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Chatroulette Working On Genital Recognition Algorithm
Show them while you can, Internet exhibitionists. Chatroulette is working on image-recognition software that will filter out shots of male genitalia. The website's founder, Andrey Ternovskiy, hopes that blocking the offending members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation. He's even enlisted the help of Napster founder Shawn Fanning. I wonder if someone has told Andrey how well it went for Napster?
What if I have a bisected penis, you insensitive clod?!?!? Or maybe just some really flashy jewelry...
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Oh, I wish this article had a "read more" link to get to the comments...
90% of ChatRoulette users get dropped.
Excuse me while I whip this out.
They should make an algorithm that filters IN tits.
Chatroulette is working on image-recognition software that will filter out shots of male genitalia.
I guess we know where their priorities lie...
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I thought that was what Chatroulette was for.
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The way I read this, it says, "ChatRoulette is a great idea. The only problem is that there's too much penis. Get rid of that and it'll be fine."
Uh, no. Trolls will troll. Showing your junk to the camera is the easiest and most obvious way, but even if you cut that out you'll just face the next thing down the pike. You're never going to out-grief the trolls.
They're going to need something a lot more sophisticated than that. Google's Safe Search uses word context clues. It's far from perfect, but it seems to do a reasonably good job. If ChatRoulette doesn't want to be overrun with trolls, they're going to need to think at least that creatively, which means gathering up a lot more information than "that looks like teh peener".
I thought the whole point of chatroulette was a gamble between seeing an actual person or just a dude jacking off.
Would you hug a bear?
odds are the penis bandits are frequent offenders. let the community flag them for you. once an IP has been flagged enough times, ban them.
crowd source it, let the people decide.
gotta be easier than penis recognition software.
I don't understand why they don't have a simple voting system. If a user does something bad or obscene, vote them down. Then match the poorly rated people with each other. Or just have an obscenity button and if a person triggers it multiple times they get kicked off.
What about the people who want to look at boners? Won't somebody please think of the perverts?!
Though really this is an opportunity waiting to be snatched up. Chatroulette has demonstrated that there is a huge userbase just waiting to wave their willies on camera, so all somebody need do is create software that does something similar, and then make it known that 'this is the new place to flash people on teh intarwebs!' and BOOM instant userbase (= MONAY).
If I weren't so lazy I'd do it myself.
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Chatroulette is working on image-recognition software that will filter out shots of male genitalia.
So women can show their hoo-ha, but I can't show my ting-ting? Where's the ACLU on this one?
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Chatroulette has long featured the rawest side of humanity -- copulating couples, men taking their pants off, and so on. But it also allows for a potentially rewarding (and potentially lucrative) random human connection, and that's what interests investors.
While for me Chatroulette was nothing more than a one-time novelty and an interesting experiment by Ben Folds, I understand it may have a larger value to others. Unfortunately this sounds like Chatroulette is suddenly going to suck the same dicks they are eliminating because someone wants to make a buck.
Let it continue on in the way it has or let it die. Let's stop bastardizing stuff because a bunch of investors don't like others seeing the raging members sticking out from their foreheads.
The link to expand out this story says "View Picture". Needless to say, Do Not Want when main topic is male genitalia.
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This will just result in games where people try to post non-genital pics that get filtered and genital pics that don't.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Faces are a much better understood problem. And since all most of the users want is to see people face to face refusing to show the image (or at least providing a warning) if no face is present would be a much easier solution.
Why not just replace actual photo's with customizable character avatars?
Or rename the site "My Junk Is Better Than Yours"
L'esperienza de questa dolce vita (The experience of this sweet life) - Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
I created an image using a traffic barrel monster with the words "No Masturbate". It got a lot of laughs, even from a few of the guys masturbating (you could tell it interrupted their concentration).
will it filter out dickheads?
and we can an offenders database or such, tracking down pervs and all sorts of fun can be had. I figure if they can filter it they can go further and you know that some government agency or misnamed trust will snap the idea of this and run with it.
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Only recently has it become easier to cut off offensive users; a New Yorker profile last month noted that Ternovskiy made some changes after Ashton Kutcher berated him about what his stepdaughter had seen on the site.
I'm not sure who was actually Punk'd here...Demi's daughter or Ternovskiy.
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that they're working on filtering out male genitalia, while of course leaving the boobies in...
Hey, I am looking for a tool...
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...and you thought fingerprinting was an invasion of privacy...
Anyone worried what will happen when robots get this tech. Its bad enough they can shoot people in the face. Now they will be able to shoot people in the junk.
You're never going to out-grief the trolls.
Woah - hold up a second. Thats a great idea. No you see what they are trying is not to grief the trolls, but keep them out of the system. The idea of outgriefing a troll is an excellent idea, it should be taken to the next step.
Instead of disconnecting or dropping a user that shows his penis, instead flood his browser with tons of gay porn and goatse. Then, cause a whole bunch of message box popups that he can't get out of without killing the browser process.
And thats just an idea off the top of my head. I think if you put more thought into it, you could find some great ways to out-grief the trolls.
I'm going out on a bit of a limb here, so bear with me if you wood...
But seriously, figuring out an algorithm to ID wangs; sounds like those developers are going to be eyebrow deep in junk for a while. That's a job, much like plumbing, that I can appreciate for the value of the product, but can't fathom the drive to devote oneself to.
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I thought the point of the name Chatroulette was to be a play on russian-roulette. How can it be russian-roulette if nothing bad ever happens?
about all those times I am sitting on ChatRoulette eating hotdogs?
I just finished my algorithim to "enhace" my genitalia...
It looks like the line that reads:
"...hopes that blocking the offending members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation."
should read:
"...hopes that blocking the offending members' members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation."
Just my $0.02...
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Holy happy hippy crap!
You know. Sadly I read that as "hopes that blocking the offending members' members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation."
Nobody wants to see *your* naughty bits. Well, not as many as want to see *hers*. Not by a very long shot.
There's a development project I definitely don't want to be in on. Testing that code would leave scars.
for those poor marine invertebrate biologists with websites dealing with the biology of the Priapulida.
...cockblock"
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Could do the same thing.
I think I have a way out of this.
We call the police, and we have 'em send over one of their sketch artists.
And Miss Balbricker can give a description.
We can put up "Wanted" posters all over school.
"Have you seen this prick?" "Report immediately to Beulah Balbricker".
"Do not attempt to apprehend this prick as it is armed and dangerous".
"It was last seen hanging out in the girls' locker room at Angel Beach High School".
Are you new to computer science? It's called "genetic" algorithm not "genital".
It'll be interesting when they start getting false positives: "Sorry dude, but you actually DO look like a dick."
When I first heard about Chatroulette, I thought "what a cool idea?" Then, when I heard about how many sickos are wanking and flashing wiener, that killed it for me. I don't think this algorithm will work, but if they can figure something out before they get branded as that "cock flashing website" they'll probably bring in more prudish people like me.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Actually - that's a great idea. Griefers will grief, it's what they do. But if your anti-griefer measures are t ogrief the griefer, they might actually get tired of being griefed themselves and stop griefing. i'd liek ot see this in a MMO. Where someone corpe camps a much lower character and GM's show up and corpe camp th griefer! haha.
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"I wonder if someone has told Andrey how well it went for Napster?"
I didn't realize that Napster's failure was due to its single-minded focus on creating a genital recognition system.
I'd hate to be on the QA team that gets to test that "feature"... Charlie, can you please stop pulling out your thing and just use a dildo like the rest of us?
Programmer 1: So, yeah, we need more pictures to feed to our AI.
Programmer 2: They're on this jump drive. Should I plug it into the front USB port, or the rear?
P1 firmly grabs the drive, and plugs it into the closest port he could find
P1: Wow, that's...quite a load.
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Don't block them, just limit the dudes whacking it to connecting with other guys whacking it lol.
I thought the whole point of chatroulette was a gamble between seeing an actual person or just a dude jacking off.
Like global thermonuclear war, "The only way to win is not to play".
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an old WANG algorhythm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM
...But jerking off on Chatroulette is actually really fun. It might take a hundred "nexts" to find the one room full of sexy college girls who want to see you jerk off ... but when you do, it's really hot. I can only imagine how satisfying it would be to be a gay guy and to be able to find an anonymous wanking parter in about 3 or 4 clicks.
Will it then also recognize and block dickheads?
The issue with Chatroulette is that there's complete anonymity. No persistent identity, no reputation, nothing to enforce any sort of social norms.
If you want to meet new people via video chat, I am sort of sad to admit, but doing it in the context of a social networking site like Facebook might make more sense. Not that I specifically advocate Facebook, for a variety of reasons, but it's there and lots of people use it.
There are several Facebook apps that let you do this - because you are connected in to your social network there and there's a relationship to people's real identities, there's just naturally going to be less trolling and stupid behavior. Check out AmigoChat for one (I know the guys that wrote this one which is why I mention it). I'm sure there are others too.
Obviously this isn't a guarantee that there won't be weirdos or pervs, it's just likely that you'll see fewer people exposing their genitals in an unwanted manner. In any case no algorithm is ever going to filter out all the pervs.
"sorry, you are not allowed to use this service, dickface"
How much would have to be paid to stare at penises all day?
My first read of the headline thought of Genital Recognition in the same way that Facial Recognition (there's some prime joke material right there) is used. Basically, trying to ID people by their genitalia. So when I got to the bit about male genitalia, I thought "Who'd want to do that???"
William of Ockham had no beard. The most likely explanation is that it was chewed off by squirrels every morning.
i've worked on face detection.
you can use viola jones algorithm.
They already have thousands of image-recognition devices: their users.
Put a button next to the image that says "Report Penis".
When pressed, it brings the offender up on an admin's screen, and the admin can verify the report and close the connection if necessary.
A couple of days of that, and offenders will get the hint that it's not wanted there.
Some won't, but they're the types who won't be deterred by pixellation of a subset of penis-like images. CR will end up having to develop testicle, taint and W-hole detectors.
You mean chat-roulette isn't dead yet? that was a nice fad for about 2-3 weeks.
Why don't they just make 2 versions of chat-roulette, G rated and an anything goes versions?
They also better start filtering out all the tits, vag, and porn being played back through virtual webcams
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I'm wondering if this is just to filter out guys who are already naked, or if it is going to auto-disconnect as soon as someone whips it out?
Sure, 80% of it is just solo guys whacking away, titillated by simply having someone see them, if even for a second. But sometimes you do land on a real-life, not-a-recorded-loop girl who wants to have some fun, so you both go at it. Or 2 couples having a go for all to see.
I'd much rather see effort go in to blocking the advertisements and the fake girl loops that everyone's seen a million times now. Sorry Maya, but you've asked "Do U like me?" one too many times.
...wouldn't want to put Taco Bell out of business.
rj
it's genital detection. genital recognition is uniquely identifying genitals as belonging to a particular individual.
Phwew, for a minute there I thought a Genital Recognition Algorithm would be able to recognize WHOS genitals are in the picture.
Whip 'em out, we're still safe for now.
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They aren't kidding when they say there's a lot of people jacking off. Out of the 20 or so people I saw, the majority were jacking off or black screens. But there was one hot chick! Guess it's roulette after all.
I'm a member in good standing. See for your self.
It isn't my fault I've got a nose like [Gonzo]
Then perhaps you shouldn't have been telling so many lies.
Or what if I have a head shaped like [Bert's]?
I take it you've been palling around with terrorists.
clearly you haven't watched the last season of southpark, facebook episode
On a side note, fuck these censorship whores. What if someone wants to look at dick? Who is chatroulette to say what and what I can't look at?
fucking nanny shite
It's amazing how fast spammers can adapt to new media, websites,etc.
Last time I tried using it, just about 60% of the users I connected with just had a video on loop trying to advertise a website. Until chatroulette ups their game(accounts, captchas, etc), it's going to quickly fade out.
heh... the summary says "offending members"... heh
along with the rest of the slashdot community
zing!
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Trolls will simply hold up a sign in front of the webcam that says "Giant hairy penis" with a printed link to a myspace account. (showing pictures of said penis)
Other fun things, would be including things like pictures of mushroom stalks, erotic vegetables, and pictures of the less savory of political and corporate individuals.
you surreptitiously run another, completely unrelated, site called RankMyPenis, where gay men can rank fresh Penis. Anything that isn't a penis, they mark as "Mark as spam for investigation", but obviously won't throw a fit over. They'll complain that seventy out of every eighty pictures is spam, but you know what? They'll keep clicking for penis. And that's a fact.
We have FAR worse things to do to asshole players than just corpse camping. I am a senior GM who has unrestricted write access to the database, and I just love excuses to abuse it. Oh, and we don't just stop with the asshole either; We'll figure out who his friends are and fuck them up too, and make sure they know who attracted our attention. And don't bother whining about it either; For every one of you we show to the door there are a hundred other players who will appreciate your absence, so it's a win-win situation for us.
Actually, now that I think about it, DO bother whining - We just love posting your petitions in the cubes next to your rap sheet so we can get a good laugh out of it.
Like the miniature sombrero and fake mustache I already wear on my wang when on CR. You can never be too safe on the internet...
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Though a 1 or 2 layer neural network would likely make as quick a work of cock as they do of faces.
I can't wait for the Eigenpenises dataset to show up on the UCI machine learning repository.
Is Shawn Fannings mom came into his room while he and some friends were comparing genetalia and he told her "don't worry its for work"......
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Hook them each up to an EEG and sit them in front of a media stream. The algorithm from there is simple.
There are hundreds of well documented face recognition algorithms that are fast and reasonably reliable. Why not just ALLOW faces, DENY others?
An odd response, I thought CR was an exercise in collecting amateur pr0n from unsuspecting users who sign their rights away when they use the site. Maybe they got enough?
Do you remember the movie Porky's? Remember when the guy suggested that they get a police artist to help create a sketch of that guy's crank so that the girls' gym teacher could track down that guy?
This article reminded me of that.
Has anyone considered that maybe people WANT a site where they can be exhibitionists and voyeurs?
This is what I never understood. You have two things which intrinsically go great together - sex and the internet. Start serving ads between partners. Allow a subscription model that lets you maintain a "friends" list, or higher quality video feed. There are ways to make money off this.
But instead, let's turn it into yet another site full of boring people talking about dumb shit. Now instead of a chance between boring people and sex, you now have boring people. All the time. Because Chatroulette wants to attract investors.
Has anyone there considered that maybe they are seeking the wrong investors?
The website's founder, Andrey Ternovskiy, hopes that blocking the offending members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation.
It depends on who *she* is. No fatties.
The Potter Stewart algorithm.
And here I got excited that there was going to be software that recognizes people based on their genitals. Which would actually be incredibly useful, for things like tracking down missing / exploited children. Instead, it's a fluff piece about the extent to which Chatroulette is a sausage fest. Terrible.
will they do something about goatse? ah, must be very hard to distinguish it from camera turned off..
Oh wait, you can...
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aren't they just as offensive? ...or is this part of the feminist agenda?
Why not just a "Junk" button?
Just like you hit the "Junk" button on email, you hit the "Junk" button when you see someone's junk on ChatRoulette. The system records the number of "Junk" hits on that user's camera per N second period, and, voila, problem solved for that session. Even better, pop up fake users to the Junksters so they stay on one camera for the rest of their session.
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return true;
I hate you so much! Now I have to wear a hat whenever I use Chat Roulette.
Buffer overflow
"Genital Recognition Algorithm blocking the offending members "
Just sayin'
Not only would this software allow the site to connect the penis-wavers to each other, it could also target ads for sexual toys at them.
Now come up with boob-recognition and classification software and "We have your size in stock" bra ads can be targeted as well.
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maybe you could make an ArtificialNeuralNetwork and teach it to recognize the things you want to censor
and put some extra code on it that makes all those pixels black??
I don`t know anything about ANN`s apart from that its used for pattern recognition
only vaguely read something about it so I may be way of about what you can actually do with it
and I assume it is to hard to make something like this or it costs to much power/time/money to be useful
but if I am wrong or andrey think its worth it and can pay for it
it could be a possible option
unfortunately it probably not possible or too expensive
Now, that's not the way to do it in today's age. Why can't you just implement live editing of tags for each participant? Each participant can edit the other person's tags, removing any false tags and adding whatever they think is accurate. You may then even be able to build a user reputation system that retains tags from trusted users for minimum periods. Hrm, what a novel idea... Then the community will organize itself, and as long as each user contributes, there should be a reduction in less desirable content therefore enhancing user experience...
Crowdsource when possible.
Oh hush up, you know that's not true, however most of them are usually referred to as "Republican Senator..."
That's balls-out hilarious.
I've seen the captcha wars: this sounds 10x worse. Who know what kind of new Japanese porn will evolve as a result.
Is truly the mother of invention.
I know, it's all Linux users currently.
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The AI can utilize user-created creatures from Spore to train.
I once had the unfortunate experience of talking to a gnaa member. He was bitching about someone "hammering" his own webserver by requesting the same page over and over. A guy who spend all time bragging about how he attacked other peoples servers complaining bitterly about how someone was loading the same page on his own server.
A troll would scream bloody murder if he was attacked and sue the hell out of you. Trolls are not decent people, they do NOT like their own medicine.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
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i did a general pornography detection filter as a final project in an image processing class my senior year of undergraduate college... their best hope is around 90% detection with ~15% false positives. for the applications i was shooting for, that wasn't acceptable... for chatroulette, it might be, but even at 95% you're still getting 1/20th of the dicks. if most people on the network are dicks, that might still mean getting a dick almost every time. might as well just start selling boner pills and embrace your market rather than attempt to squash it.
Boy, that'd make false positives realy fun.
I explicitly release the above into the public domain.
Don't use the ratings to assign a single good/bad score for each individual, use it to cluster people into groups which are more likely to be matched together. Using that approach, when a troll votes down an average person it isn't an abuse of the system - rather it improves the system by making it less likely that a troll will be grouped with average people.
I'm glad I don't have to code it... although I'm sure it wouldn't be so bad for some gay coders (or you'd just become completely desensitized to cock)
Instead of dropping them, silently set the "shows his dick" bit in the account and only connect them to other accounts with the dick bit set.
Then just add a 30 day ban on any IP address that creates multiple dick accounts in a single day.
"Offending members". He he.
I don't get it, why is it too late for them to create their own instead of buying someone else's product?
Security is mostly a superstition... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. - Helen Keller
The word "phallic" exists because so many things look like dicks when they are, in fact, not actually dicks.
I don't believe in time. It's a grand conspiracy designed to sell watches.
i have seen some sort of basic filter in place because when i click through all i get are guys hiding, then jump out showing their wang, or covering it then then show it.
...
will this filter check every frame of every cam out there? pretty hard to do...
as another user here said its probably better using a reputation system to knock down the ones you know and apply the filter to that.
this also brings up anonymity issues, will/can users be identified?
It's not a typo if you understood the meaning!
So that's going to filter dick heads out? What a great invention.
Too bad they can't call it the weiner filter.
Perhaps this classic paper might be worth a read to him. The figures are hilarious: "Finding Naked People", by Margaret Fleck, David Forsyth, and Christoph Bregler http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.47.8929
His roommate did, and he stole it while the poor bastard was asleep...
It's a program that blocks images of penises. It's a digital cock blocker.
How about letting people view whatever they want, but if most other people don't want to see it, someone needs to wait a bit longer to see it. My idea is the following:
* Each user has an associated 'blur time', which is the amount of time before the picture will be completely visible with no distortion
* When a user is encountered, the distortion starts at something large, and ramps down until zero at the blur time
* The blur time is a function of the time taken for people to change to another user -- if they change before blur time is over (or shortly after blur time is over), then the blur time is increased, otherwise blur time is reduced
* Blur time is capped at a particular time, say 10s
So if people really want to see everything, they just need to wait 10s after each change.
Ask me about repetitive DNA
Check out moot is doing to /b/.
When you open up the site, you hear, "Hey, want to hear the most annoying sound in the world?" and then a non-stop "BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ."
It doesn't seem to be working..
So their idea of protection is the algorithm method?
Please?
so bear with me if you wood...
Should that be "bare with me while I get wood?"
What's amazing to me is not the technology that is supposedly going to be used to filter out filth.
It is the way so many men who claim that they are not gay actually spend so much time thinking about other men's dicks!
Freudian! No?
I'm guessing they won't be censoring female nudity.
Of course, they never claimed to be doing this for anything other than financial gain, so I guess it's not really hypocritical.
blocking the offending members
lol. I still find it hilarious.
What worries me is that one of these days, after some twat has stuffed explosives up his rear, we'll all have to bend over and be subjected to a genital scanning and recognition device built by Goatse Security before boarding an airplane.
We already have to go through a digital strip search after that stupid underwear bomber. I don't like where this is heading...
Why not just roll with it, have Fanning help create, and make a new company called Fapster.
I guess I'll have to put on my robe and wizard hat...
... that beavis and butthead aren't reading through this topic otherwise they'd laugh themselves to death just from all the buzzwords alone, not to mention the jokes that go with them.
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Will also drop users eating sandwiches with heavy amount of roast beef.