My reasons for going with my purchase isn't relevant to this discussion. The point is that I had an android tablet (not a tab2) that couldn't even last more than a day even if I didn't use it at all and left it on standby.
You can call bullshit on my comments if it makes you sleep better at night, but facts don't change just because you don't like them. I didn't own a tab2, but I do have an S3, and it's a steaming pile of horse shit. It's so phenominally unreliable that I can't fathom how it even make it out of the factory. I had to install cyanogenmod on it just to get control over my battery, and even then it only helped so much.
You may be happy to carry around 5 different devices depending on what you want to do. I have no interest in giving myself back strain hauling myriad electronics on top of my day to day stuff. Now I have an iPad Air and so far I'm pretty happy with it. Maybe a Tab3 or a Note would have served me just as well, but given my experience with my phone, I'll be damned if I ever buy a Samsung product again.
The thing is, Apple doesn't sell 'product'. They sell 'experience'. How well does it work? How well does it *stay* working, over the long term?
I used to have a iphone and I had the same complaints as you. Upgrading was too expensive. Not expandable. Not enough control over the device.
So my next device was a Samsung Galaxy S3. This phone has to be the single biggest piece of shit I have ever purchased. Unstable. Burned through battery, to the point where after having owned it for only 3 months, I was getting less than half a day charge out of the thing. Sure, I got the control and upgradability I wanted, but I was forced to sacrifice stability and reliability and security.
These devices are only cheaper when you don't feel that your personal time is worth any money.
I bought a couple of landfill android tablets just so I could have something to read documentation with. Basically, my entire use case was to be an e-reader. The quality of the tablets was so bad that I couldn't even do that well. A battery life of a few hours at most. While in standby.
So now I have an iPad. It's by far the best mobile device I've owned. No, I can't plug in SD cards and expand the storage. Yes, it was expensive. But let me ask you this... how much is it worth to you to know that you can pull out an iPad out of it's sleeve and be guaranteed that it's going to still have battery life. That the screen will turn out, without fail, when you hit the power button?
Apple products are not flawless. They have problems too. There is not a single thing produced by man that doesn't have problems now and then. My iPad has crashed now and then under mysterious circumstances (rarely happens now, after the latest update...) but when you compare that to the experiences I've had with the alternatives, I'll take another Apple product hands down, because I have a life to lead and I have no interest spending my time trying to figure out why something I paid good money for doesn't want to work.
Tablets serve one particular market exceedingly well, better than any other device produced: Casual consumption.
Flipping through email. Browsing boredpanda.com. Reading documentation. Any task where the primary interaction is absorbing content, is excellent for tablets. Especially when you are doing so in a place other than your desk. I don't need a tablet when I'm at my desk. My tablet is utterly fantastic when I'm on the bus, the train, or when I'm in bed and I really really wanna show my spouse that new Hamsters Eating Burritos video.
Trying to shoehorn tablets into being a desktop replacement is just stupid. Sure, you can approach that level by buying a bluetooth keyboard and maybe a mouse if your tablet supports such things, but why would you do such a thing when using an honest to god computer is so much better for the task?
Turning them into a phone-replacement is a possibility, but only within a very limited range of use-cases.
Having a drop in sales was inevitable. Most people who really wanted one have now got one.
So... you buy an GOOGLE Android phone. You buy one that has GOOGLE apps preloaded, because you wanted them. But then you're upset that GOOGLE search is the default, and it requires effort to change that?.....what?
Nah, it's ok that Google is strongarming manufacturers to not include 3rd party apps that compete with Google's.
It's perfectly acceptable that Google is stripping away privacy features from their phones.
BUT DAMN IT I WANT MY CHOICE OF INTERNET SEARCH!!111eleventy!
Considering that they already have drugs that have been properly tested and (presumably) work, I have absolutely no idea....
There's clearly something serious going on under the radar that they don't want us to know about. There's no other reason why they would try so hard to keep people away.
Something of value is lost: we don't want executioners to get psychological rewards from executioning people. By turning death penalty into a circus, we entice psychopaths and sadists to apply for this job. As a society, we don't want to train the next generation of serial killers by giving them these kind of jobs. We want people that don't enjoy executions as executioners, hence why executions should be clean, fast and as boring as possible.
This is a very interesting point that I haven't seen anywhere else, and a point I hadn't considered. Unfortunately I'm out of mod points so I'll just comment instead.
I replied, but something happened to my connectivity just as I was about to hit submit.
The only reason places like East Germany didn't, is because they couldn't. They didn't have this level of technology back then. Not to mention, you didn't have an entire population of people stupid enough to vomit every intimate detail of their private lives onto the internet.
Now? Oh, they'd have a total field day. Given the way Russia has been going lately, I wouldn't be surprised if they started, assuming they haven't been doing so already and were just able to hide it better than the US.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most countries were taking steps in this direction, just because it's so easy to do now.
But the simple fact that between US corporations and the US government, privacy abuses have been so bad (although admittedly still better than some other countries) that there is no chance people would willingly opt into any such system. Even if the current incarnation is honest, there is 0% chance that it will stay that way, for one reason or another.
Everyone older than a teenager should remember the whole Google 'do no evil' thing, and many of us honestly hoped that they would stay that way. Unfortunately, reality had a way of crushing Google's desires to be honest and innocent, and to make a long story short they now they play hard ball just like everybody else.
The idea is great. But the reality would have never worked. Just like both Communism and Democracy.
I think Intel has given up trying to compete directly with USB. Instead, they're pumping thunderbolt to be as fast as it can possibly go, for people who care more about performance than cost.
I can't think of any other reason why they'd be pushing performance so hard while prices are still so absurd that no consumer in their right mind would purchase them if there is a USB equivalent to be had.
We need *more* of these kind of positions, not less. Pure developers generally don't understand, and often don't even care, what happens to their code after it's gone through their build cycle.
There are way too many products out there, especially those in the 'enterprise' category, that are absolutely ridiculous to install, maintain, or both. They let security concerns fly out the window because having some random port open is more convenient to them, and hell with the risks. Developers should be *required* to spend time learning about and maintaining infrastructure on a regular basis so that they understand how their code impacts said infrastructure.
And when I see (usually in the news) posts from other twitters, it makes me wish the other 46% would do the same.
There is very little you can constructively say in just 140 characters. Twitter is great for only very specific scenarios such as status reports, quick facts, quick questions or witty one-liners.
Everything else is just inanity from people who think the more exclamation marks you use at the end of a sentence, the more seriously you should take their statement.
The sole reason I set up an account was so I could follow a couple of local restaurants because they post useful things like their daily specials. And that ST:TNG S8 guy. Too bad he stopped writing new plot synopses.
You keep using the word 'Right'. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Eich did not "have a right" to be CEO of mozilla. He had as much a "right" to be CEO of mozilla as you or I.
The difference between working a very specific job, and trying to deny an entire class of people marriage benefits is so huge I don't even know where to begin.
And you should also lose your right to claim pro free speech when with the other hand you make a concerted effort to deny basic human rights to an entire class of citizens.
How is it not desperation when Microsoft has to start giving away their flagship mobile OS because no one wants it?
Or that they're FINALLY bringing back something resembling a proper desktop UI instead of their ridiculous fisher-price ATM interface that they had forced on people, and in the process added insult to injury on an already flagging computer market.
The only truly interesting/innovative idea in that whole announcement is Cordana, which actually sounds pretty cool, assuming that it lives up to Microsoft's hype. And we all know how completely untrustworthy Microsoft's hype-machine is.
True, if that was part of the use case. Recurring payments weren't mentioned by the parent.
But yeah, if you *need* access to the data (any data) then it can't be encrypted only on the user side. At that point there's nothing you can do besides being dilligent in your security.
If Enlightenment has a problem, it is that to use it to it's full potential - which is vast - one must endure one of the, if not the, steepest learning curves of any DE out there.
In other words then, it will never get used. At least, not in it's current state. A new WM either needs: -to be similar enough to a well established one that people can at least get going with it immediately -be intuitive enough so that, even if unfamiliar, people can very quickly get up and running
From your description, not only do you have to be a power user to make it work, you have to spend a lot of precious time just trying to get familiar with it and configuring it. Which all but a very very slim minority of people will be willing to do.
Personally, I remember trying E17 (or was it E16? I forget now...) and thought even then that it was slick as greased lightning, but that was a long time ago when I had way more free time on my hands. Now? Forget it.
I look forward to when they've reached the point where they provide a good OOBE.
My reasons for going with my purchase isn't relevant to this discussion. The point is that I had an android tablet (not a tab2) that couldn't even last more than a day even if I didn't use it at all and left it on standby.
You can call bullshit on my comments if it makes you sleep better at night, but facts don't change just because you don't like them. I didn't own a tab2, but I do have an S3, and it's a steaming pile of horse shit. It's so phenominally unreliable that I can't fathom how it even make it out of the factory. I had to install cyanogenmod on it just to get control over my battery, and even then it only helped so much.
You may be happy to carry around 5 different devices depending on what you want to do. I have no interest in giving myself back strain hauling myriad electronics on top of my day to day stuff. Now I have an iPad Air and so far I'm pretty happy with it. Maybe a Tab3 or a Note would have served me just as well, but given my experience with my phone, I'll be damned if I ever buy a Samsung product again.
The thing is, Apple doesn't sell 'product'. They sell 'experience'. How well does it work? How well does it *stay* working, over the long term?
I used to have a iphone and I had the same complaints as you. Upgrading was too expensive. Not expandable. Not enough control over the device.
So my next device was a Samsung Galaxy S3. This phone has to be the single biggest piece of shit I have ever purchased. Unstable. Burned through battery, to the point where after having owned it for only 3 months, I was getting less than half a day charge out of the thing. Sure, I got the control and upgradability I wanted, but I was forced to sacrifice stability and reliability and security.
These devices are only cheaper when you don't feel that your personal time is worth any money.
I bought a couple of landfill android tablets just so I could have something to read documentation with. Basically, my entire use case was to be an e-reader. The quality of the tablets was so bad that I couldn't even do that well. A battery life of a few hours at most. While in standby.
So now I have an iPad. It's by far the best mobile device I've owned. No, I can't plug in SD cards and expand the storage. Yes, it was expensive. But let me ask you this... how much is it worth to you to know that you can pull out an iPad out of it's sleeve and be guaranteed that it's going to still have battery life. That the screen will turn out, without fail, when you hit the power button?
Apple products are not flawless. They have problems too. There is not a single thing produced by man that doesn't have problems now and then. My iPad has crashed now and then under mysterious circumstances (rarely happens now, after the latest update...) but when you compare that to the experiences I've had with the alternatives, I'll take another Apple product hands down, because I have a life to lead and I have no interest spending my time trying to figure out why something I paid good money for doesn't want to work.
I'll volunteer the term "Casual Computing".
Tablets serve one particular market exceedingly well, better than any other device produced: Casual consumption.
Flipping through email. Browsing boredpanda.com. Reading documentation. Any task where the primary interaction is absorbing content, is excellent for tablets. Especially when you are doing so in a place other than your desk. I don't need a tablet when I'm at my desk. My tablet is utterly fantastic when I'm on the bus, the train, or when I'm in bed and I really really wanna show my spouse that new Hamsters Eating Burritos video.
Trying to shoehorn tablets into being a desktop replacement is just stupid. Sure, you can approach that level by buying a bluetooth keyboard and maybe a mouse if your tablet supports such things, but why would you do such a thing when using an honest to god computer is so much better for the task?
Turning them into a phone-replacement is a possibility, but only within a very limited range of use-cases.
Having a drop in sales was inevitable. Most people who really wanted one have now got one.
So... you buy an GOOGLE Android phone. You buy one that has GOOGLE apps preloaded, because you wanted them. But then you're upset that GOOGLE search is the default, and it requires effort to change that? .....what?
Nah, it's ok that Google is strongarming manufacturers to not include 3rd party apps that compete with Google's.
It's perfectly acceptable that Google is stripping away privacy features from their phones.
BUT DAMN IT I WANT MY CHOICE OF INTERNET SEARCH!!111eleventy!
*facepalm*
The stupid... it burns!
Considering that they already have drugs that have been properly tested and (presumably) work, I have absolutely no idea....
There's clearly something serious going on under the radar that they don't want us to know about. There's no other reason why they would try so hard to keep people away.
Something of value is lost: we don't want executioners to get psychological rewards from executioning people. By turning death penalty into a circus, we entice psychopaths and sadists to apply for this job. As a society, we don't want to train the next generation of serial killers by giving them these kind of jobs. We want people that don't enjoy executions as executioners, hence why executions should be clean, fast and as boring as possible.
This is a very interesting point that I haven't seen anywhere else, and a point I hadn't considered. Unfortunately I'm out of mod points so I'll just comment instead.
I replied, but something happened to my connectivity just as I was about to hit submit.
The only reason places like East Germany didn't, is because they couldn't. They didn't have this level of technology back then. Not to mention, you didn't have an entire population of people stupid enough to vomit every intimate detail of their private lives onto the internet.
Now? Oh, they'd have a total field day. Given the way Russia has been going lately, I wouldn't be surprised if they started, assuming they haven't been doing so already and were just able to hide it better than the US.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most countries were taking steps in this direction, just because it's so easy to do now.
But the simple fact that between US corporations and the US government, privacy abuses have been so bad (although admittedly still better than some other countries) that there is no chance people would willingly opt into any such system. Even if the current incarnation is honest, there is 0% chance that it will stay that way, for one reason or another.
Everyone older than a teenager should remember the whole Google 'do no evil' thing, and many of us honestly hoped that they would stay that way. Unfortunately, reality had a way of crushing Google's desires to be honest and innocent, and to make a long story short they now they play hard ball just like everybody else.
The idea is great. But the reality would have never worked. Just like both Communism and Democracy.
I think Intel has given up trying to compete directly with USB. Instead, they're pumping thunderbolt to be as fast as it can possibly go, for people who care more about performance than cost.
I can't think of any other reason why they'd be pushing performance so hard while prices are still so absurd that no consumer in their right mind would purchase them if there is a USB equivalent to be had.
At least you weren't ranting about global cooling before it was warm!
I skimmed through all these pages and there isn't a single sentence describing what it does in order to accomplish it's goals.
Ok, great, it wants to have distributed social networking, email, yadda yadda.
Is it using Diaspora for the social networking aspects? Maybe it's using leftover magic beans?
I'm not even going to waste my time downloading this thing if they can't even say how they're planning on achieving those goals.
We need *more* of these kind of positions, not less. Pure developers generally don't understand, and often don't even care, what happens to their code after it's gone through their build cycle.
There are way too many products out there, especially those in the 'enterprise' category, that are absolutely ridiculous to install, maintain, or both. They let security concerns fly out the window because having some random port open is more convenient to them, and hell with the risks. Developers should be *required* to spend time learning about and maintaining infrastructure on a regular basis so that they understand how their code impacts said infrastructure.
Oh bloody hell... Durr... I good math! I got an F for Fantastic! :P
And when I see (usually in the news) posts from other twitters, it makes me wish the other 46% would do the same.
There is very little you can constructively say in just 140 characters. Twitter is great for only very specific scenarios such as status reports, quick facts, quick questions or witty one-liners.
Everything else is just inanity from people who think the more exclamation marks you use at the end of a sentence, the more seriously you should take their statement.
The sole reason I set up an account was so I could follow a couple of local restaurants because they post useful things like their daily specials. And that ST:TNG S8 guy. Too bad he stopped writing new plot synopses.
You mean, like they've already been doing for as long as the concept of employer and employee has existed?
You keep using the word 'Right'. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Eich did not "have a right" to be CEO of mozilla. He had as much a "right" to be CEO of mozilla as you or I.
The difference between working a very specific job, and trying to deny an entire class of people marriage benefits is so huge I don't even know where to begin.
And you should also lose your right to claim pro free speech when with the other hand you make a concerted effort to deny basic human rights to an entire class of citizens.
Why was this marked troll?
How is it not desperation when Microsoft has to start giving away their flagship mobile OS because no one wants it?
Or that they're FINALLY bringing back something resembling a proper desktop UI instead of their ridiculous fisher-price ATM interface that they had forced on people, and in the process added insult to injury on an already flagging computer market.
The only truly interesting/innovative idea in that whole announcement is Cordana, which actually sounds pretty cool, assuming that it lives up to Microsoft's hype. And we all know how completely untrustworthy Microsoft's hype-machine is.
Wow, this just smacks of all kinds of desperation. It's amazing how badly Microsoft fails when they're not allowed to stack the deck in their favour.
Although I'm curious about Cortana. If they make her/him/it sound like GladOS, I would have to seriously reconsider my position. :3
As soon as all your neighbours start using it too, it'll slow down.
*ducks and runs*
...do any other, ahem, organs become more spherical? Because that could be a deal breaker.
Considering that you'd be booking on a trip with a company named Virgin, I don't see how that would be a problem. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
True, if that was part of the use case. Recurring payments weren't mentioned by the parent.
But yeah, if you *need* access to the data (any data) then it can't be encrypted only on the user side. At that point there's nothing you can do besides being dilligent in your security.
If you're using the card info purely as a primary key, then it should work just as well in an encrypted form as it would in it's original.
If Enlightenment has a problem, it is that to use it to it's full potential - which is vast - one must endure one of the, if not the, steepest learning curves of any DE out there.
In other words then, it will never get used. At least, not in it's current state. A new WM either needs:
-to be similar enough to a well established one that people can at least get going with it immediately
-be intuitive enough so that, even if unfamiliar, people can very quickly get up and running
From your description, not only do you have to be a power user to make it work, you have to spend a lot of precious time just trying to get familiar with it and configuring it. Which all but a very very slim minority of people will be willing to do.
Personally, I remember trying E17 (or was it E16? I forget now...) and thought even then that it was slick as greased lightning, but that was a long time ago when I had way more free time on my hands. Now? Forget it.
I look forward to when they've reached the point where they provide a good OOBE.