Well a Pentium Pro (P6) is faster (even at the same MHZ) than a Pentium MMX (P5), even though it has no MMX while the later Pentiums did.
People seem to forget the G5 is a generation ahead of the G4 (I assume that's what the 'G' means). Just like hypothetically a Athlon without 3D-Now would still be faster than a K6 with 3D-Now, even at the same clock speed.
that space above the DVD drive is not a drive bay, even though it may appear to look like one when you open the case. As there's no corresponding hole at the front, so the olny thing that can be put there is a hard drive.
IMHO unless a case has at least four 5.25" drive bays (like the Enlight 7237) its just not a case. Afterall a high end system cannot justify that claim unless there's room for a DVD drive, a CD burner & 2 of those removable 'pullout' Hard drive caddies (one for the system drive & another one for the data drive). Plus it should have two 3.5 " bays too - one for the LS120MB superfloppy drive & one for a rainy day(Hopefully a 2.2GB Orb drive....one day:) ) Now if a G4 can't do that how can it claim to be high end.
Whiles PCs' dont.
I bet you if I bought a second hand Amiga A4000 full tower Video Toaster with all the zorro upgrade cards, a 680/PPC G3 asymetrical upgrade card & a professional Amiga Sony monitor for $3000 or something, it would still be worth that in 2 years time, While if I spent that much putting together a Ghz 'god box' PC it would be worth buggerall in 2 years time.
Considering that 90% of what people do on a computer is writeing letters, browsing the web, doing their e-mail & doing their tax return, then its integer that's need. Guess what, you know what's the x86 integer king its the Cyrix 686 core & in its time the Cyrix 686L PR200+ was the integer god CPU for office CPUs, plus it had the best memory bandth of 'em all, with its 75mhz FSB.
Its rare ever to see AMD retail products, even on the retail market - look at slotA T'birds are OEM only, but they are more avaliable than the socket version. You'll have no problem buying a OEM K6-2+ or K60III+ CPU from heaps of sites on the web if the just wait a couple of months.
I purchased a new K6-III 400 CPU a while ago for $70 & its running stabily at 475mhz (it will run stabily at 500mhz if I disable the motherboards L3 cache). The fact is when buy a CPU, one is always ripping oneself off if they purchase the top speed grade for any CPU.
Actually there's even a webpage that lists what old soxket 7 boards support the lated AMD K6 cores (K6-2CTX, K6-III, K6-2+ & K6-III+)m via undocumenred settings &/or bios updates. I've forgotten the URL though.
Ah no, actually the US spends the most of any country in the world on healthcare - both as a percentage of GNP, & per capita, oh & in total too. Precisely because the US has doesnt have the cost cutting regimes in place that other western nations have where there's only one buyer of medicaLl services.
Well I just put my highschool mathematics to use & I figure that a powerpoint will really need to have to cope with 2 electric heaters as that system would be about 5 to 6 thousand watts. So I got my electric heater (2500w) & the fanheater out of the other room (2400w in high) & plugged 'em in the same powerpoint with a double adaptor & had no problems what so ever. So yes I think I'll be ok. Its good we have 240v in Oz rather than the crapy 100v mains in the US. It helps keeps the amps low & it means all the wiring is up to par.
if my 2500w electric heater (Australian houses mostly don't have central heating) doesnt blow my power point I bet that wouldnt. Your telling me that thing is more than 2500w? right?
Yes that Cyrix 686L PR200+ was a top performer, especial as it was really running at only 150mhz, & as far as its integer unit was concerned it was up there with the P233mmx, even though its FPU was about not much better than about P133 standard. It was those bloody PR ratings that killed it, just so they could make a little more money on each speed grade, even though it made it look bad performance wise. When they tested the 'Joshua' cored CyrixIII at Tom hardware, the PR533 was competetive with the Celeron 533 as far as integer was concerned, but its FPU again blew it. Howevera compared with the Celeron 433 (the CyrixIII 'Joshua' PR533 really ran at 433mhz) it creamed it as far as integer scores & its FPU was competitive too. Plus if they had used optimised benchmarks it would 'ave done even better as it had twin MMX units & twin 3D-Now units ontop of its twin FPU, & its 686 integer unit (the undisputed X86 integer king), & it had on-chip 256k L2 cache. However the Joshua core just wasnt ramping MHZ wise, so VIA again 'released' the Cyrix III with the IDT Winchip 'Samual' core. which doesnt even perform as well as the 'Joshua' at equal speed grades (it even has no on-chip L2 cache) but its ramping marvously at speed up to to the GHZ leval & even better in the lab.
Contray to what most internet reveiwers think, most graphic cards use 3d a small proportion of the time. However when it comes to Video in/out, MPEG2/DVD hardware acceleration, & HDTV support in hardware, plus the best on card TV implimentation, that ATI card makes your TNT2 look like a 1/2 meg trident card by comparion, or at the best a 1meg s3 virge card.
ATI does mpeg2 in hardware Yes thats right ATI has always been the best of the mainstream cards in video in/out & mpeg2/dvd hardware acceleration, plus of course on card TV. It also does HGTV in hardware too. Really the only thing ATI cards have been lacking in was knockout 3D, now it has that, It makes the 3dfx & GeForce cards look pedestrian in comparison.
Predicting that an accident might occure is not a threat. Things don't have to be spelt out. Look at all those Vietnamese gangs - the 'TTTTT' for instance, they go arround to local shopkeepers & predict that some violence or vandalism may occure in there shop, & suggest that they could stop minimise such 'random' acts, if the pay a commision to a 'security consultant' that they recommend. Now that maybe construed as a threat, but as far as a legallities are concerned its just advice. Actually in this capitalist economy of ours companies only exist to provide profits to shareholders. So really what the 'fivetees' are doing is just providing a service to get a cut of other businesses profits - really no different than lawyers, accountants, consultants, etc (afterall 99% of paperwork just produces more paperwork, would the world be anyless productive if all lawyers died tommorow? ). you more or less said yourself productivity is immaterial, ones profit shows ones worth (look at lawyers who actually encourage divorcing couples to keep fighting it out in court, till they the lawyers have got all the money, in your book they are productive members of society as they made a profit). So by your reckoning the 'fivetees' (it comes from the initials for the Vietnamese words for money, love, death, luck, war, or something like that) are productive as plenty of business are willing to pay them good money.
as a POSIX complient OS, without the need for X Windows. BTW, the Be GUI does support remote veiwing (well it is POSIX complient) just not under the default settings.
Ohh, it sounds like I hit a raw nerve, feeling a bit sensitive are we? You seem to be reacting like someone who's discovered what they do for a living is no more useful to society, than someone who makes Coca Cola adds, for a living. Actually I am in business for myself. BTW, we don't need sales executives or marketing personel. Why? Because the products we develope & distribute are actually needed, so they sell themselves. We also don't have to worry about lawsuits so much here in Australia, as we don't have so many useless lawyers in Australia going arround trying to get rich, plus the laws here are enforced with a little more common sense. BTW if anyone did try to & sue us, I would make it quiote plain that one of their relatives would have an accident unless they changed there mind, but really we arnt worth sueing & if that bluff didn't work I would just declare bankruptcy & reopen under another name somewhere else. One day maybe the tax regime may be simplified here too, so there'd be no virtually no need for tax accountants, & most of the tax accountants could retrain & do something intrinsically useful like land regeneration & de-salination (ie, go out & plant trees). BTW, there's an easy way to make sure farmers get a descent price for their products, just by having govt regulated co-op purchasing boards. For example here in New South Wales dairy farms sell all their milk to the Milk board at a regulated A52c per litre, while in the deregulated state of Victoria farmers only get about A30c for every litre of milk, which means the're lucky to cover costs - & guess what? In the supermarkets of both New South Wales & Victoria milk is virtually the same price. So whats happening in NSW the actuall producers are getting a fairer cut of the pie, while in Victoria the not so productive middlemen gets less of a cut - the way it should be, while the consumer is still ok.
....in this crazy upside down society of ours, that it seems that ones income is inversally proportional to ones real worth in society. Ie, the people who provide all the needs (food, clothing, housing), such as Mexican fruit pickers, bankrupt farmers (who get less for their produce than what it cost them to produce it) & 'out workers' in the rag trade (families of immigrants who spend 14 hours a day sewing shirts together, & only get 20c a shirt), have the lowest incomes in society. While the people on the highest incomes mostly do nothing of any intrinsic value (would there being any negative effects if all millionaires went on strike?) - does anyone remember in 'Hitchhikers guide to the Universe', where all the useless people like accountants, lawyers, advertising executives, management consultents (we had one at our work that was earning $1400 a hour, & was employed here for about 7 months - he made all sorts of suggestions & changed everything arround & then scarped before everthing fucked up, & went off to ruin someone elses business), marketing staff, sales excutives, stockbrokers, etc, colonised a planet (the spaceships with all the useful people crashed) & this planet ended up being called Earth later on, by their descendents.
Yes many Hondas, actually mostly Raynard Hondas & Lola Honda have been winning quite a few Indy/CART races the last few years & the odd Indy500 too. Just as SDRAM win on the performance front to & just as DDR SDRAM is better than DDR RDRAM, on most benchmarks. Looks like you analogy works neither way.
Clocking from the soft menu inside the BIOS does not work so well with many VIA Athlon boards (KX/KT), this is shown by the ones that have both a Soft menu in the BIOS & dip switches on the board itself. With many of those boards it you have the dip switches all off (or sometimes all on, depending on the board), so the FSB defaults to the soft menu, one is only able to clock 'em up from 100mhz to about 108mhz, however when one uses the dipswitch to overclock the same system components one can often get up to arround 124mhz. Yet the multiplyer hasnt been touched. Check http://www.techphiles.net/reviews/asus-k7v/page3.h tml You'll see what I mean.
to work. Yes that's right, the Machintosh iMovie/DVD player uses the DVD hardware acceleration that's embedded in ATI graphics cards. Contray to what Nvidia claims, none of their graphics cards support DVD hardware acceleration. Even though Nvidia is king as far as 3D performance goes, that's about it. Matrox has got the title as far as 2D image quality & video in/out. While ATI have got the title as far as embedded (on card) DVD hardware acceleration & embedded TV, plus they are right up their near Matox on Video in/out. Plus if they don't fall behind with their Radeon line they could be up their with Nvidia on 3D acceleration. While 3dfx has the title as far as 3D image quality with their real time FSAA. Plus, S3 are on the verge of having the value title, complete with embedded semi DVD hardware acceleration & DirectX3D acceleration that's almost on par with Nvidia. Thats why that even though all the hardware reveiews are 3D nuts, & therefore think Nvidia are the beesknees, their cards are not the ideal choive for quite a bit of the market.
Sounds like the best war to cool the flurinert would be to run it through a beer line - you know what they use to get the beer from the keg in the cellar up to the public bar in the pub, & cool it right down to about 3 degrees Celsius.
Akin to AMD's K7. It does not have a P6 core, nore does it run on a GTL+ bus. The Itanium (Merced/Mckinley) is Intel's 8th generation CPU, equilivent to AMD's K8 Ssledgehammer)
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Well a Pentium Pro (P6) is faster (even at the same MHZ) than a Pentium MMX (P5), even though it has no MMX while the later Pentiums did. People seem to forget the G5 is a generation ahead of the G4 (I assume that's what the 'G' means). Just like hypothetically a Athlon without 3D-Now would still be faster than a K6 with 3D-Now, even at the same clock speed.
that space above the DVD drive is not a drive bay, even though it may appear to look like one when you open the case. As there's no corresponding hole at the front, so the olny thing that can be put there is a hard drive. IMHO unless a case has at least four 5.25" drive bays (like the Enlight 7237) its just not a case. Afterall a high end system cannot justify that claim unless there's room for a DVD drive, a CD burner & 2 of those removable 'pullout' Hard drive caddies (one for the system drive & another one for the data drive). Plus it should have two 3.5 " bays too - one for the LS120MB superfloppy drive & one for a rainy day(Hopefully a 2.2GB Orb drive....one day:) ) Now if a G4 can't do that how can it claim to be high end.
should do the trick nicely
Another classic Ealing studio comedy, where Alec Guinness, played 6 parts.
Whiles PCs' dont. I bet you if I bought a second hand Amiga A4000 full tower Video Toaster with all the zorro upgrade cards, a 680/PPC G3 asymetrical upgrade card & a professional Amiga Sony monitor for $3000 or something, it would still be worth that in 2 years time, While if I spent that much putting together a Ghz 'god box' PC it would be worth buggerall in 2 years time.
Considering that 90% of what people do on a computer is writeing letters, browsing the web, doing their e-mail & doing their tax return, then its integer that's need. Guess what, you know what's the x86 integer king its the Cyrix 686 core & in its time the Cyrix 686L PR200+ was the integer god CPU for office CPUs, plus it had the best memory bandth of 'em all, with its 75mhz FSB.
Its rare ever to see AMD retail products, even on the retail market - look at slotA T'birds are OEM only, but they are more avaliable than the socket version. You'll have no problem buying a OEM K6-2+ or K60III+ CPU from heaps of sites on the web if the just wait a couple of months.
I purchased a new K6-III 400 CPU a while ago for $70 & its running stabily at 475mhz (it will run stabily at 500mhz if I disable the motherboards L3 cache). The fact is when buy a CPU, one is always ripping oneself off if they purchase the top speed grade for any CPU.
Actually there's even a webpage that lists what old soxket 7 boards support the lated AMD K6 cores (K6-2CTX, K6-III, K6-2+ & K6-III+)m via undocumenred settings &/or bios updates. I've forgotten the URL though.
Ah no, actually the US spends the most of any country in the world on healthcare - both as a percentage of GNP, & per capita, oh & in total too. Precisely because the US has doesnt have the cost cutting regimes in place that other western nations have where there's only one buyer of medicaLl services.
Well I just put my highschool mathematics to use & I figure that a powerpoint will really need to have to cope with 2 electric heaters as that system would be about 5 to 6 thousand watts. So I got my electric heater (2500w) & the fanheater out of the other room (2400w in high) & plugged 'em in the same powerpoint with a double adaptor & had no problems what so ever. So yes I think I'll be ok. Its good we have 240v in Oz rather than the crapy 100v mains in the US. It helps keeps the amps low & it means all the wiring is up to par.
if my 2500w electric heater (Australian houses mostly don't have central heating) doesnt blow my power point I bet that wouldnt. Your telling me that thing is more than 2500w? right?
Yes that Cyrix 686L PR200+ was a top performer, especial as it was really running at only 150mhz, & as far as its integer unit was concerned it was up there with the P233mmx, even though its FPU was about not much better than about P133 standard. It was those bloody PR ratings that killed it, just so they could make a little more money on each speed grade, even though it made it look bad performance wise. When they tested the 'Joshua' cored CyrixIII at Tom hardware, the PR533 was competetive with the Celeron 533 as far as integer was concerned, but its FPU again blew it. Howevera compared with the Celeron 433 (the CyrixIII 'Joshua' PR533 really ran at 433mhz) it creamed it as far as integer scores & its FPU was competitive too. Plus if they had used optimised benchmarks it would 'ave done even better as it had twin MMX units & twin 3D-Now units ontop of its twin FPU, & its 686 integer unit (the undisputed X86 integer king), & it had on-chip 256k L2 cache. However the Joshua core just wasnt ramping MHZ wise, so VIA again 'released' the Cyrix III with the IDT Winchip 'Samual' core. which doesnt even perform as well as the 'Joshua' at equal speed grades (it even has no on-chip L2 cache) but its ramping marvously at speed up to to the GHZ leval & even better in the lab.
Contray to what most internet reveiwers think, most graphic cards use 3d a small proportion of the time. However when it comes to Video in/out, MPEG2/DVD hardware acceleration, & HDTV support in hardware, plus the best on card TV implimentation, that ATI card makes your TNT2 look like a 1/2 meg trident card by comparion, or at the best a 1meg s3 virge card.
ATI does mpeg2 in hardware Yes thats right ATI has always been the best of the mainstream cards in video in/out & mpeg2/dvd hardware acceleration, plus of course on card TV. It also does HGTV in hardware too. Really the only thing ATI cards have been lacking in was knockout 3D, now it has that, It makes the 3dfx & GeForce cards look pedestrian in comparison.
Once you start browsing multiple open windows you'll realise how fussy IE5 is in comparison
Predicting that an accident might occure is not a threat. Things don't have to be spelt out. Look at all those Vietnamese gangs - the 'TTTTT' for instance, they go arround to local shopkeepers & predict that some violence or vandalism may occure in there shop, & suggest that they could stop minimise such 'random' acts, if the pay a commision to a 'security consultant' that they recommend. Now that maybe construed as a threat, but as far as a legallities are concerned its just advice. Actually in this capitalist economy of ours companies only exist to provide profits to shareholders. So really what the 'fivetees' are doing is just providing a service to get a cut of other businesses profits - really no different than lawyers, accountants, consultants, etc (afterall 99% of paperwork just produces more paperwork, would the world be anyless productive if all lawyers died tommorow? ). you more or less said yourself productivity is immaterial, ones profit shows ones worth (look at lawyers who actually encourage divorcing couples to keep fighting it out in court, till they the lawyers have got all the money, in your book they are productive members of society as they made a profit). So by your reckoning the 'fivetees' (it comes from the initials for the Vietnamese words for money, love, death, luck, war, or something like that) are productive as plenty of business are willing to pay them good money.
as a POSIX complient OS, without the need for X Windows. BTW, the Be GUI does support remote veiwing (well it is POSIX complient) just not under the default settings.
Ohh, it sounds like I hit a raw nerve, feeling a bit sensitive are we? You seem to be reacting like someone who's discovered what they do for a living is no more useful to society, than someone who makes Coca Cola adds, for a living. Actually I am in business for myself. BTW, we don't need sales executives or marketing personel. Why? Because the products we develope & distribute are actually needed, so they sell themselves. We also don't have to worry about lawsuits so much here in Australia, as we don't have so many useless lawyers in Australia going arround trying to get rich, plus the laws here are enforced with a little more common sense. BTW if anyone did try to & sue us, I would make it quiote plain that one of their relatives would have an accident unless they changed there mind, but really we arnt worth sueing & if that bluff didn't work I would just declare bankruptcy & reopen under another name somewhere else. One day maybe the tax regime may be simplified here too, so there'd be no virtually no need for tax accountants, & most of the tax accountants could retrain & do something intrinsically useful like land regeneration & de-salination (ie, go out & plant trees). BTW, there's an easy way to make sure farmers get a descent price for their products, just by having govt regulated co-op purchasing boards. For example here in New South Wales dairy farms sell all their milk to the Milk board at a regulated A52c per litre, while in the deregulated state of Victoria farmers only get about A30c for every litre of milk, which means the're lucky to cover costs - & guess what? In the supermarkets of both New South Wales & Victoria milk is virtually the same price. So whats happening in NSW the actuall producers are getting a fairer cut of the pie, while in Victoria the not so productive middlemen gets less of a cut - the way it should be, while the consumer is still ok.
....in this crazy upside down society of ours, that it seems that ones income is inversally proportional to ones real worth in society. Ie, the people who provide all the needs (food, clothing, housing), such as Mexican fruit pickers, bankrupt farmers (who get less for their produce than what it cost them to produce it) & 'out workers' in the rag trade (families of immigrants who spend 14 hours a day sewing shirts together, & only get 20c a shirt), have the lowest incomes in society. While the people on the highest incomes mostly do nothing of any intrinsic value (would there being any negative effects if all millionaires went on strike?) - does anyone remember in 'Hitchhikers guide to the Universe', where all the useless people like accountants, lawyers, advertising executives, management consultents (we had one at our work that was earning $1400 a hour, & was employed here for about 7 months - he made all sorts of suggestions & changed everything arround & then scarped before everthing fucked up, & went off to ruin someone elses business), marketing staff, sales excutives, stockbrokers, etc, colonised a planet (the spaceships with all the useful people crashed) & this planet ended up being called Earth later on, by their descendents.
Yes many Hondas, actually mostly Raynard Hondas & Lola Honda have been winning quite a few Indy/CART races the last few years & the odd Indy500 too. Just as SDRAM win on the performance front to & just as DDR SDRAM is better than DDR RDRAM, on most benchmarks. Looks like you analogy works neither way.
Clocking from the soft menu inside the BIOS does not work so well with many VIA Athlon boards (KX/KT), this is shown by the ones that have both a Soft menu in the BIOS & dip switches on the board itself. With many of those boards it you have the dip switches all off (or sometimes all on, depending on the board), so the FSB defaults to the soft menu, one is only able to clock 'em up from 100mhz to about 108mhz, however when one uses the dipswitch to overclock the same system components one can often get up to arround 124mhz. Yet the multiplyer hasnt been touched. Check http://www.techphiles.net/reviews/asus-k7v/page3.h tml You'll see what I mean.
to work. Yes that's right, the Machintosh iMovie/DVD player uses the DVD hardware acceleration that's embedded in ATI graphics cards. Contray to what Nvidia claims, none of their graphics cards support DVD hardware acceleration. Even though Nvidia is king as far as 3D performance goes, that's about it. Matrox has got the title as far as 2D image quality & video in/out. While ATI have got the title as far as embedded (on card) DVD hardware acceleration & embedded TV, plus they are right up their near Matox on Video in/out. Plus if they don't fall behind with their Radeon line they could be up their with Nvidia on 3D acceleration. While 3dfx has the title as far as 3D image quality with their real time FSAA. Plus, S3 are on the verge of having the value title, complete with embedded semi DVD hardware acceleration & DirectX3D acceleration that's almost on par with Nvidia. Thats why that even though all the hardware reveiews are 3D nuts, & therefore think Nvidia are the beesknees, their cards are not the ideal choive for quite a bit of the market.
Sounds like the best war to cool the flurinert would be to run it through a beer line - you know what they use to get the beer from the keg in the cellar up to the public bar in the pub, & cool it right down to about 3 degrees Celsius.
Akin to AMD's K7. It does not have a P6 core, nore does it run on a GTL+ bus. The Itanium (Merced/Mckinley) is Intel's 8th generation CPU, equilivent to AMD's K8 Ssledgehammer)