Very interesting... The original poster never said "jocks". The original poster said "abusive bullies". Yet you jumped to "jocks".
Yes, you're right. You can't group people.
I would say that 90% of high school students are abusive bullies, or aid and abet abusive bullying. There is nothing surprising in this. It's just Sturgeon's Law applied to people.
Look, they posted AC, correct? Which means they purposely avoided being contacted. And they posted in a public forum, which means anyone can quote them. Fair use.
Even if you have to remove a few comments, do so and publish the rest. I'd buy it. I'd show it to people.
This book doesn't prove anything. It doesn't show that we're all oppressed, or that we're all whiners. But it's an honest look at the collective viewpoint of geeks (as ridiculous and cheesy as that phrase has become), and it can make people think.
Publish it.
(BTW, I'm proud of you for including the MasterCard joke in one of the installments... I was hoping you'd have the guts to do that.)
and if the power goes out, i'll be kept warm by the residual heat from my workstation. "We're not going to heat the whole outside!" I kinda do... My window's almost always open...
I've actually been to the Century 25 once (or maybe twice). Don't really remember it, but it's immaterial, really, since I live in San Francisco and I have no car. Unless BART pulls up to the front entrance it's pretty much out.:-)
As for the advertising problem, I solved it by playing video games until 2min before it started.
What was funny was that they started the previews with half the projector lense blocked and everyone had to yell to get it fixed. Also, the overhead lights didn't dim until the movie itself started, and never turned all the way off.
Overall, though, my Metreon experiences have always been pretty good, and they're considerably more pleasant than the AMC 24 on Van Ness (dunno why... I do know that the walk is somewhat nicer (that means less scary people)). And once it got going it was perfectly fine.
Oh oh oh oh oh! I soooo want to see "Enemy at the Gates"!
I just saw Thirteen Days at the Metreon here in San Francisco. (Getting slightly off-topic here, I'd like to say that Thirteen Days is a very well-done movie. Go watch it, but be prepared to face mortality again. That's what I've been doing since it got out 0.5hrs ago...)
Anyway, the preview was very nicely done. Starts off showing a ring floating, spinning, et cetera, with the narrator saying the "one ring to..." poem. It had a different tone than I would have imagined, but it was nicely done. Additionally, they did some effects as the ring came to rest in a hand (whose, I don't know). It's hard to describe, but it looks like the magical powers of the Ring will be conveyed quite well.
They went on to show some epic scenes of the band wandering along. There wasn't much of Gandalf, but there was a quick shot of him slamming down his staff with some resulting lightning flashies. I recognized Legolas, Gimli, and the hobbits, plus a short narration by someone I presumed to be the Lady Galadriel, who seemed to be portrayed quite well (beautiful, poised, etc).
There were a few quick scenes with the Nazgul, as well as one breathtaking shot of a tremendously large army (of Orcs) swooping over the plains. To be quite honest, the preview itself was rather disappointing, but as the story itself is already known, it didn't matter so much. I'm looking forward to the movie(s) a lot; this did a great job of whetting my appetite.
Everything2 is kinda like this. I refer to it whenever I hit a strange word or concept. Plus it has that wonderful encyclopedia-like concept when you look up a word, and see another word, and look it up, and suddenly it's 3 hours later. E2 adds the advantage (?) of human-generated sorta random links.
I'm looking forward to it, because I was surprised (alternate tense of "supressed"?) by the period after your closing paren above. I
would have put it inside.
No, because that would have been wrong. The parentheses began while inside the sentence. Closing the sentence before the parentheses would have made things incorrectly nested.
A generic and standard way of representing any sort of data is fantastic. Any data you have can be parsed in some way with a generic parser.
Like Lisp has been able to do forever? They laugh at Lisp now and call it names.
Which is sad, because ANSI Common Lisp is orders of magnitude more advanced than pretty much everything I've seen churned out by the "industry" in years.
As far as the aesthetics of the thing go, once I started to quote things the correct way (which took about 5 minutes from the time my teacher told me the "rule") it was more aesthetically pleasing to me. That was because it wasn't stupid.
Stupid things are ugly; smart things are beautiful. That's why the Athena scrollbars are so beautiful, and Windows's are so ugly.
Plus I think it's just a matter of what you're used to.
Your use should depend on a couple of factors: whether you use "American
style" or British, and whether the material in quotation marks is, in fact, a quote of some sort.
American style is wrong.
If the material is being quoted from an original source, and that source contains punctuation
Well, duh.
The point is, if you add punctuation, then it's part of your sentence, not the quote. Therefore, it should not go inside the scope of the quotes. Duh.
Slashback tonight brings you updates on: that silly plastic barcode scanner by that company, what's-it-called... oh yeah, "Digital
Convergence;" how to spread your genetic code the polite way; and why you won't be voting on an MS-Dell-Unisys machine unless things
change from vapor to reality, soon.
Does the company's name really have a semicolon in it? No! Hint... Punctuation goes outside the quotes. I don't care who told you otherwise; they're wrong and it's stupid.
I'm actually pretty good with a gun. But my 90 yr old grandmother can't even lift one. Your solution - everyone packing a gun -
fails to take into account the large number of people who can't use one.
Yes, but what about other people on the street? Mugger accosts grandma, grandma yells, suddenly 3 guys have their guns out. Oh, he drags grandma into an alley and shoots her. Do you really think those 3 guys would let him get away after shooting grandma? I wouldn't.
Going a step further, let's say I can shoot a mugger first (a
big and highly unlikely assumption) 90% of the time. By the seventh mugging, my overall survival rate has dropped to less than
50%.
Wow, you've gotten mugged 7 times? I would've thought the muggers would have learned their lessons after the first 6...
Heck, if you assume the average mugger shoots right at the 50th percentile (which is far too low), that means 50% of the time
the victim gets shot while trying to resist
Yes, but it's a question of balancing risks. Right now robbing people carries a certain risk level. If those people started carrying guns, the risk level goes up. Obviously not everyone is going to have a gun, or use it, or be a good shot. But what are you, the mugger, going to do if suddenly there's a fairly good chance that your victim, or a bystander, will have the means and motive to fight back? Eventually you're going to give up and switch to stealing TVs from warehouses, and everyone will be happier.
10. Thouh Shalt not covet
Like have air conditioned doghouse or big houses, or need large, expensive churches.
I've always liked John Proctor's tirade in The Crucible:
"He preach nothin' but golden candlesticks until he had them. I labor the earth from dawn of day to blink of night, and I tell you true, when I look to
heaven and see my money glaring at his elbows--it hurt my prayer, sir, it hurt my prayer. I think, sometimes, the man dreams cathedrals, not
clapboard meetin' houses."
8. Thou shalt not steal.
See #10
They did that, not me.
6. Thou shalt not murder.
See Crusades, Israel, etc.
They did that, not me.
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
"Church of latter day saints", praying to virgin mary, etc.
They do that, not me.
Don't judge me by others' actions, and don't judge my beliefs by others' actions.
And yes, I screw up. You screw up. Everyone screws up. Rules shouldn't be used as a stick to beat people with ("look, I never break these rules and yooouuuu dooooo..."). Sadly, they often are, but that doesn't change the validity of the rules themselves. And the fact that Christians break the rules too shouldn't be used against Christianity, especially since one of the central beliefs of Christianity is that people's inability to follow the law shows their need for God and the way out he offered to humanity.
There ya go. Gospel in a nutshell. Mod me up, (Score:5, Informative/Insightful).
You do remember that when you took that test, you signed an agreement not to disclose the questions or the contents of your essays? No? Well, you are now in violation of the DMCA, contract law, and the Large Stupid Companies With Monopolies On "Education" Act.
But yes, it was funny, and what was funnier was the students who wrote essays explaining that Coca-Cola was totally correct, and the publisher was "rude" to them. (As an exercise, we got to grade previous classes' answers in our class.)
If you think I'm wrong, look at NT... it's all abstracted.
Well, NT used to be abstracted. NT is a sad story, really. Micros~1 got a whole bunch of top-notch engineers (Dave Cutler, the VMS guy, being probably the most famous one) and told them to make the next-generation OS.
The engineers were gung-ho about it, and designed it to be modular, abstract, and machine-independent. Management, however, was actually against these attributes and turned NT into something much less wonderful. NT used to run on x86, Alpha, MIPS, and PPC, but those were gradually killed off so that only Intel remains.
Heh, I got most of this info from a book I was browsing at the story but didn't have the money to buy. I wish I had; NT is one of the great tragedies of our day.
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Yes, you're right. You can't group people.
I would say that 90% of high school students are abusive bullies, or aid and abet abusive bullying. There is nothing surprising in this. It's just Sturgeon's Law applied to people.
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Look, they posted AC, correct? Which means they purposely avoided being contacted. And they posted in a public forum, which means anyone can quote them. Fair use.
Even if you have to remove a few comments, do so and publish the rest. I'd buy it. I'd show it to people.
This book doesn't prove anything. It doesn't show that we're all oppressed, or that we're all whiners. But it's an honest look at the collective viewpoint of geeks (as ridiculous and cheesy as that phrase has become), and it can make people think.
Publish it.
(BTW, I'm proud of you for including the MasterCard joke in one of the installments... I was hoping you'd have the guts to do that.)
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As for the advertising problem, I solved it by playing video games until 2min before it started.
What was funny was that they started the previews with half the projector lense blocked and everyone had to yell to get it fixed. Also, the overhead lights didn't dim until the movie itself started, and never turned all the way off.
Overall, though, my Metreon experiences have always been pretty good, and they're considerably more pleasant than the AMC 24 on Van Ness (dunno why... I do know that the walk is somewhat nicer (that means less scary people)). And once it got going it was perfectly fine.
Oh oh oh oh oh! I soooo want to see "Enemy at the Gates"!
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Anyway, the preview was very nicely done. Starts off showing a ring floating, spinning, et cetera, with the narrator saying the "one ring to..." poem. It had a different tone than I would have imagined, but it was nicely done. Additionally, they did some effects as the ring came to rest in a hand (whose, I don't know). It's hard to describe, but it looks like the magical powers of the Ring will be conveyed quite well.
They went on to show some epic scenes of the band wandering along. There wasn't much of Gandalf, but there was a quick shot of him slamming down his staff with some resulting lightning flashies. I recognized Legolas, Gimli, and the hobbits, plus a short narration by someone I presumed to be the Lady Galadriel, who seemed to be portrayed quite well (beautiful, poised, etc).
There were a few quick scenes with the Nazgul, as well as one breathtaking shot of a tremendously large army (of Orcs) swooping over the plains. To be quite honest, the preview itself was rather disappointing, but as the story itself is already known, it didn't matter so much. I'm looking forward to the movie(s) a lot; this did a great job of whetting my appetite.
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No, because that would have been wrong. The parentheses began while inside the sentence. Closing the sentence before the parentheses would have made things incorrectly nested.
Duh.
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Like Lisp has been able to do forever? They laugh at Lisp now and call it names.
Which is sad, because ANSI Common Lisp is orders of magnitude more advanced than pretty much everything I've seen churned out by the "industry" in years.
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As far as the aesthetics of the thing go, once I started to quote things the correct way (which took about 5 minutes from the time my teacher told me the "rule") it was more aesthetically pleasing to me. That was because it wasn't stupid.
Stupid things are ugly; smart things are beautiful. That's why the Athena scrollbars are so beautiful, and Windows's are so ugly.
Plus I think it's just a matter of what you're used to.
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American style is wrong.
Well, duh.
The point is, if you add punctuation, then it's part of your sentence, not the quote. Therefore, it should not go inside the scope of the quotes. Duh.
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Weren't you listening? They're wrong, and it's stupid.
What the other guy said.
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Does the company's name really have a semicolon in it? No! Hint... Punctuation goes outside the quotes. I don't care who told you otherwise; they're wrong and it's stupid.
Oh, and it's "Digital:Convergence". I:think.
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Yes, but what about other people on the street? Mugger accosts grandma, grandma yells, suddenly 3 guys have their guns out. Oh, he drags grandma into an alley and shoots her. Do you really think those 3 guys would let him get away after shooting grandma? I wouldn't.
Wow, you've gotten mugged 7 times? I would've thought the muggers would have learned their lessons after the first 6...
Yes, but it's a question of balancing risks. Right now robbing people carries a certain risk level. If those people started carrying guns, the risk level goes up. Obviously not everyone is going to have a gun, or use it, or be a good shot. But what are you, the mugger, going to do if suddenly there's a fairly good chance that your victim, or a bystander, will have the means and motive to fight back? Eventually you're going to give up and switch to stealing TVs from warehouses, and everyone will be happier.
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I've always liked John Proctor's tirade in The Crucible:
"He preach nothin' but golden candlesticks until he had them. I labor the earth from dawn of day to blink of night, and I tell you true, when I look to heaven and see my money glaring at his elbows--it hurt my prayer, sir, it hurt my prayer. I think, sometimes, the man dreams cathedrals, not clapboard meetin' houses."
They did that, not me.
They did that, not me.
They do that, not me.
Don't judge me by others' actions, and don't judge my beliefs by others' actions.
And yes, I screw up. You screw up. Everyone screws up. Rules shouldn't be used as a stick to beat people with ("look, I never break these rules and yooouuuu dooooo..."). Sadly, they often are, but that doesn't change the validity of the rules themselves. And the fact that Christians break the rules too shouldn't be used against Christianity, especially since one of the central beliefs of Christianity is that people's inability to follow the law shows their need for God and the way out he offered to humanity.
There ya go. Gospel in a nutshell. Mod me up, (Score:5, Informative/Insightful).
Whoops, I coveted karma. You see?!
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But yes, it was funny, and what was funnier was the students who wrote essays explaining that Coca-Cola was totally correct, and the publisher was "rude" to them. (As an exercise, we got to grade previous classes' answers in our class.)
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No it isn't. The sentence isn't wrong just because you can't grasp anything beyond a literal statement arranged as subject-verb-object.
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Well, NT used to be abstracted. NT is a sad story, really. Micros~1 got a whole bunch of top-notch engineers (Dave Cutler, the VMS guy, being probably the most famous one) and told them to make the next-generation OS.
The engineers were gung-ho about it, and designed it to be modular, abstract, and machine-independent. Management, however, was actually against these attributes and turned NT into something much less wonderful. NT used to run on x86, Alpha, MIPS, and PPC, but those were gradually killed off so that only Intel remains.
Heh, I got most of this info from a book I was browsing at the story but didn't have the money to buy. I wish I had; NT is one of the great tragedies of our day.
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