This is *not* going to happen. For one the wall between OS space and user space is there for a good reason (security) and second different people like to use different languages, and you'll lose a good part of your developers by forcing them into the straightjacket of a single language for a certain os.
it's been tried before (smalltalk, java) and failed, for these and a whole bunch of other reasons.
I don't really want to join the whiner crowd, but I'm getting a little less enthousiastic about participating in/.. All my submissions have been rejected so far and this crap here makes it. Poop indeed.
They actually pulled out of europe in a way that was less than nice, leaving thousands of customers goods in the warehouses, rent unpaid, warranty goods unreturned and future warranties not to be effective.
It was quite a stink and a good many people were really really angry and a few even went to Nanine (Belgium headquarters of the shack or 'tandy') to try to get even only to find out that they had literally disappeared overnight and sold all their goods in europe (including customer equipment!) to dump traders.
Don't take my word for it, look it up, friday night they were open for business and on saturday morning they were gone with the wind.
The adress is not available to you but there is something as an AVS check (adress verifiction system, not AGE verification system as it is used by some 'less reputable' sites), where you supply the address info and the processor then gives you a go/no-go on the address. So you can't access it but if it is given to you then you can use it to verify the persons identity.
I am impressed with the amount of press coverage and hype that has been surrounding XML and related technologies for the longest time now, but where is this stuff REALLY used ?
Does anybody have an example of high volume (so mainstream) websites using XML ? whereever I look all I see is good old HTML, a div or two (mostly tables still though) and Javascript stuff.
So, I think we can now safely conclude that the RIAA has an operation mounted inside the NAVY, how else do they know which computers to point out (I assume the NAVY has a little firewall, or are academy systems directly connected ?)
just an idea, I know that we have the moderation system and all that but how about a simple text based filter that we can apply from our preferences to filter out trolls.
I still browse at -1 because every now and then I find something worth reading that has been modded to pieces because moderation failed.
well, it wasn't always documented by the original authors:) but documented it sure was.
Windows is just much too big to reverse assemble in its entirety and the fact that dos was written in assembler helped a lot in puzzling out what it was supposed to do, reverse assembling compiled code is a real pain (though you can learn a lot from looking at the stack frame).
Anyway, dos was pretty good in its days (at least every system call was documented, a fine tradition that windows seems to want no part of) and it is still used wherever PC's and total reliability are a requirement.
that's true, besides gaming, key cracking, et's (seti) and protein folding a typical household PC is totally overkill for what it is used for day to day, and all but gaming are expendable to the owner of the system.
I still have a p100 laptop that sees good use and for the longest time one of our office machines was a p225 running '98 that just wouldn't die.
Think about it, what you have on your desk is more than what most IT departments had to keep 5000 people happy (big bank mainframe) in terms of raw processing power and memory (IO bandwidth is a different matter).
You should look at this like the demise of Hispano-Suiza, they were fine cars in their time but when they passed it was not quite the end of personal mobility.
And Napster won't be the last peer to peer technique that goes under, but one of these days we'll cobble something together that is *really* beyond shutdown. The only major problem so far seems to be that for the creator of that piece of software there will be no income to be made (he/she can't control access to it either).
Maybe freenet will be the one, maybe not.
But that is just one aspect of the technological war, the other one is that even a perfect peer to peer protocol / search engine is still vulnerable to all kinds of attacks by those with enough money (such as RIAA) or those with enough time on their hands (like the sicko's that try to destroy IRC) and that will probably be the next frontier, to maintain data integrity, and to be able to search and destroy bogus clients and their malicious payloads without centralised control.
there is a thing called hand assembly, it's been a while, but in the 6502 days if you couldn't afford an assembler you coded your stuff from the opcode book (KIM 1 comes to mind). It's pretty hard and one mistake and you wipe out your whole program so you'll have to key it in all over again. Especially branch computation sucks.
one more addendum to that, if you can get your hands on a bbc micro emulator (or the real thing if they are still around) and get the BCPL rom, that's as close as you'll get to running 'B'.
I thought that traditionally you run your compiler on some other box that already has a 'c' compiler (and compile your libraries there too), then link and pop over the binary and off you go.
The first c compilers were written on a pdp-11 by K&R in a language called 'B', hence it's called 'C'
SGI went under (and for those disputing that fact check their market share) because of management failure upon failure.
The 02 was a pos when it came out, more warranty failures than you can count (I know, I own one), then they drop their own pretty good line and start making PC's running NT, not the best market to get your users to switch to if you have been bashing that same platform for years and care about your bottom line.
Add to that the little cherry of buying out an ailing supercomputer manufacturer (cray) and the picture is complete.
Too bad, I have owned a couple of indy's and IRIX is still one of the best os's I have ever worked with (QNX excepted)
There is a book by Ira Levin called 'this perfect day', it has a nice little bit in it where rebellious people are given a fake rebellion to reduce the chance of them actually pulling off a real one.
Slashdot is a little like that, imagine if all these people venting their frustration at the big bad MS would take it out on them instead of having this convenient safety valve right here.
Well, as they say use the source Luke, those bots are pretty dumb under the hood and do not have enough complexity to come up with more than a few minutes of conversation when talking to a human.
What do you expect when you let them talk to each other ?
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For one the wall between OS space and user space is there for a good reason (security) and second different people like to use different languages, and you'll lose a good part of your developers by forcing them into the straightjacket of a single language for a certain os.
it's been tried before (smalltalk, java) and failed, for these and a whole bunch of other reasons.
I don't really want to join the whiner crowd, but I'm getting a little less enthousiastic about participating in /.. All my submissions have been rejected so far and this crap here makes it. Poop indeed.
They actually pulled out of europe in a way that was less than nice, leaving thousands of customers goods in the warehouses, rent unpaid, warranty goods unreturned and future warranties not to be effective.
It was quite a stink and a good many people were really really angry and a few even went to Nanine (Belgium headquarters of the shack or 'tandy') to try to get even only to find out that they had literally disappeared overnight and sold all their goods in europe (including customer equipment!) to dump traders.
Don't take my word for it, look it up, friday night they were open for business and on saturday morning they were gone with the wind.
The adress is not available to you but there is something as an AVS check (adress verifiction system, not AGE verification system as it is used by some 'less reputable' sites), where you supply the address info and the processor then gives you a go/no-go on the address. So you can't access it but if it is given to you then you can use it to verify the persons identity.
:)
small entrepeneur ? yeah, I probably qualify
I am impressed with the amount of press coverage and hype that has been surrounding XML and related technologies for the longest time now, but where is this stuff REALLY used ?
Does anybody have an example of high volume (so mainstream) websites using XML ? whereever I look all I see is good old HTML, a div or two (mostly tables still though) and Javascript stuff.
So, I think we can now safely conclude that the RIAA has an operation mounted inside the NAVY, how else do they know which computers to point out (I assume the NAVY has a little firewall, or are academy systems directly connected ?)
just an idea, I know that we have the moderation system and all that but how about a simple text based filter that we can apply from our preferences to filter out trolls.
I still browse at -1 because every now and then I find something worth reading that has been modded to pieces because moderation failed.
hehe touche !
:) but documented it sure was.
well, it wasn't always documented by the original authors
Windows is just much too big to reverse assemble in its entirety and the fact that dos was written in assembler helped a lot in puzzling out what it was supposed to do, reverse assembling compiled code is a real pain (though you can learn a lot from looking at the stack frame).
These first posters make me puke :)
Anyway, dos was pretty good in its days (at least every system call was documented, a fine tradition that windows seems to want no part of) and it is still used wherever PC's and total reliability are a requirement.
that's true, besides gaming, key cracking, et's (seti) and protein folding a typical household PC is totally overkill for what it is used for day to day, and all but gaming are expendable to the owner of the system.
I still have a p100 laptop that sees good use and for the longest time one of our office machines was a p225 running '98 that just wouldn't die.
Think about it, what you have on your desk is more than what most IT departments had to keep 5000 people happy (big bank mainframe) in terms of raw processing power and memory (IO bandwidth is a different matter).
someone has *waaay* too much time on their hands...
you also missed a career or two, maybe you should apply with one of those phone sex thingies ? that would save *all* of us a lot of trouble.
You should look at this like the demise of Hispano-Suiza, they were fine cars in their time but when they passed it was not quite the end of personal mobility.
And Napster won't be the last peer to peer technique that goes under, but one of these days we'll cobble something together that is *really* beyond shutdown. The only major problem so far seems to be that for the creator of that piece of software there will be no income to be made (he/she can't control access to it either).
Maybe freenet will be the one, maybe not.
But that is just one aspect of the technological war, the other one is that even a perfect peer to peer protocol / search engine is still vulnerable to all kinds of attacks by those with enough money (such as RIAA) or those with enough time on their hands (like the sicko's that try to destroy IRC) and that will probably be the next frontier,
to maintain data integrity, and to be able to search and destroy bogus clients and their malicious payloads without centralised control.
there is a thing called hand assembly, it's been a while, but in the 6502 days if you couldn't afford an assembler you coded your stuff from the opcode book (KIM 1 comes to mind). It's pretty hard and one mistake and you wipe out your whole program so you'll have to key it in all over again. Especially branch computation sucks.
:)
Lucky you if you have the tape interface
one more addendum to that, if you can get your hands on a bbc micro emulator (or the real thing if they are still around) and get the BCPL rom, that's as close as you'll get to running 'B'.
I thought that traditionally you run your compiler on some other box that already has a 'c' compiler (and compile your libraries there too), then link and pop over the binary and off you go.
The first c compilers were written on a pdp-11 by K&R in a language called 'B', hence it's called 'C'
SGI went under (and for those disputing that fact check their market share) because of management failure upon failure.
The 02 was a pos when it came out, more warranty failures than you can count (I know, I own one), then they drop their own pretty good line and start making PC's running NT, not the best market to get your users to switch to if you have been bashing that same platform for years and care about your bottom line.
Add to that the little cherry of buying out an ailing supercomputer manufacturer (cray) and the picture is complete.
Too bad, I have owned a couple of indy's and IRIX is still one of the best os's I have ever worked with (QNX excepted)
real programmers write their first compiler in assembly of course...
mod parent way up please !
it's exactly the fact that ms is advertising on /. that prompted me to make the comment in the first place.
I find it highly suspicious that they openly back a site that is supposedly one of their few outspoken critics.
My feeling is that they fuel slashdot to keep it a point of focus for otherwise potentially really harmful individuals.
Imagine the damage if all those folks would really vent their frustration using whatever talents they have instead of flaming off here.
There is a book by Ira Levin called 'this perfect day', it has a nice little bit in it where rebellious people are given a fake rebellion to reduce the chance of them actually pulling off a real one.
Slashdot is a little like that, imagine if all these people venting their frustration at the big bad MS would take it out on them instead of having this convenient safety valve right here.
Terra Lycos & Tiscali too are always talking to everybody... talk is cheap however.
bzzzzt... stirling engines can run on solar power, thermal differences (geothermal) and so on...
Well, as they say use the source Luke, those bots are pretty dumb under the hood and do not have enough complexity to come up with more than a few minutes of conversation when talking to a human.
What do you expect when you let them talk to each other ?
Let's talk about your problem, shall we ?
Spam from asia is last on my list of annoying stuff, it's the 'viagra/mortgage/whatever' stuff from the good old US of A that is bothering me
www.clustercompute.com
well, on a per mips basis maybe, but then again I could use faster cpu's today.