Except for the state of emergency from 1975 until 1977, elected parliament has always been in power in India. Having a treaty with the Soviet Union has nothing to do with being democratic or not.
maybe if linux users were not just all anti-copyright thieves and pirates, [...]
Hi, I am a Linux user and I am anti-copyright and anti-"Intellectual Property" in general. But I have never stolen anything nor raided any ships. Oh, you mean illegal copying of software... Well, since I use Linux I do not need to make illegal copies, nor do I have the time for that because free software is released at such a fast rate that I have no hope to learn to use all of it in my lifetime. (Apologies for feeding the troll.)
Arab and Persian scientists had the habit of citing their sources in the Middle Ages, Westerners did not do that yet. So, a lot is lost due to our (=Western) lack of decent citing in those times. For example, we say it is 100 degrees Celcius or Farenheit, but we do not say it is 20hrs 08 minutes and 59 seconds Al-Nasawi.
Oracle has a serious hard-on for Java, which you can see because it is the only major database I know of that allows you to use Java in place of PL/SQL.
Sorry for replying to self, but/. has no edit function...
The above "solutions" I suggest are solutions which keep Dalvik - I don't know why Google has chosen Dalvik over Java VM, I assume/hope it was on technical grounds. Dropping Dalvik, perhaps in favour of Java VM, might also be an option.
Specifically the patent infringement claim references 7 patents including US Patent No. 5966702 "Method And Apparatus For Preprocessing And Packaging Class Files", and US Patent No. 6910205 "Interpreting Functions Utilizing A Hybrid Of Virtual And Native Machine Instructions".[15] It also references US Patent No. RE38104 "Method And Apparatus For Resolving Data References In Generated Code" authored by James Gosling [...]
As I understand it (disclaimer: I'm a philosopher in Belgium), not using Java on Android would not solve the problem, since Oracle is attacking the Dalvik VM. So, even if it were running JavaScript, Python, Go or C#, Dalvik would according to Oracle violate the Java VM Patents.
Solutions would thus be:
- Prove those patents are not applicable to Dalvik
- Find prior art to invalidate the patents (any lawyer-hacker who is familiar with, say, the inner workings of UCSD Pascal?)
- Reform the US patent system, the most drastic reform would be the abolishment of all "intellectual property"
- Move out of the US
- Pay Oracle or make another deal with them like swapping some patents and/or technologies
Is there a list of inviolable rights somewhere? I ask because people seem to like saying "this is a right" and "that is a right", and it seems really dangerous to not have a definitive source for what is and isnt a right.
I do not know what bot the GP is refering to, but here's a LEGO self-rep bot.
At what point is it "true self-replication"? Is the robot in the video sufficient? Or does it have to handle every distinct brick? Or does it have to be able to create its own bricks out of raw minerals?
I used to run MS-DOS (*) in the x86 software emulator on my 4-8MHz (**) ARM2-based BBC Archimedes in 1987 - some people then refused to believe this was even possible.
(*) MS-DOS 5.2 IIRC - I needed the TopSpeed Modula2 compiler for my programming assignments & WordPerfect to open some docs.
(**) 4 MHz when reading ROM, 8 MHz when reading RAM (there was a command to copy the entire ROM into RAM in Arthur 0.2/RISC OS 1.2)
Thank you, your comment made me read up on Erlang, and you're absolutely right. I'll give Erlang a try. I was disappointed too soon, slashdot remains a beacon of relevance.
I really hoped there would be something in this thread for Prolog programmers who write their time-critical code in assembler, but I was disappointed again.
One man's modus ponens is another man's modus tollens: "if religions are cults, then cults are religions, so maybe there's nothing wrong with them after all".
LOGIC ERROR.
Modus Ponens: from (IF p THEN q) and p, you get q
Modus Tollens: from (IF p THEN q) and NOT q, you get NOT p
You get from (IF p THEN q) to (IF q then p), there's no way to do that using Modus Ponens or Modus Tollens.
It seems like there can't have been that many generations of suns before the formation of our planet.
The sun is a third generation star:
The sun is a relatively young star, a member of a generation of stars known as Population I stars. An older generation of stars is called Population II. There may have existed an earlier generation, called Population III. However, no members of this generation are known. The remainder of this section refers to three generations of stars.
The three generations differ in their content of chemical elements heavier than helium. First-generation stars have the lowest percentage of these elements, and second-generation stars have a higher percentage. The sun and other third-generation stars have the highest percentage of elements heavier than helium.
The percentages differ in this way because first- and second-generation stars that "died" passed along their heavier elements. Many of these stars produced successively heavier elements by means of fusion in and near their cores. The heaviest elements were created when the most massive stars exploded as supernovae. Supernovae enrich the clouds of gas and dust from which other stars form. Other sources of enrichment are planetary nebulae, the cast-off outer layers of less massive stars.
Until the 5th International Workingmen's Association (Den Haag, 1872) in which the Marxists and other statists expelled the anarchists, anarchism was a full member of the communist movement.
So, as an anarchist and communist, I would not want to have communism being forced on anybody.
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I miss dinking around with a nice 6502 system.
Start playing with ARM then, its design was somewhat inspired by the 65xx series and there are plenty of affordable ARM-based systems available.
Except for the state of emergency from 1975 until 1977, elected parliament has always been in power in India. Having a treaty with the Soviet Union has nothing to do with being democratic or not.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. -- Aleister Crowley
François Rabelais wrote that already in the first half of the 16th century in his book "Gargantua", chapter LIV.
maybe if linux users were not just all anti-copyright thieves and pirates, [...]
Hi, I am a Linux user and I am anti-copyright and anti-"Intellectual Property" in general. But I have never stolen anything nor raided any ships. Oh, you mean illegal copying of software... Well, since I use Linux I do not need to make illegal copies, nor do I have the time for that because free software is released at such a fast rate that I have no hope to learn to use all of it in my lifetime. (Apologies for feeding the troll.)
Arab and Persian scientists had the habit of citing their sources in the Middle Ages, Westerners did not do that yet. So, a lot is lost due to our (=Western) lack of decent citing in those times. For example, we say it is 100 degrees Celcius or Farenheit, but we do not say it is 20hrs 08 minutes and 59 seconds Al-Nasawi.
Oracle has a serious hard-on for Java, which you can see because it is the only major database I know of that allows you to use Java in place of PL/SQL.
Most databases have similar features, for example Sybase ASE & PostgreSQL.
Sorry for replying to self, but /. has no edit function...
The above "solutions" I suggest are solutions which keep Dalvik - I don't know why Google has chosen Dalvik over Java VM, I assume/hope it was on technical grounds. Dropping Dalvik, perhaps in favour of Java VM, might also be an option.
Specifically the patent infringement claim references 7 patents including US Patent No. 5966702 "Method And Apparatus For Preprocessing And Packaging Class Files", and US Patent No. 6910205 "Interpreting Functions Utilizing A Hybrid Of Virtual And Native Machine Instructions".[15] It also references US Patent No. RE38104 "Method And Apparatus For Resolving Data References In Generated Code" authored by James Gosling [...]
As I understand it (disclaimer: I'm a philosopher in Belgium), not using Java on Android would not solve the problem, since Oracle is attacking the Dalvik VM. So, even if it were running JavaScript, Python, Go or C#, Dalvik would according to Oracle violate the Java VM Patents.
Solutions would thus be:
- Prove those patents are not applicable to Dalvik
- Find prior art to invalidate the patents (any lawyer-hacker who is familiar with, say, the inner workings of UCSD Pascal?)
- Reform the US patent system, the most drastic reform would be the abolishment of all "intellectual property"
- Move out of the US
- Pay Oracle or make another deal with them like swapping some patents and/or technologies
That would be fucking awful to type compared to = and ==, though. Glad they didn't do that, it'd be so dumb.
How is having to type := and = awful compared to typing = and == ?
:= a + 1 and a = a make a lot more sense than a = a + 1 and a == a, because it is in accordance with how we have been using = for centuries.
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You ask the last question 40 years early.
Zarch was the commercial version, the free version was named Lander.
Is there a list of inviolable rights somewhere? I ask because people seem to like saying "this is a right" and "that is a right", and it seems really dangerous to not have a definitive source for what is and isnt a right.
Yes, there is such a list.
I do not know what bot the GP is refering to, but here's a LEGO self-rep bot.
At what point is it "true self-replication"? Is the robot in the video sufficient? Or does it have to handle every distinct brick? Or does it have to be able to create its own bricks out of raw minerals?
This just a race condition, which was taught when I was a sophomore in college(and I knew about in high school).
Are you sure you were not a semaphore?
If you wanted a PC software emulator in the 80s, you needed an Acorn Archimedes:
I used to run MS-DOS (*) in the x86 software emulator on my 4-8MHz (**) ARM2-based BBC Archimedes in 1987 - some people then refused to believe this was even possible.
(*) MS-DOS 5.2 IIRC - I needed the TopSpeed Modula2 compiler for my programming assignments & WordPerfect to open some docs.
(**) 4 MHz when reading ROM, 8 MHz when reading RAM (there was a command to copy the entire ROM into RAM in Arthur 0.2/RISC OS 1.2)
Thank you, your comment made me read up on Erlang, and you're absolutely right. I'll give Erlang a try. I was disappointed too soon, slashdot remains a beacon of relevance.
I really hoped there would be something in this thread for Prolog programmers who write their time-critical code in assembler, but I was disappointed again.
But you still use furniture, and paper, and buildings.
Of course I do. What is your point?
Why would anybody who cannot program (and is not prepared to learn it) want to use a computer?
I cannot chop trees, and as long as I don't want to learn that, I will not touch a chain saw.
Besides Windows (Which has GUI too) you forgot the following:
Nope, MS SQL Server is actually Sybase SQL Server.
SMB was designed by Barry Feigenbaum at IBM.
Visual Studio was derived from FoxPro (originally known as FoxBASE) which was developed by Fox Software.
One man's modus ponens is another man's modus tollens: "if religions are cults, then cults are religions, so maybe there's nothing wrong with them after all".
LOGIC ERROR.
Modus Ponens: from (IF p THEN q) and p, you get q
Modus Tollens: from (IF p THEN q) and NOT q, you get NOT p
You get from (IF p THEN q) to (IF q then p), there's no way to do that using Modus Ponens or Modus Tollens.
Yeah, when you're done with that stuff, you're ready to understand all of this..
It seems like there can't have been that many generations of suns before the formation of our planet.
The sun is a third generation star:
The sun is a relatively young star, a member of a generation of stars known as Population I stars. An older generation of stars is called Population II. There may have existed an earlier generation, called Population III. However, no members of this generation are known. The remainder of this section refers to three generations of stars.
The three generations differ in their content of chemical elements heavier than helium. First-generation stars have the lowest percentage of these elements, and second-generation stars have a higher percentage. The sun and other third-generation stars have the highest percentage of elements heavier than helium.
The percentages differ in this way because first- and second-generation stars that "died" passed along their heavier elements. Many of these stars produced successively heavier elements by means of fusion in and near their cores. The heaviest elements were created when the most massive stars exploded as supernovae. Supernovae enrich the clouds of gas and dust from which other stars form. Other sources of enrichment are planetary nebulae, the cast-off outer layers of less massive stars.
NASA Sun Worldbook
Then shouldn't you call yourself an anarchist?
Yes, I do.
Until the 5th International Workingmen's Association (Den Haag, 1872) in which the Marxists and other statists expelled the anarchists, anarchism was a full member of the communist movement.
So, as an anarchist and communist, I would not want to have communism being forced on anybody.