I really wish the term "scripting language" would die. Can't we just call them "very high level" languages, instead? Isn't that sufficient to distinguish the Perls, Pythons, and Rubys of the world from the "high level" languages like C and C++? It is perfectly possible to compile Python programs, for example, to a pyc binary. They aren't any more "scripts" than a.out. The difference between "very high" and "high," to me, is the fact that dynamic datastructures (lists, hashes) are native, so programmers don't have to worry about mundane memory address and pointer nonsense.
Ford has a problem in that, buggies are a "traditional" thing. Most of the buggies are for personal transportation. I mean, there's more to a buggy than a means of transportation. Buggies have a tradition that goes back hundreds of years--the wheel goes back thousands. There is a whole horse culture floating out there, waiting for you to join it. For a brief time, on a buggy, you do.
Yes, you could argue, that the car is faster and more efficient. But what of it? A buggy by itself is something that works well enough for you to get where you want and to travel for a few hours, and you get the smell and feel of the horse's ass, the immediacy, history, and intimacy. A car is just another iron appliance, lacking in craft.
It is a big deal because communicable diseases, such as HPV and Polio, affect the entire society. In a democracy, if there is widespread disinformation about vaccinations, they will no longer be made mandatory. A voluntary lack of vaccination by the more reckless and stupid members of our society will eventually lead YOU AND ME to pay for the medical and social costs associated with higher-than-necessary rates of diseases like cancer.
We now have the technology to eliminate one of the most common forms of cancer through mandatory vaccination, but there are people actively fighting this due their own ignorance! If we all lived on separate islands and never interacted with eachother, the philosophical argument could be made against mandatory vaccination. But we don't. We live in a society where every decision we make affects other people, so we must be pragmatic instead of idealistic when it comes to contagious disease.
Monsanto is improving the efficiency of agriculture (=feeding more hungry people!) and trying to protect their investment through both legal and technical means. How can you call that "pure evil?"
Unless you can suggest a better way for them to protect their investment, you can't really criticize them for doing what they must the only way they know how...
No such device exists. If non-volatile memory (such as a flash boot drive) becomes corrupted from a software update, then another software update could reverse this situation and make the device functional again. It may require physically touching the pins on the chip, instead of using the normal interface, but no device can be bricked via software using your (wrong) definition.
Wow. Thank you. That nullifies the entire article. This should be the only +5 comment in the thread, and everything else should be modded to -1 (including this post).
I was responding to "The fact of the matter is anybody who graduates undergrad and expects to be making $50k out of the gate is dreaming"
And I imagine a PhD in history makes $60-$90 with awesome benefits IF he lands a teaching job at a university. If not, he makes whatever he can in tips.
Universities are geared to produce academics, rather than workers (for lack of a better word). If one wants a vocational curriculum, then they should go to the proper school for that; universities, on the other hand, focus on research.
That sounds like a bullshit excuse from a lazy academic. You just implied that the 50% of high school grads who go to universities are doing so to become professors or researchers. What planet are you from? Universities are expected to produce academics AND skilled professionals. How many engineers do you know who went to trade school instead of universities? Every practicing engineer (and engineering manager) I know thinks the University curriculum is out of touch with reality.
That AVERAGE computer engineering graduate makes $55k right out of school with a BS. The best of my friends started at $67k. This is from a public university.
Believe it or not, but the majority of talented people (and people in general) don't have the disposition to spend the entirety of their twenties in school. I was quite pleased with myself for having no debt, a sports car, a luxury apartment, and some world travel by the time I was 24. Majoring in something else and having to wait until 30 to live life seems miserable to me. Some of my friends are STILL in med school with $90k in debt, and I am managing a $90k stock portfolio! I do whatever I want with my weekends and evenings, while they study. I'm no fluke-- I'm just a B student who studied something with a real market demand.
Currently, very few majors enable talented people who prefer life to grad school to put their abilities to full use. I hope Bio can soon be one of those fields. There is so much potential in things like genetic analysis. I know people who stopped school after a BS in Bio, and their jobs aren't that great, which is a shame because they are both quite intelligent.
Academia in general is out of touch with the needs of the economy. A real understanding of applied probability and statistics would help more than just scientists, I'm sure. IT curricula put heavy emphasis on algorithmic analysis and almost none on actually producing software.
If I were in charge, I would make private industry experience mandatory for anyone on a curriculum planning board.
As for how to "push up" salaries, I only mean to say that new industries like personal DNA analysis would increase the demand for the specialized skills of bio majors. If the field becomes more lucrative, more of the best and brightest will get in to it, paving the way for a future of health and plenty.
For people who like the ability to support their families well, travel the world, or just escape their college debt, salary is a primary concern when choosing a field of study.
Intellectual passions can be explored without committing to a life of poverty. Libraries and amateur groups exist for a reason.
Doctors? Medical school? I'm talking about a BS--four years of school. That's the only way you can compare it to the in-demand scientific degrees--where a four year investment yields almost double the median national income.
The vast majority of people do not have the disposition to spend all of their twenties in school. For this majority, the merits of a Ph.D are irrelevant. Too many bio grads end up taking careers unrelated to their degrees.
Did you only look in your own town? All of my college buddies have BSEs from a reputable engineering school (Ohio State), and their starting salaries were ($55k - $67k). People with just BSs, or worse, BAs seem to make a bit less, it seems.
Here's an excerpt from a 2004 CNN article--salaries have grown a LOT since 2004, mind you:
Engineering majors are seeing the most cash -- though with narrow percentage changes from last year -- led by gains from chemical engineering graduates, who now earn $52,539 a year on average, up 0.3 percent from a year earlier. Computer engineering graduates follow closely behind with $51,297, a 0.1 percent decrease from last year.
Those graduating with a degree in computer science are seeing heartier increases. According to NACE, information sciences and systems grads earn $42,375 a year on average. That's up 10.7 percent from a year earlier. Meanwhile, computer science graduates make $49,036 a year, a gain of 4.1 percent.
So yes, you are making quite a bit less than average. In fact, you're making less than a truck driver. The experience you are gaining could prove to be more valuable in the long run, however.
If I were you I would go after certifications or something to grow the resume, while checking the job-hunting sites in areas with better local economies than wherever you are.
As a science junkie (but engineer by day), it seems apparent that genetics technology could be as big as (if not bigger) than computer technology has been for the past twenty years. The problem is, someone with a BS in Software Engineering or Computer Science will start out making $50-%70k, while someone with a BS in Biology will only make about $30k. With those kinds of numbers, a scientifically inclined undergrad would be making a huge gamble by selecting Bio as a major.
My hope is that services like this will start to provide jobs for our current Bio grads, pushing the salaries up to a level that makes the choice of a Biology major much more desirable. Only then will the genetic revolution really start to take off.
They also would have purchased mortgage-backed securities to finance their next mission, and would now be canceling it due to the credit crunch. But before Wall Street discovered the mortgages were junk, NASA management would have paid themselves huge bonuses for that extra 2% cashflow they imagined up...
If you've been paying any attention to the markets, you would know the golden rule is "he who sold his gold a few days ago and bought stocks makes the rules."
Good news, everyone! Computer programming pays a metric assload more money than human language translation. Being better at coding than at speaking multiple languages is a gift, not a problem.
That's totally understandable. So, on behalf of the rest of the Internet, I welcome you to the 1990s! May your enter key relax and your column width be variable.
It is also the executive branch's job to nominate supreme court justices--who interpret the law and the constitution. Because of this, the Presidency has far more power than simply enforcing the law .
Ron Paul only defends part of the constitution--states' rights. He effectively attacks the rest of it. He would NOT use the federal government to protect your civil rights. He would leave that to the states. If he were in power in the sixties, desegregation never would have happened and minority groups would still be attending unequal, underfunded schools. Ron Paul would idly allow the more bigoted state governments to assault gay rights, science education, and womens' rights.
His supporters are so affected by their religious devotion to him that they assume his libertarian views would help protect civil liverties--but the truth is quite the opposite.
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I really wish the term "scripting language" would die. Can't we just call them "very high level" languages, instead? Isn't that sufficient to distinguish the Perls, Pythons, and Rubys of the world from the "high level" languages like C and C++? It is perfectly possible to compile Python programs, for example, to a pyc binary. They aren't any more "scripts" than a.out. The difference between "very high" and "high," to me, is the fact that dynamic datastructures (lists, hashes) are native, so programmers don't have to worry about mundane memory address and pointer nonsense.
Ford has a problem in that, buggies are a "traditional" thing. Most of the buggies are for personal transportation. I mean, there's more to a buggy than a means of transportation. Buggies have a tradition that goes back hundreds of years--the wheel goes back thousands. There is a whole horse culture floating out there, waiting for you to join it. For a brief time, on a buggy, you do.
Yes, you could argue, that the car is faster and more efficient. But what of it? A buggy by itself is something that works well enough for you to get where you want and to travel for a few hours, and you get the smell and feel of the horse's ass, the immediacy, history, and intimacy. A car is just another iron appliance, lacking in craft.
I've always has the impression that slashdot posts stupid articles on hot topics because it is a little more subtle than saying "Kindle: Discuss."
Slashdot is a discussion site, not a news site, if you haven't realized yet.
HPV is capable of quickly spreading through human interaction. Humans have sex. It is our nature.
It is a big deal because communicable diseases, such as HPV and Polio, affect the entire society. In a democracy, if there is widespread disinformation about vaccinations, they will no longer be made mandatory. A voluntary lack of vaccination by the more reckless and stupid members of our society will eventually lead YOU AND ME to pay for the medical and social costs associated with higher-than-necessary rates of diseases like cancer.
We now have the technology to eliminate one of the most common forms of cancer through mandatory vaccination, but there are people actively fighting this due their own ignorance! If we all lived on separate islands and never interacted with eachother, the philosophical argument could be made against mandatory vaccination. But we don't. We live in a society where every decision we make affects other people, so we must be pragmatic instead of idealistic when it comes to contagious disease.
Monsanto is improving the efficiency of agriculture (=feeding more hungry people!) and trying to protect their investment through both legal and technical means. How can you call that "pure evil?"
Unless you can suggest a better way for them to protect their investment, you can't really criticize them for doing what they must the only way they know how...
No such device exists. If non-volatile memory (such as a flash boot drive) becomes corrupted from a software update, then another software update could reverse this situation and make the device functional again. It may require physically touching the pins on the chip, instead of using the normal interface, but no device can be bricked via software using your (wrong) definition.
I was responding to "The fact of the matter is anybody who graduates undergrad and expects to be making $50k out of the gate is dreaming"
And I imagine a PhD in history makes $60-$90 with awesome benefits IF he lands a teaching job at a university. If not, he makes whatever he can in tips.
That AVERAGE computer engineering graduate makes $55k right out of school with a BS. The best of my friends started at $67k. This is from a public university.
Believe it or not, but the majority of talented people (and people in general) don't have the disposition to spend the entirety of their twenties in school. I was quite pleased with myself for having no debt, a sports car, a luxury apartment, and some world travel by the time I was 24. Majoring in something else and having to wait until 30 to live life seems miserable to me. Some of my friends are STILL in med school with $90k in debt, and I am managing a $90k stock portfolio! I do whatever I want with my weekends and evenings, while they study. I'm no fluke-- I'm just a B student who studied something with a real market demand.
Currently, very few majors enable talented people who prefer life to grad school to put their abilities to full use. I hope Bio can soon be one of those fields. There is so much potential in things like genetic analysis. I know people who stopped school after a BS in Bio, and their jobs aren't that great, which is a shame because they are both quite intelligent.
Academia in general is out of touch with the needs of the economy. A real understanding of applied probability and statistics would help more than just scientists, I'm sure. IT curricula put heavy emphasis on algorithmic analysis and almost none on actually producing software.
If I were in charge, I would make private industry experience mandatory for anyone on a curriculum planning board.
As for how to "push up" salaries, I only mean to say that new industries like personal DNA analysis would increase the demand for the specialized skills of bio majors. If the field becomes more lucrative, more of the best and brightest will get in to it, paving the way for a future of health and plenty.
For people who like the ability to support their families well, travel the world, or just escape their college debt, salary is a primary concern when choosing a field of study.
Intellectual passions can be explored without committing to a life of poverty. Libraries and amateur groups exist for a reason.
Doctors? Medical school? I'm talking about a BS--four years of school. That's the only way you can compare it to the in-demand scientific degrees--where a four year investment yields almost double the median national income.
The vast majority of people do not have the disposition to spend all of their twenties in school. For this majority, the merits of a Ph.D are irrelevant. Too many bio grads end up taking careers unrelated to their degrees.
Here's an excerpt from a 2004 CNN article--salaries have grown a LOT since 2004, mind you:
So yes, you are making quite a bit less than average. In fact, you're making less than a truck driver. The experience you are gaining could prove to be more valuable in the long run, however.
If I were you I would go after certifications or something to grow the resume, while checking the job-hunting sites in areas with better local economies than wherever you are.
In NASA's case, I don't think the market for manned space vessels and science vessels is large enough for free market forces to work.
As a science junkie (but engineer by day), it seems apparent that genetics technology could be as big as (if not bigger) than computer technology has been for the past twenty years. The problem is, someone with a BS in Software Engineering or Computer Science will start out making $50-%70k, while someone with a BS in Biology will only make about $30k. With those kinds of numbers, a scientifically inclined undergrad would be making a huge gamble by selecting Bio as a major.
My hope is that services like this will start to provide jobs for our current Bio grads, pushing the salaries up to a level that makes the choice of a Biology major much more desirable. Only then will the genetic revolution really start to take off.
They also would have purchased mortgage-backed securities to finance their next mission, and would now be canceling it due to the credit crunch. But before Wall Street discovered the mortgages were junk, NASA management would have paid themselves huge bonuses for that extra 2% cashflow they imagined up...
Personally, I'm just glad Fry got to nail Amy... gives me hope...
If you've been paying any attention to the markets, you would know the golden rule is "he who sold his gold a few days ago and bought stocks makes the rules."
Good news, everyone! Computer programming pays a metric assload more money than human language translation. Being better at coding than at speaking multiple languages is a gift, not a problem.
Actually, you are supposed to place apostrophes right over their.
That's totally understandable. So, on behalf of the rest of the Internet, I welcome you to the 1990s! May your enter key relax and your column width be variable.
It is also the executive branch's job to nominate supreme court justices--who interpret the law and the constitution. Because of this, the Presidency has far more power than simply enforcing the law .
Ron Paul only defends part of the constitution--states' rights. He effectively attacks the rest of it. He would NOT use the federal government to protect your civil rights. He would leave that to the states. If he were in power in the sixties, desegregation never would have happened and minority groups would still be attending unequal, underfunded schools. Ron Paul would idly allow the more bigoted state governments to assault gay rights, science education, and womens' rights.
His supporters are so affected by their religious devotion to him that they assume his libertarian views would help protect civil liverties--but the truth is quite the opposite.