>It is why people fly planes into big skyscrapers... Because they think they'll go to heaven
>It is why Saddam excepted those chemical weapons from the US... Because there was once a thing called realpolitic
>It is why we made the Kyoto thing... Because the environment is your new religon with all the dogma, ignorance, and hate. Every religon needs its devil, and yours is the US.
> It is why Germany and France are still against killing millions of Iraqi's... Germany, because they played the hate America card during the election; France because they 1) think they can ride this to neo-colonial power in the EU, 2) we refuse to promise them oil concessions for their state owned oil company, 3) maybe the world will forget the 1 million Algerians they killed. IIRC this is the same crap argument given when we went against the Taliban and Al-Quida in Afghanistan. Were there civilian casualties? Yes there were. Its unfortunate, it is something you try to avoid, but they happen. There is a cost for everything. Looking beyond the casualties, the girls are going back to school, the women can work and provide for their families, and the culture is being returned. Is it worth the price? Yes it is. Do you really think we are going to kill 1 million civilians? If so you are an ignorant ass. France, Germany, and Russia want business as usual, they are more then happy to trade the freedom of the Iraqi people for their own security and state iol revenues. 12-18 months from now when they are holding free and open elections in Iraq, I expect a public apology from you, the Germans, and the French. Of course the French will be tied down in the Ivory Coast, trying to exert their neo-colonial powers by forcing an agreement on the citizens of the Ivory Coast that they don't want.
>It is why we laughed when Bush said funny things like "misunderestimate" and "sublimmmmennllll messages"... because it makes you feel better about yourselves, something like the Dwares all laugh when the Giant stumbles.
>It is why third world countries stay poor, as the envy gets in the way of people doing anything productive... because of failed EUROPEAN colonial and post-colonial policies that put (and keep) horribly corrupt governments in place in Africa and the Middle East
>And... It's why the rest of the world is constantly hoping spaceshuttles explode in orbit... so it makes you happy when the shuttle explodes, 7 people who have nothing to do with your supposed causes die and you are happy to see them die? Then you wonder why we don't care what the rest of the world thinks. We tried being loved, now we will settle for being feared. Oh I now what you're thinking "oh I hope those freedom loving Al-Quida nuke America" Even if they did it wouldn't change a goddamn thing, oh it may take a couple of years but even the loss of D.C. wouldn't prevent us from climbing back on top, it's what we do. or maybe you think the EU will ascend to dominate the U.S. Hate to bust your non-existant euroballs but the EU isn't going to do jack and shit. Those clowns can't even create a common agricultural policy, let alone a common foreign policy. I'll wait, German unemployment is up and will continue up once the US removes its bases, and we all know what happens when the Germans are unemployed. When you are under the boot of Franco-German facism, I for one will declare 'No Blood For Europe'.
No, they start a dot com, hire the same nerds they picked on (you), work you 70+ hours a week, pay you half your salary in stock options, then make millions by cashing out their stock options before the company folds, leaving the nerds with stock option toliet paper, RSI, and no money.
>go work for a company that makes THINGS not IDEAS
great idea, until someone hijacks your process and builds whatever you make in China at 1/10th the cost, now your company that makes things is gone because it can't compete.
Then explain why he stands by while children are molested by His priests in His house, explain why a soul is condemned to eternal torment because they do not embrace Christian theology? After all, God is both all powerful and all knowing, right? If he knows someone will not embrace yet does nothing stop that from happening, He, Himself is condemning that person to eternal torment. If He knows that a priest is a child molester and does nothing to stop it, he is an accessory to rape. Either He is or is not all powerful and all knowing, there is no middle ground. What is the last digit of Pi? Can God create an object so massive that he cannot move it? Oh I know what you are going to say "ohh poor unbeliever, too bad you're going to hell and I'm going to heaven" and I'm sure you'll say your prayers tonight and pray that I see the light. Well, I won't, does that mean God didn't listen or that He already decided to condemn me? Let me make sure I understand this, if Cardinal Law believes in Jesus, then he gets a free pass to heaven even though he is directly or indirectly responsible for so much anguish but, Ghandi is in hell. Yeah, that's a system I wanna sign up for.
Perception of frequency ranges is determined prior to the activation of the related cortex. No amount or type of of drug is going to alter the frequency at which either the color cones in the eyes or cillia (sp) in the ears responds.
That being said, once the information has ben passed from the sensory organ to the brain all bets are off regarding the effects of drugs. Even without drugs people who have synaesthesia often report multi-modality perceptions where persons without synaesthesia report single modality perceptions (ie color coding of otherwise black and white text).
So, you worship a God that condemns a soul to eternal damnation if they don't say the magic words, but stands idly by while His priests molest little boys in His own House. Don't give me that "God works in mysterious way" line. Sorry, I cannot bring myself to worship a callous, hateful god.
> (judging by the point where it ceases to be *easy* for a child to learn to read and to learn other languages without rote memorization)
That does not necessarily identify the closure of a "learning window" since it may (or may not) have a lot to do with the wiring of the auditory cortex, language related cortex, and the neurons responsible for controlling the vocal tract.
Yeah, like the government cares about a Green Party peace activist. Ohhh she's such a threat to the 'establishment'. There has to be what, at least 100 people that care about what she has to say. Gosh I bet those evil, white men in D.C. are terrified of her. Dork.
nah, the congress critters are just looking out for themselves. After all, they don't want their love emails to their favorite girlfriends/boyfriends/farm animals to be used as blackmail material.
Yes local government is elected but those doing the electing aren't the ones doing the commuting because they live outside of London. Since I do not know what the electoral boundries are, this is only an assumtion. If I am right, then the government is assured reelection by spending the money on more police. However, you may be right, but I suspect that in a year from now the news will have reports on how much worse it has gotten and the public transportation initiatives will still be under review where they will remain until election time starts rolling around. Then they will be dusted off with much fan fair before being quietly shelved again after the election. In the mean time the traffic problem will not abate and the only thing the government will be interested is how high they can run up the charge before inciting a bloody revolt.
It's been many years since I have been to London, so bear with me if it sounds like I am talking out of my ass, 'cause I am.
What about tax abatements to encourage companies to relocate outside of this congested area? Suburbs in the US have had a pretty good track record (depending on your point of view) in getting companies to relocate. This won't solve all of the problems and I understand that some organizations cannot move (hospitals for instance). However, if the problem is too many people commuting to London then try to move their communte point out of the city. The people who can afford it will pay the fee and companies will use fee reembursement as a recruiting tool. It will be the working middle class that won't be able to afford the 25 pounds a week. I guess I don't understand why it is this group that has to pay for the city planners inability to manage growth.
> which by law must go back into London's transport system
Sure, and state lottery money in the US is supposed to go into the education budget and the tobacco settlements were supposed to pay for an anti-smoking campaign. Don't hold your breath.
> it's a step towards public transport in a big city--it's a good thing.
I disagree, it's a cash cow for the local government, once the city government sees how much money it generates, there will be no interest to boost public transportation.
Don't accept it all you want, the fact is that Chamberlin (sp?) claimed that he had secured "peace in our time" while Hitler said "I have seen our enemies at Munich and they are worms"
appeasement kills, apparently you haven't learned your lesson.
The era of "real-politic" is over. We no longer have to sit on our hands while "allies" like Saddam gas their own people and threaten the physical and economic well being of both neighbors and the world at large, because of larger geo-political concerns. The UN and NATO are becoming more and more irrelevent to American foreign policy, not because they are trying to prvent an American hemogeny, but because they are willing to trade the freedom of the Iraqi people for their own security. Oh, I know what your going to say, "it's only oil", "the Iraqi people will only trade one dictator for another", "just exercise containment". First, Iraqi oil will be the property of the Iraqi people and extracted for their benefit. Yes, Shell, BP-Amaco, Haliburton, ect will manage the extraction process, but the fields will belong to the Iraqis. Second, yeah just like in Afganistan, tell that to the girls who are going to school and the women who can now work to support their families. Three, every day we exercise containment is another day that the Iraqi people suffer.
Oh I know, "The Iraqi people are only suffering because of the big, bad, bully, Americans and their economic sanctions". The sanctions are the UN's sanctions, voted and approved by the Security Council. We get to enforce them (with the help of the Brits - thanks, mates) because no one else can. The only person to blame for the condition of the Iraqi people is Saddam.
We don't want this war, but once again the world has failed to act and we are given no choice. No one is asking you to contribute, to sacrifice, to take moral responsibility, to pull the trigger. Your objections are duly noted, now please stand aside and let us do what we have to.
Why is Russia and Frace so dead set against this? They aren't, they are just trying to pressure the US into giving them oil field concessions for their state owned oil firms. Well, we can't. We cannot make that promise, that will be up to the liberated people of Iraq.
That sounds like a really good idea and I would like to see more private, for-profit companies moving into the space technology arena, but I'm not sure that there is any profit in current space projects. What does the space program do now? It launches satellites and does basic research. While the concept of things like mining asteroids for resources and zero-g production facilities sounds great, neither will be practical any time soon. Not because we can't put facilities into orbit, but because the science, engineering, and technology (which is independent of putting them in orbit) hasn't been done or is in such an early stage that calling it a prototype is wishful thinking. In order for them to be practical, a lot of money losing research will have to be done and no company worth investing in is going to say "yes, we'll go bankrupt, but we'll be hero's". Companies are in the business of making money and without some ROI, private companies are not going into space. This isn't like building an e-commerce site for your brick-and-mortar store. Space flight is prohibitvely expensive. The start-up costs alone would bankrupt most companies. Sure some companies could join together and share the costs, but that is as bad (if not worse) then the government doing it itself. Besides if we combine accounting oversite of the SEC and the risk aversion of the FDA we'd get an organization that spent all of it's investors money and never went anywhere.
Why is it "obviously an american comment"? Do you deny the illegal occupation of Scotland, Ireland, and Wales? Does the term "Bloody Sunday" mean anything to you? Have you heard the term "The curse of Cromwell on you". How about "Peace in our time" and "I've seen our enemies at Munich and they are worms" Are you aware that two of the worlds most geopolitically unstable regions are due to the failure of the British Empire? Hide your head in the sand all you want, but it won't change history.
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If you want to take over something, have the Germans do it for you.
Back in the late 80's early 90's when I was in, they talked about how automation would reduce the number of people needed to man a ship. What nobody ever discussed was how they were going to man the watch sections. Let's assume that you have 4 sections with 22 people each (88 total crew plus CO & XO). In port you need 3 watch standers on the quarterdeck (POOW, OOD, and messenger), one roving patrol, one engineering watch, and one engineering rover. That's 3+1+1+=6 people per watch. With 6, 4-hour watch section in port you need 36 people to cover the in port watches. Even going to 4 six hour watches, you need 24 people to cover watches. This doesn't include duty radioman, master-at-arms, CDO, shore patrol if you are OCONUS, or anything else I've forgotten. This gives us 39 (or 27). Now the khaki answer is go port/starboard (either within or between watch sections), which is fine until retention drops to zero because being port and starboard 24/7 would suck (the snipes on the Midway were rumored to be doing this). During an in port emergency, you'd be hard pressed to man all the watchs, supply 2 fire teams, SAT, and the BAF. That is just for the normal in port watches, the problem becomes even worse at anchor or in a hazardous area (ie. UAE) where extra watch standers are needed. These aren't positions that can be automated away.
Umm the Cole was not staioned in Yemen, it was there to refuel, with the permission of the government. If the citizens of a country want us to leave that is an issue between them and their government. Also, have any of these attacks ever been by nationalists? No you moron, they are done by religous fanatics. These terrorists do not speak for the citizens they pretend to represent. They represent a violent minority of Islam.
Do you really think the terrorists represent the ordinary individual? If by barracks you are refering to the bombing in Lebenon, it was carried out by Hezbollah, which is funded and controlled by Syria and Iran. If the citizens of a country have an issue with the presence of American troops, it is an issue for them to bring up with their government.
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>It is why people fly planes into big skyscrapers...
Because they think they'll go to heaven
>It is why Saddam excepted those chemical weapons from the US...
Because there was once a thing called realpolitic
>It is why we made the Kyoto thing...
Because the environment is your new religon with all the dogma, ignorance, and hate. Every religon needs its devil, and yours is the US.
> It is why Germany and France are still against killing millions of Iraqi's...
Germany, because they played the hate America card during the election; France because they 1) think they can ride this to neo-colonial power in the EU, 2) we refuse to promise them oil concessions for their state owned oil company, 3) maybe the world will forget the 1 million Algerians they killed. IIRC this is the same crap argument given when we went against the Taliban and Al-Quida in Afghanistan. Were there civilian casualties? Yes there were. Its unfortunate, it is something you try to avoid, but they happen. There is a cost for everything. Looking beyond the casualties, the girls are going back to school, the women can work and provide for their families, and the culture is being returned. Is it worth the price? Yes it is. Do you really think we are going to kill 1 million civilians? If so you are an ignorant ass. France, Germany, and Russia want business as usual, they are more then happy to trade the freedom of the Iraqi people for their own security and state iol revenues. 12-18 months from now when they are holding free and open elections in Iraq, I expect a public apology from you, the Germans, and the French. Of course the French will be tied down in the Ivory Coast, trying to exert their neo-colonial powers by forcing an agreement on the citizens of the Ivory Coast that they don't want.
>It is why we laughed when Bush said funny things like "misunderestimate" and "sublimmmmennllll messages"...
because it makes you feel better about yourselves, something like the Dwares all laugh when the Giant stumbles.
>It is why third world countries stay poor, as the envy gets in the way of people doing anything productive...
because of failed EUROPEAN colonial and post-colonial policies that put (and keep) horribly corrupt governments in place in Africa and the Middle East
>And... It's why the rest of the world is constantly hoping spaceshuttles explode in orbit...
so it makes you happy when the shuttle explodes, 7 people who have nothing to do with your supposed causes die and you are happy to see them die? Then you wonder why we don't care what the rest of the world thinks. We tried being loved, now we will settle for being feared. Oh I now what you're thinking "oh I hope those freedom loving Al-Quida nuke America" Even if they did it wouldn't change a goddamn thing, oh it may take a couple of years but even the loss of D.C. wouldn't prevent us from climbing back on top, it's what we do. or maybe you think the EU will ascend to dominate the U.S. Hate to bust your non-existant euroballs but the EU isn't going to do jack and shit. Those clowns can't even create a common agricultural policy, let alone a common foreign policy. I'll wait, German unemployment is up and will continue up once the US removes its bases, and we all know what happens when the Germans are unemployed. When you are under the boot of Franco-German facism, I for one will declare 'No Blood For Europe'.
No, in Soviet Russia the bugs report you!
No, they start a dot com, hire the same nerds they picked on (you), work you 70+ hours a week, pay you half your salary in stock options, then make millions by cashing out their stock options before the company folds, leaving the nerds with stock option toliet paper, RSI, and no money.
yeesh isn't saying Northern Iowa abit redundent?
>go work for a company that makes THINGS not IDEAS
great idea, until someone hijacks your process and builds whatever you make in China at 1/10th the cost, now your company that makes things is gone because it can't compete.
Then explain why he stands by while children are molested by His priests in His house, explain why a soul is condemned to eternal torment because they do not embrace Christian theology? After all, God is both all powerful and all knowing, right? If he knows someone will not embrace yet does nothing stop that from happening, He, Himself is condemning that person to eternal torment. If He knows that a priest is a child molester and does nothing to stop it, he is an accessory to rape. Either He is or is not all powerful and all knowing, there is no middle ground. What is the last digit of Pi? Can God create an object so massive that he cannot move it? Oh I know what you are going to say "ohh poor unbeliever, too bad you're going to hell and I'm going to heaven" and I'm sure you'll say your prayers tonight and pray that I see the light. Well, I won't, does that mean God didn't listen or that He already decided to condemn me? Let me make sure I understand this, if Cardinal Law believes in Jesus, then he gets a free pass to heaven even though he is directly or indirectly responsible for so much anguish but, Ghandi is in hell. Yeah, that's a system I wanna sign up for.
Perception of frequency ranges is determined prior to the activation of the related cortex. No amount or type of of drug is going to alter the frequency at which either the color cones in the eyes or cillia (sp) in the ears responds.
That being said, once the information has ben passed from the sensory organ to the brain all bets are off regarding the effects of drugs. Even without drugs people who have synaesthesia often report multi-modality perceptions where persons without synaesthesia report single modality perceptions (ie color coding of otherwise black and white text).
So, you worship a God that condemns a soul to eternal damnation if they don't say the magic words, but stands idly by while His priests molest little boys in His own House. Don't give me that "God works in mysterious way" line. Sorry, I cannot bring myself to worship a callous, hateful god.
> (judging by the point where it ceases to be *easy* for a child to learn to read and to learn other languages without rote memorization)
That does not necessarily identify the closure of a "learning window" since it may (or may not) have a lot to do with the wiring of the auditory cortex, language related cortex, and the neurons responsible for controlling the vocal tract.
Yeah, Saddam is their to protect the Iraqis ... ooohh and the Taliban really put the needs of the Afgani people first. Grow up.
Yeah, like the government cares about a Green Party peace activist. Ohhh she's such a threat to the 'establishment'. There has to be what, at least 100 people that care about what she has to say. Gosh I bet those evil, white men in D.C. are terrified of her. Dork.
nah, the congress critters are just looking out for themselves. After all, they don't want their love emails to their favorite girlfriends/boyfriends/farm animals to be used as blackmail material.
Yes local government is elected but those doing the electing aren't the ones doing the commuting because they live outside of London. Since I do not know what the electoral boundries are, this is only an assumtion. If I am right, then the government is assured reelection by spending the money on more police. However, you may be right, but I suspect that in a year from now the news will have reports on how much worse it has gotten and the public transportation initiatives will still be under review where they will remain until election time starts rolling around. Then they will be dusted off with much fan fair before being quietly shelved again after the election. In the mean time the traffic problem will not abate and the only thing the government will be interested is how high they can run up the charge before inciting a bloody revolt.
It's been many years since I have been to London, so bear with me if it sounds like I am talking out of my ass, 'cause I am.
What about tax abatements to encourage companies to relocate outside of this congested area? Suburbs in the US have had a pretty good track record (depending on your point of view) in getting companies to relocate. This won't solve all of the problems and I understand that some organizations cannot move (hospitals for instance). However, if the problem is too many people commuting to London then try to move their communte point out of the city. The people who can afford it will pay the fee and companies will use fee reembursement as a recruiting tool. It will be the working middle class that won't be able to afford the 25 pounds a week. I guess I don't understand why it is this group that has to pay for the city planners inability to manage growth.
> which by law must go back into London's transport system
Sure, and state lottery money in the US is supposed to go into the education budget and the tobacco settlements were supposed to pay for an anti-smoking campaign. Don't hold your breath.
> it's a step towards public transport in a big city--it's a good thing.
I disagree, it's a cash cow for the local government, once the city government sees how much money it generates, there will be no interest to boost public transportation.
Don't accept it all you want, the fact is that Chamberlin (sp?) claimed that he had secured "peace in our time" while Hitler said "I have seen our enemies at Munich and they are worms"
appeasement kills, apparently you haven't learned your lesson.
The era of "real-politic" is over. We no longer have to sit on our hands while "allies" like Saddam gas their own people and threaten the physical and economic well being of both neighbors and the world at large, because of larger geo-political concerns. The UN and NATO are becoming more and more irrelevent to American foreign policy, not because they are trying to prvent an American hemogeny, but because they are willing to trade the freedom of the Iraqi people for their own security. Oh, I know what your going to say, "it's only oil", "the Iraqi people will only trade one dictator for another", "just exercise containment". First, Iraqi oil will be the property of the Iraqi people and extracted for their benefit. Yes, Shell, BP-Amaco, Haliburton, ect will manage the extraction process, but the fields will belong to the Iraqis. Second, yeah just like in Afganistan, tell that to the girls who are going to school and the women who can now work to support their families. Three, every day we exercise containment is another day that the Iraqi people suffer.
Oh I know, "The Iraqi people are only suffering because of the big, bad, bully, Americans and their economic sanctions". The sanctions are the UN's sanctions, voted and approved by the Security Council. We get to enforce them (with the help of the Brits - thanks, mates) because no one else can. The only person to blame for the condition of the Iraqi people is Saddam.
We don't want this war, but once again the world has failed to act and we are given no choice. No one is asking you to contribute, to sacrifice, to take moral responsibility, to pull the trigger. Your objections are duly noted, now please stand aside and let us do what we have to.
Why is Russia and Frace so dead set against this? They aren't, they are just trying to pressure the US into giving them oil field concessions for their state owned oil firms. Well, we can't. We cannot make that promise, that will be up to the liberated people of Iraq.
Why that answer is simple: upper middle class, suburban, white kids.
That sounds like a really good idea and I would like to see more private, for-profit companies moving into the space technology arena, but I'm not sure that there is any profit in current space projects. What does the space program do now? It launches satellites and does basic research. While the concept of things like mining asteroids for resources and zero-g production facilities sounds great, neither will be practical any time soon. Not because we can't put facilities into orbit, but because the science, engineering, and technology (which is independent of putting them in orbit) hasn't been done or is in such an early stage that calling it a prototype is wishful thinking. In order for them to be practical, a lot of money losing research will have to be done and no company worth investing in is going to say "yes, we'll go bankrupt, but we'll be hero's". Companies are in the business of making money and without some ROI, private companies are not going into space. This isn't like building an e-commerce site for your brick-and-mortar store. Space flight is prohibitvely expensive. The start-up costs alone would bankrupt most companies. Sure some companies could join together and share the costs, but that is as bad (if not worse) then the government doing it itself. Besides if we combine accounting oversite of the SEC and the risk aversion of the FDA we'd get an organization that spent all of it's investors money and never went anywhere.
The number of landings will always equal the number of take-offs ... the only question is, can you walk away from the last one?
Why is it "obviously an american comment"? Do you deny the illegal occupation of Scotland, Ireland, and Wales? Does the term "Bloody Sunday" mean anything to you? Have you heard the term "The curse of Cromwell on you". How about "Peace in our time" and "I've seen our enemies at Munich and they are worms" Are you aware that two of the worlds most geopolitically unstable regions are due to the failure of the British Empire? Hide your head in the sand all you want, but it won't change history.
If you want to take over something, have the Germans do it for you.
Back in the late 80's early 90's when I was in, they talked about how automation would reduce the number of people needed to man a ship. What nobody ever discussed was how they were going to man the watch sections. Let's assume that you have 4 sections with 22 people each (88 total crew plus CO & XO). In port you need 3 watch standers on the quarterdeck (POOW, OOD, and messenger), one roving patrol, one engineering watch, and one engineering rover. That's 3+1+1+=6 people per watch. With 6, 4-hour watch section in port you need 36 people to cover the in port watches. Even going to 4 six hour watches, you need 24 people to cover watches. This doesn't include duty radioman, master-at-arms, CDO, shore patrol if you are OCONUS, or anything else I've forgotten. This gives us 39 (or 27). Now the khaki answer is go port/starboard (either within or between watch sections), which is fine until retention drops to zero because being port and starboard 24/7 would suck (the snipes on the Midway were rumored to be doing this). During an in port emergency, you'd be hard pressed to man all the watchs, supply 2 fire teams, SAT, and the BAF. That is just for the normal in port watches, the problem becomes even worse at anchor or in a hazardous area (ie. UAE) where extra watch standers are needed. These aren't positions that can be automated away.
Umm the Cole was not staioned in Yemen, it was there to refuel, with the permission of the government. If the citizens of a country want us to leave that is an issue between them and their government. Also, have any of these attacks ever been by nationalists? No you moron, they are done by religous fanatics. These terrorists do not speak for the citizens they pretend to represent. They represent a violent minority of Islam.
Do you really think the terrorists represent the ordinary individual? If by barracks you are refering to the bombing in Lebenon, it was carried out by Hezbollah, which is funded and controlled by Syria and Iran. If the citizens of a country have an issue with the presence of American troops, it is an issue for them to bring up with their government.