related to but not exactly the same, since you still *could* know where the data was being processed and it mattered. Now you *can't* know where the data is being processed or stored and nobody cares, as long as it works. You can't 'grasp' a real life cloud any more than that you can grasp the hardware that your software now runs on. In fact you probably have no idea of the underlying hardware at all, it could be anything. In the case of that mainframe/supercomputer you probably had to jump through quite a few hoops to adapt your software to the actual hardware, now you program to some kind of VM model which may have nothing to do with the actual machine(s).
why mod this a troll ? He's quite right actually, there have been quite a few instances of virtualization and scaleable computing facilities in the last 20 years. Think transputers, thinking machines and some even older.
The only difference between then and now is the level of ease-of-deployment. Basically anybody can do it now, whereas in the past you'd have to have a pretty serious budget.
It's interesting that a fairly large number of these guys refer to the term itself as a buzz word.
I think cloud computing is less of a buzz word than most, but I really think that most of these definitions miss the biggest difference: With cloud computing you outsource *all* your hardware. So, any application where you are not physically talking about what software runs on which piece of hardware is cloud computing to me.
Personally I'm all for deep sixing one or two of their management just to set an example. And post it to youtube of course, that'll serve as an object lesson to anybody that thought they 'got away with it'.
technically, yes. All they need though is enough money to appeal, the payment will probably be stayed during the appeal. So, it isn't over yet by the looks of it. Rumours of SCO's demise have been greatly exaggerated to date, they won't be dead until they're staked through the corporate heart with a wooden stick or shot with some silver bullet. See your nearest vampire/zombie movie theater for more information about this procedure...
oh, they'll appeal for sure. FUD forever. The really nasty thing is that this ruling sends entirely the wrong message to other SCO-like scum out there. They should have been hung and quartered, instead they only got slapped around a couple of times. The players all made money (except for the parties sued of course).
correlation != causation. The fact that the surge has happened and that the violence has dropped does not imply the one caused the other.
It's likely that it has something to do with it, but it simply isn't proof, it may very well be that the same levels of violence would have been reached had the surge not happened.
And *if* the surge has worked, should that not be a reason to send even more troops ?
hehe, but I am:), most weather stations are 'sleeping' when they are not transmitting, they wake up periodically, sample windspeed, temp, humidity and a bunch of other stuff, prepare a packet and they then either send it off through wireless or they store it on some flash chip, then they go back to sleep.
One that needs a diesel generator would have some pretty significant stuff in there, especially since the diesel would be running 24x7 and would at a minimum idle around 100 watts or so.
makes me curious... next trip up north bring some tools and a camera and have a peek will you;) ?
man I really feel let down by that. I really thought Steve personally and completely by himself assembled each and every of those iPods and iMacs that leave the apple premises. This is such a bummer, how does that square with him 'single-handedly turning apple around' ?
it doesn't apply the way the summary says it
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When you're the CEO of a multi-billion dollar company you get a lot of leeway when it comes to your attitude, especially if you are a successful CEO. If you think of emulating Jobs' character traits in your day job then maybe you should create some startup company instead.
Indeed, I haven't lived/worked in the high arctic, but the original poster mentioned 'remote locations in Northern Canada', which is not the same as the 'high arctic', and since I've actually lived in such a location for three years in a solar and wind powered home I think I have some relevant knowledge. In fact, in the Canadian winter when it's clear solar panels will have amazing output because they are kept nicely cool by the surrounding air:)
The simple fact that they use satellite there right now according to the OP, indicates they are not in the high arctic or even near it, because there are no satellites in line-of-sight doing telco in the high arctic as far as I know, *maybe* inmarsat has some coverage there (it will cost you dearly though, but if you need them they are almost always the only player), but certainly not at the rates the OP quoted.
Yes, but those are the ones running significant hardware, the smaller data collection and transmission ones are almost all of them powered by renewables, simply because pulling power lines to them is not an option (cost) and the power requirements are modest.
The ones you are referring to are (I believe) 'manned' stations, the ones I meant are simply remote telemetry units. I'm talking about a less than 1 cubic foot box, you're talking about something along the lines of a base camp...
solar panel, battery and a small wind genny should do just fine. That's how most weather stations 'up north' are being powered and it would work quite well for a small low power router. There is a Canadian company in the rockies that makes really nice hardware for just that purpose, check out valemount networks http://www.staros.com/
the George Carlin version fits on a much smaller space. Probably a good instance of data compression by removing redundancies (is there any other kind ?).
very true, but on large numbers like./'s audience it works quite well. You'll be off by a few %age points at the most.
After all, for those that work from the US but appear through a VPN gateway to be working in Europe there will also be a number of people in the opposite situation.
US-centric to me indicates something of a substantial (say > 50%) of the audience from the US and I think that./ would fit that handsomely.
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My kid read this and is happy he's *my* kid and not yours. You probably score pretty good on the 'protect my kids' scale, but you don't respect them.
related to but not exactly the same, since you still *could* know where the data was being processed and it mattered. Now you *can't* know where the data is being processed or stored and nobody cares, as long as it works. You can't 'grasp' a real life cloud any more than that you can grasp the hardware that your software now runs on. In fact you probably have no idea of the underlying hardware at all, it could be anything. In the case of that mainframe/supercomputer you probably had to jump through quite a few hoops to adapt your software to the actual hardware, now you program to some kind of VM model which may have nothing to do with the actual machine(s).
why mod this a troll ? He's quite right actually, there have been quite a few instances of virtualization and scaleable computing facilities in the last 20 years. Think transputers, thinking machines and some even older.
The only difference between then and now is the level of ease-of-deployment. Basically anybody can do it now, whereas in the past you'd have to have a pretty serious budget.
It's interesting that a fairly large number of these guys refer to the term itself as a buzz word.
I think cloud computing is less of a buzz word than most, but I really think that most of these definitions miss the biggest difference: With cloud computing you outsource *all* your hardware. So, any application where you are not physically talking about what software runs on which piece of hardware is cloud computing to me.
Personally I'm all for deep sixing one or two of their management just to set an example. And post it to youtube of course, that'll serve as an object lesson to anybody that thought they 'got away with it'.
Poor sharks though...
hehe, that'd be even odds (pun definitely not intended ;) )...
right, as if 'johnsmith@gmail.com' isn't going to reach *somebody*. And no, he didn't give it to me.
What a load of crock. Spammers don't care about the exact person they reach, as long as the message gets read by a live body they're happy as can be.
So, consider every combination of firstnamelastname , initiallastname, firstnamefirstletteroflastname to be spammed to the hilt.
Good call, I'll leave the ambiguity unresolved, since it is of no significance whatsoever and therefore can safely be made an issue of suspense.
apologies to Douglas Adams :)
technically, yes. All they need though is enough money to appeal, the payment will probably be stayed during the appeal. So, it isn't over yet by the looks of it. Rumours of SCO's demise have been greatly exaggerated to date, they won't be dead until they're staked through the corporate heart with a wooden stick or shot with some silver bullet. See your nearest vampire/zombie movie theater for more information about this procedure...
oh, they'll appeal for sure. FUD forever. The really nasty thing is that this ruling sends entirely the wrong message to other SCO-like scum out there. They should have been hung and quartered, instead they only got slapped around a couple of times. The players all made money (except for the parties sued of course).
that they can't pay in SCO stock :) (or whatever moniker they go by now, pink slips or something to that effect).
mine goes to thirteen...
correlation != causation. The fact that the surge has happened and that the violence has dropped does not imply the one caused the other.
It's likely that it has something to do with it, but it simply isn't proof, it may very well be that the same levels of violence would have been reached had the surge not happened.
And *if* the surge has worked, should that not be a reason to send even more troops ?
hehe, but I am :), most weather stations are 'sleeping' when they are not transmitting, they wake up periodically, sample windspeed, temp, humidity and a bunch of other stuff, prepare a packet and they then either send it off through wireless or they store it on some flash chip, then they go back to sleep.
One that needs a diesel generator would have some pretty significant stuff in there, especially since the diesel would be running 24x7 and would at a minimum idle around 100 watts or so.
makes me curious... next trip up north bring some tools and a camera and have a peek will you ;) ?
man I really feel let down by that. I really thought Steve personally and completely by himself assembled each and every of those iPods and iMacs that leave the apple premises. This is such a bummer, how does that square with him 'single-handedly turning apple around' ?
When you're the CEO of a multi-billion dollar company you get a lot of leeway when it comes to your attitude, especially if you are a successful CEO. If you think of emulating Jobs' character traits in your day job then maybe you should create some startup company instead.
Indeed, I haven't lived/worked in the high arctic, but the original poster mentioned 'remote locations in Northern Canada', which is not the same as the 'high arctic', and since I've actually lived in such a location for three years in a solar and wind powered home I think I have some relevant knowledge. In fact, in the Canadian winter when it's clear solar panels will have amazing output because they are kept nicely cool by the surrounding air :)
The simple fact that they use satellite there right now according to the OP, indicates they are not in the high arctic or even near it, because there are no satellites in line-of-sight doing telco in the high arctic as far as I know, *maybe* inmarsat has some coverage there (it will cost you dearly though, but if you need them they are almost always the only player), but certainly not at the rates the OP quoted.
hehe, no, but that easily qualifies as a candidate for a cell phone tower. Rural Canada to me is say halfway between Sault Ste. Marie and Wawa :)
neat, do you have any idea what kind of hardware is in there ?
Yes, but those are the ones running significant hardware, the smaller data collection and transmission ones are almost all of them powered by renewables, simply because pulling power lines to them is not an option (cost) and the power requirements are modest.
The ones you are referring to are (I believe) 'manned' stations, the ones I meant are simply remote telemetry units. I'm talking about a less than 1 cubic foot box, you're talking about something along the lines of a base camp...
rural != town... pretty much by definition
cell phone coverage in rural Canada is a joke.
In fact, telecommunications outside the few large cities that Canada has is limited to the most basic of service levels.
solar panel, battery and a small wind genny should do just fine. That's how most weather stations 'up north' are being powered and it would work quite well for a small low power router. There is a Canadian company in the rockies that makes really nice hardware for just that purpose, check out valemount networks http://www.staros.com/
here is another example.
http://www.ecofriend.org/entry/solar-powered-wireless-router-to-bring-internet-access-to-remote-areas/
the George Carlin version fits on a much smaller space. Probably a good instance of data compression by removing redundancies (is there any other kind ?).
very true, but on large numbers like ./'s audience it works quite well. You'll be off by a few %age points at the most.
After all, for those that work from the US but appear through a VPN gateway to be working in Europe there will also be a number of people in the opposite situation.
US-centric to me indicates something of a substantial (say > 50%) of the audience from the US and I think that ./ would fit that handsomely.