Sorry Jesset77, but try and keep up with the conversation.
My comment "The Jocks hire the first one."
Which was a response to "umm then who hires teh IT pros? At some point you have to hire your first officer."
That comment was a response to : "I don't work in IT" Then you probably aren't qualified to hire IT Professionals.
All this conversation was in reference to someone lamenting that Jocks beat up Geeks, to which someone labeled this thread ad "Maybe people should be more well-rounded"
I didn't mention Chuck Norris, and Chuck Norris wasn't a jock. In fact, he spent his childhood getting beat up by jocks because of his mixed ethnicity (irish/cherokee). He fantasized about getting revenge which is what initially led him into martial arts.
Now that I have completely responded to your bizarre fetish for Chuck Norris, I repeat my original comment. The jocks hire the first IT professional, since the Jocks end up as business majors.
My actual comment was really just being a smart ass, but now I am sure I have beaten any humor out of the comment at all. One last thing, this is Slashdot, not 4chan. You're obviously uncomfortable here, move 'long.
There is a big difference in the quality of an apple notebook when compared to a dell notebook. Apple makes a quality product, and I would prefer it over the crap Dell shovels out. Whether a Mac is worth the price difference is up to the purchaser, and the cachet of owning a Mac versus a Dell may be worth the money.
However, it is just like buying a 150 dollar Thermaltake Case and spending 70 dollars for an 80-plus certified power supply. That combination is better than buying a 39.99 cheapo case w/ power supply combined. I would rather have that Thermaltake brand case. It is better quality and provides better cooling than the cheapo case.
What I don't want is Microsoft telling me I have to run Windows 7 inside only a Thermaltake brand case. I don't want Apple to be able to tell me I can only run OSX only on a Apple brand case.
I don't want Debian to suddenly specify I can only run it on Asus brand hardware. I don't want SuSe liunux to specify that I can only run it on Novell brand hardware. The issue here is whether Operating System manufacturers have the right to specify the brand name of the hardware that runs it.
The difference isn't the size or the quality of the monitor. The difference is more like saying that I can only run the software on a Viewsonic brand monitor. Whether Apple's particular contract of adhesion is legal is currently being tested. The problem is whether a software creator has the right to tell the consumer what brand hardware he can run the software on.
Apple's argument about legally licensed is based on the section of their EULA which requires OSX to installed on "Apple-branded" hardware. Technically speaking, were I to take a Mac and use a grinder to remove all apple branding from the computer, I would then be violating the license. IANAL, but it seems to me that the license is in effect forcing customers to display advertising for Apple.
I don't know if that's a valid argument, but it would be interesting to see Psystar's lawyers argue it.
Wait until humans have cybernetic memory enhancers. Then there won't be a difference between making a photocopy and reading the book. Will courts demand brain dumps for forensic analysis?
No that is incorrect. Psystar is arguing that they are not modifying or creating a derivitive work in any respect. The only violation of the EULA they are guilty of is of running OSX on "non Apple branded" computers. Their bootloader does not modify the operating system in any way it merely sits between the operating system and the hardware. It is a hypervisor that allows "non Apple branded" computers to load an unmodified copy of OSX into memory.
As their filing states:
Instead, Psystar contends that it is bundling OS X, unmodified, with Psystar’s own interoperable software. It is just as though Psystar were selling computers with both OS X and Microsoft Word installed: it would not be the case in that situation that Psystar had “modified” OS X to include Microsoft Word (or vice versa); it would be appropriate to say, instead, that Psystar had bundled OS X with Microsoft Word while modifying neither.
However, as I read the briefs, several things came to my attention. The difference between the Blizzard case you cited and this case is that the WOWGlider bot software modified the operation of the copy loaded into RAM. You are allowed to make a copy of a program by loading it into memory. However, WOWGlider (aka MMOGlider) modified the operation of the WOW software illegally, hence the copyright infringement.
Psystar is not modifying the operation of OSX. It does, according to my understanding, trick OSX into thinking it runs on Apple hardware. The difference is that the operation of the software is no different, only standing between the software and the hardware it is running on. This is part of Psystar's argument. They also argue that even though what they are doing is a violation of the license agreement, they are not infringing on Apples copyright. License agreements do not expand copyright protections.
Psystar is arguing copyright misuse in requiring that their software only run on Apple Branded hardware, and that the provision is an illegal part of the license agreement. However, Psystar is refuting Apple's claims that the Psystar programs make an illegal modification of OSX. As Psystar's argument states:
As discussed in the next section, Psystar does not agree that the addition of Psystar’s bootloader and kernel extensions constitutes a modification of OS X. Instead, Psystar contends that it is bundling OS X, unmodified, with Psystar’s own interoperable software. It is just as though Psystar were selling computers with both OS X and Microsoft Word installed: it would not be the case in that situation that Psystar had “modified” OS X to include Microsoft Word (or vice versa); it would be appropriate to say, instead, that Psystar had bundled OS X with Microsoft Word while modifying neither.
As I read it, Psystar has a substantial argument, and I hope that they win their case. Were Microsoft to sell Microsoft brand computers, then alter the Windows license to only allow it to run on Microsoft brand computers, I would hope the court would refuse their right to do so.
Wow, NeXT, I haven't thought about that computer in years. I remember being really impressed with it. That computer was so cool. I remember being dazzled by it, it was like art.
And the fact that I am replying to someone on the Internet is the result of a NeXT computer. Tim Berners-Lee used a NeXT computer workstation at CERN, and that machine became the worlds first webserver.
It may not have sold huge numbers, but NeXT had a major impact on the machines which followed in its footsteps. In 1988 The NeXT was a machine that had 64MB of RAM, when a high end PC had 4MB.
This reminds me of a story that came from an era many decades earlier.
Two homeless old men sat on a park bench when past them walks Henry Ford who was at the time the most successful person on the planet.
The first homeless guy says, "I'd be rich just like Ford if I was as lucky as he was."
The second homeless guy turns to the first as replies,"Yeah, he was sure lucky. He had the luck to work sixteen hour days without the guarantee of any reward for his efforts. Then he had the luck of carefully making sure all the effort he spent was not wasted. Yeah, that Henry Ford was sure a lucky guy."
So many people here seem to enjoy bashing Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. But how many of you who are smashing them have even tried to start your own company and create and then sell something that people didn't believe you could do? How many people here dropped out of Harvard to start a software company when there was no market for one. Or who walked into a venture capitalist's office looking like a hippy and convince him to front you thousands of dollars on a product the general public didn't even know existed, much less even had a glimmer of an idea of wanting.
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs deserve everything they've earned. But I'd like to know, how many people here have done something that ballsy?
The biggest advantage VB had was that a bunch of noobs were inspired to start programming with it. My son is 7 and I plan to start teaching him programming with visual basic. When he gets older he will be encouraged to move to C++ or whatever other new language is available by that time, but VB is a pretty easy language to learn and can yield pretty effective results
Microsoft sells development environments. They want more and more people to buy their stuff. Gathering tyros and turning them into customers is a pretty good move.
Same thing here. I am a fan of the Wheel of Time series, and enjoyed many of Rigney's other books as well. When I heard Sanderson was taking up the story, I read his Mistborn trilogy, and I am now more excited than ever for the rest of the Wheel of Time series as well as any other future Books Sanderson writes.
As a responsible IT department, there shouldn't be any local document storage except on laptops. For all desktops, just reimage them with windows 7, then install your apps that have been previously tested to verify they all work in windows 7, be it in normal or compatibility mode. Then the domain login will point your end users to their network based storage locations. If a particular application requires local storage of some sort, an automated script should be able to backup that data before reimaging the drive.
For your laptop users, you run an automated backup script which copies all local data from the locations stated in your data management policies, reimage the drive, then restore the data using a restoration script that accounts for the switch from windows xp to vista.
Of course we are going to wait for sp1, but why are we going to spend all that extra time running an upgrade when i can prepare a disk image based on the limited number of hardware profiles, and then fresh install on those few machines that don't match our fairly well documented hardware profiles.
And the other side's geek builds one too. Then he puts a jock inside it to run it, and that jock in a robot exoskeleton beats the junk off your geek in a robot exoskeleton.
This proves two things. First, that even with advanced technology, the robo-jock is still going to give you a robo-wedgie.
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All that to get ready for Transformers: The Movie?
Sounds good. I just give my 7 year old a bag of scrabble letters and a cappuccino. he can create awesome random passwords
Nah, just use one password for everything and make it "password"
Rule 34 in action
Hey I need "reasonable accommodation" for that too.
That's got to make you feel good. GringoChapin kicked your ass in PunchOut and he's blind. That's like an order of magnitude of pwnage.
The Apple upgrade for users with a currently installed copy of OSX Leopard.
If you have an Intel based mac that doesn't have Leopard installed, you can purchase The Box Set to install on your computerfor 169.99
You can also find The Box Set for 35 dollars cheaper on Amazon.com
Thus, Apple does sell full copies of Snow Leopard, which Psystar utilizes for their machines.
Sorry Jesset77, but try and keep up with the conversation.
My comment "The Jocks hire the first one."
Which was a response to "umm then who hires teh IT pros? At some point you have to hire your first officer."
That comment was a response to : "I don't work in IT" Then you probably aren't qualified to hire IT Professionals.
All this conversation was in reference to someone lamenting that Jocks beat up Geeks, to which someone labeled this thread ad "Maybe people should be more well-rounded"
I didn't mention Chuck Norris, and Chuck Norris wasn't a jock. In fact, he spent his childhood getting beat up by jocks because of his mixed ethnicity (irish/cherokee). He fantasized about getting revenge which is what initially led him into martial arts.
Now that I have completely responded to your bizarre fetish for Chuck Norris, I repeat my original comment. The jocks hire the first IT professional, since the Jocks end up as business majors.
My actual comment was really just being a smart ass, but now I am sure I have beaten any humor out of the comment at all. One last thing, this is Slashdot, not 4chan. You're obviously uncomfortable here, move 'long.
I guess I should wait for the Vista service pack?
err...wrong OS... sorry
There is a big difference in the quality of an apple notebook when compared to a dell notebook. Apple makes a quality product, and I would prefer it over the crap Dell shovels out. Whether a Mac is worth the price difference is up to the purchaser, and the cachet of owning a Mac versus a Dell may be worth the money.
However, it is just like buying a 150 dollar Thermaltake Case and spending 70 dollars for an 80-plus certified power supply. That combination is better than buying a 39.99 cheapo case w/ power supply combined. I would rather have that Thermaltake brand case. It is better quality and provides better cooling than the cheapo case.
What I don't want is Microsoft telling me I have to run Windows 7 inside only a Thermaltake brand case. I don't want Apple to be able to tell me I can only run OSX only on a Apple brand case. I don't want Debian to suddenly specify I can only run it on Asus brand hardware. I don't want SuSe liunux to specify that I can only run it on Novell brand hardware. The issue here is whether Operating System manufacturers have the right to specify the brand name of the hardware that runs it.
That wasn't the question. The question was, "Why shouldn't the First Sale doctrine apply to books and not to computer software."
The difference isn't the size or the quality of the monitor. The difference is more like saying that I can only run the software on a Viewsonic brand monitor. Whether Apple's particular contract of adhesion is legal is currently being tested. The problem is whether a software creator has the right to tell the consumer what brand hardware he can run the software on.
Apple's argument about legally licensed is based on the section of their EULA which requires OSX to installed on "Apple-branded" hardware. Technically speaking, were I to take a Mac and use a grinder to remove all apple branding from the computer, I would then be violating the license. IANAL, but it seems to me that the license is in effect forcing customers to display advertising for Apple.
I don't know if that's a valid argument, but it would be interesting to see Psystar's lawyers argue it.
Wait until humans have cybernetic memory enhancers. Then there won't be a difference between making a photocopy and reading the book. Will courts demand brain dumps for forensic analysis?
That's okay Mr. Troll, we disregard you as well.
However, as I read the briefs, several things came to my attention. The difference between the Blizzard case you cited and this case is that the WOWGlider bot software modified the operation of the copy loaded into RAM. You are allowed to make a copy of a program by loading it into memory. However, WOWGlider (aka MMOGlider) modified the operation of the WOW software illegally, hence the copyright infringement.
Psystar is not modifying the operation of OSX. It does, according to my understanding, trick OSX into thinking it runs on Apple hardware. The difference is that the operation of the software is no different, only standing between the software and the hardware it is running on. This is part of Psystar's argument. They also argue that even though what they are doing is a violation of the license agreement, they are not infringing on Apples copyright. License agreements do not expand copyright protections.
Psystar is arguing copyright misuse in requiring that their software only run on Apple Branded hardware, and that the provision is an illegal part of the license agreement. However, Psystar is refuting Apple's claims that the Psystar programs make an illegal modification of OSX. As Psystar's argument states:
As I read it, Psystar has a substantial argument, and I hope that they win their case. Were Microsoft to sell Microsoft brand computers, then alter the Windows license to only allow it to run on Microsoft brand computers, I would hope the court would refuse their right to do so.
Wow, NeXT, I haven't thought about that computer in years. I remember being really impressed with it. That computer was so cool. I remember being dazzled by it, it was like art.
And the fact that I am replying to someone on the Internet is the result of a NeXT computer. Tim Berners-Lee used a NeXT computer workstation at CERN, and that machine became the worlds first webserver.
It may not have sold huge numbers, but NeXT had a major impact on the machines which followed in its footsteps. In 1988 The NeXT was a machine that had 64MB of RAM, when a high end PC had 4MB.
Jobs did have uncanny insight regarding the NeXT computer. When asked if he was upset that the computer's debut was delayed by several months, Jobs responded, "Late? This computer is five years ahead of its time!"
So many people here seem to enjoy bashing Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. But how many of you who are smashing them have even tried to start your own company and create and then sell something that people didn't believe you could do? How many people here dropped out of Harvard to start a software company when there was no market for one. Or who walked into a venture capitalist's office looking like a hippy and convince him to front you thousands of dollars on a product the general public didn't even know existed, much less even had a glimmer of an idea of wanting.
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs deserve everything they've earned. But I'd like to know, how many people here have done something that ballsy?
Geek cred in one easy sentence.
Steve Jobs belonged to the Homebrew Computer Club.
Points off against your own geek credibility if you have to look up what that was.
The biggest advantage VB had was that a bunch of noobs were inspired to start programming with it. My son is 7 and I plan to start teaching him programming with visual basic. When he gets older he will be encouraged to move to C++ or whatever other new language is available by that time, but VB is a pretty easy language to learn and can yield pretty effective results
Microsoft sells development environments. They want more and more people to buy their stuff. Gathering tyros and turning them into customers is a pretty good move.
Nope that doesn't sound geeky at all...
Same thing here. I am a fan of the Wheel of Time series, and enjoyed many of Rigney's other books as well. When I heard Sanderson was taking up the story, I read his Mistborn trilogy, and I am now more excited than ever for the rest of the Wheel of Time series as well as any other future Books Sanderson writes.
As a responsible IT department, there shouldn't be any local document storage except on laptops. For all desktops, just reimage them with windows 7, then install your apps that have been previously tested to verify they all work in windows 7, be it in normal or compatibility mode. Then the domain login will point your end users to their network based storage locations. If a particular application requires local storage of some sort, an automated script should be able to backup that data before reimaging the drive.
For your laptop users, you run an automated backup script which copies all local data from the locations stated in your data management policies, reimage the drive, then restore the data using a restoration script that accounts for the switch from windows xp to vista.
Of course we are going to wait for sp1, but why are we going to spend all that extra time running an upgrade when i can prepare a disk image based on the limited number of hardware profiles, and then fresh install on those few machines that don't match our fairly well documented hardware profiles.
And the other side's geek builds one too. Then he puts a jock inside it to run it, and that jock in a robot exoskeleton beats the junk off your geek in a robot exoskeleton.
This proves two things. First, that even with advanced technology, the robo-jock is still going to give you a robo-wedgie.
The other side's geek was smarter than you.