I'm not for spam by any means, but I've SEEN what blacklisting can do to a web provider before they even know what's hit them.
Have you seen what can happen to a small company when some spammer uses a fictitious "From:" address in their domain? They are often paralyzed by bounced messages and angry complaints. So don't tell me about the poor (negligent) web provider that left an open relay.
Wait a second, he said web provider, not open-relay. Since when does a professional web hosting company automatically equate to open-relay?
In reality, many hosting providers are added (without warning) to blackhole lists due to spamvertising web customers, not because of open-relays they run. When this happens, specifically with poorly maintained blackhole lists, it can be very difficult for the provider to get de-listed, even if they have a tight anti-spam AUP and have dealt with their customer accordingly. I've seen this happen personally.
I've seen one or two blackhole lists with absolutely no contact information. No way to get off of them. This is just pure irresponsibility, plain and simple.
Poorly maintained blackhole lists can be worse than no blackhole lists at all, so I would have to agree that their should be some sort of blackhole blacklist, if for no other reason than to alert SMTP admins that they may be inadvertantly blocking perfectly legit and professional hosting companies that don't run open-relays.
By definition, it has already infinitely collapsed. How can it "collapse" again?
Theoretically, it could "evaporate" (Hawking radiation), but for stellar (or larger) mass holes, the energy emitted via Hawking radiation is less than cosmic background radiation. Thus "evaporation" can't even begin for a long, long time. Long after all fusion in the universe has ceased.
Wouldn't emergent behavior typically be seen as malfunctioning, from an engineering perspective?
What do we do with computer systems that are malfunctioning? We attempt to stop the system from malfunctioning, often by interrupting it's normal operation/execution and modifying code so the behavior is logically what we expect.
There's a realism issue here too as well. There is just NO WAY to provide your kids with uncensored Internet access and not have them see pr0n. It's just not realistic. When I was 11, I was sneaking peeks at Penthouse and the like (and girls were too!), so I think the we should just collectively (speaking for the US mainly, Europe doesn't seem nearly as prudish) just Get Over It.
Sex exists (in fact, it's pretty damn cool). Kids want to know about it. Let them.
While the distributed concept of this approaches something that might be called cool, there is already a remote tool installed at many NAPs which provides similar functionality in terms of reverse traceroutes and considerably more (BGP, etc). It's called looking glass, it's open source (perl) and doesn't carry around the broken subscriber model that this traceloop crap has.
Man, this could get me back from Debian. Slackware was my first distro, and you never forget your first...
Right. My first was slackware as well. I'll never forget the pain of not having real package management. I'll never forget how happy I was when I dumped it for RedHat (this was years ago, before RedHat became RootHat).
My progression, in about two years, went from:
Slack -> RedHat -> Debian Goodness (still here!)
Debian is like crack.
My company does business with Cyber Entertainment.
Specifically, we provide them with a fair number of email boxes.
While I certainly cannot attest for their practices with regard to AOL, I have noticed that they appear to follow their AUP closely; at least when it comes to us.
In every instance where a large number of complaints have come our way (generally because someone found one of the email boxes, discovered who the ISP was, and started hammering our abuse department), Cyber Entertainment has handled the issue quickly and professionaly, instantly terminating (or at least we never heard another word about it) their relationship with the offending spammer. In fact, we've seen numerous misplaced emails from former "webmaster affiliates" who are VERY upset that CE refuses to do further business from them.
Logically, I think CE views the whole thing (until now) as quite a scam.
Think about it: They get to have other individuals/companies spam for them, but once the spam is reported, CE can sever the relationship, not have to pay the spammer a dime, yet still reap the benefits of spam.
We register domains via OpenSRS (which is great BTW).
We have had numerous incidents of Verio calling newly registered domain owners one or two days after registration offering web hosting and authoring services, much to our dismay as we are already performing these services for the customer. Verio's response to this was that they were perfectly in their rights to do such, as all that the accredidation restrictions do is prevent email spam, NOT direct telephone solicitiation. Bah!
We contacted register.com at one point, and learned that they had already filed suit against Verio for exactly this. On December 8th, 2000, an injuction was granted against Verio prohibiting this behavior.
I do not know the current status of the suit beyond this.
is one of the BBC style radio play serials of LoTR.
I'm sure the/. crowd has to be familiar with some famous radio serials, such as Star Wars, Kenneth Graham's The Wind in the Willows or (most famously) The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
There's something magical about radio plays that film or video will never capture. I can't imagine a subject more fitting than LoTR.
Here in BellSouth territory, it's common knowledge that Bell does everything in their power to derail competition.
For example, they have managed to get a stranglehold on DSL. How did they do this? Despite the fact that competitive providers have DSLAMs at the COs, Bell still has to go out and handle any "last-mile" issues. When they are required to do this for their DSL competition, it's all too common for them to be too short staffed to handle the job. Delay after delay after delay sets in. Four to six weeks pass, and the end customer STILL doesn't have DSL.
Oddly enough, should the customer get fed up and elect to choose BellSouth's "Fast Access" DSL service, a technician is somehow immediately available and dispatched. We've even had reports of Bell techs, dispatched by Covad/Netrail, telling customers that "there is a problem with your line, it's going to take a few weeks to fix. However, if you want BellSouth DSL, there are other things we can do to get it working immediately." Of course, this is NOT Bell's official policy, and they'll deny it to the ends of the earth if you call them on it.
The whole thing is a joke. The baby bells will do anything in their power to hang on to their monopolies, including breaking the law.
Those of use that are clued are very skilled at technical diagnosis. By the time we pick up that phone, we have already invested copious amounts of time in research. We know problem solving skills and by the time we're on the phone, we already have a good idea where the problem is. We don't need someone to walk us through cablage and TCP/IP; we need a like-minded clued individual who can confirm our logic and replace faulty hardware/fix telco issues/etc.
That's the problem, though. We need to do this and we need to do that, but, when it comes right down to it, how many of us actually get off our fucking asses and do anything? How many people who constantly whine and bitch as their freedoms are slowly usurped from them also support the EFF through donations? How many write (not email, WRITE) their congressman every time a boneheaded bill is introduced? Judging by the outcome of trials and the passage of various and sundry laws in the past few years, I'm willing to bet the number is pretty damned low.
Even worse are the people that whine and bitch about whining and bitching, but never do anything about it.
Everyone knows that a CD sounds distinguishably better than an MP3 encoded from it (though usually not by much if the MP3 is 128-bit encoded).
Right. 128kb-encoded mp3s sound like garbage. I'm amazed that people find them acceptable. The highs are SO washed out and so much clarity is lost, it's almost painful to listen to 'em.
I have a four tooth bridge composed of titanium underneath a ceramic coating (which is dyed to look like natural teeth). It's very aesthetically pleasing; quite impossible for the casual observer to notice the difference between it and real teeth. It was also quite expensive ($3500).
Nobody likes to lose their natural teeth; my sole consolation was that I could "officially" state that I had a piece of titantium "in" my body (the bridge is permanently cemented to two natural teeth which have been filed down). Hell, it's almost bionic; they'll far outlast real teeth. If I'm ever involved in a major air/auto accident at least they'll be able to "identify him by his bridgework."
Now that titantium stands the chance of becoming common place, I'll be just another geek with titanium implants.
After mulling your suggestion over for a bit, I think you're probably more right than wrong. There are 3 meanings I considered: civil as in civilized, civil as opposed to criminal, and civil as in civilian. The last is probably the closest. But I hope I don't sound weasely pointing out that your "violent or armed" criteria would cover civilian murder:) Also, the 'disobediance' part probably does rule out all sorts of felonies. It's more akin to refusing to things than to rioting or other criminal enterprises.
The "Civil" in "Civil Disobediance" is short for `civilized'; and I take it to mean behavior which is not strongly objectionable in a civilized society. Murder and other forms of violence are actions that I (and most others in our society) feel are objectionable and uncivilized.
The whole `disobediance' bit resonates of one intentionally, and publically, violating the very law(s) [in either the legal sense or the societal] that one objects to. For example, a black person refusing to take their "proper place" at the rear of the bus is an act of civil disobediance. It's the way that objectionable rules get changed in a civilized society.
To that end, those who feel strongly that portions of current copyright law are particularly unappropriate for modern society might do well to closely examine "civil disobediance" and it's proper use; with special focus on both its public and sacrificial natures. During acts of civil disobediance it is often necessary to willfully commit illegal acts and suffer the (hopefully unfair) consequences in order to send the proper message to the public.
Such acts, if commited noblely, are often oft considered by historians to be great works of courage and vision.
BTW : Your argument sounds like the foolish arguments back in the early days of linux when all hardware support was compiled in via make flags : That was a BENEFIT because it gave a super ultra customized kernel that was super duper optimized! Of course now Linux operates almost entirely like NT/2000 with loaded devices, as it should so the song has changed : Loadable modules rule! Apache is moving to a thread architecture (2.0?) versus spawning a separate process because it is ABSURD to spawn a process for every single user, and when that happens the same people who are now carrying on about the super stability of Apache will be talking about it's superior multithreading architecture.
Actually, it's only absurd when you have extremely heavy-weight processes like NT/2000 does. Keep in mind that unix processes are actually light-weight (in comparison to NT); much more akin to what you think of as "threads" under NT in terms of performance.
In that light, Apache's operation as a pre-forking server is actually quite robust. Most NT admins don't understand this because they have been brainwashed by Redmond into thinking "processes bad, threads good."
I have, in the real world, run a production web server handling 3+ mil hits a day.
The server was a PIII 350, 512M ram, 20 gig IBM LVD drive. Kernel 2.0.36 (this was a while ago), Apache 1.3.x. The Apache was home-rolled with only the static modules we needed compiled in. We tweaked Apache a bit to allow > 256 childern. We also tweaked the kernel to allow more open files and other standard performance related tuning.
About 10-15% of our content was dynamic (perl), the rest static HTML and images.
The result: 0.50 to 1.00 load avg
Response time was also excellent. We had about 300 apache slots used at a given time, peaking at 400. I give that a definite thumbs up.. and I wouldn't even think about it with IIS unless you have ZERO dyanmic content.
I'm tired of the good guy/bad guy thing. The world isn't polarized so perfectly. Unfortunately we don't have the makings of a perfect movie here with the ideal victims and the examplary villain.
This really isn't a great ideological battle like the Scopes Monkey Trial. The core issue at hand is can a service be held liable if that service is used for illegal activity?
Myself, and many other/.'s (I suspect), disagree with you. This is an ideological battle.
It's an ideological battle over the freedom of information. Nobody's claiming that giving a copy of a copyrighted work to someone other than situations covered by fair use or licencing isn't a violation of copyright. What we're saying is that the there is something fundamentally skewed with the concept of intellectual property (at least in certain cases); and thus copyright law. As you pointed out yourself, theft is not the issue here, yet it is so often held as the very basis behind IP law.
Ideological battle? Yes, very much so.
Re:Sheesh - oxygen will kill you. So will air.
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I'm a PADI certified scuba diver. The claim that beathing "plain old air at 300 feet, and you will die" is so much bullshit. Plain and simple, no other name for such rank misinformation.
Of course, if you want to go down to 300 feet "breathing plain old air" you're going to have to have enough air in your tank to do the necessary decompression along the way to the surface.
I would not use air though for 300 feet, I'd go with a Nitrox mix in my tank.
I strongly suggest you take a refresher course. You are a danger to fellow divers. It's also painfully obvious that you don't know the first thing about Nitrox. One of the main tenents of technical diving is that O2 is TOXIC under elevated partial pressures. Diving on EAN32 (32% oxygen Nitrox, a common mix) would most definitely be lethal at 300 ft.
Here's the math, we'll consider a PPO2 of 2.0 (200%) to be toxic, which is rather liberal considering that divers typically regard 1.4/1.5 to be the limit.
300 ft is 10 atmospheres (300 / 33 + 1) 32% O2 at sea level is 0.32 PPO2, at 10 atmospheres, that's 3.2 PPO2 (320%!).
Even air (21% O2) is potentially lethal at 300 ft. 21% O2 = 0.21 PPO2 * 10 AtA = 2.1 PPO2 (210%!)
I download mp3s and decode them and burn them to cds to listen to in my car, and the quality is close enough to CD that most peolpe cant tell the difference between it and a store-bought CD.
Also, I use a direct link from my home stereo to my computer to play mp3s with, and again, the quality is great.
Then you must have fairly crappy home audio equipment. Anyone with even modest gear can easily hear a tremendous difference between the decoder in a cd/receiver stereo component and a consumer-level PC soundcard.
I'm not for spam by any means, but I've SEEN what blacklisting can do to a web provider before they even know what's hit them.
Have you seen what can happen to a small company when some spammer uses a fictitious "From:" address in their domain? They are often paralyzed by bounced messages and angry complaints. So don't tell me about the poor (negligent) web provider that left an open relay.
Wait a second, he said web provider, not open-relay. Since when does a professional web hosting company automatically equate to open-relay?
In reality, many hosting providers are added (without warning) to blackhole lists due to spamvertising web customers, not because of open-relays they run. When this happens, specifically with poorly maintained blackhole lists, it can be very difficult for the provider to get de-listed, even if they have a tight anti-spam AUP and have dealt with their customer accordingly. I've seen this happen personally.
I've seen one or two blackhole lists with absolutely no contact information. No way to get off of them. This is just pure irresponsibility, plain and simple.
Poorly maintained blackhole lists can be worse than no blackhole lists at all, so I would have to agree that their should be some sort of blackhole blacklist, if for no other reason than to alert SMTP admins that they may be inadvertantly blocking perfectly legit and professional hosting companies that don't run open-relays.
"'Feed' it enough to keep it from collapsing" ??
By definition, it has already infinitely collapsed. How can it "collapse" again?
Theoretically, it could "evaporate" (Hawking radiation), but for stellar (or larger) mass holes, the energy emitted via Hawking radiation is less than cosmic background radiation. Thus "evaporation" can't even begin for a long, long time. Long after all fusion in the universe has ceased.
Wouldn't emergent behavior typically be seen as malfunctioning, from an engineering perspective?
What do we do with computer systems that are malfunctioning? We attempt to stop the system from malfunctioning, often by interrupting it's normal operation/execution and modifying code so the behavior is logically what we expect.
You know, I couldn't agree with you more.
There's a realism issue here too as well. There is just NO WAY to provide your kids with uncensored Internet access and not have them see pr0n. It's just not realistic. When I was 11, I was sneaking peeks at Penthouse and the like (and girls were too!), so I think the we should just collectively (speaking for the US mainly, Europe doesn't seem nearly as prudish) just Get Over It.
Sex exists (in fact, it's pretty damn cool). Kids want to know about it. Let them.
I've used S-Lang considerably in the past on projects which needed a TUI. It was intuitive and had a very slight learning curve.
Check out http://www.s-lang.org/
While the distributed concept of this approaches something that might be called cool, there is already a remote tool installed at many NAPs which provides similar functionality in terms of reverse traceroutes and considerably more (BGP, etc). It's called looking glass, it's open source (perl) and doesn't carry around the broken subscriber model that this traceloop crap has.
Check out http://nitrous.digex.net for more info. An invaluable tool for routing engineers.
Man, this could get me back from Debian. Slackware was my first distro, and you never forget your first...
Right. My first was slackware as well. I'll never forget the pain of not having real package management. I'll never forget how happy I was when I dumped it for RedHat (this was years ago, before RedHat became RootHat).
My progression, in about two years, went from:
Slack -> RedHat -> Debian Goodness (still here!)
Debian is like crack.
My company does business with Cyber Entertainment.
Specifically, we provide them with a fair number of email boxes.
While I certainly cannot attest for their practices with regard to AOL, I have noticed that they appear to follow their AUP closely; at least when it comes to us.
In every instance where a large number of complaints have come our way (generally because someone found one of the email boxes, discovered who the ISP was, and started hammering our abuse department), Cyber Entertainment has handled the issue quickly and professionaly, instantly terminating (or at least we never heard another word about it) their relationship with the offending spammer. In fact, we've seen numerous misplaced emails from former "webmaster affiliates" who are VERY upset that CE refuses to do further business from them.
Logically, I think CE views the whole thing (until now) as quite a scam.
Think about it: They get to have other individuals/companies spam for them, but once the spam is reported, CE can sever the relationship, not have to pay the spammer a dime, yet still reap the benefits of spam.
We register domains via OpenSRS (which is great BTW).
We have had numerous incidents of Verio calling newly registered domain owners one or two days after registration offering web hosting and authoring services, much to our dismay as we are already performing these services for the customer. Verio's response to this was that they were perfectly in their rights to do such, as all that the accredidation restrictions do is prevent email spam, NOT direct telephone solicitiation. Bah!
We contacted register.com at one point, and learned that they had already filed suit against Verio for exactly this. On December 8th, 2000, an injuction was granted against Verio prohibiting this behavior.
I do not know the current status of the suit beyond this.
is one of the BBC style radio play serials of LoTR.
/. crowd has to be familiar with some famous radio serials, such as Star Wars, Kenneth Graham's The Wind in the Willows or (most famously) The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
I'm sure the
There's something magical about radio plays that film or video will never capture. I can't imagine a subject more fitting than LoTR.
Here in BellSouth territory, it's common knowledge that Bell does everything in their power to derail competition.
For example, they have managed to get a stranglehold on DSL. How did they do this? Despite the fact that competitive providers have DSLAMs at the COs, Bell still has to go out and handle any "last-mile" issues. When they are required to do this for their DSL competition, it's all too common for them to be too short staffed to handle the job. Delay after delay after delay sets in. Four to six weeks pass, and the end customer STILL doesn't have DSL.
Oddly enough, should the customer get fed up and elect to choose BellSouth's "Fast Access" DSL service, a technician is somehow immediately available and dispatched. We've even had reports of Bell techs, dispatched by Covad/Netrail, telling customers that "there is a problem with your line, it's going to take a few weeks to fix. However, if you want BellSouth DSL, there are other things we can do to get it working immediately." Of course, this is NOT Bell's official policy, and they'll deny it to the ends of the earth if you call them on it.
The whole thing is a joke. The baby bells will do anything in their power to hang on to their monopolies, including breaking the law.
I couldn't disagree more.
Those of use that are clued are very skilled at technical diagnosis. By the time we pick up that phone, we have already invested copious amounts of time in research. We know problem solving skills and by the time we're on the phone, we already have a good idea where the problem is. We don't need someone to walk us through cablage and TCP/IP; we need a like-minded clued individual who can confirm our logic and replace faulty hardware/fix telco issues/etc.
How exactly does one insert comments into the registry (ala an apache/bind/whatever config)?
That's the problem, though. We need to do this and we need to do that, but, when it comes right down to it, how many of us actually get off our fucking asses and do anything? How many people who constantly whine and bitch as their freedoms are slowly usurped from them also support the EFF through donations? How many write (not email, WRITE) their congressman every time a boneheaded bill is introduced? Judging by the outcome of trials and the passage of various and sundry laws in the past few years, I'm willing to bet the number is pretty damned low.
Even worse are the people that whine and bitch about whining and bitching, but never do anything about it.
So, the definition of a monopoly is:
"A company that cuts back on production and raises prices."
Certainly one I've never heard before.
Everyone knows that a CD sounds distinguishably better than an MP3 encoded from it (though usually not by much if the MP3 is 128-bit encoded).
Right. 128kb-encoded mp3s sound like garbage. I'm amazed that people find them acceptable. The highs are SO washed out and so much clarity is lost, it's almost painful to listen to 'em.
I have a four tooth bridge composed of titanium underneath a ceramic coating (which is dyed to look like natural teeth). It's very aesthetically pleasing; quite impossible for the casual observer to notice the difference between it and real teeth. It was also quite expensive ($3500).
Nobody likes to lose their natural teeth; my sole consolation was that I could "officially" state that I had a piece of titantium "in" my body (the bridge is permanently cemented to two natural teeth which have been filed down). Hell, it's almost bionic; they'll far outlast real teeth. If I'm ever involved in a major air/auto accident at least they'll be able to "identify him by his bridgework."
Now that titantium stands the chance of becoming common place, I'll be just another geek with titanium implants.
After mulling your suggestion over for a bit, I think you're probably more right than wrong. There are 3 meanings I considered: civil as in civilized, civil as opposed to criminal, and civil as in civilian. The last is probably the closest. But I hope I don't sound weasely pointing out that your "violent or armed" criteria would cover civilian murder :) Also, the 'disobediance' part probably does rule out all sorts of felonies. It's more akin to refusing to things than to rioting or other criminal enterprises.
The "Civil" in "Civil Disobediance" is short for `civilized'; and I take it to mean behavior which is not strongly objectionable in a civilized society. Murder and other forms of violence are actions that I (and most others in our society) feel are objectionable and uncivilized.
The whole `disobediance' bit resonates of one intentionally, and publically, violating the very law(s) [in either the legal sense or the societal] that one objects to. For example, a black person refusing to take their "proper place" at the rear of the bus is an act of civil disobediance. It's the way that objectionable rules get changed in a civilized society.
To that end, those who feel strongly that portions of current copyright law are particularly unappropriate for modern society might do well to closely examine "civil disobediance" and it's proper use; with special focus on both its public and sacrificial natures. During acts of civil disobediance it is often necessary to willfully commit illegal acts and suffer the (hopefully unfair) consequences in order to send the proper message to the public.
Such acts, if commited noblely, are often oft considered by historians to be great works of courage and vision.
BTW : Your argument sounds like the foolish arguments back in the early days of linux when all hardware support was compiled in via make flags : That was a BENEFIT because it gave a super ultra customized kernel that was super duper optimized! Of course now Linux operates almost entirely like NT/2000 with loaded devices, as it should so the song has changed : Loadable modules rule! Apache is moving to a thread architecture (2.0?) versus spawning a separate process because it is ABSURD to spawn a process for every single user, and when that happens the same people who are now carrying on about the super stability of Apache will be talking about it's superior multithreading architecture.
Actually, it's only absurd when you have extremely heavy-weight processes like NT/2000 does. Keep in mind that unix processes are actually light-weight (in comparison to NT); much more akin to what you think of as "threads" under NT in terms of performance.
In that light, Apache's operation as a pre-forking server is actually quite robust. Most NT admins don't understand this because they have been brainwashed by Redmond into thinking "processes bad, threads good."
I have, in the real world, run a production web server handling 3+ mil hits a day.
.. and I wouldn't even think about it with IIS unless you have ZERO dyanmic content.
The server was a PIII 350, 512M ram, 20 gig IBM LVD drive. Kernel 2.0.36 (this was a while ago), Apache 1.3.x. The Apache was home-rolled with only the static modules we needed compiled in. We tweaked Apache a bit to allow > 256 childern. We also tweaked the kernel to allow more open files and other standard performance related tuning.
About 10-15% of our content was dynamic (perl), the rest static HTML and images.
The result: 0.50 to 1.00 load avg
Response time was also excellent. We had about 300 apache slots used at a given time, peaking at 400. I give that a definite thumbs up
I'm tired of the good guy/bad guy thing. The world isn't polarized so perfectly. Unfortunately we don't have the makings of a perfect movie here with the ideal victims and the examplary villain.
/.'s (I suspect), disagree with you. This is an ideological battle.
This really isn't a great ideological battle like the Scopes Monkey Trial. The core issue at hand is can a service be held liable if that service is used for illegal activity?
Myself, and many other
It's an ideological battle over the freedom of information. Nobody's claiming that giving a copy of a copyrighted work to someone other than situations covered by fair use or licencing isn't a violation of copyright. What we're saying is that the there is something fundamentally skewed with the concept of intellectual property (at least in certain cases); and thus copyright law. As you pointed out yourself, theft is not the issue here, yet it is so often held as the very basis behind IP law.
Ideological battle? Yes, very much so.
I'm a PADI certified scuba diver. The claim that beathing "plain old air at 300 feet, and you will die" is so much bullshit. Plain and simple, no other name for such rank misinformation.
Of course, if you want to go down to 300 feet "breathing plain old air" you're going to have to have enough air in your tank to do the necessary decompression along the way to the surface.
I would not use air though for 300 feet, I'd go with a Nitrox mix in my tank.
I strongly suggest you take a refresher course. You are a danger to fellow divers. It's also painfully obvious that you don't know the first thing about Nitrox. One of the main tenents of technical diving is that O2 is TOXIC under elevated partial pressures. Diving on EAN32 (32% oxygen Nitrox, a common mix) would most definitely be lethal at 300 ft.
Here's the math, we'll consider a PPO2 of 2.0 (200%) to be toxic, which is rather liberal considering that divers typically regard 1.4/1.5 to be the limit.
300 ft is 10 atmospheres (300 / 33 + 1)
32% O2 at sea level is 0.32 PPO2, at 10 atmospheres, that's 3.2 PPO2 (320%!).
Even air (21% O2) is potentially lethal at 300 ft.
21% O2 = 0.21 PPO2 * 10 AtA = 2.1 PPO2 (210%!)
Instant Seizure in a bottle...
I download mp3s and decode them and burn them to cds to listen to in my car, and the quality is close enough to CD that most peolpe cant tell the difference between it and a store-bought CD.
Also, I use a direct link from my home stereo to my computer to play mp3s with, and again, the quality is great.
Then you must have fairly crappy home audio equipment. Anyone with even modest gear can easily hear a tremendous difference between the decoder in a cd/receiver stereo component and a consumer-level PC soundcard.
Performance/Dollar of Gimp : Infinite.
Performance/Dollar of Photoshop: Some number greater then 0
Let's try that again, shall we?
Performance/Dollar of Gimp : Undefined.
Performance/Dollar of Photoshop: Some number greater than 0
Not everyone uses linux for political or spiritual reasons.
Does anyone use linux for spiritual reasons? Whoa...