muslim. I'm an Australian atheist and socialist. And yes, I criticize my own country's oppression of the Aboriginal owners of this land almost as much as I criticize Israel ( to be fair, Israel's occupation is far more brutal than Australia's ).
Islam didn't take over the Middle East by gentle persuasion, it conquered, subjugated, oppressed, and killed.
Religions don't do these things. People do. And at the moment, you're the ones under the spotlight, because you're doing it NOW.
The UN isn't perfect, but it is certainly better than the kind of rule and oppression Muslims visited on others for centuries.
What a stupid comparison! What an idiot you are! The UN is a tool of the big imperial powers. It's nothing more and nothing less. The Islamic world of old was a picnic compared to the horror than the UN is causing now. For example, they murdered millions of Iraqis through trade bans that prevented food and medicine getting into Iraq. And of course there's the fact that some countries have veto rights and continually support the Israeli terrorists to keep an nuclear-armed ally in the Middle East. They perpetuate massive crimes against humanity. The old Islamic empire couldn't have caused so much damage even if they wanted to, and they generally didn't.
They aren't going to fuck themselves, they are going to fuck you until either (1) you manage to defeat them militarily
The Zionists gave up on their plan of occupying Australia long ago. And your military is so pathetic that it was defeated by the grassroot Hezbollah movement. That was damned funny. As for Israel crushing Australia, um... I don't think that's going to happen, but you can try if you like.
The West isn't going to let you have exactly what you want, so you'll just have to get used to that.
Here's some news for: I AM A PART OF THE WEST. And the tide of public opinion is rapidly changing against you - in particular after the recent Lebanon incursion ( which you were crushed in ) and the most recent round of violence in Palestine that began with the murder of a family on a beach in Gaza. That went down VERY badly around here. As for continued US support, the problem is that the US is faultering as a superpower, and is learning that their own military might ( and yours ) isn't what it used to be. You can't count on big daddy America to protect you forever. And the instant that they remove their support, you'll be attacked from every angle... maybe even before this. And what can you do? Use 1 nuclear weapon, and I bet you ever possession that I have that the world will respond in kind. The world's patience is running out.
And the West certainly isn't going to let Muslims unite because we remember well what happened last time that happened.
Israel makes every effort to get the inhabitants out. The claim that Israel often demolishes houses with children inside is a lie.
Oh please! You 'make every effort to get the inhabitants out' before destroying their homes. And then you wonder why people want to wipe you off the face of the planet! How about NOT bulldozing their homes in the first place? Is that too much to ask?
To begin your research... blah... blah... blah
What exactly does that have to do with the fact that I pointed out that you're claims were lies? Changing the topic won't make people forget.
This group should be ignored until they start to act rationally, why can't they politely ask for -- what is obviously a mistake -- to be rectified?
That's not how the Zionist lobby operates. They don't rely on courteous behaviour and goodwill. They bully people into submission by crying 'anti-semite!' and threatening to 'go and tell the whole Jewish community'.
Israel doesn't use tanks to fight kids with rocks.
Israel uses tanks and bulldozers to demolish Palestinian houses, often with children inside who are too young to throw rocks.
There is no apartheid in Israel.
Don't be moronic. Israel is THE definition of an apartheid state. Are Palestinians allowed to vote? No. Are they allowed to travel? No ( sure, then can wait for days to go through 'checkpoints', but in effect, no, they can't travel ). Are Palestinian refugees allowed to return home? No. Are Palestinians treated as equals? Most certainly not.
Arab & Muslim citizens of Israel can vote, run for office, say anything they want, print anything they want, follow any religion they choose, work in any profession they choose, serve on the supreme court, and sue the government (and sometimes win). Doesn't sound like apartheid to me.
The problem is that all of that is a lie. I don't know why you Zionists bother spreading this BS - anyone actually interested in the conflict already knows the horrors that you are inflicting upon the Palestinians. The only thing you're doing is further entrenching anti-semitic views, by inflaming anger against you.
There has never, ever, in the history of history, been a country called Palestine.
That's a ridiculous lie.
Does it have a head of state?
It has a democracy, and one in far less disasterous state than Israel's ( or the US's for that matter ).
Recognized as a country by the US? UK? France? Russia? China? Brazil? India? Sweden? Japan? Canada? South Africa? Germany? Spain?
Yes that's because of the horrible corruption of our governments. If you ask ordinary people, they all consider Palestine a country under siege. It's only the mainstream press and governments that try to hide this fact.
Now as to the claim of occupation, Gaza is most certainly NOT occupied by Israel. Israel completely withdrew from Gaza, and forcibly removed Israelis who wanted to stay.
1) Bullshit 2) Zionists occupy the WHOLE of Palestine; not just the West Bank & Gaza strip. ALL of it is theirs. Israel should not appear on a map at all.
Parts of the West Bank are under Israeli control, as negotiated by the Oslo accords which established the Palestinian Authority.
Yes, and this was a horrible betrayal on the part of Fatah, and one of the reasons Palestinians voted so overwhelmingly for Hamas.
Israel isn't a country. It's a large land mass under illegal Zionist occupation. I can't just declare my selected land-mass a country and expect people to recognize it, even if I claim that my religion give me the right to said land.
Of course the UN and its constituent Western imperialist powers decided that they'd take Palestinian land and hand it to a bunch of violent religious fundamentalists. That still doesn't make it a country. I suppose it depends on who's definition you're using though.
And as for the rabid frothing-at-the-mouth 'pro-Israeli' fools who make absolutely sure that the world knows of the plight of the poor, innocent, fun-loving Zionists, they can go fuck themselves. THEY are the anti-semitic ones, and the Palestinians are a Semitic race, and the Zionists are therefore quite clearly anti-Semitic. This much was obvious when they were first fighting for the establishment of their fundamentalist state - they worked with the most anti-semitic people they could find, because they both had a vested interest in the outcome - for the Zionists, they got their land, and for the anti-semites, they got rid of the Jews.
Unfortunately for your arguement, Saddam was the US's biggest ally in the Middle East ( aside from Israel of course ) for decades. They backed his rise to power, and gave him WOMD to experiment with. You can't cry about him now without first admitting that you created the problem. And of course now you've executed him so he couldn't spill the beans on the details of the WOMD stockpiles he was given.
What utter claptrap. US and British imperialist meddling is the root cause of all instability in the Middle East. The US supports Egypt and Saudi Arabia, both dictatorships. The US installs dictators such as Saddam. They set up and fund terrorist networks such as the Taliban. For someone who actually knows some history and has some intelligence, the link between this meddling and growing fundamentalism is clear.
Germany used slave labor including child labor through 1945 and France and the rest of the chest-thumping Europeans allowed it as long as Germany wouldn't attack. Europeans abolishing slavery before the US is false. Or did you conveniently forget that?
1) The period of fascist control should be excused 2) Germany doesn't represent all of Europe
The Soviets used slavery until at least the mid 1960's.
They weren't soviets. A 'Soviet' was a workers' council ( literally translated as peoples' advise ). What happened after Stalin came to power was nothing to do with the Soviets.
Many in the Muslim world today have slaves. They are called women.
That's just racist trash. There's not a single Muslim family I know where I'd say that the female was treated like a slave. But if I look at society more generally, I'd say that Western ideology includes treating women like slaves. For example, my wife is pregnant, and due to give birth in 1 month. She gets 1 year maternity leave, but it's all UNPAID. She, and all other women, are expected to take care of the baby and home generally, for FREE. Now sure, my income supports her ( just ). But not all women are that lucky. What's more, when she goes back to work, the wages she earns will be about 70% of a males' wage, not because she's less skilled or capable, but just because Western society treats women like that. I'm sure it's the same in your country. In fact, I'm sure you support this. So lets not bring out the racist BS while conveniently forgetting our own shit, OK?
If you really were in Fallujah during it's destruction, you would be dead. As for the rejection of the US's use of White Phosphorus, I've seen numerous videos by independent ( not 'embedded' ) journalists, and also head eye-witness reports of White Phosphorus use. There really is no reason for people to overstate US brutality in Iraq. If so many sources ( credible sources, mind you, not CNN & Fox ) claim it's happening, then I know who I side with. If you really were there, and you really didn't see it's use, then you are one lucky SOB.
Get over it. He was your biggest ally for decades. The fact that you lost control of him is your own stupid fault.
who testing chemical and biological weapons on his own people
Bullshit. It was the US doing the testing. Saddam merely used what the US gave him.
who violated so many UN human rights charters
So? Go and invade Israel if you're so concerned about UN human rights charters and resolutions.
And it help fight the slow death of small, often ignored countries like Lebanon
WTF?
In vietnam communists wanted to control the country
That's quite a simplistic view. I forgive you, considering your other way-off statements so far. Communists HAD taken over Vietnam, and had MASSIVE backing from the population. That's no reason to invade and carpet-bomb the place with napalm and chemical weapons ( the same weapons you were just crying about Saddam using ).
Of course, typical Americans; cleaning up after europe shits all over the place
Hardly. It's more like MAKING all the shit and expecting everyone else to call it flowers.
Abolishing slavery, abolishing monarchies, reinstating civil rights and real courts, cleaning up the mess left in the Middle-East by the English
Oh fuck off. The US was built on slavery, and the remnants of it are still very much alive today. Abolishing monarchies? What do you call George Dubya, commander in chief? What's the point of abolishing something and replacing it with the same thing, but a different name? Why not try some democracy instead? Huh? And as for cleaning up the mess in the middle east, I believe you're FUCKING up the middle east. You must have a pretty warped idea of what's going on over there. You're American, right
and with all the tree huggers over here taking so much power...it still may not happen
I hate to break it to you, but we're taking over everywhere. Here's the thing: if you can't do things sustainably, then you really don't deserve to be living anyway. You don't have some God-given right to live, to everything else's exclusion, despite what you might claim.
Anyway, it's not the so-called tree-huggers' fault that your dollar is going down the toilet. You are living WAY beyond your means. It's time to start paying off some of that multi-trillion-dollar debt and living sustainably.
Software and hardware can compete on that universal platform instead of between multiple incompatible platforms
Flog on. One of the reasons I moved to Linux was that the more open-source software I used, the more complete my 'toolkit' became. Microsoft give you only the bare minimum, and then they continue to fuck with what they've given you to 'encourage' you to upgrade, purchase more, upgrade, license this, buy that, etc, etc.
Nader cost Gore the election by taking away a larger margin of liberal voters than Bush won each of those states by.
1) You need to improve your alleged democracy somewhat so that this doesn't happen. First past the post is a joke. 2) Nader's track record is that he actually believes what he says, fights for what he believes, etc. This is as opposed to the Democrats, who are the alternative party of big business. If people in your country can't see the difference, and therefore vote for the democrats, then I put it to you that:
a) You deserve whatever the fuck you get. What's the average IQ over there?
b) It's the DEMOCRATS who lost the election, not Nader. Why not ask the Democrats not to run?
So what? The same could be said of closed source software. The key difference is that your poor, downtrodden company CAN use the open-source widget for FREE, as long as they obey the terms of the GPL. If they don't like the terms, then they are free to write their own widget. I don't see the problem here. Perhaps you didn't think this though?
Yup, I think SQLite is a great alternative against Access, however could someone suggest a good GUI for SQLite with similar properties as MS Access?
I'm working on it: http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis. Click on the 'future' link for some previews of the GUI. It's not exactly aimed at your mom. It's aimed at MS Access developers who want something better.
If your open-source project gets you some cred, you should easily be able to find work doing customisations for businesses. There are usually far more people who would like to use your software than the number of people who are capable of installing and setting it up. Works for me anyway.
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Get a map and look for 'Israel'. This is actually Palestine, but unfortunately it's full of violent, fundamentalist Zionists, hence the name 'Israel'.
Stop stealing their land.
Stop killing them.
Stop blocking their access to to energy and trade.
Stop building Apartheid walls around them.
I conceded nothing of the sort. You're confusing me with someone else. I have already addressed this issue in another response.
That's ridiculous. Palestinians outnumber Israelis. So why is the Israeli government so anti-Palestinian? The only answer, of course, is that there is no Palestinian representation.
Also, Israel holds key members of the Palestinian government on gaol. In fact, Israel holds thousands of political prisoners from various neighboring countries. It even holds some Jews prisoner. Remember that brave man who blew the whistle on your weapons-of-mass-destruction program? He was thrown in gaol for telling the trust and branded a traitor. If MY country was building weapons of mass destruction, I would WANT someone to blow the whistle. You guys really are all brainwashed, aren't you? Fucking fundamentalists
Bulldozing houses is terrorism, and state-sponsored terrorism at that. Also, I have absolutely zero trust in Israelis that claim that they're bulldozing only terrorists. It seems to me that you bulldoze land that you want to build illegal settlements on.
No. That's the way massive injustices are begun. The only way it will end is in conflict. You know about conflict, don't you? Did you ever stop to wonder why every one of your neighbors hates you?
I'm not a Muslim. I'm an Australian atheist and socialist. And yes, I criticize my own country's oppression of the Aboriginal owners of this land almost as much as I criticize Israel ( to be fair, Israel's occupation is far more brutal than Australia's ).
Religions don't do these things. People do. And at the moment, you're the ones under the spotlight, because you're doing it NOW.
What a stupid comparison! What an idiot you are! The UN is a tool of the big imperial powers. It's nothing more and nothing less. The Islamic world of old was a picnic compared to the horror than the UN is causing now. For example, they murdered millions of Iraqis through trade bans that prevented food and medicine getting into Iraq. And of course there's the fact that some countries have veto rights and continually support the Israeli terrorists to keep an nuclear-armed ally in the Middle East. They perpetuate massive crimes against humanity. The old Islamic empire couldn't have caused so much damage even if they wanted to, and they generally didn't.
The Zionists gave up on their plan of occupying Australia long ago. And your military is so pathetic that it was defeated by the grassroot Hezbollah movement. That was damned funny. As for Israel crushing Australia, um
Here's some news for: I AM A PART OF THE WEST. And the tide of public opinion is rapidly changing against you - in particular after the recent Lebanon incursion ( which you were crushed in ) and the most recent round of violence in Palestine that began with the murder of a family on a beach in Gaza. That went down VERY badly around here. As for continued US support, the problem is that the US is faultering as a superpower, and is learning that their own military might ( and yours ) isn't what it used to be. You can't count on big daddy America to protect you forever. And the instant that they remove their support, you'll be attacked from every angle
What's that?
Oh please! You 'make every effort to get the inhabitants out' before destroying their homes. And then you wonder why people want to wipe you off the face of the planet! How about NOT bulldozing their homes in the first place? Is that too much to ask?
What exactly does that have to do with the fact that I pointed out that you're claims were lies? Changing the topic won't make people forget.
That's not how the Zionist lobby operates. They don't rely on courteous behaviour and goodwill. They bully people into submission by crying 'anti-semite!' and threatening to 'go and tell the whole Jewish community'.
Israel uses tanks and bulldozers to demolish Palestinian houses, often with children inside who are too young to throw rocks.
Don't be moronic. Israel is THE definition of an apartheid state. Are Palestinians allowed to vote? No. Are they allowed to travel? No ( sure, then can wait for days to go through 'checkpoints', but in effect, no, they can't travel ). Are Palestinian refugees allowed to return home? No. Are Palestinians treated as equals? Most certainly not.
The problem is that all of that is a lie. I don't know why you Zionists bother spreading this BS - anyone actually interested in the conflict already knows the horrors that you are inflicting upon the Palestinians. The only thing you're doing is further entrenching anti-semitic views, by inflaming anger against you.
That's a ridiculous lie.
It has a democracy, and one in far less disasterous state than Israel's ( or the US's for that matter ).
Yes that's because of the horrible corruption of our governments. If you ask ordinary people, they all consider Palestine a country under siege. It's only the mainstream press and governments that try to hide this fact.
1) Bullshit
2) Zionists occupy the WHOLE of Palestine; not just the West Bank & Gaza strip. ALL of it is theirs. Israel should not appear on a map at all.
Yes, and this was a horrible betrayal on the part of Fatah, and one of the reasons Palestinians voted so overwhelmingly for Hamas.
Israel isn't a country. It's a large land mass under illegal Zionist occupation. I can't just declare my selected land-mass a country and expect people to recognize it, even if I claim that my religion give me the right to said land.
Of course the UN and its constituent Western imperialist powers decided that they'd take Palestinian land and hand it to a bunch of violent religious fundamentalists. That still doesn't make it a country. I suppose it depends on who's definition you're using though.
And as for the rabid frothing-at-the-mouth 'pro-Israeli' fools who make absolutely sure that the world knows of the plight of the poor, innocent, fun-loving Zionists, they can go fuck themselves. THEY are the anti-semitic ones, and the Palestinians are a Semitic race, and the Zionists are therefore quite clearly anti-Semitic. This much was obvious when they were first fighting for the establishment of their fundamentalist state - they worked with the most anti-semitic people they could find, because they both had a vested interest in the outcome - for the Zionists, they got their land, and for the anti-semites, they got rid of the Jews.
Unfortunately for your arguement, Saddam was the US's biggest ally in the Middle East ( aside from Israel of course ) for decades. They backed his rise to power, and gave him WOMD to experiment with. You can't cry about him now without first admitting that you created the problem. And of course now you've executed him so he couldn't spill the beans on the details of the WOMD stockpiles he was given.
What utter claptrap. US and British imperialist meddling is the root cause of all instability in the Middle East. The US supports Egypt and Saudi Arabia, both dictatorships. The US installs dictators such as Saddam. They set up and fund terrorist networks such as the Taliban. For someone who actually knows some history and has some intelligence, the link between this meddling and growing fundamentalism is clear.
It's simple really. People who are smart enough to be useful are smart enough to know not to work for terrorists.
1) The period of fascist control should be excused
2) Germany doesn't represent all of Europe
They weren't soviets. A 'Soviet' was a workers' council ( literally translated as peoples' advise ). What happened after Stalin came to power was nothing to do with the Soviets.
That's just racist trash. There's not a single Muslim family I know where I'd say that the female was treated like a slave. But if I look at society more generally, I'd say that Western ideology includes treating women like slaves. For example, my wife is pregnant, and due to give birth in 1 month. She gets 1 year maternity leave, but it's all UNPAID. She, and all other women, are expected to take care of the baby and home generally, for FREE. Now sure, my income supports her ( just ). But not all women are that lucky. What's more, when she goes back to work, the wages she earns will be about 70% of a males' wage, not because she's less skilled or capable, but just because Western society treats women like that. I'm sure it's the same in your country. In fact, I'm sure you support this. So lets not bring out the racist BS while conveniently forgetting our own shit, OK?
If you really were in Fallujah during it's destruction, you would be dead. As for the rejection of the US's use of White Phosphorus, I've seen numerous videos by independent ( not 'embedded' ) journalists, and also head eye-witness reports of White Phosphorus use. There really is no reason for people to overstate US brutality in Iraq. If so many sources ( credible sources, mind you, not CNN & Fox ) claim it's happening, then I know who I side with. If you really were there, and you really didn't see it's use, then you are one lucky SOB.
Get over it. He was your biggest ally for decades. The fact that you lost control of him is your own stupid fault.
Bullshit. It was the US doing the testing. Saddam merely used what the US gave him.
So? Go and invade Israel if you're so concerned about UN human rights charters and resolutions.
WTF?
That's quite a simplistic view. I forgive you, considering your other way-off statements so far. Communists HAD taken over Vietnam, and had MASSIVE backing from the population. That's no reason to invade and carpet-bomb the place with napalm and chemical weapons ( the same weapons you were just crying about Saddam using ).
Hardly. It's more like MAKING all the shit and expecting everyone else to call it flowers.
Oh fuck off. The US was built on slavery, and the remnants of it are still very much alive today. Abolishing monarchies? What do you call George Dubya, commander in chief? What's the point of abolishing something and replacing it with the same thing, but a different name? Why not try some democracy instead? Huh? And as for cleaning up the mess in the middle east, I believe you're FUCKING up the middle east. You must have a pretty warped idea of what's going on over there. You're American, right
I hate to break it to you, but we're taking over everywhere. Here's the thing: if you can't do things sustainably, then you really don't deserve to be living anyway. You don't have some God-given right to live, to everything else's exclusion, despite what you might claim.
Anyway, it's not the so-called tree-huggers' fault that your dollar is going down the toilet. You are living WAY beyond your means. It's time to start paying off some of that multi-trillion-dollar debt and living sustainably.
Flog on. One of the reasons I moved to Linux was that the more open-source software I used, the more complete my 'toolkit' became. Microsoft give you only the bare minimum, and then they continue to fuck with what they've given you to 'encourage' you to upgrade, purchase more, upgrade, license this, buy that, etc, etc.
I can see why you posted anonumously
Are you being obscenely sarcastic, or are you particularly stupid?
1) You need to improve your alleged democracy somewhat so that this doesn't happen. First past the post is a joke.
2) Nader's track record is that he actually believes what he says, fights for what he believes, etc. This is as opposed to the Democrats, who are the alternative party of big business. If people in your country can't see the difference, and therefore vote for the democrats, then I put it to you that:
a) You deserve whatever the fuck you get. What's the average IQ over there?
b) It's the DEMOCRATS who lost the election, not Nader. Why not ask the Democrats not to run?
So what? The same could be said of closed source software. The key difference is that your poor, downtrodden company CAN use the open-source widget for FREE, as long as they obey the terms of the GPL. If they don't like the terms, then they are free to write their own widget. I don't see the problem here. Perhaps you didn't think this though?
I'm working on it: http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis. Click on the 'future' link for some previews of the GUI. It's not exactly aimed at your mom. It's aimed at MS Access developers who want something better.
Try: http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis. See the 'future' link for an up-coming GUI builder.
I'm working on it:
http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis
In particular, see the 'future' link.
If your open-source project gets you some cred, you should easily be able to find work doing customisations for businesses. There are usually far more people who would like to use your software than the number of people who are capable of installing and setting it up. Works for me anyway.