>Also, there are no Language Police or anything like that.
Oh? Who are they? Perhaps you'd like to explain why the EFF call them language police?
The official name is "Inspector". Inspector is a term for a police officer that inspects crimes. Therefore, an inspector working for the French Language Office (the translation) would be a "Police Inspector for the French Language Office", or, in short "Language Police Officer".
Here's a little article on what I'm talking about.
"...in their zeal to defend French, the old guard's language police punish violators of Quebec's stringent language laws--for example, English on business signs is permitted but only if the lettering is one-third the size of the French letters--with fines and other threats against business activity."
"A Greek immigrant had a van on which he advertised his business--'Bill's Plumbing and Heating.' The language law forbids English on any vehicle whose owner pursues his trade exclusively in Quebec. His truck and tools were seized and auctioned off by the language police because he would not pay the fine imposed for putting "Bill's Plumbing" on the side of his truck. A mason making gravestones was also attacked because the epitaphs were not bilingual."
Emphasis mine.
>Like I said, there is no 'language police', but people can complain to the govt about a company advertising/having a sign only in english, and the company can be fined.
Then, exactly _who_ confiscated that man's gravestones, and the other man's truck? Do you expect they were willingly handed over?
Clearly, there are police enforcing this law. Making them... (drumroll)... language police. This is in the same line as a police officer checking meters is a "meter maid", and a police officer metering your speed on a road is a "road pirate".
>I do not personally agree with the law(and I'm french, but I find it stupid, especially the "the font must be X% bigger in french" part) but I reckon that it's at least a somewhat good attempt to try to protect our language and culture in a sea of english speaking people, I wasn't able to find another one.
Perhaps we should just hole up english speakers in internment camps until they learn to speak the "right" language.
And you would wonder why people hate the French.
>And, BTW, like anything(religion, race, language, etc.), some people always act badly and are filled with hate, but don't let them fool you, the french speaking people are usually friendly toward other canadians and americans, and if you come downtown or in the west part of Montreal(which is the english speaking community), 90%+ of the people will speak english anyway so you won't have a problem. Heck, the whole west island is english only, not many speaks french there.
That's exciting. This person from Quebec actually explained how most of the Anglophones in the west island moved out because they couldn't work with the new laws (which, BTW, consistently violate Canada's Charter of Rights -- Quebec has to, every 5 years, pass themselves an exemption to the rights the rest of Canada enjoys), and that now, when he vists where his business and home was, he feels like an unwanted stranger.
If the Canadian French are so welcoming towards visitors, why do they consistently choose to almost uniformly elect the Bloc Quebecois, a party dedicated to the hatred of all that is Canadian and English? A party that has, on numerous occasions, attempted to separate Quebec from Canada? A party that managed to convince 49.97% of Quebecers that the English and Canadians were ruining their lives?
Fuck Quebec and their decision to continue to implement language police.
BTW: I got the opportunity to speak to an ex-Quebec business operator who was an anglophone. He explained his employees wanted to learn proper English, and when the language police (!) came to *force* them to speak French (it's the law) they refused. In the end he had to boot the guy out and enjoy a hefty fine to protect his worker's human right to speak the language of their choice. He quit doing business there shortly after, along with plenty of other people who wanted to do business in a language other than French.
And you wonder why the French are so hated in Canada...
>There are tons of people here who speak Korean, Vietnamese, Mandarin, Hindi, Punjabi, Arabic, Russian...
Not in Quebec unless they enjoy doing it from the inside of a jail cell. Well, that is, if they plan to speak that inside a business.
If we're going to be pedantic, a pound sign indicates pound sterling, and looks like a stylized 'E'. Someone more pedantic than myself will likely tell us all the HTML code to display this character.
The sign you are discussing is, in fact, an octothorpe (occasionally spelled without the 'e').;-)
Not nearly often enough.:-) But I do what I can to liberate more consoles each day!
Sometimes Canada sucks (Read: CD levy assuming people are all guilty of piracy).
Sometimes Canada kicks ass (Read: We don't assume you'll use a modchip to pirate games -- you're expected to use it responsibly for backing them up and for developing your own independently.)
Now, because you want to pretend you're some expert in this field (hint: By what you said you're clearly a wannabe) let me absolutely rip to shreds every last thing you said. And then some. Because I do consider myself an amateur going on expert. And, if you're the only competition, I'd a God in this field.
#1. Beta Hi-Fi had a nice 60 Hz hum. What a piece of shit. VHS ORIGINAL and Hi-Fi didn't have that pathetic problem. Even a first year high-school electronics student knows how to filter 60 Hz hum. One series capacitor. Since the audio isn't even balanced, it can even be a cheap 'n nasty polarized electrolytic. We're talking $0.02 here people, if that, and Sony was too bloody cheap to put it in. And these are the people you look up to for quality.
#2. A slightly damaged Beta tape could ruin your stereo speakers if played at high volume (note "tape damage"). That's sweet. Again, we're talking a few pennies spent on some clamping diodes (or, better yet, some REAL filter circuitry) or filtering capacitors. How *cheap* can you get?
The rest will come from this handy guide (I hope it isn't too complicated for you):
#3. Luminance horizontal resolution (equiv.):
Beta: 250 VHS: 240 % Difference: 4%
#4. Luminance vertical resolution:
Beta & VHS: 576 -- 0% difference
#5. Luminance signal to noise ratio:
Beta: 48 dB VHS: 43 dB % Difference: (I am too lazy to work out logs today) about 180%
Now, let's assume the truth, that people won't notice a few sparklies on their TV (especially in 1980, when the picture travelled to the TV modulated on channel 3 through cheap 'n nasty coax):
8.2% difference.
And next time think twice about posting so late to squeeze your comment in before the Don't Post timer runs out just to make yourself look smart. Because:
a) You're clearly not as smart as you think you are (or at least not smart enough to research before you go blathering off about things). A smart person would have given that proof first, rather than let me tear it apart to my benefit first. b) Corollary: There's always smarter people than you and I out there. c) You can't beat how often I check slashdot.
>"But, but, I was just copying the movie onto my eyeballs.
I didn't/steal/ anything. I wouldn't have paid for a
ticket anyway, so it's not like you lost a sale..."
You snuck in, as in trespassed? Well, I expect you to understand laws as old as time itself.
>"I was, uhhh,/sampling/ it. Yeah, that's it, I just
wanted to see if it was worth it before I paid the
full ticket price."
Unlike record companies, movie producers offer free trailers.
>"Yeah, and I already saw the movie yesterday, so I should
be allowed a couple of 'backup' viewings, in case maybe
I missed any good scenes when I ran to the john."
Unlike a CD, you aren't expected to view a movie at a theatre more than once on one ticket.
>"And I snuck in for free because you're a big evil greedy
corporation that charge too much for popcorn and exploit
your minimum-wage help! Take that, Capitalist Pigs!"
This one is just moronic. It doesn't even deserve a reply.
>You aren't bitching about Best Buy throwing your ass in jail because they caught you red-handed trying to lift a TV from them just because you bought some Mountain Dew when you were scoping out the joint.
No. That's because the current situation is a lot more like Best Buy suing you for copying down their prices.
Oh, surprise, surprise. They do that sort of thing. And they even use the same laws!
Remember, when you steal Best Buy's TV they are out a TV (and whatever it cost them, probably about $100). When you steal Best Buy's prices they might be out a sale. Who knows?
>And if very many hams do what you suggest the laws will be changed and those hams will lose their licenses and have to pay fines.
Yeah. Good luck. The minute that happens, Mexico and Canada will start running high power at those frequencies.
Radio waves don't care about political borders. And it took Canada 20 years before we even got laws banning pirate US satellite equipment. It'll be another 100 before we get laws to protect US powerline broadband.
I suppose if you live in the center of the US, you'll be ok. Quickly! Everyone! Move to Kansas and get away from those other pesky countries!
>It may not be right, but that is what will happen. BPL will get more votes than hams.
Just about everything does, but HAMs still have their frequencies. Partly because if Americans lose them to commercial interests, nobody else cares, and the bands become useless anyways, except for short range communications.
If you check the specs, BETA was, at best, 5% - 10% better in the picture quality department than VHS. We're talking about 10 lines of picture quality difference. Overscan on your TV takes more. It's a bit like noticing the difference between 640x480 and 640x400 video modes.
Anyways, VHS won because of many other factors, not the least of which were:
- Pornography on VHS from day one
- Holds an ENTIRE movie
- Don't have to beg Sony for permission to distribute your show on VHS (See the pornography note above)
- Made by many different manufacturers from day one
- It wasn't a Sony product (the "Sony factor" only works for walkmans, at least in the US -- look at any of their other Sony products, such as memory sticks, MDs, glasstrons, DATs, etc)
- It's a freer format
- HQ/Hi-Fi "seals of approval" were easier to get for VHS decks than BETA
- VHS was somewhat cheaper, due to competition, whereas BETA was Sony-only (at first) and being a Sony product, already TOTALLY overpriced
The logic worked favourably only by happenstance. Which means, we paid a bunch of money to a bunch of people to get a solution that could have worked if we had monkeys sit and write out ideas.
Using the same "smaller is cheaper" logic would dictate the use of incandescent light fixtures over fluorescent ones.
Of course, this is only one of those hearsay stories, but it sounds about right, just like $600 hammers and million dollar space pens.
>undoubtedly the canadian government wouldn't object to their country becoming the world's landfill
I doubt they would, considering we dump our nuclear waste there.
Carrying on...
>tons of trash from all over the world would magically be transported there as soon as it was thrown out by friendly trash fairies at no cost to anyone
Of course it would cost. You see, that's the point. Communities would either decide to deal with their own trash, and save, or not, and pay. The magic of economics 101 continues.
A lot of communities, such as mine, decide to deal with their own waste. Did you know we turned out last landfill into a park? And that there's houses built there? And that we get free Natual Gas from it? AND.... that if I didn't point it out to you, you'd never know it was there?
AMAZING! And that was 20 years ago. I wonder if we can do a better job now? If you watch that Penn and Teller video, or visit any modern landfill, you might actually decide to live near there. Cheap housing, clean, and hey, if the next.com bubble and burst comes by, easy to get jobs.
If you ever choose to visit a properly decomissioned landfill, you'd know what I'm talking about. Pristine and nice. Better than a lot of backyards.
>The governments of the world can declare Jupiter to be their landfill; since no one lives there it won't cost anything to acquire it, so we can solve our trash problems indefinitely for free.
Perfect. But why go to that trouble when you can let it spiral into the Sun, instead. Then you get free incineration, too. But we're a long way from that. Oh well. I guess we'll just have to use 30 or 40 sq miles of land up. Gee. I'm all broken hearted over that.
Reminds me of the one about the Canadian Government buildings being determined to cost $200 a year per sq ft to maintain, so they replaced the CRTs with LCDs because they used less space, and therefore would cost less to maintain.
>Oh and those who suggest landfills, you are of course the volunteer to have it in your backyard right? Thought not.
Did you know? The average person in Nunavut owns 100 square km of land? And that would be enough for everyone in the US for the next 100 years? And that nobody in their right mind would ever take a vacation up there except maybe to visit family, or if they're crazy enough to try to boat in frozen rivers?
Basically, if the entire world could scrape together enough money to buy, oh, say, the land of 100 people in Nunavut, we could be trash-problem-free for at least a few centuries worldwide.
But hey, let's pretend we want to put the landfill in the centre of Hollywood without paying people for the inconvenience. That makes way better press than giving 20 inuit $1,000,000 each.
>Funny thing is that the glass industry itself doesn't seem to think so.
Awesome. So, why aren't all my glasses made from recycled glass?
>Just that the only problem is that the margins are extremely narrow so it is hard to make the business of collecting a real profit maker.
Ahhh, thought so. It's not economically viable, then. Usually most business people (such as myself) associate that with "too costly", perhaps that's where the confusion is. I suppose there's just not enough people wanting to work for pennies an hour shovelling broken glass to make it a popular business.
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>Also, there are no Language Police or anything like that.
Oh? Who are they? Perhaps you'd like to explain why the EFF call them language police?
The official name is "Inspector". Inspector is a term for a police officer that inspects crimes. Therefore, an inspector working for the French Language Office (the translation) would be a "Police Inspector for the French Language Office", or, in short "Language Police Officer".
Here's a little article on what I'm talking about.
"...in their zeal to defend French, the old guard's language police punish violators of Quebec's stringent language laws--for example, English on business signs is permitted but only if the lettering is one-third the size of the French letters--with fines and other threats against business activity."
"A Greek immigrant had a van on which he advertised his business--'Bill's Plumbing and Heating.' The language law forbids English on any vehicle whose owner pursues his trade exclusively in Quebec. His truck and tools were seized and auctioned off by the language police because he would not pay the fine imposed for putting "Bill's Plumbing" on the side of his truck. A mason making gravestones was also attacked because the epitaphs were not bilingual."
Emphasis mine.
>Like I said, there is no 'language police', but people can complain to the govt about a company advertising/having a sign only in english, and the company can be fined.
Then, exactly _who_ confiscated that man's gravestones, and the other man's truck? Do you expect they were willingly handed over?
Clearly, there are police enforcing this law. Making them... (drumroll)... language police. This is in the same line as a police officer checking meters is a "meter maid", and a police officer metering your speed on a road is a "road pirate".
>I do not personally agree with the law(and I'm french, but I find it stupid, especially the "the font must be X% bigger in french" part) but I reckon that it's at least a somewhat good attempt to try to protect our language and culture in a sea of english speaking people, I wasn't able to find another one.
Perhaps we should just hole up english speakers in internment camps until they learn to speak the "right" language.
And you would wonder why people hate the French.
>And, BTW, like anything(religion, race, language, etc.), some people always act badly and are filled with hate, but don't let them fool you, the french speaking people are usually friendly toward other canadians and americans, and if you come downtown or in the west part of Montreal(which is the english speaking community), 90%+ of the people will speak english anyway so you won't have a problem. Heck, the whole west island is english only, not many speaks french there.
That's exciting. This person from Quebec actually explained how most of the Anglophones in the west island moved out because they couldn't work with the new laws (which, BTW, consistently violate Canada's Charter of Rights -- Quebec has to, every 5 years, pass themselves an exemption to the rights the rest of Canada enjoys), and that now, when he vists where his business and home was, he feels like an unwanted stranger.
If the Canadian French are so welcoming towards visitors, why do they consistently choose to almost uniformly elect the Bloc Quebecois, a party dedicated to the hatred of all that is Canadian and English? A party that has, on numerous occasions, attempted to separate Quebec from Canada? A party that managed to convince 49.97% of Quebecers that the English and Canadians were ruining their lives?
Fuck Quebec and their decision to continue to implement language police.
>Why do you care what language someone else speaks?
I don't know. Why?
BTW: I got the opportunity to speak to an ex-Quebec business operator who was an anglophone. He explained his employees wanted to learn proper English, and when the language police (!) came to *force* them to speak French (it's the law) they refused. In the end he had to boot the guy out and enjoy a hefty fine to protect his worker's human right to speak the language of their choice. He quit doing business there shortly after, along with plenty of other people who wanted to do business in a language other than French.
And you wonder why the French are so hated in Canada...
>There are tons of people here who speak Korean, Vietnamese, Mandarin, Hindi, Punjabi, Arabic, Russian...
Not in Quebec unless they enjoy doing it from the inside of a jail cell. Well, that is, if they plan to speak that inside a business.
>The pound sign '#' also stands for number.
If we're going to be pedantic, a pound sign indicates pound sterling, and looks like a stylized 'E'. Someone more pedantic than myself will likely tell us all the HTML code to display this character.
The sign you are discussing is, in fact, an octothorpe (occasionally spelled without the 'e'). ;-)
Not nearly often enough. :-) But I do what I can to liberate more consoles each day!
Sometimes Canada sucks (Read: CD levy assuming people are all guilty of piracy).
Sometimes Canada kicks ass (Read: We don't assume you'll use a modchip to pirate games -- you're expected to use it responsibly for backing them up and for developing your own independently.)
Yeah you could do that. However, that fact doesn't make a model rocket any safer.
Ok.
Here's a real life example. They can start major fires, and that wasn't even done on purpose.
Because they're in business and aren't that generous; whereas Linus was in school and appears quite generous.
So. It got him a job.
Didn't Linus get a job at transmeta because of what he learned from developing Linux?
>But what do any of us engineers get from this?
I don't know. What did albert einstein gain from discovering relativity?
Blah blah blah.
Read this and weep.
Now, because you want to pretend you're some expert in this field (hint: By what you said you're clearly a wannabe) let me absolutely rip to shreds every last thing you said. And then some. Because I do consider myself an amateur going on expert. And, if you're the only competition, I'd a God in this field.
From this expert source:
#1. Beta Hi-Fi had a nice 60 Hz hum. What a piece of shit. VHS ORIGINAL and Hi-Fi didn't have that pathetic problem. Even a first year high-school electronics student knows how to filter 60 Hz hum. One series capacitor. Since the audio isn't even balanced, it can even be a cheap 'n nasty polarized electrolytic. We're talking $0.02 here people, if that, and Sony was too bloody cheap to put it in. And these are the people you look up to for quality.
#2. A slightly damaged Beta tape could ruin your stereo speakers if played at high volume (note "tape damage"). That's sweet. Again, we're talking a few pennies spent on some clamping diodes (or, better yet, some REAL filter circuitry) or filtering capacitors. How *cheap* can you get?
The rest will come from this handy guide (I hope it isn't too complicated for you):
#3. Luminance horizontal resolution (equiv.):
Beta: 250
VHS: 240
% Difference: 4%
#4. Luminance vertical resolution:
Beta & VHS: 576 -- 0% difference
#5. Luminance signal to noise ratio:
Beta: 48 dB
VHS: 43 dB
% Difference: (I am too lazy to work out logs today) about 180%
#6. Horizontal colour (chroma) equivalent resoultion:
Beta: 45
VHS: 40
% Difference: 21%
#7. Chroma vertical resolution:
Beta: 240
VHS: 200
% Difference: 16%
#8. Sound.
0% difference between Beta and VHS.
Let's average everything out now.
(4 + 0 + 180 + 21 + 16 + 0) / 6 = 36% difference.
Now, let's assume the truth, that people won't notice a few sparklies on their TV (especially in 1980, when the picture travelled to the TV modulated on channel 3 through cheap 'n nasty coax):
8.2% difference.
And next time think twice about posting so late to squeeze your comment in before the Don't Post timer runs out just to make yourself look smart. Because:
a) You're clearly not as smart as you think you are (or at least not smart enough to research before you go blathering off about things). A smart person would have given that proof first, rather than let me tear it apart to my benefit first.
b) Corollary: There's always smarter people than you and I out there.
c) You can't beat how often I check slashdot.
Now, HAND now, you hear?
>"But, but, I was just copying the movie onto my eyeballs. /steal/ anything. I wouldn't have paid for a
/sampling/ it. Yeah, that's it, I just
I didn't
ticket anyway, so it's not like you lost a sale..."
You snuck in, as in trespassed? Well, I expect you to understand laws as old as time itself.
>"I was, uhhh,
wanted to see if it was worth it before I paid the
full ticket price."
Unlike record companies, movie producers offer free trailers.
>"Yeah, and I already saw the movie yesterday, so I should
be allowed a couple of 'backup' viewings, in case maybe
I missed any good scenes when I ran to the john."
Unlike a CD, you aren't expected to view a movie at a theatre more than once on one ticket.
>"And I snuck in for free because you're a big evil greedy
corporation that charge too much for popcorn and exploit
your minimum-wage help! Take that, Capitalist Pigs!"
This one is just moronic. It doesn't even deserve a reply.
Any more crappy arguments for me to debunk today?
>You aren't bitching about Best Buy throwing your ass in jail because they caught you red-handed trying to lift a TV from them just because you bought some Mountain Dew when you were scoping out the joint.
:-)
No. That's because the current situation is a lot more like Best Buy suing you for copying down their prices.
Oh, surprise, surprise. They do that sort of thing. And they even use the same laws!
Remember, when you steal Best Buy's TV they are out a TV (and whatever it cost them, probably about $100). When you steal Best Buy's prices they might be out a sale. Who knows?
Get your analogies straight.
>SCO isn't suing its consumers. It's suing companies that use a competing product that they claim infringes on their property.
The moment you quit viewing people using or considering a competing system as customers is the moment your company ceases to expand.
It sucks for business when you see customers as nothing more than collateral damage.
>And if very many hams do what you suggest the laws will be changed and those hams will lose their licenses and have to pay fines.
Yeah. Good luck. The minute that happens, Mexico and Canada will start running high power at those frequencies.
Radio waves don't care about political borders. And it took Canada 20 years before we even got laws banning pirate US satellite equipment. It'll be another 100 before we get laws to protect US powerline broadband.
I suppose if you live in the center of the US, you'll be ok. Quickly! Everyone! Move to Kansas and get away from those other pesky countries!
>It may not be right, but that is what will happen. BPL will get more votes than hams.
Just about everything does, but HAMs still have their frequencies. Partly because if Americans lose them to commercial interests, nobody else cares, and the bands become useless anyways, except for short range communications.
It's a real email address (send me stuff!) but... I'm fresh out. I'll stick yours on the pile for next time. HTH.
All fresh out now! Anyone who mailed me and didn't get one, I'll keep you on file and as soon as the invite counter resets, I'll hook you up.
Thanks all that asked! Hope you enjoy your accounts!
1 down!
:-)
Seems I still have 5 more left! Keep those mails coming!
I have one invite left. First to email me for one gets it.
If you check the specs, BETA was, at best, 5% - 10% better in the picture quality department than VHS. We're talking about 10 lines of picture quality difference. Overscan on your TV takes more. It's a bit like noticing the difference between 640x480 and 640x400 video modes.
Anyways, VHS won because of many other factors, not the least of which were:
- Pornography on VHS from day one
- Holds an ENTIRE movie
- Don't have to beg Sony for permission to distribute your show on VHS (See the pornography note above)
- Made by many different manufacturers from day one
- It wasn't a Sony product (the "Sony factor" only works for walkmans, at least in the US -- look at any of their other Sony products, such as memory sticks, MDs, glasstrons, DATs, etc)
- It's a freer format
- HQ/Hi-Fi "seals of approval" were easier to get for VHS decks than BETA
- VHS was somewhat cheaper, due to competition, whereas BETA was Sony-only (at first) and being a Sony product, already TOTALLY overpriced
The logic worked favourably only by happenstance. Which means, we paid a bunch of money to a bunch of people to get a solution that could have worked if we had monkeys sit and write out ideas.
Using the same "smaller is cheaper" logic would dictate the use of incandescent light fixtures over fluorescent ones.
Of course, this is only one of those hearsay stories, but it sounds about right, just like $600 hammers and million dollar space pens.
>undoubtedly the canadian government wouldn't object to their country becoming the world's landfill
.com bubble and burst comes by, easy to get jobs.
I doubt they would, considering we dump our nuclear waste there.
Carrying on...
>tons of trash from all over the world would magically be transported there as soon as it was thrown out by friendly trash fairies at no cost to anyone
Of course it would cost. You see, that's the point. Communities would either decide to deal with their own trash, and save, or not, and pay. The magic of economics 101 continues.
A lot of communities, such as mine, decide to deal with their own waste. Did you know we turned out last landfill into a park? And that there's houses built there? And that we get free Natual Gas from it? AND.... that if I didn't point it out to you, you'd never know it was there?
AMAZING! And that was 20 years ago. I wonder if we can do a better job now? If you watch that Penn and Teller video, or visit any modern landfill, you might actually decide to live near there. Cheap housing, clean, and hey, if the next
If you ever choose to visit a properly decomissioned landfill, you'd know what I'm talking about. Pristine and nice. Better than a lot of backyards.
>The governments of the world can declare Jupiter to be their landfill; since no one lives there it won't cost anything to acquire it, so we can solve our trash problems indefinitely for free.
Perfect. But why go to that trouble when you can let it spiral into the Sun, instead. Then you get free incineration, too. But we're a long way from that. Oh well. I guess we'll just have to use 30 or 40 sq miles of land up. Gee. I'm all broken hearted over that.
It's from Boards of Canada, specifically their track "One Very Important Thought". Sorry, it wouldn't fit into the sig properly. :-)
Reminds me of the one about the Canadian Government buildings being determined to cost $200 a year per sq ft to maintain, so they replaced the CRTs with LCDs because they used less space, and therefore would cost less to maintain.
*sigh*
>Oh and those who suggest landfills, you are of course the volunteer to have it in your backyard right? Thought not.
Did you know? The average person in Nunavut owns 100 square km of land? And that would be enough for everyone in the US for the next 100 years? And that nobody in their right mind would ever take a vacation up there except maybe to visit family, or if they're crazy enough to try to boat in frozen rivers?
Basically, if the entire world could scrape together enough money to buy, oh, say, the land of 100 people in Nunavut, we could be trash-problem-free for at least a few centuries worldwide.
But hey, let's pretend we want to put the landfill in the centre of Hollywood without paying people for the inconvenience. That makes way better press than giving 20 inuit $1,000,000 each.
>Funny thing is that the glass industry itself doesn't seem to think so.
Awesome. So, why aren't all my glasses made from recycled glass?
>Just that the only problem is that the margins are extremely narrow so it is hard to make the business of collecting a real profit maker.
Ahhh, thought so. It's not economically viable, then. Usually most business people (such as myself) associate that with "too costly", perhaps that's where the confusion is. I suppose there's just not enough people wanting to work for pennies an hour shovelling broken glass to make it a popular business.