Just go watch the video I linked and the other ones in the series, they do a great job of explaining many common climate myth, both from the skeptics side as well as the believers. And if you have any info explaining the errors in the video I linked I would love to read them.
Oh I know, the guys that resigned their positions at the IPCC are still credited by the IPCC as belonging to the 2500 scientists. I mean clearly the guys in the video I linked to are idiots, I mean, who the hell would listen to multiple university professors anyway right? Let alone the countless sources they referenced in the interviews.
I too found it humorous that the one professor had to sue the IPCC to get his name removed from their list after they refused to present his findings (which were contrary to their position that AGW is real), and tried to claim he supported their lies.
Just open your eyes and see the lies being used to generate record profits. Oh, and maybe read up on what the IPCC says on the subject. There are plenty of articles on the subject at BBC, CNN, Aljazeera, etc.
The fact is that the CO2 that humans put into the atmosphere is infinitesimal compared to volcanoes and the oceans.
Not quite. Read on McDuff. And look, even more refutation.
Are we done with this canard yet?
The percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is currently measured to be 0.038%. A staggering 0.28% of that is directly attributable to human beings. I can keep this up as long and probably longer than you can...
It's really a shame that people believe politics over science.
You are confusing "green marketing" with science. The first one happens to be full of crap, but well, what do you expect from marketing? That however doesn't make the issue they peddle to a non-issue, climate scientist will tell you quite the opposite, CO2 is an issue and current evidence points to a man made climate change, go watch this and educate yourself.
Real scientists will laugh at you for claiming CO2 is an issue, as the oceans and volcanoes emit several orders of magnitude more CO2 than humans ever could.
I'll see your enlightened video link and raise you one.
The 1/2 of a degree Celsius change that started a little over 100 years ago mostly occurred before much of the modern CO2 emitting manufacturing plants ever existed. How anyone can argue against science and claim we are DOOOOOOOOOOMED is beyond me, and I generally treat such individuals as mentally handicapped.
The terms green and CO2 are being tossed around as blatant lies to convince people to spend more to get the the same, or in cases like this, to get nothing at all.
It's really a shame that people believe politics over science. It makes me a cynic. Someone obviously decided to buy these "green" ice resurfacing machines because it made them feel like they were doing "their part" to help the environment. The problem is they were sold a lie. Not only were they sold a lie, but a non-functioning lie as well.
Seriously people, CO2 emissions are nothing to be afraid of. CO2 emissions are nothing you should be paying extra to decrease. The fact is that the CO2 that humans put into the atmosphere is infinitesimal compared to volcanoes and the oceans.
Sugar coated tyranny is still tyranny. You're obviously the pussy as you have been brainwashed into thinking we're not under attack domestically by tyrants in government.
How exactly is it trolling to point out a completely bullshit marketing point, and mock it?
Get a sense of humor, or learn the facts about CO2. Maybe both.
Forget about hips or knees (which are amazingly well suited for walking upright, by the way). Look at male nipples. There is nothing intelligent or "by design" about it. Unless we are talking about a very incompetent designer.
The pairing of X and Y chromosomes is interesting. I imagine that during the pairing the code goes through some interesting polymorphism determined by the pair type. I would also put money on nipple code being stored in both X and Y chromosomes for redundancy. I'd guess a lot of our base code (code *required* to procreate) is redundant between chromosomes.
That's not correct at all. If the BBC said that, then they are wrong.
The information came from an Indian scientist, reported be New Scientist. No it should not be use as an example of the effects of Global Warming, but it in no way invalidates the science. By the way the people claiming this isn't true are also basing that on a non peer reviewed paper.
See, it's a tad more complex then a simpleton like you can conceive, so you have broken it down to a boolean thinking.
SO tell me, after you read the IPCC which, specifically, part of the science is 'SHITE"? You have read it, right? No? STFU
What the fuck ever cocksmear. Please explain how you get relevant, unbiased, aka useful data from instruments placed on tar roofs, near restaurant kitchen exhausts, or on a concrete sidewalk.
I'll tell you which part of the CRU data is SHIT: the entire set. I know so from reading the report UCB put out on their findings of the conditions of the instruments.
I recommend pedaling your snake-oil somewhere other than/. you jackass.
that "We the People..." should take up arms against those who would destroy us from the inside. It is not only my right; my responsibility; it's my obligation to my fellow countrymen, and future generations of US Americans.
I happen to believe in God. However, I respect, and understand the reasons for keeping God out of education (one exception I would make is for private schools, which are opt-in).
History is history because it took place in the past. The past is unchangeable, and thus, re-writing history is the same as lying. In this case I would call the people re-writing the history of our once great country's politics one thing: tyrannical. Their motivations are clearly oppressive.
Everyone in the US should know that it's completely legal to kill tyrants. Everyone should know that it's their responsibility. The more we let the tyrants do this to us, the less we deserve the rights to freedom and liberty that they are stealing from us.
You can have my guns, my freedom, my rights, and my liberty AFTER you pry them from my cold, dead hands.
Sounds like India intends to continue to use coal fired power plants and will not recognize studies that put coal plants in a bad light.
Where have I heard that before?
Sounds like you'd rather have someone waving their arms around chanting some mystical mumbo-jumbo than someone that understands the value and merits of the scientific method.
Because that's exactly what the CRU data is: mystical mumbo-jumbo. That entire set should have been tossed after Berkley discovered that they placed the majority of their instrumentation in areas outside of specification.
I am a citizen of the United States of America, and as such I will gladly lay down my life if necessary to defend my right life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness. I will also gladly end the life of any tyrant that tries to rob me or my family of these rights.
So help me understand. Either
1. You feel your and your family's "liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness" are not infringed upon -- in which case your post about tyrants seems a bit disconnected, or
2. You do feel that your and your family's "liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness" are infringed upon -- in which case I assume you are currently risking life and limb trying to "kill the tyrants", or
3. I misunderstood your comments.
Which is it?
I don't play straw-man argument games.
My position has been stated, and reiterated for clarity. If you missed something I suggest re-reading my posts.
Every citizen should be willing to die for their liberty and freedom. I said it before, the cost of these gifts is paid for in blood.
Without dodging the question, are you willing?
I am a citizen of the United States of America, and as such I will gladly lay down my life if necessary to defend my right life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness. I will also gladly end the life of any tyrant that tries to rob me or my family of these rights.
Note that the Tohoku group grew graphene on silicon while IBM produced graphene transistors on silicon carbide. These are complementary efforts, not competing ones.
They may be, however, one produced a physical product and the other was a paper on how it might work.
The other day we discussed what sounds like similar research by a group of scientists at Tohoku University; that team did not produce transistors, however.
Surely that is some sort of joke. From the summary of the Tokyo University article:
A new paper entitled Epitaxial Graphene on Silicon toward Graphene-Silicon Fusion Electronics published by a group of physicists at Tohoku University in Japan has demonstrated that they can grow graphene on a silicon substrate and pair that technique with conventional lithography to create a graphene-on-silicon field effect transistor.
Not to mention that article is a myriad of highly moderated comments admonishing the staleness of graphene on silicon transistors.
From reading what you quoted, it's not certain that Tohoku produced anything, at least not a graphene transistor. They did however demonstrate that they can grow graphene on a silicon substrate, and that they can pair that technique with conventional lithography to create a graphene-on-silicon field effect transistor. It's just not clear that they did create a graphene transistor, or at least anything comparable to what IBM apparently is producing.
Sounds like you are making a very good case for the police to monitor YOUR communications - you speak exactly like a terrorist.
You sound like someone who might want to bomb government buildings in the name of liberty.
I hope the authorities ARE keeping a file on you.:-)
So says the anonymous coward.
I believe what I said, and I am blessed with the right to say it solely due to others that believed the same.
Tyrants must be put to death. If you don't put them to death, you don't deserve the basic rights, freedoms, and liberties that they will rob you of. It saddens me that people either don't know this or need to be reminded of it. These rights and freedoms are gifts to us that have been paid for with blood.
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Real scientists will laugh at you for claiming CO2 is an issue,
Where can I read their papers? If they are real scientists they must have published their findings, right?
I'll see your enlightened video link and raise you one.
Sorry, but videos made by people that fabricated their data and misquoted scientists in a fraudulent way don't impress me much. They even tried to sue the misquoted scientist with the notorious UK libel laws after he complained, great way to react to criticism...
Just go watch the video I linked and the other ones in the series, they do a great job of explaining many common climate myth, both from the skeptics side as well as the believers. And if you have any info explaining the errors in the video I linked I would love to read them.
Oh I know, the guys that resigned their positions at the IPCC are still credited by the IPCC as belonging to the 2500 scientists. I mean clearly the guys in the video I linked to are idiots, I mean, who the hell would listen to multiple university professors anyway right? Let alone the countless sources they referenced in the interviews.
I too found it humorous that the one professor had to sue the IPCC to get his name removed from their list after they refused to present his findings (which were contrary to their position that AGW is real), and tried to claim he supported their lies.
"The fact is that the CO2 that humans put into the atmosphere is infinitesimal compared to volcanoes and the oceans." Complete and total lie.
Funny how the scientists don't agree.
Source?
Just open your eyes and see the lies being used to generate record profits. Oh, and maybe read up on what the IPCC says on the subject. There are plenty of articles on the subject at BBC, CNN, Aljazeera, etc.
And if you're too lazy to read: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs
The fact is that the CO2 that humans put into the atmosphere is infinitesimal compared to volcanoes and the oceans. Not quite. Read on McDuff. And look, even more refutation. Are we done with this canard yet?
Yes quite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs
The percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is currently measured to be 0.038%. A staggering 0.28% of that is directly attributable to human beings. I can keep this up as long and probably longer than you can...
It's really a shame that people believe politics over science.
You are confusing "green marketing" with science. The first one happens to be full of crap, but well, what do you expect from marketing? That however doesn't make the issue they peddle to a non-issue, climate scientist will tell you quite the opposite, CO2 is an issue and current evidence points to a man made climate change, go watch this and educate yourself.
Real scientists will laugh at you for claiming CO2 is an issue, as the oceans and volcanoes emit several orders of magnitude more CO2 than humans ever could. I'll see your enlightened video link and raise you one.
Ice core samples have shown that temperature increases first, then CO2 levels rise in response.
The Great Climate Change Swindle
The 1/2 of a degree Celsius change that started a little over 100 years ago mostly occurred before much of the modern CO2 emitting manufacturing plants ever existed. How anyone can argue against science and claim we are DOOOOOOOOOOMED is beyond me, and I generally treat such individuals as mentally handicapped.
The terms green and CO2 are being tossed around as blatant lies to convince people to spend more to get the the same, or in cases like this, to get nothing at all.
It's really a shame that people believe politics over science. It makes me a cynic. Someone obviously decided to buy these "green" ice resurfacing machines because it made them feel like they were doing "their part" to help the environment. The problem is they were sold a lie. Not only were they sold a lie, but a non-functioning lie as well.
Seriously people, CO2 emissions are nothing to be afraid of. CO2 emissions are nothing you should be paying extra to decrease. The fact is that the CO2 that humans put into the atmosphere is infinitesimal compared to volcanoes and the oceans.
"This video contains content from Sony Pictures, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."
You insensitive clod.
Strange, I can view both videos.
Sugar coated tyranny is still tyranny. You're obviously the pussy as you have been brainwashed into thinking we're not under attack domestically by tyrants in government.
How exactly is it trolling to point out a completely bullshit marketing point, and mock it? Get a sense of humor, or learn the facts about CO2. Maybe both.
The Great Global Warming Swindle
Fucking assholes. The printer I'm getting ready to market kills less kittens.
SO TAKE THAT!
Forget about hips or knees (which are amazingly well suited for walking upright, by the way). Look at male nipples. There is nothing intelligent or "by design" about it. Unless we are talking about a very incompetent designer.
The pairing of X and Y chromosomes is interesting. I imagine that during the pairing the code goes through some interesting polymorphism determined by the pair type. I would also put money on nipple code being stored in both X and Y chromosomes for redundancy. I'd guess a lot of our base code (code *required* to procreate) is redundant between chromosomes.
Redundancy is good.
That's not correct at all. If the BBC said that, then they are wrong.
The information came from an Indian scientist, reported be New Scientist. No it should not be use as an example of the effects of Global Warming, but it in no way invalidates the science. By the way the people claiming this isn't true are also basing that on a non peer reviewed paper.
See, it's a tad more complex then a simpleton like you can conceive, so you have broken it down to a boolean thinking.
SO tell me, after you read the IPCC which, specifically, part of the science is 'SHITE"? You have read it, right? No? STFU
What the fuck ever cocksmear. Please explain how you get relevant, unbiased, aka useful data from instruments placed on tar roofs, near restaurant kitchen exhausts, or on a concrete sidewalk.
I'll tell you which part of the CRU data is SHIT: the entire set. I know so from reading the report UCB put out on their findings of the conditions of the instruments.
I recommend pedaling your snake-oil somewhere other than /. you jackass.
that "We the People..." should take up arms against those who would destroy us from the inside. It is not only my right; my responsibility; it's my obligation to my fellow countrymen, and future generations of US Americans.
I happen to believe in God. However, I respect, and understand the reasons for keeping God out of education (one exception I would make is for private schools, which are opt-in).
History is history because it took place in the past. The past is unchangeable, and thus, re-writing history is the same as lying. In this case I would call the people re-writing the history of our once great country's politics one thing: tyrannical. Their motivations are clearly oppressive.
Everyone in the US should know that it's completely legal to kill tyrants. Everyone should know that it's their responsibility. The more we let the tyrants do this to us, the less we deserve the rights to freedom and liberty that they are stealing from us.
You can have my guns, my freedom, my rights, and my liberty AFTER you pry them from my cold, dead hands.
Sounds like India intends to continue to use coal fired power plants and will not recognize studies that put coal plants in a bad light.
Where have I heard that before?
Sounds like you'd rather have someone waving their arms around chanting some mystical mumbo-jumbo than someone that understands the value and merits of the scientific method.
Because that's exactly what the CRU data is: mystical mumbo-jumbo. That entire set should have been tossed after Berkley discovered that they placed the majority of their instrumentation in areas outside of specification.
I wish we had more people like that in government in the US.
So help me understand. Either 1. You feel your and your family's "liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness" are not infringed upon -- in which case your post about tyrants seems a bit disconnected, or 2. You do feel that your and your family's "liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness" are infringed upon -- in which case I assume you are currently risking life and limb trying to "kill the tyrants", or 3. I misunderstood your comments.
Which is it?
I don't play straw-man argument games.
My position has been stated, and reiterated for clarity. If you missed something I suggest re-reading my posts.
Without dodging the question, are you willing?
I am a citizen of the United States of America, and as such I will gladly lay down my life if necessary to defend my right life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness. I will also gladly end the life of any tyrant that tries to rob me or my family of these rights.
Your move.
Oh? So what are they using in the year 2242 as a stop-gap measure until quantum computing gets to the desktop?
Unfortunately divulging any information other than you are wrong would be a violation of the Temporal Prime Directive.
Note that the Tohoku group grew graphene on silicon while IBM produced graphene transistors on silicon carbide. These are complementary efforts, not competing ones.
They may be, however, one produced a physical product and the other was a paper on how it might work.
Year 2173:
"Hidrogen-Unobtanium polycomposites seems like a viable replacement until quantum computing gets to desktop."
I came here from the year 2242 to tell you that you're wrong.
The other day we discussed what sounds like similar research by a group of scientists at Tohoku University; that team did not produce transistors, however.
Surely that is some sort of joke. From the summary of the Tokyo University article:
A new paper entitled Epitaxial Graphene on Silicon toward Graphene-Silicon Fusion Electronics published by a group of physicists at Tohoku University in Japan has demonstrated that they can grow graphene on a silicon substrate and pair that technique with conventional lithography to create a graphene-on-silicon field effect transistor.
Not to mention that article is a myriad of highly moderated comments admonishing the staleness of graphene on silicon transistors.
From reading what you quoted, it's not certain that Tohoku produced anything, at least not a graphene transistor. They did however demonstrate that they can grow graphene on a silicon substrate, and that they can pair that technique with conventional lithography to create a graphene-on-silicon field effect transistor. It's just not clear that they did create a graphene transistor, or at least anything comparable to what IBM apparently is producing.
Are you willing to set a personal example? Are you ready to be a martyr for your cause?
If not: Do you expect somebody else to do that in your stead? Do you really believe anything will change?
Every citizen should be willing to die for their liberty and freedom. I said it before, the cost of these gifts is paid for in blood.
Sounds like you are making a very good case for the police to monitor YOUR communications - you speak exactly like a terrorist.
You sound like someone who might want to bomb government buildings in the name of liberty.
I hope the authorities ARE keeping a file on you. :-)
So says the anonymous coward.
I believe what I said, and I am blessed with the right to say it solely due to others that believed the same.
Tyrants must be put to death. If you don't put them to death, you don't deserve the basic rights, freedoms, and liberties that they will rob you of. It saddens me that people either don't know this or need to be reminded of it. These rights and freedoms are gifts to us that have been paid for with blood.
that was a typo and should have read:
need to be put to death.
It's the very foundation of this society.