Yes, Mexico is a great place to buy as many shirts as you want where the decals will come off after the first wash. You can find some very nice Folex watches down there as well.
Why in the world would I want to share cycles with apps from other developers on a task oriented portable device?
Indeed! It doesn't work for you, therefore it works for no one. I'm glad that Apple made this choice for users so that no one would have to make it for themselves.
People have other things to do with their time besides going back and trying things they disliked in the past to see if they're better now.
I understand that, like I posted above I had the same experience with Linux, one bad experience turned me off of the whole thing for a long time. Linux has always had a stigma for being difficult to use or configure, even though recently people have made an effort to improve things. But like you said, the recent efforts don't matter if you've already pissed someone off in the past.
People will naturally expend only so much effort keeping up with marginal web browsers, and first impressions can stick with you for a while.
Indeed they can, my first experience installing Linux, I guess about 7 or 8 years ago, ended in total disaster, and it completely put me off the entire platform until very recently. Seeing how usable it actually is though, sort of makes me wish I had given it another shot sooner, you know? You never know what you're missing.
and his point is that he, like me, hasn't had a problem with Real Player crashing my machine in years.
Because I won't install Real Player on my machine after past issues.
Comparing Opera and Real Player is a bit disingenuous. Real Player has always been POS software, Opera has always been a quality browser. It just used to be a quality browser that had ads in it, now it's a quality browser without ads in it.
Real was never high-quality software, Opera has been.
The OP does not owe Opera the opportunity to be installed on his machine when such quality choices exist.
Fair enough, but one could say the same about Firefox, Chrome, and Safari.
Right, my point is that 18-25 year olds using their Wii or Nokia phone have probably never even heard that Opera was ad-supported. Kids in high school now who sort of "came online" as Firefox was gaining popularity may hear about Opera at some point online (such as.. here) and would be hearing about what it's doing now, not what it was doing in 2005. The only mentions of Opera using ads, like here, also point out how it hasn't been doing that for 5 years.
The old guys? Even though I would expect most of us to know that Opera doesn't use ads, I can expect there to be a group of people who probably hate them for ever advertising in the first place. I don't think that's a very large group, though. There are other, more worthy corporations to focus our hate on now, such as Sony and Apple.
I wonder how much money they ever made from ads, and if they regret it, given that 5 years on they're still trying to lose the bad aroma it produced?
Given that Opera has not had ads for nearly 5 years, it would probably be fair to say that many Opera users today have never used a version that did have ads. In fact, Opera has been ad-free for long enough that I'm genuinely surprised when I see someone (like the OP) who still thinks it's ad-supported. I would think that anyone who would have been using Opera 5 years ago would at least be up to date enough to know that it doesn't have ads anymore. But, apparently, I would be wrong, as the OP appears to be one of those people. Sort of makes me wonder if the browser he's using is branded "Phoenix" or "Firebird".
National enemies like Iran [topnews.us] and China, [eff.org] right?
Exactly right, I'm sure the US would have appreciated if Finnish Nokia and German Siemens had not sold communications equipment to Iran. In this case, in specifically allowing communications software to go to those countries, it sounds like the US is trying to restore the people's communication capabilities which were taken away by the technology from Nokia and Siemens. More specifically, it sounds like the government is trying to give the people of those countries another way to undermine their own governments.
Do you think that's strange, or that every other country doesn't have similar laws? If you have a company who manufactures things like weapons, aeronautics, or communications equipment do you want them selling that to national enemies?
Nice, you've discovered the best way to make a link unclickable in Slashdot. I can't even highlight and select "Go To URL", because it's already a link (to your comment, which doesn't have any content).
You're right. But, when they have a history of several lawsuits that follow a common theme, then you can definitely start to judge them. Apple has been in the headlines several times recently for patent attacks, so it would be naive to assume they're going to do anything different this time.
Everybody in the industry has been involved in one of these suits at some point or another.
Yeah, well, if I see an unconscious person lying on the ground and everyone who walks by rifles through their pockets to see what they have, that doesn't mean I'm going to do the same thing. I might try to help the situation instead of steal from them, even though that's what everyone else is doing.
Not true. I actually know what the announcement is going to be, and it's going to make a lot of people who visit sites like Slashdot happy (or surprised).
Here's a hint: it's about supporting a standard that no one thought Microsoft would support.
How come addons are a defense for Firefox eating a lot of memory? Does anyone run Firefox with no addons? Everyone always uses addons as the reason why they love Firefox so much, so why shouldn't addons be included in benchmarks? Every benchmark of Firefox should include the 3 most popular addons installed and running. Currently, that looks like Adblock Plus, Video DownloadHelper, and Personas Plus.
Real-world usage of Firefox includes addons, so should benchmarks. A benchmark of Firefox with no addons is useless data for anyone who actually does use them.
Atari, Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox, and Sega were not actively courting and promoting their developer communities, and all software for those platforms was of a single category: games. Unless you consider the iPhone a gaming console, which it's not, it's not a very good comparison. The iPhone developer ecosystem and the Playstation developer ecosystem are entirely different. Both of them have total control, sure, but Sony isn't trying to get a bunch of independent developers to write software for their platform. Publishers who already have hefty bank accounts approach Sony, Sony doesn't need independent developers. Apple does.
Oh no, scalpers definitely help people. They help themselves, and they help the wealthy. They don't help me though, and they don't help most other people either.
Frankly, they seem like the same type of social parasites who try to make money without contributing anything useful to society.
Generally, they can count on the developers sucking it up and coming back, or someone taking their place.
Agreed, but then again the iPhone ecosystem is a fairly new model for software. The total control that Apple demands hasn't really been tested before, most of the old-school Mac hackers are guys who really did have total control over their hardware and were able to tinker with whatever they wanted in the Mac. That's just not the case any more, so I'm interested to see how new developers who come into this model react to it. I'm willing to bet that there aren't going to be a lot of people learning to program on a Mac, the tinkerers are much more likely to go to Linux, it would seem.
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It could grip it by the husk!
Yes, Mexico is a great place to buy as many shirts as you want where the decals will come off after the first wash. You can find some very nice Folex watches down there as well.
Wow, you think? That's some fine detective work. Tell me, was it the lead "processor" or the solid plastic "fan" that gave it away?
It should be Steve's head with tubes going in and out, with a little red Apple logo over his eye shooting out a laser.
Right, because all of the iPhone developers are flush with cash, right?
Why in the world would I want to share cycles with apps from other developers on a task oriented portable device?
Indeed! It doesn't work for you, therefore it works for no one. I'm glad that Apple made this choice for users so that no one would have to make it for themselves.
Right. Linux: a sociopath OS for sociopath people.
People have other things to do with their time besides going back and trying things they disliked in the past to see if they're better now.
I understand that, like I posted above I had the same experience with Linux, one bad experience turned me off of the whole thing for a long time. Linux has always had a stigma for being difficult to use or configure, even though recently people have made an effort to improve things. But like you said, the recent efforts don't matter if you've already pissed someone off in the past.
People will naturally expend only so much effort keeping up with marginal web browsers, and first impressions can stick with you for a while.
Indeed they can, my first experience installing Linux, I guess about 7 or 8 years ago, ended in total disaster, and it completely put me off the entire platform until very recently. Seeing how usable it actually is though, sort of makes me wish I had given it another shot sooner, you know? You never know what you're missing.
and his point is that he, like me, hasn't had a problem with Real Player crashing my machine in years.
Because I won't install Real Player on my machine after past issues.
Comparing Opera and Real Player is a bit disingenuous. Real Player has always been POS software, Opera has always been a quality browser. It just used to be a quality browser that had ads in it, now it's a quality browser without ads in it.
Real was never high-quality software, Opera has been.
The OP does not owe Opera the opportunity to be installed on his machine when such quality choices exist.
Fair enough, but one could say the same about Firefox, Chrome, and Safari.
Right, my point is that 18-25 year olds using their Wii or Nokia phone have probably never even heard that Opera was ad-supported. Kids in high school now who sort of "came online" as Firefox was gaining popularity may hear about Opera at some point online (such as.. here) and would be hearing about what it's doing now, not what it was doing in 2005. The only mentions of Opera using ads, like here, also point out how it hasn't been doing that for 5 years.
The old guys? Even though I would expect most of us to know that Opera doesn't use ads, I can expect there to be a group of people who probably hate them for ever advertising in the first place. I don't think that's a very large group, though. There are other, more worthy corporations to focus our hate on now, such as Sony and Apple.
downloads of its browser in Belgium, France, Britain, Poland, and Spain had tripled
So now that makes six Opera users. And they'll all be crowing that this was all due to a complaint raised first by Opera!
I just want to point out that would be a minimum of 15 users, if each country started with 1 and went to 3.
Also, this was all because of Opera.
Posting from the US. 16, bitches!
I wonder how much money they ever made from ads, and if they regret it, given that 5 years on they're still trying to lose the bad aroma it produced?
Given that Opera has not had ads for nearly 5 years, it would probably be fair to say that many Opera users today have never used a version that did have ads. In fact, Opera has been ad-free for long enough that I'm genuinely surprised when I see someone (like the OP) who still thinks it's ad-supported. I would think that anyone who would have been using Opera 5 years ago would at least be up to date enough to know that it doesn't have ads anymore. But, apparently, I would be wrong, as the OP appears to be one of those people. Sort of makes me wonder if the browser he's using is branded "Phoenix" or "Firebird".
National enemies like Iran [topnews.us] and China, [eff.org] right?
Exactly right, I'm sure the US would have appreciated if Finnish Nokia and German Siemens had not sold communications equipment to Iran. In this case, in specifically allowing communications software to go to those countries, it sounds like the US is trying to restore the people's communication capabilities which were taken away by the technology from Nokia and Siemens. More specifically, it sounds like the government is trying to give the people of those countries another way to undermine their own governments.
You need a license to export ?
Do you think that's strange, or that every other country doesn't have similar laws? If you have a company who manufactures things like weapons, aeronautics, or communications equipment do you want them selling that to national enemies?
Nice, you've discovered the best way to make a link unclickable in Slashdot. I can't even highlight and select "Go To URL", because it's already a link (to your comment, which doesn't have any content).
http://www.digikey.com/
That said, you can't judge Apple on one lawsuit.
You're right. But, when they have a history of several lawsuits that follow a common theme, then you can definitely start to judge them. Apple has been in the headlines several times recently for patent attacks, so it would be naive to assume they're going to do anything different this time.
Everybody in the industry has been involved in one of these suits at some point or another.
Yeah, well, if I see an unconscious person lying on the ground and everyone who walks by rifles through their pockets to see what they have, that doesn't mean I'm going to do the same thing. I might try to help the situation instead of steal from them, even though that's what everyone else is doing.
That's correct, SVG support is required in order to pass Acid3.
I've already said too much. They're looking for me now, I can hear the helicopters.
Not true. I actually know what the announcement is going to be, and it's going to make a lot of people who visit sites like Slashdot happy (or surprised).
Here's a hint: it's about supporting a standard that no one thought Microsoft would support.
Maybe a new version as well..
How come addons are a defense for Firefox eating a lot of memory? Does anyone run Firefox with no addons? Everyone always uses addons as the reason why they love Firefox so much, so why shouldn't addons be included in benchmarks? Every benchmark of Firefox should include the 3 most popular addons installed and running. Currently, that looks like Adblock Plus, Video DownloadHelper, and Personas Plus.
Real-world usage of Firefox includes addons, so should benchmarks. A benchmark of Firefox with no addons is useless data for anyone who actually does use them.
Soooo Apple is more controlling because they allow apps that aren't games and independent developers.
Good lord.
No, that's not why they're more controlling. That's why iPhone is different. I.E. untested. Get it?
Apple could easily cut them off and just license to the big boys but they don't and you think they should be berated for that.
Thanks for trying to tell me what I think, but no, that's not what I think. That's not what I said either.
Good god, only 2 posts in and I'm already tired of trying to argue with you.
Atari, Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox, and Sega were not actively courting and promoting their developer communities, and all software for those platforms was of a single category: games. Unless you consider the iPhone a gaming console, which it's not, it's not a very good comparison. The iPhone developer ecosystem and the Playstation developer ecosystem are entirely different. Both of them have total control, sure, but Sony isn't trying to get a bunch of independent developers to write software for their platform. Publishers who already have hefty bank accounts approach Sony, Sony doesn't need independent developers. Apple does.
Oh no, scalpers definitely help people. They help themselves, and they help the wealthy. They don't help me though, and they don't help most other people either.
Frankly, they seem like the same type of social parasites who try to make money without contributing anything useful to society.
Generally, they can count on the developers sucking it up and coming back, or someone taking their place.
Agreed, but then again the iPhone ecosystem is a fairly new model for software. The total control that Apple demands hasn't really been tested before, most of the old-school Mac hackers are guys who really did have total control over their hardware and were able to tinker with whatever they wanted in the Mac. That's just not the case any more, so I'm interested to see how new developers who come into this model react to it. I'm willing to bet that there aren't going to be a lot of people learning to program on a Mac, the tinkerers are much more likely to go to Linux, it would seem.