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A Car You Can Drive With Your Thoughts

An anonymous reader writes "German researchers have demonstrated a car that can be driven with brain power alone. In the video, a driver wears an EEG head cap, which records brain activity. Software converts the neural signals into steering and acceleration commands, feeding the data into the car's drive-by-wire system. The brain-car interface, which the researchers call the 'BrainDriver,' is far from being commercially viable. But it could one day allow disabled and paralyzed people to gain more mobility. It could also, the researchers say, help people control autonomous vehicles, like a future driverless cab; just by thinking, passengers would tell the cab where to go."

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  1. Can't wait to see what happens by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when the driver spots a totally hot jogger on the sidewalk.

    1. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by 1gkn1ght · · Score: 2

      Or worse, you get pissed off at others and just want to start ramming them.

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    2. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      He nails her?

    3. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by thepike · · Score: 2

      I think this could only be viable if we had an I-Robot like automatically driving car situation. So you could just think of where you want to go (to the jogger's apartment) and the car will drive there automatically without further input. And, hopefully, by talking to the other cars would do so without accident. If you have to sit and think "turn left" it would probably end poorly. People's minds just wander too much.

    4. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      On rare occasions I have had involuntary thoughts of veering into oncoming traffic....not that I've actually done it, obviously.

    5. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what happens in Macross Plus, except that it's a thought-controlled airplane in an exercise with two rival pilots.

    6. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 1

      They would have to implement some specific command sequence to actually commit the direction change. Rather than saying "turn left" and the car turning left, they would have to issue a preparatory command like, "polka-dot elephant, turn left", or something completely random that no one would just think on their own, at least not in combination with a direction. But you're right, our minds wander way too much. Even during the typing of this post I thought about my daughter coming home from CA, what to eat for lunch, the tattered, waving flag out my office window and wondering whether or not the fire-truck siren is going to rescue a cat from a tree or a kid trapped in the 30th floor apartment building.

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    7. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they'll need a REALLY good filter on all those "I'd like to hit that" thoughts...

    8. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Kenja · · Score: 1

      That'd be the least of my issues. My thoughts are FILTHY!

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    9. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by somersault · · Score: 2

      OCD ftw!

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    10. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      EEG mind control has existed for ages, and it doesn't work like that - it doesn't pick up verbalized thoughts, but rather general brain activity.

      It is the brain that learns how to control the machine, not the machine who learns how to read the mind. The brain picks up the correlation between lobe activity patterns and machine response, and conditions itself to skew activity patterns in order to make the machine turn/accelerate.

      In essence, not only it cannot receive complex orders, but it also produces a little-studied effect on brain patterns, perhaps permanent.

    11. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      I'd be more interested in a Firefox type system..weapons on the car controlled by your thoughts.

      You get pissed at that slow asshole ahead, and a .50 or mini-gun comes out of the front of your car..and blows that idiot away and clears a way for you to finally pass.

      I'm not saying do this with no warning....the person ahead should at least get an audible "lock" tone going off, to give time to pull over or speed up and get outta the way first...but if they don't...*BOOM*

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    12. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or for those of us who know we're gonna crash..

    13. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by DrgnDancer · · Score: 2

      Sorta like I move my arm without really knowing *how* I move my arm. I don't really have much conscious control over which muscles do what when I think, "Pick up sandwich and take a bite" (why yes, I am eat lunch at the moment), but some more primitive part of my brain translates that high level thought into a series of muscular movements that result in my eating a sandwich (good thing too, I was hungry). On the other hand when the higher level aspects of my brain think "Man that jogger is hot", it doesn't cause my arms to immediately turn the wheel towards her. The trick would be to tap into that part of my brain that causes muscles to move or things to happen, rather than that part which is constantly distracted by shiny objects.

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    14. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what happens in Macross Plus, except that it's a thought-controlled airplane in an exercise with two rival pilots.

      So.... it's not actually exactly what happened in Macross Plus, is it?

    15. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by M8e · · Score: 1

      I'd hit that?

    16. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?"

    17. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd be more interested in a Firefox type system..weapons on the car controlled by your thoughts.

      Gee, I'd heard 5.0 would have some new features, but...

    18. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self: "I would TOTALLY hit that!"

    19. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by tool462 · · Score: 1

      I assume it would honk the horn and whistle.

      "I er-uh couldn't be happier with how that went." -- Mayor Quimby

    20. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      Whoa whoa WHOA.

      Since when are women shiny?

      Have I really been inside too much lately?

    21. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by noidentity · · Score: 1

      On the other hand when the higher level aspects of my brain think "Man that jogger is hot", it doesn't cause my arms to immediately turn the wheel towards her. The trick would be to tap into that part of my brain that causes muscles to move or things to happen, rather than that part which is constantly distracted by shiny objects.

      Yeah, if only we had a device that could detect brain impulses that move muscles, but not ones that merely shift one's gaze or thoughts. Imagine what you could do with a whole matrix of them on a flat surface...

    22. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by cvtan · · Score: 1

      That was the first thing I thought of: "Nice Porsche...Nice house... Pothole!...STOP sign...That girl looks like the one who used to sit next to me in biology class!..BOOM!... Nice airbag."

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    23. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by CecilPL · · Score: 1

      Maybe Sue Ellen Mischke.

    24. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by kryliss · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the chaff and flares option for the other driver. Very important....

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    25. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by kdemetter · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing.

    26. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      I'd be more interested in a Firefox type system..weapons on the car controlled by your thoughts.

      ...but will you have to think in Russian to make it work?

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    27. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by thepike · · Score: 1

      Yes, but they'd have to do something more that just that or you wouldn't be able to actually move your arms (I know this is suggested as being for people without arms, but if you had no hands but still had arms it could be useful) without causing the car to steer. Having the car veer every time you tried to scratch an itch would be a problem, so it couldn't stay this general.

    28. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends on how good the machine is at reading your thoughts. Theoretically, if your brain can control your hands reliably, then it can control the car reliably too. Theoretically. But the problem is the technology, not the daydreaming.

    29. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      They're aren't yet, but in the future when this technology is deployed everyone will be wearing shiny jumpsuits.

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    30. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...when the driver spots a totally hot jogger on the sidewalk.

      Ya, this is the dumbest shit ever.

      Want a brain interface? Here's an idea, how about you hook it up to some, i dunno, maybe ARMS AND LEGS the person USED TO FUCKING HAVE instead of turning the car into a damn cyborg?

    31. Re:Can't wait to see what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the car drives to the car wash. Not so bad.

  2. still need brains by minstrelmike · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perfect. Now we just need drivers with brains.

    1. Re:still need brains by atrain728 · · Score: 1

      Also, sober. Otherwise the line at taco bell would be really, really long.

  3. Squirrel! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what could go wrong?

  4. SQUIRRELLLL!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BAAAHMMM!!

  5. Shit, shit... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Family is in the car. Keep your breathing steady. Don't think about the red light district. Don't think about the red light district. For fuck's sake don't think about the red light district. Or that apartment on the other side of town. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. The mall, man, get a grip on yourself. Think about the mall. Just focus on the mall. *bead of sweat*...

  6. I drive with my thoughts all the time by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 2

    I sit in a specially designed cradle, and biological actuators interface with an electromechanical control system, converting my neural signals into steering and acceleration commands. It was difficult to master at first; my thoughts about where the car should go didn't quite translate into reality, but after time and experience the interface becomes transparent. Nowadays on my regular commute I can even think about or sometimes do other (simple) things while driving (depending on road/traffic conditions). People often however disbelieve this...

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    1. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by orphiuchus · · Score: 1

      ... Are you describing using your arms and legs to drive?

    2. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by nzap · · Score: 1

      Thanks for explaining, I missed the joke at first.

      On a related topic, there already exist controllers that use brain impulses. How is this situation special? I'm assuming it's already possible to make cars completely using digital logic inputs to replace mechanical functions, if you had a car like that, you could just hack a game controller into the car.

      Seems like old news.

    3. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is that a serious question?

    4. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Are you describing using your arms and legs to drive?

      Congratulations, you've just learned reading comprehension.

    5. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am confident that he is.

    6. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's silly how people always long for these "direct" interfaces, even though we already have them. It's mostly irrelevant the mechanism, as long as we can go from thought to information across the interface. Now, when we have high-bandwidth ones that dwarf our current ones, it'll be different.

    7. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...but evolution has developed sophisticated means of keeping out extremities from responding to every single thought. Well, all except one. But that one isn't used for driving ;-).

      Preemptive: That's what she said...

    8. Re:I drive with my thoughts all the time by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      I don't think any cars sold as of yet have fully drive-by-wire steering or brakes. I'm pretty sure by law in the States the brakes must be mechanically connected between pedal and caliper, but that wouldn't preclude electronic control. Hell, I don't think I'd get IN a car that didn't have a mechanical connection between steering and road wheels. And I don't think any exist, really.

  7. I hope the driver doesn't think about ... by mazesc · · Score: 1

    ... Facebook

  8. je me souviens by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 1

    Johnnycab: Please state the street and number.
    Douglas Quaid: Drive! drive!
    Johnnycab: I'm not familiar with that address. Would you please repeat the destination?
    Douglas Quaid: Anywhere just go! Go!
    Johnnycab: I'm not familiar with that address. Would you please repeat the destination?
    Douglas Quaid: Shit! shit!
    Johnnycab: Would you please repeat the destination?
    Douglas Quaid: Aaahhh!

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    1. Re:je me souviens by M8e · · Score: 1

      -Fucking assholes!
      -Confirm: Fucking, Austria?
      -YES!

    2. Re:je me souviens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dennis

  9. Re:The German car I want by theaveng · · Score: 0
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  10. Groundhog Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't drive angry!

    1. Re:Groundhog Day by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Don't drive angry!

      If you can't take out your aggression with your car, then what is it for?

  11. Let's see by al0ha · · Score: 2

    modern studies are showing that overall, people's attention spans are decreasing and their minds are wandering. This fact combined with the fact that many people I encounter these days seem to have half a brain; yep, this sounds like a great idea!

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    1. Re:Let's see by udoschuermann · · Score: 1

      SQUIRREL!

      <CRASH>

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    2. Re:Let's see by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I blame fast tech.

      Used to be the wench spent the whole day doing laundry by hand. By hand. That sucked, so we have washing machines now. That was a good thing.

      But then we invented microwaves and fast food, everyone gets dinner in 1 minute with 15 seconds of effort. Anything worthwhile is extraordinarily expensive because it's cheap and easy to stamp shitty knives from sheet steel and injection-mold everything else from plastic. Want something done well and you have to pay someone $200/hr to do it by hand. Even TV has moved to a largely "on-demand" distribution method. Mixers weren't enough, so we have bread machines so you can just dump ingredients in and hit "bread." We have spray cans that shoot pancake batter. Automatic sandwich makers have yet to be perfected; automatic mochi machines exist though, pour in rice and water and close the lid and out comes steamed, mixed, pounded mochi.

      Everything is instant-access, no-thought, touch-of-a-button. What a waste.

    3. Re:Let's see by davidwr · · Score: 1

      modern

      Sorry, what were you saying again?

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    4. Re:Let's see by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

      What's being wasted? Is it our time? no, we have more time to do what we like. Is it our effort? No, we can do more with less effort. Is it our money? No, our standard of living has risen significantly.

      What's being wasted? Should we all go back to eating grubs from under rocks and wearing fresh animal skins, sacrificing 3/4 of our population to do so? Is it a waste that an excellent craftsman can make $200 per hour? Is it a waste that the unskilled can't make much money? What if the same degree of skill would have resulted in her starving to death 300 years ago?

      Or are you just complaining because it's somehow unnatural or inauthentic to not have to work one's ass off? Would you prefer to not have the choice between a dinner that takes 30 seconds and one that takes an hour? would you rather be forced to pay $100 for every shirt? would you take that choice from others?

      God save us from the shortsighted.

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    5. Re:Let's see by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the really good whores are charging $300 an hour. Any other manual tasks cost far less.

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    6. Re:Let's see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like drinking whiskey while the beans soak. Kidney beans take 12-24 hours.

      I rarely actually eat the beans.

    7. Re:Let's see by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      What's being wasted? Is it our time? no, we have more time to do what we like. Is it our effort? No, we can do more with less effort. Is it our money? No, our standard of living has risen significantly.

      Our standards of living have risen from high-quality hand-baked fresh bread being an 8 hour a day career for the baker, who sells the bread cheap enough for the peasants, to a niche career with overpriced artisan bread tucked away out of sight from the low-quality dough-extended mass market bread business.

      Our standards of living have gone from expensive fancy furnishings and cheap, affordable carpentry to mass-produced particle board and plastic tables and desks, and anything solid wood being up in the realm of the exceedingly rich.

      Our standards of living have gone from good home-cooked meals to lots of high-preservative, ingredient-substituted, vegetable oil crap that still costs too much... but it doesn't matter because nobody can cook, so we live between healthy choice TV dinners and mcdonalds, or maybe expensive sit-down diners.

      And for it, peoples' attention span has gone down precisely because they have no patience for anything. Nobody knows how to cook because they can microwave their food until it's hot all the way through. Dry, chewy, poorly textured, somewhat tasteless, and not exactly pleasant; but it's hot food and it took 30 seconds. God forbid you actually have to mix spices in the kitchen, or set a timer and pull something out of the oven with potholders. It'd be far too much effort and, more importantly, time you could spend on Farmville or watching TV.

      And that's all we want. We want to dump our laundry in the machine and have it sort, soap, wash, dry, and fold it for us. We want to push a button and have a sandwich. We want cars to drive for us-- still takes time, but at least I don't have to pay attention to it. And all so we can just watch TV; actually doing anything with the extra time would be ridiculously difficult, too much effort, can't have that. Maybe a video game.

      The $100 shirt should not cost $100. Textile mills can produce high-quality fabric with mostly mechanical process. High quality materials are easy to properly produce; they cost a bit more, but I get extremely high quality stuff for $5-$10 more than Wal-Mart prices (so $18-$22 becomes $25-$30). It amazes me what Blue Ribbon and Wunderbread pass for bread these days, and what Kraft passes for food at ridiculous prices (for that matter, Snapple's overpriced juice-- all of it is pear juice).

      There is a delicate balance between progress and societal destruction. The washing machine and the light bulb were good ideas. The dishwasher was a good idea-- but in principle less important than the washing machine; washing dishes by hand is viable, and a choice I prefer, although if I had a wife I would get a dishwasher to free up her time unless she felt otherwise (or well, two people work twice as fast... but the volume of dishes would increase). Washing clothes by hand is ridiculous; it literally takes an entire day of continuous labor and it's hard. Electric mixers were even a great idea. Plastic was a great idea; but look at the world of plastic we have and you can probably identify with "I can't find a good X made out of solid $notplastic" going around.

      People need time to process things. They need to have something slow and somewhat meditative in their life, something that leaves their mind with nothing to focus on so they can reflect on things and work through problems. Because people interpret this as boredom now, they watch TV to occupy the mind with meaningless drivel, similar to having a computer compress and uncompress things repeatedly to keep it busy when there are other tasks (like reorganization of memory, for example) that could be performance-beneficial. Entertainment is good, but look at American TV: reused plots, TV series that take place in

  12. Or you could just tap the location on a GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    To tell the cab where to go. If I'm in a cab its because I'm not capable of driving at the moment.

  13. ...and language skills by RDW · · Score: 5, Funny

    'This is very important, Mr. Gant, you must think in German. You can't think in English and transpose it. You must think in German. Do you think you can do that, Mr. Gant?'

    1. Re:...and language skills by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I can and I'm just barely learning German.

    2. Re:...and language skills by gewalker · · Score: 1

      You must think in Russian, not German

      Movie: Firefox -- worth watching once.

    3. Re:...and language skills by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'This is very important, Mr. Gant, you must think in German. You can't think in English and transpose it. You must think in German. Do you think you can do that, Mr. Gant?'

      Oh, you can drive/think in spanish too, as Raul Rojas, the development team leader was born in Mexico.

    4. Re:...and language skills by hajus · · Score: 1

      Yes, but if you rtfs, this car is in _Germany_ .

  14. Road Rage by OglinTatas · · Score: 1

    Road rage is going to fuck this up. What happens when there is no barrier between thought and action?

    OK, I'm exaggerating a bit. No, I didn't RTFA.

    1. Re:Road Rage by justsomebody · · Score: 1

      my best guess is that uncontrolled lunatics would live in the open, while those few who can actually control them selves would live in asylum. it's a simple number and space problem

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  15. Bad idea. by Gunkerty+Jeb · · Score: 1

    I read a story a ways back informing me that first armless man to drive a car modified for men without arms dies in a car crash... Does that make sense?

    1. Re:Bad idea. by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 1

      Here it is. It was one mind-controlled robotic arm and the other was prosthetic and he had been successfully driving for an entire year before the accident.

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    2. Re:Bad idea. by orphiuchus · · Score: 1

      I couldn't find that story, which depressed me greatly, but I was able to find a story about a armless man who headbutted another man(with two perfectly good arms) to death. I feel like that's a decent substitute.

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20844553/ns/us_news-weird_news/

  16. Ridiculous idea by royallthefourth · · Score: 1, Insightful

    People would be better served by a properly designed and well funded public transit system.
    How would someone who is so profoundly handicapped that he cannot move a steering wheel be able to get himself in and out of the car anyway?

    1. Re:Ridiculous idea by MrLogic17 · · Score: 2

      Great! Just find me cost-effective public transit system that works in Wyoming. Or Idaho. Or in any state, outside of the top 2 or 3 urban centers.

      Cars are NOT going away any time soon.

    2. Re:Ridiculous idea by natehoy · · Score: 1

      People would be better served by a properly designed and well funded public transit system.

      Sure, for those areas where public transit is possible.

      How would someone who is so profoundly handicapped that he cannot move a steering wheel be able to get himself in and out of the car anyway?

      You're thinking of a car designed for you, a person with (presumably) unrestricted mobility.

      A motorized wheelchair that could simply park itself into the front portion of the car and transfer control to the car when docked would solve this problem handily.

      I mean, it's not like we don't already have the beginnings of this today. I've seen a number of actual handicapped vehicles where the vehicle has a lift capable of raising a wheelchair on board, and the driver simply rides their wheelchair up through the van and locks it in place where a driver's seat would normally be. The vehicle is, in those cases, adapted for hands-only operation. No pedals, just a steering wheel with a brake and accelerator integrated in. But it does require that the operator have arms to operate the lift, move the wheelchair, and drive the car.

      A machine can be built to do anything if you can figure out how to tell it what to do.

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    3. Re:Ridiculous idea by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      A mind-controlled wheelchair? How about one like what Hawking uses (mini-joystick)? They make wheelchair accessible vans which are well suited for this role.

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    4. Re:Ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The worst part is that instead of improving commuter transit and local buses, we're dumping money into the high-speed rail boondoggle.

    5. Re:Ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Germany already has a properly designed and well funded public transit system. For them, this research is justified and may be the logical next step.

      Now for us Americans, see if we can ever reach the level West Germany was 40 years ago...

  17. I've got an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Have the driver drive with his thoughts after several hours of playing GTA3/GTA4. LOL (but not really. not funny haha.). Driving a real car after several hours of agressive and reckless driving in game usually puts your physical actions in conflict with your imagination --- and so with this device your American Psycho might be given actual passage to the real world.

  18. Instinct by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

    The only way i can see this being good is if its faster than my reflexes. Can it shift before the signal gets from my mind to my arm to shift? Driving is more an instinct than a thought at least in my case. Especially in near crash situations i find that my body "just does" without me having to actually think about the movements.I fear this system will lead to handicapped/disabled drivers driving sluggishly, not being able to pull out of tight spots, and creating more handicapped/disabled drivers.

    1. Re:Instinct by natehoy · · Score: 1

      I hit some black ice this morning while slowing down to help a driver who had managed to get her car up on a tall snowbank (probably after hitting the exact same patch of ice). Several cars that went by also hit the same patch of black ice and a couple of them nearly hit my car as they went by.

      That and this technology makes me wonder. What if you could combine this type of interface, traction control, and a few decent sensors?

      I know what my thoughts were when the car stopped doing what I asked, and thanks to ABS and some experience with slippy conditions, my pulling over to the side of the road was very uneventful. However, it would have been even cooler if the car could have detected my thought (allow me to transcribe it for clarity: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK! SHIIIIT! Whew.") and turned it into optimal control inputs that would have saved me some effort.

      I'd also like to have the same in the 4-5 cars that whooshed by at 15 miles an hour over the speed limit, a couple of them sideways.

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    2. Re:Instinct by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

      Personally i think ABS and TCS are horrible and promote lazy unskilled drivers. Your situation reminds me of norway i think it is. Where to get your drivers license you MUST know how to drift a car. The more drivers aids we have the more we condition ourselves to use them.

    3. Re:Instinct by dwillden · · Score: 1

      Lazy? Do you know how much time and effort it takes to learn how to do donuts in a vehicle so equipped? If I forget to turn off the TCS I have to work to get my rear wheel drive truck to do quality donuts.

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  19. Most thoughts by boristdog · · Score: 1

    So most cabs will be ending up at porn shops?

    1. Re:Most thoughts by natehoy · · Score: 1

      So most cars will be ending up at porn shops?

      What a difference a single letter makes.

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  20. Here we go again.... by cstanley8899 · · Score: 2

    Wow. Another story about driver-less vehicles. Honestly, who believes such ridiculousness will ever exist? One glitch and there goes a sidewalk full of children. Come on... there are too many variables in the real world. This might be great technology for robotic limbs and video games but lets be realistic.

    1. Re:Here we go again.... by Ancantus · · Score: 1

      Who would have thought a computer would win Jeopardy 10 years ago? Who thought that computers could land airplanes 10 years ago? Both are insanely complex and precise systems. Never underestimate human ingenuity and especially progress on computerized systems. If there is a need, (and I would believe saving the lives of countless needless accidents would constitute as a need) eventually someone will fill it.

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    2. Re:Here we go again.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another story about driver-less vehicles.

      Many people don't read the article.

      Some people don't read the summary.

      But you? You didn't even manage to make it through the title.

      What the fuck is wrong with you? Did you get as far as "A Car You Can" and stop there, assuming that the rest of it was "Ride Around In And Go Places Without Anyone Driving It?"

    3. Re:Here we go again.... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Wow... have you thought of cutting down on caffeine?

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    4. Re:Here we go again.... by Geminii · · Score: 1

      So it's great technology for controlling prosthetic limbs which could be controlling a car... but not the car directly?

  21. Thought Bus by DaPhil · · Score: 2
    I recently read a (very good) novel by Walter Tevis ("Mockingbird") which features telepathic buses called "thought buses". They'd listen to your brain stating a destination and drive there. In the novel, they originally also had the ability to "project" thoughts, but that was disabled due to "invasion of privacy".

    By the way, is it just me or is the moderation system down?

  22. Johnny Cabs by Nidi62 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can't we just have Johnny Cabs instead? Tell the robot where to go, and it'll take you there. It can even have the terrifyingly ugly rubber face on it, just to complete the package.

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  23. So in other words... by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 2

    ...at least 50% of America won't be able to use this car due to lack of brain power.

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    1. Re:So in other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meaning more than 50% of Americans won't be able to use it.

      Did you really have to turn it into a partisan bash?

    2. Re:So in other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course he did, this is /. where everything is related to Bush being a Nazi or Obama being a Communist Muslim (mostly the former).

  24. Lice by natex84 · · Score: 1

    ... like a future driverless cab; just by thinking, passengers would tell the cab where to go.

    In latest news, a widespread outbreak of lice has been linked to new taxi cab caps...

  25. Will the toyota ones lock on drive and fail to rea by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Will the Toyota ones lock on drive and fail to read the brake though?

  26. No Thanks by b0bby · · Score: 1

    just by thinking, passengers would tell the cab where to go.

    I'm sorry, I'm not putting some nasty EEG cap in a cab on my head just to tell it where to go. Voice recognition for me!

  27. I hope... by orphiuchus · · Score: 1

    I hope that to steer right you have to think with the right half of your brain, to steer left you have to think with the left, to go forward you have to use both, and the stop you have to shut it off entirely.

    Ok, its a right, a left, straight, then we're there. So just think:

    sin(*x)*cos(*x)*dx, u=(*x), du/dx=...

    Wouldn't it be cool if I had a pet dragon and we could make art together...

    Bigfoot reciting the digits in Pi...

    MTV! Jersey shore!

    And we're here.

  28. Not that bad... by Quantus347 · · Score: 2

    The Emotiv Epoch Headset (http://www.emotiv.com/) was rigged to control a wheelchair a few years back with decent success. And as someone who has spent time training with said EEG headset for controls applications (software in my case, but the function is the same) its not as bad as you would at first think.

    The technology works on simple pattern recognition, and requires a good bit of training, both for the system and the user. A consumer is certainly not going to be able to drive one off the lot. It's not unlike a voice dictation software; the system needs to learn your particular patterns, and then uses simple "If A, then B" logic to trigger events. So you need to learn to have stable/repeatable patterns for reference.

    Well, thats when its trying to detect by pure thought patterns. A much more reliable method is to use the same EEG system to detect specific facial patterns for control (ie blink the left eye to turn left). The aforementioned Emotiv headset can do that right out of the box, with just a few minutes to calibrate thresholds. And since that doesn't have to deal with the interference caused by the different facial ticks, it can be a much more reliable system. Not to mention that its easier to train up a good poker face than it is to control you're whole mindset, especially when spring comes around and all the joggers and sunbathers come out of hiding.

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  29. Re:The German car I want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you want his attention so much?

  30. hal car by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry I can let you drive to jiff lube how about the dealer?

    I'm sorry but mcdonalds is better then BK get out of hear now!

    HAL stop beeping at that hot chick. I can I know you like her.

  31. Road Rage by BitwiseX · · Score: 1

    takes on a whole new meaning. If my car acted out half the things I thought I wanted to do with my car, while driving, I would definitely be imprisoned.

  32. All I can say is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Squirrel!

  33. No thanks by linuxcoder · · Score: 1

    That scares me just thinking about it...

  34. What happens by hellfire · · Score: 1

    The engine gets over revved, you pop the clutch, and suddenly when airbags get in your face, lose your protective restraint, and backfire... all before sheepishly puttering away.

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    1. Re:What happens by slick7 · · Score: 2

      Can't wait for all the dumb blond discrimination lawsuits.

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  35. Singing with the radio? by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

    The Byrds (or Dylan) would be bad.

    To Everything - turn, turn, turn, There is a Season - turn, turn, turn,

    Man, I'd be projectile vomiting before the end of the first verse.

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  36. Do you need the gene? by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1

    Do you need to have the ATA gene to drive the car with your thoughts?

  37. Great... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    So what happens when someone with ADD drives it?

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  38. Some of my best friends are inert objects by umbrellasd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I really don't want a car that responds to my brain directly. One of the great things about current vehicles is that nodding off at the wheel doesn't mean certain doom when you start dreaming of flying. What about day-dreamers? There's a reason we have bodies, and I think it's because being able to move things with your mind would mean that on an off-day you'd accidentally turn your brain into a pretzel (which I'm fairly certain is an unsupported configuration).

    Inanimate objects are wonderfully forgiving.

  39. Isn't that the wrong goal? by wbav · · Score: 0

    I mean I want a car I can drive without thinking what so ever. One that doesn't rely on my reaction time to prevent crashes. One that doesn't need my focus to stay on the road. Where's that car?

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  40. Future driver-less cabs are deaf? by gotpoetry · · Score: 2

    ...or you could just tell the future driver-less cab where you want to go. Sort of how today you can tell a cab with a driver where you want to go.

  41. Here's the problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As explained by a scenario involving my mind:
    "Alright. Gonna try driving a car with my brain."
    "This is kinda neat. I don't even have to do anything."
    "Whoa, that's a really cool car over there."
    "I wonder what it would be like if I had a car like that."
    "How would I even get a car like that car?"
    "Maybe if I turn around my financi--"
    "OH SHIT!!!"
    *Wreck*

  42. NO NO NO!!! by aardwolf64 · · Score: 1

    Just this morning, I was thinking:

    "That guy just cut me off. I should totally sideswipe him and run him off the road... Nah, that would probably land me in jail."

    If this takes off, I'd be writing this from my free Internet connection in prison.

  43. Is it really EEG based? by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

    Or is it just another facial muscle recognition gizmo that forces you to squint and scrunch your forehead?

  44. Driverless cab, foolish idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In order for the cab to get to the person with out a driver, it must already be autonomous... Why the hell would you then have the person put on a helmet and brain steer when the thing *got* there with out their help?

  45. They've got an extension by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for that, don't they?

  46. So if my car continually ends up the car wash... by turthalion · · Score: 1

    ... is it because I have dirty thoughts?

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  47. Anti-GPS? by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1

    After yesterday's story about an anti-laser, this seems to be an anti-GPS.

    Traditional GPS system: The computer is good at taking a start and end point, and finding the most efficient path from one to the other. But, it is poor at precise control actions (steering wheel, accelerator, etc), and poor at making quick decisions in dangerous situations. So, it relies on a human operator to do these tasks. Communication from the computer to the human is the most effective possible: a combination of audio and video.

    Anti-GPS system: Humans are week at finding efficient paths through a network of roads, because there is just too much data to consider. Yet, the human is given this task. The computer is poor at precise control tasks, but is assigned to handle it anyway. The communication from the human to the computer is the least effective possible: brain waves generate weak electrical fields outside the cranium which are translated to a language of left and right commands.

    Some day, quadriplegics will be able drive cars through brain waves. But, they'll just tell the computer where they want to go, and let the computer handle the routing. There is no reason for the human in such situations to actually control the steering.

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    1. Re:Anti-GPS? by dwillden · · Score: 1

      Humans are weak at finding efficient paths? I'd argue just the opposite. We are naturally very good at picking accurate paths. Humans learn the traffic patterns, they know times of day, week and year to use an alternate route due to traffic patterns, holidays and special events. They know to pick an alternate because the radio just said the road was closed for emergency repairs, or due to an accident or weather. A Human learns the streets of his/her town and knows the short cuts off the main routes. I'll admit that we are also at getting into ruts driving the "easiest" route which may not actually be the most efficient, but when we try, we are very good at sorting the variables and choosing an efficient route.

      A GPS usually sticks to the primary traffic routes. And when it doesn't it picks weird routes that don't work. They register dirt paths as roads more viable than nice paved roads. They fail to account for construction closures and so on. Which is why truly driver-less cars are still a ways off.

      Anyone who blindly follows his GPS is a fool. I've yet to use a GPS navigation system that could accurately pick a viable and efficient route on a consistent basis. The maps are always outdated, and cost too much to keep updating frequently enough.

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  48. I have one of these by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    I have one of these. It uses my hands to turn the steering wheel, which turns the joints which actuate the pump which transfers steering momentum to the wheels. As an additional bonus, it uses my feet almost completely independently to operate the pedal which pulls the cable which adjusts the throttle (and alternatively, the brakes).

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  49. Deja vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This has been done before and broadcast on the BBC (with the same headset):

    http://knolleary.net/2010/04/22/how-i-got-onto-prime-time-bbc-one/

  50. I "think" this is a bad idea by jgerry · · Score: 1

    You can't control your thoughts.

  51. In related news.. by formfeed · · Score: 1

    .. traffic jam on the beltline after 500 cars turned into the parking lot of the new strip club.
    Toyota claims it's drivers' fault.

  52. On the cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New Development:

    Hackers have connected the Jedi Mind Trainer to a Mazda.

  53. Nothing new. by pcermomb · · Score: 1

    This technology is at least three years old!

    youtube.com/watch?v=TJJPbpHoPWo

  54. i'm getting robbed! by sgt+scrub · · Score: 1

    wtf. why don't i get to wear a helmet like that one?

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  55. Look! A Squirrel! by blofeld42 · · Score: 1

    Bad for ADD drivers.

  56. Cab cap by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    So you also think that the greasy cab cap is not a good idea? I wonder how many drunks can vomit in it before it quits working.

  57. Re:New energy source? by justsomebody · · Score: 1

    don't know about that, but if cars would follow most drivers thoughts... i can only imagine every good looking babe to finish under the hood

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  58. Re:The German car I want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's clear from your post and sig that you are a strong advocate of free speech. Who's the troll here?

  59. Soviet Russia Joke... by twebb72 · · Score: 1

    In Paulo Alto, Mark Zuckerberg drives YOU!!!!!