I haven't figured out a similar feature for apt-get or dpkg, despite reading the man pages. As for RPM...I haven't spent much time with RH-based distros, so I don't feel qualified to answer.
I see -- this is why I asked. I wasn't aware that it was a continuation; the patent brief at the USPTO website doesn't seem to make that bit clear, unless I simply don't know how to read patent briefs.
Techniques for the asynchronous loading of content date back to the mid 1990s. Java applets were introduced in the first version of the Java language in 1995. These allow compiled client-side code to load data asynchronously from the web server after a web page is loaded.[5] In 1996, Internet Explorer introduced the IFrame element to HTML, which also enables this to be achieved.[6] In 1999, Microsoft created the XMLHTTP ActiveX control in Internet Explorer 5, which is now supported by Mozilla, Safari and other browsers as the native XMLHttpRequest object.[6][7] However, this feature only became widely known after being used by Gmail (2004) and Google Maps (2005).[8]
IANAL, IAN even a legal hobbyist, but wouldn't this prior art insubstantiate the patent?
The editors don't pause. They merely breathe heavy right before they submit stories that generate furious clicking and typing. All that finger action generates excitement, you know.
If I got that right, that's 54 albums, so in cost that's $215 you've spent right there. I bet I could have the majority of that on a torrent in a day or two, for nothing.
What's the incentive for pirates to look at amazon?
Of course you could find all those via torrents -- with no guarantees that an album in a discography won't be incomplete, there won't be any pops, skips or warps in the song files and that your download won't stop at 98% for eternity. Part of the reason I quit pirating is because, just like getting anything else on the black market, the quality often left a lot to be desired.
Furthermore, Amazon has a massive catalog of great albums that aren't freely available as torrents. Some of them you'd be lucky even to find on Soulseek. And all of it downloads quickly; almost all the albums I've purchased from Amazon MP3 were in my music library less than 2 minutes after I bought them. It's 192k MP3, which isn't lossless, but it's not bad.
What was my incentive? Amazon eliminated my desire to pirate by offering me cheap music, the lack of which led me to pirate in the first place.
That's more or less what PowerShell was intended to do: scripting that batch files can't do and is too much of a headache to do in VBS. One of the nice things about PS is that it can interface directly and cleanly with stuff like Exchange and Active Directory. But yeah, it's not a *shell* shell in the traditional sense.
As for ZSH, I don't need to head over there because I've been using it for five years on my Debian box. But I'm glad you mentioned it because my.zshrc is getting a little cluttered and I need to clean it up. Thanks!
Like anything else that depends on what you're doing and how comfortable you are in each environment. Word is not the best tool for crafting a document containing complex mathematical or scientific formulas, or for setting a 400-page book with decorative initial letters, an extensive bibliography and charts with legends and captions. But it's a great program for almost any non-technical thesis or dissertation, particularly in the liberal arts disciplines, and I find it far easier for tasks like creating complicated tables with spanned cells and multiple headers. It's all in how you approach the document and how well you know your tool.
I'm not sure -- "average" business users tend to be quite good with Office products in my experience -- but it's apparently a very low percentage of/. readers. Nevertheless, the tools are there in Word if you want them. It's not for everything, but it does more than some people give it credit for.
...why people think it's not possible to properly lay out a document in Word. If you have equations or some weird complex imagery, or you need to work from master sheets, then no, Word is not for you. But for professional-looking structured documents that don't require some sort of overly technical (use *TeX) or creative (use InDesign) bent, Word is absolutely fine -- provided you know what you're doing.
Having once learned TeX and subsequently discovering I had no practical use for it, I took the same concepts I learned from playing with TeX and applied them to the tool I knew, which was Word (and later OpenOffice). I discovered that by mentally separating content from presentation before I started and learning the finer details of Outline Mode, I could generate far more impressive-looking documents than I ever thought Word capable of. (It helped that I once had almost 2,000 mostly pro fonts to work with as well, but I digress.) TOCs, cross-references, many of the things that make a document "professional", I could do with ease and style, provided I applied and tweaked the formatting at the end instead of on the fly, which is what you're supposed to do anyway. Office 2007 made that task much easier.
TeX and InDesign have their place, but I'm seeing a lot of people bashing Word claiming it can't do some things that it most certainly can. It's not a pro layout program and it's not a typesetting program, but if you don't actually need either of those things then it does perfectly well in the right hands.
This is why MS should have focused more on information people how to use their computer rather than changing the OS to be idiot friendly.
Thank you for your common sense and stating what should be ridiculously obvious to most people here but apparently isn't. While reading this thread all I could think of was my experience with the thousands of users I've dealt with, all of whom look up to "the IT guy" for information and, in a roundabout way, training. If "the IT guy" tells them something is bad, they'll listen, pay attention, maybe even take notes or ask questions. And they will remember.
Even a massively stupid user can be taught simple things. They may still continue to be a stupid user, but in most cases they wind up being a stupid user whose harm is limited to their own selves rather than everyone in their contacts list or the Internet at large (botnet node).
Extensions on by default, icons, metadata, executable flags, random new ideas -- none of that is a substitute for knowing the basics of how the hell the "infernal machine" works in the first place and how to defend against attacks, and It is my prerogative as a nerd (and I also consider it an obligation) to teach every "stupid user" I come in contact with how to recognize when something isn't right and how to avoid easily-avoidable malicious activity. Then again, it shouldn't be a surprise that the only "solutions" being bandied about here are technical rather than philosophical.
I find it interesting and a little disheartening reading the comments from folks here who think copyright is some Johnny-come-lately invention and inherently evil. The very first copyright case documented in history comes to us from Ireland in a case against Columba (later St. Columcille) -- almost 1500 years ago. While it may not have been an integral part of cultural structures since then the way it is now, copyright is far and away not a recently-crafted idea, certainly not an American invention. Copyright as *hard law*, maybe; copyright itself, absolutely not. I consider myself far more on the side of the pirates than the traders in this debate, but history is history.
Another point of contention against several posters: This idea of people simply throwing their works out into the public frame for love of the craft and making no money on it until copyright came along is complete nonsense. Classical composers earned livings off their music (well, some did). So did minstrels and troubadours. Artists all over the historical timeline earned commissions for their works. Contrary to the anarcho-communal worldview, music and art are not such lofty and untouchable deities that no one can or should profit from them. I believe such things should be shared, of course, but I'm also a realist and artists need to put food on the table.
On the other side of the coin, I have no sympathy for any musician whining about lost revenue from P2P filesharing. The money in music is now, has been and always will be by and large in the performance and the merchandise, not the recording. As an amateur musician with many professional musician friends, I say if you're not making money as a musician, then either your music is terrible, you're simply a bad musician or ur doin it rong.
All this said, I'm on TPB's side here and hope they come out free and clear in the end.
He may have meant he hasn't seen a BSOD that was explicitly the fault of Windows or a MS application, in which case his claim is not at all surprising. I've seen exactly one in the last four years that I could positively identify as an OS issue; the vast majority of all the others stemmed from bad hardware (usually memory) or drivers, some were from malware and a scattered few were traced to poorly-written/misbehaving applications or ancient programs for Win9x that weren't meant for the NT kernel.
By what objective, verifiable metric is Vista a "failure"?
When our users can't run their apps on it -- not because of any inherent problems with those apps, but with MS's decision to change the codebase significantly such that apps just flat-out break -- it's a failure.
When my fellow geeks and I spend four times as long troubleshooting a serious problem on a Vista box that it turns out is caused by some completely unnecessary change in the way Windows works under the hood, it's a failure.
When you run Vista on the hardware that it was designed for (two cores and two gigs of RAM is about the minimum), it's easily the best released Windows yet, and you would be a fool to run XP on such a machine.
I run XP for games on a dual-core system with a monster video card and 4 GB RAM -- which is more than 32-bit XP can handle, but that's irrelevant because it's also far more than what my games demand. I keep my system patched and have all the bells and whistles turned off except for font smoothing. All my games and a few non-game apps on it work, beautifully. On top of that it is MUCH faster than my Debian/KDE install in almost every way (much to my chagrin). Sit there with a straight face and tell me I'd be wiser to move to Vista.
Go work with some actual users and then come back and ask these:
Which windows applications do you rely on?
Line of business apps that you don't just buy off the shelf, don't run natively on Linux and aren't supported in WINE for obvious reasons.
Is it that old classic, Photoshop? Can I ask how much you paid for the license?
Same with word? Oh wait, you probably pirated them.
Yeah, all the users I support (roughly 300-400 spread across about 25 different businesses) pirated all their software. They all got together one night and had a massive torrent party and downloaded a bunch of keygens and had white zinfandel and snacky cakes.
Look, I love my Debian and FreeBSD at home, and the Redhat in the few places in my field where I actually come across it, but small business users need to work on their actual work, not their golf swing or their nails while I'm spending four hours trying to get ImportantSoft installed in WINE when it installs and works in Windows XP in about 10 minutes.
Nothing would make me happier than if our shop officially supported Linux and FOSS apps, but my happiness doesn't pay the bills and it's sure not going to spread itself to the end users who know their software's ins and outs and don't have time or money to spend a week or more learning all new stuff.
Sad, too, because SMB is a market that's screaming for Linux adoption right now.
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Clarification: I didn't intend that to be snarky, just helpful. I also admit it's not exactly intuitive to use apt-cache for repo/package info mining.
I haven't figured out a similar feature for apt-get or dpkg, despite reading the man pages. As for RPM...I haven't spent much time with RH-based distros, so I don't feel qualified to answer.
apt-cache --names-only search cgi
What if you want to modify it?
I see -- this is why I asked. I wasn't aware that it was a continuation; the patent brief at the USPTO website doesn't seem to make that bit clear, unless I simply don't know how to read patent briefs.
I'm being lazy here, but according to Wikipedia:
Techniques for the asynchronous loading of content date back to the mid 1990s. Java applets were introduced in the first version of the Java language in 1995. These allow compiled client-side code to load data asynchronously from the web server after a web page is loaded.[5] In 1996, Internet Explorer introduced the IFrame element to HTML, which also enables this to be achieved.[6] In 1999, Microsoft created the XMLHTTP ActiveX control in Internet Explorer 5, which is now supported by Mozilla, Safari and other browsers as the native XMLHttpRequest object.[6][7] However, this feature only became widely known after being used by Gmail (2004) and Google Maps (2005).[8]
IANAL, IAN even a legal hobbyist, but wouldn't this prior art insubstantiate the patent?
The editors don't pause. They merely breathe heavy right before they submit stories that generate furious clicking and typing. All that finger action generates excitement, you know.
Some states legally require a copper line for alarm systems.
If I got that right, that's 54 albums, so in cost that's $215 you've spent right there. I bet I could have the majority of that on a torrent in a day or two, for nothing.
What's the incentive for pirates to look at amazon?
Of course you could find all those via torrents -- with no guarantees that an album in a discography won't be incomplete, there won't be any pops, skips or warps in the song files and that your download won't stop at 98% for eternity. Part of the reason I quit pirating is because, just like getting anything else on the black market, the quality often left a lot to be desired.
Furthermore, Amazon has a massive catalog of great albums that aren't freely available as torrents. Some of them you'd be lucky even to find on Soulseek. And all of it downloads quickly; almost all the albums I've purchased from Amazon MP3 were in my music library less than 2 minutes after I bought them. It's 192k MP3, which isn't lossless, but it's not bad.
What was my incentive? Amazon eliminated my desire to pirate by offering me cheap music, the lack of which led me to pirate in the first place.
That's more or less what PowerShell was intended to do: scripting that batch files can't do and is too much of a headache to do in VBS. One of the nice things about PS is that it can interface directly and cleanly with stuff like Exchange and Active Directory. But yeah, it's not a *shell* shell in the traditional sense.
As for ZSH, I don't need to head over there because I've been using it for five years on my Debian box. But I'm glad you mentioned it because my .zshrc is getting a little cluttered and I need to clean it up. Thanks!
Like anything else that depends on what you're doing and how comfortable you are in each environment. Word is not the best tool for crafting a document containing complex mathematical or scientific formulas, or for setting a 400-page book with decorative initial letters, an extensive bibliography and charts with legends and captions. But it's a great program for almost any non-technical thesis or dissertation, particularly in the liberal arts disciplines, and I find it far easier for tasks like creating complicated tables with spanned cells and multiple headers. It's all in how you approach the document and how well you know your tool.
I'm not sure -- "average" business users tend to be quite good with Office products in my experience -- but it's apparently a very low percentage of /. readers. Nevertheless, the tools are there in Word if you want them. It's not for everything, but it does more than some people give it credit for.
...why people think it's not possible to properly lay out a document in Word. If you have equations or some weird complex imagery, or you need to work from master sheets, then no, Word is not for you. But for professional-looking structured documents that don't require some sort of overly technical (use *TeX) or creative (use InDesign) bent, Word is absolutely fine -- provided you know what you're doing.
Having once learned TeX and subsequently discovering I had no practical use for it, I took the same concepts I learned from playing with TeX and applied them to the tool I knew, which was Word (and later OpenOffice). I discovered that by mentally separating content from presentation before I started and learning the finer details of Outline Mode, I could generate far more impressive-looking documents than I ever thought Word capable of. (It helped that I once had almost 2,000 mostly pro fonts to work with as well, but I digress.) TOCs, cross-references, many of the things that make a document "professional", I could do with ease and style, provided I applied and tweaked the formatting at the end instead of on the fly, which is what you're supposed to do anyway. Office 2007 made that task much easier.
TeX and InDesign have their place, but I'm seeing a lot of people bashing Word claiming it can't do some things that it most certainly can. It's not a pro layout program and it's not a typesetting program, but if you don't actually need either of those things then it does perfectly well in the right hands.
This is why MS should have focused more on information people how to use their computer rather than changing the OS to be idiot friendly.
Thank you for your common sense and stating what should be ridiculously obvious to most people here but apparently isn't. While reading this thread all I could think of was my experience with the thousands of users I've dealt with, all of whom look up to "the IT guy" for information and, in a roundabout way, training. If "the IT guy" tells them something is bad, they'll listen, pay attention, maybe even take notes or ask questions. And they will remember.
Even a massively stupid user can be taught simple things. They may still continue to be a stupid user, but in most cases they wind up being a stupid user whose harm is limited to their own selves rather than everyone in their contacts list or the Internet at large (botnet node).
Extensions on by default, icons, metadata, executable flags, random new ideas -- none of that is a substitute for knowing the basics of how the hell the "infernal machine" works in the first place and how to defend against attacks, and It is my prerogative as a nerd (and I also consider it an obligation) to teach every "stupid user" I come in contact with how to recognize when something isn't right and how to avoid easily-avoidable malicious activity. Then again, it shouldn't be a surprise that the only "solutions" being bandied about here are technical rather than philosophical.
Which is why they released PowerShell, and PS is quite well done.
I find it interesting and a little disheartening reading the comments from folks here who think copyright is some Johnny-come-lately invention and inherently evil. The very first copyright case documented in history comes to us from Ireland in a case against Columba (later St. Columcille) -- almost 1500 years ago. While it may not have been an integral part of cultural structures since then the way it is now, copyright is far and away not a recently-crafted idea, certainly not an American invention. Copyright as *hard law*, maybe; copyright itself, absolutely not. I consider myself far more on the side of the pirates than the traders in this debate, but history is history.
Another point of contention against several posters: This idea of people simply throwing their works out into the public frame for love of the craft and making no money on it until copyright came along is complete nonsense. Classical composers earned livings off their music (well, some did). So did minstrels and troubadours. Artists all over the historical timeline earned commissions for their works. Contrary to the anarcho-communal worldview, music and art are not such lofty and untouchable deities that no one can or should profit from them. I believe such things should be shared, of course, but I'm also a realist and artists need to put food on the table.
On the other side of the coin, I have no sympathy for any musician whining about lost revenue from P2P filesharing. The money in music is now, has been and always will be by and large in the performance and the merchandise, not the recording. As an amateur musician with many professional musician friends, I say if you're not making money as a musician, then either your music is terrible, you're simply a bad musician or ur doin it rong.
All this said, I'm on TPB's side here and hope they come out free and clear in the end.
I haven't seen a BSOD in almost a decade.
You must not work in IT
He may have meant he hasn't seen a BSOD that was explicitly the fault of Windows or a MS application, in which case his claim is not at all surprising. I've seen exactly one in the last four years that I could positively identify as an OS issue; the vast majority of all the others stemmed from bad hardware (usually memory) or drivers, some were from malware and a scattered few were traced to poorly-written/misbehaving applications or ancient programs for Win9x that weren't meant for the NT kernel.
By what objective, verifiable metric is Vista a "failure"?
When our users can't run their apps on it -- not because of any inherent problems with those apps, but with MS's decision to change the codebase significantly such that apps just flat-out break -- it's a failure. When my fellow geeks and I spend four times as long troubleshooting a serious problem on a Vista box that it turns out is caused by some completely unnecessary change in the way Windows works under the hood, it's a failure.
When you run Vista on the hardware that it was designed for (two cores and two gigs of RAM is about the minimum), it's easily the best released Windows yet, and you would be a fool to run XP on such a machine.
I run XP for games on a dual-core system with a monster video card and 4 GB RAM -- which is more than 32-bit XP can handle, but that's irrelevant because it's also far more than what my games demand. I keep my system patched and have all the bells and whistles turned off except for font smoothing. All my games and a few non-game apps on it work, beautifully. On top of that it is MUCH faster than my Debian/KDE install in almost every way (much to my chagrin). Sit there with a straight face and tell me I'd be wiser to move to Vista.
Which windows applications do you rely on?
Line of business apps that you don't just buy off the shelf, don't run natively on Linux and aren't supported in WINE for obvious reasons.
Is it that old classic, Photoshop? Can I ask how much you paid for the license? Same with word? Oh wait, you probably pirated them.
Yeah, all the users I support (roughly 300-400 spread across about 25 different businesses) pirated all their software. They all got together one night and had a massive torrent party and downloaded a bunch of keygens and had white zinfandel and snacky cakes.
Look, I love my Debian and FreeBSD at home, and the Redhat in the few places in my field where I actually come across it, but small business users need to work on their actual work, not their golf swing or their nails while I'm spending four hours trying to get ImportantSoft installed in WINE when it installs and works in Windows XP in about 10 minutes.
Nothing would make me happier than if our shop officially supported Linux and FOSS apps, but my happiness doesn't pay the bills and it's sure not going to spread itself to the end users who know their software's ins and outs and don't have time or money to spend a week or more learning all new stuff. Sad, too, because SMB is a market that's screaming for Linux adoption right now.