Also, as a side note, you don't see something inherently unnatural about a diet that requires you to take nutritional supplements just to be in something resembling normal health?
My family has been vegetarians since hundreds of years(I know that because my great-grandparents are ), perhaps a couple of thousands of years, given the culture I come from. I can comfortably say that having to eat meat for 'health' reasons is bs. Of course, vegetarians/vegans have to be much more mindful about their diet.
what the hell are we going to do with natural predators beside man? I mean, it's obviously not right for them to murder other animals either, right?
So, we are going to need a lot of police. Also, how the fuck do you read his rights to a fucking lion with an antelope between his teeth?
Why should what goes on in the wild be a factor in our decision? Humans are different from other animals because we are intelligent and we are civilized. That's what makes us human. That's why we discuss ethics.
If everyone stopped eating meat today, they would have to immediately slaughter billions of cows, chickens, pigs, sheep etc. as the market as every day keeping them alive would be just sinking money for nothing. Nice short-term outcome, is that what you want?
No. But, if everyone stops eating meat(Not necessarily immediately, may be by gradually reducing the consumption), very soon, there would be no more factory farming.
Then rather than saving these animals, the majority would cease to exist, as one of the main reasons we keep them is for their meat.
How are we dealing with the endangered species ? By starting to eat them ? No, right ? We will deal with the currently domesticated species, the same way.
It would also cause the price of products like dairy to skyrocket, it may even become totally uneconomical,
Veganism is an option. Even otherwise, the price of dairy products needn't necessarily skyrocket. First of all, if we decide that dependence on/exploitation of animals is NOT an option, then, we CAN find ways.
The trade is really that they get to exist at all, and we get to eat them.
A few species going extinct is much better than letting them stay around and suffer for generations to come.
Any species that fights its way to intelligence and technological dominance of its planet will be about as aggressive as we are.A species that is not good at stepping over what's in its way to get the resources necessary for survival is a species that doesn't survive.
A statement that is too human centric, I would say. We don't surely know if any life exists at all out there, and you are already making statements about some highly intelligent species' traits, their ethics, their energy sources etc !
How exactly is this comment informative? Having agreed that caste system is still a problem mostly in rural parts of India, I must say you have very little genuine information. Caste system is a social problem, not state sponsored. The fact is that, India has proven itself to be a responsible democracy. You hear incidents related to oppression of lower caste people because press in India could freely report them. How often do you hear specific details of human rights violations in China?
What proof do you have to say that India is systematically denying legal representation and denying justice justice to lower caste people? India is even implementing reservations in all higher educational institutions and in public sector jobs since it's Independence, for people who were traditionally denied justice. And, inhumane working conditions have nothing to do with caste.
Comments such as above prove that westerners should be a bit more informed about the east.
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This technology is at least three years old!
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Also, as a side note, you don't see something inherently unnatural about a diet that requires you to take nutritional supplements just to be in something resembling normal health?
My family has been vegetarians since hundreds of years(I know that because my great-grandparents are ), perhaps a couple of thousands of years, given the culture I come from. I can comfortably say that having to eat meat for 'health' reasons is bs. Of course, vegetarians/vegans have to be much more mindful about their diet.
what the hell are we going to do with natural predators beside man? I mean, it's obviously not right for them to murder other animals either, right?
So, we are going to need a lot of police. Also, how the fuck do you read his rights to a fucking lion with an antelope between his teeth?
Why should what goes on in the wild be a factor in our decision? Humans are different from other animals because we are intelligent and we are civilized. That's what makes us human. That's why we discuss ethics.
If everyone stopped eating meat today, they would have to immediately slaughter billions of cows, chickens, pigs, sheep etc. as the market as every day keeping them alive would be just sinking money for nothing. Nice short-term outcome, is that what you want?
No. But, if everyone stops eating meat(Not necessarily immediately, may be by gradually reducing the consumption), very soon, there would be no more factory farming.
Then rather than saving these animals, the majority would cease to exist, as one of the main reasons we keep them is for their meat.
How are we dealing with the endangered species ? By starting to eat them ? No, right ? We will deal with the currently domesticated species, the same way.
It would also cause the price of products like dairy to skyrocket, it may even become totally uneconomical,
Veganism is an option. Even otherwise, the price of dairy products needn't necessarily skyrocket. First of all, if we decide that dependence on/exploitation of animals is NOT an option, then, we CAN find ways.
The trade is really that they get to exist at all, and we get to eat them.
A few species going extinct is much better than letting them stay around and suffer for generations to come.
Any species that fights its way to intelligence and technological dominance of its planet will be about as aggressive as we are.A species that is not good at stepping over what's in its way to get the resources necessary for survival is a species that doesn't survive.
A statement that is too human centric, I would say. We don't surely know if any life exists at all out there, and you are already making statements about some highly intelligent species' traits, their ethics, their energy sources etc !
How exactly is this comment informative? Having agreed that caste system is still a problem mostly in rural parts of India, I must say you have very little genuine information. Caste system is a social problem, not state sponsored. The fact is that, India has proven itself to be a responsible democracy. You hear incidents related to oppression of lower caste people because press in India could freely report them. How often do you hear specific details of human rights violations in China? What proof do you have to say that India is systematically denying legal representation and denying justice justice to lower caste people? India is even implementing reservations in all higher educational institutions and in public sector jobs since it's Independence, for people who were traditionally denied justice. And, inhumane working conditions have nothing to do with caste. Comments such as above prove that westerners should be a bit more informed about the east.