I have seen people buy other such stories on slashdot (some that didn't even have real articles;) ).
I am more woried about soccer moms and deadbeat dads that vote than the geeky slashdot users (some or most of which are to young to vote or maybe just too apathetic... or... all of that could just be my view of things...)
I think it would make an interesting game... maybe a quake mod.
I found the article to be poorly worded. The author, I assume, intended to express that the PS2 is more powerfull than many home computers, not the Playstation.
Also, telling people that a Gameboy has more computing ability than all of what sent the Astronauts to the moon is a bad example. It is apples and oranges.
People would assume from that article that Sadam could take a Gameboy, put the right cartridge in it and fly to the moon.
The inter-connectivity of local procs (like in a NUMA arch) makes a big difference if they need to talk together. I don't know of a quick way for the typical Beowulf system to communicate inter-proc near as fast. Beowulf's biggest draw back is the network connection (as in your 16 node iMac cluster). This drawback is not as near apparant for tasks that are normally used on NOW (networks of workstations), such as rendering, because the processors do not need to talk together.
Other tasks, such as the odd/even sort (which allows sorting in logN if you have N procs).
So... a Beowulf of these is possible... if you really need all of that power... and it would look different than the typical grouping that you would see these machines in.
Do you see companies supporting the PPC Linux any time soon?
I see companies with Linux software ignoring the Apple boxen and only supporting those with Intel (and possibly AMD, if they are a cool company).
I know that Alias is porting (has ported?) Maya to the Mac (for OSX I think...). Seeing that they have ported (beta) for Linux on x86 I would expect talk for a LinuxPPC port.
Maybe it is just because of the lack of demand. I guess what I want this question to boil down to is:
Do you see the LinuxPPC solution as being worth a company's time to port code for and to support with OSX and x86 solutions being more common?
I find it interesting that they openly accept any software just because it is made by a large "trust worthy" company.
But since that software may have been compromised by somebody from the outside they are afraid.
What has kept Microsoft employees from doing the same thing? Or, as some would want us to believe, keep Microsoft from doing anything.
Any time a company (or a government) uses closed source software, there has to be a level of trust.
If your boss asked you to do something that you know is wrong, like jumping off the building, that is one thing. If he asked you to do something that you *thought* was wrong that is different.
This is more like the boss asking you to fudge a little on the time sheets or something along those lines. Something that you don't think is wrong, and if he gave you permision, it is his neck...
As some have said, there are nv drivers on the nvidia page.
But, in the notes, it think that it says that there are some problems with the GeForce2...
They have an opensource driver available on the page as well. It is for the XFree 3.x and not 4...
I know that the SGI Linux machines are now shipping with the GeForce2 cards and that the drivers are a combined effort of nVidia, SGI and VA.
I have been told that you can find better drivers on SGI's page by downloading some of the patches for the SGI Linux systems. This may not work. I went to far and messed mine up.
I have tried using the nVidia drivers with some software on my box and it seemed to be messed up.
I don't think they are looking for fast drives either. But... for storage of something this important I would bet that a lot of money did go in storage for some of those fancy scsi drives to go into a RAID system.
If the data is really important, a redundant system is needed and that ofcourse can double the price. I have looked at good 10TB RAID systems and they are not cheap.
Not always.
The switch could be a bottleneck. It doesn't have to be. It all depends on how much data has to be transfered.
I know that with a render farm, which is a NOW (network of workstations) the switch is not the limiting factor. The machine pulls in data, thinks and spits out data, in small chuncks (a couple K at a time). Any switch should be able to handle this.
Also, if more of an interaction is needed between machines, they can be networked in hypercube configs by adding a few more switches.
The backbone can get in the way, but if that is what the limiting factor is, then maybe smaller groups should be used, each working on different segments. Or, more stuff should be stored locally with some sort of smart push script.
The movie was funny. But... it wasn't as funny as it could have been. I felt that much of the humor fell flat. Many times I only smiled at jokes... and I tend to be a laugher. On the other hand, I did laugh out loud several times.
I think this movie reminded me more of a Disney want to be and not a true Disney movie. Other "childrens" movies I have seen got many more laughs (such as Chicken Run, Toy Story 2).
Will the movie do well? I think so, the Disney marketing machine has been in full gear for a while, so people will go see it. Will they go back a 2nd time... probably not. They may buy it though because of lack of quality children videos.
I went in hesitant because of what I saw as over marketing. The game was over advertised and it came out before the movie. Always a bad sign.
I will have to say that I was more disapointed with Dinosaur than with this movie.
If you have kids, go see it. If you don't... it is up to you... maybe a matinee.
What does this say about America today if a major merger such as this could hinge on a stupid little chat program. It isn't the only option for chatting... it is just exclusive to its self. What other stipulations could they try to set that would be better?
I don't know... maybe more people to code a better Netscape 6... force them to challenge IE. That would be an idea. Or... gnutella...
Does this mean that java is closer to being used for small embeded systems? Like I thought it was designed for?
I am suprised that this hasn't happened yet! Who knows... maybe we can now have several small 8 bit chips be the java interpreters. I imagine we could fit a ton of these on a pci card and do massive parallel stuff, or... we could use the proc in the box and run much much faster.
I guess I see the worth of the project, but I doubt that it will be usefull for more than just an * marked next to the platforms that java can run on.
Or maybe all of this is the White Castle talking...
See... that is the wrong attitude. Mike shouldn't gain from the articles. We should. The whole point of this great experiment called/. is that we can get news and then hopefully insightfull comentary on the news.
Mike has brought us news. What has the./ community done in response? If all these negative views have occured, it is our fault, not his.
I disagree. I like seeing Amiga submissions. What does it hurt? If you don't want to read it, skip it.
Don't turn this into another Katz type thing.
If Mike happens to keep up on Amiga and he thinks that we are interested in some of the information he should feel obligated to share it. If the/. staff feels that this information is indeed worthy, they should feel obligated to pass it along to us.
Just cause you are tired of seeing 5 articles in the last 5 months doesn't mean it is overkill. I could stand 1 a week if it was informative. I know I wade through that many for other OSes and hardware makers... and so on.
I wonder how the first developers view the new Amiga direction.
I have mixed feelings. I was so anxious for the Gateway box that was supposed to come out. I loved the A1000 we had years ago (look at the games I can play... what can your AppleIIGS do?).
My first experience with a dos machine was on the Amiga emulator and the 5 1/4 drive. Also, my first experience with public domain games (Freddy Fish?) Also, programing too, some form of basic. And pascal too, I think.
Now, we have something that looks a little like Java or that web browser plugin (mentioned earlier). I have so many mixed feelings. The idea that you can still develop for something under the Amiga name is cool if only for the rich history. I guess if it delivers what it promises, it should be worth developing for, but is there a contingency for those that spend the time and it never pans out? I know that the current carrier of the Amiga name has promised not to pull a Gateway-type move on us fans, but Gateway also promised to not do it either.
Maybe I am jaded by all of the past lies and promises or maybe I just wonder what is wrong with developing for individual platforms.
Who knows... enough from a person looking at the past.
I think the fact that it is ray traced is just a coincidence.
The A1000 had some neat demo programs, one of which was a person jugaling these checkered balls. There might have been an earlier demo that used the ball, but this is the first I remember.
Like many, the Amiga is a distant memory of a child hood a long time ago.
Maybe you shouldn't use slashdot for your only source of news... I have a feeling that the moodswings were more a "slashdotian" thing, not one from 3dfx.
I have a headphone rule. I am fair game in all rocket fights *unless* I have my headphones on.
Then, if I am hit with a rocket, it is for informational purposes only.
We used it at Taylor as well.
As a sad note (or maybe not...) I learned more C than I did about OSes. Also I learned about how group projects are supposed to work, as a group!
All in all it was a great experience.
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I have seen people buy other such stories on slashdot (some that didn't even have real articles ;) ).
I am more woried about soccer moms and deadbeat dads that vote than the geeky slashdot users (some or most of which are to young to vote or maybe just too apathetic... or... all of that could just be my view of things...)
I think it would make an interesting game... maybe a quake mod.
I found the article to be poorly worded. The author, I assume, intended to express that the PS2 is more powerfull than many home computers, not the Playstation.
Also, telling people that a Gameboy has more computing ability than all of what sent the Astronauts to the moon is a bad example. It is apples and oranges.
People would assume from that article that Sadam could take a Gameboy, put the right cartridge in it and fly to the moon.
Well... sort of.
The inter-connectivity of local procs (like in a NUMA arch) makes a big difference if they need to talk together. I don't know of a quick way for the typical Beowulf system to communicate inter-proc near as fast. Beowulf's biggest draw back is the network connection (as in your 16 node iMac cluster). This drawback is not as near apparant for tasks that are normally used on NOW (networks of workstations), such as rendering, because the processors do not need to talk together.
Other tasks, such as the odd/even sort (which allows sorting in logN if you have N procs).
So... a Beowulf of these is possible... if you really need all of that power... and it would look different than the typical grouping that you would see these machines in.
Reading the article, they are jailed for fraud, not for spamming.
Big deal.
People get jailed for that all the time.
I want to see people jailed just for sending spam.
Do you see companies supporting the PPC Linux any time soon?
I see companies with Linux software ignoring the Apple boxen and only supporting those with Intel (and possibly AMD, if they are a cool company).
I know that Alias is porting (has ported?) Maya to the Mac (for OSX I think...). Seeing that they have ported (beta) for Linux on x86 I would expect talk for a LinuxPPC port.
Maybe it is just because of the lack of demand. I guess what I want this question to boil down to is:
Do you see the LinuxPPC solution as being worth a company's time to port code for and to support with OSX and x86 solutions being more common?
I find it interesting that they openly accept any software just because it is made by a large "trust worthy" company.
But since that software may have been compromised by somebody from the outside they are afraid.
What has kept Microsoft employees from doing the same thing? Or, as some would want us to believe, keep Microsoft from doing anything.
Any time a company (or a government) uses closed source software, there has to be a level of trust.
I disagree.
If your boss asked you to do something that you know is wrong, like jumping off the building, that is one thing. If he asked you to do something that you *thought* was wrong that is different.
This is more like the boss asking you to fudge a little on the time sheets or something along those lines. Something that you don't think is wrong, and if he gave you permision, it is his neck...
Read the article.
The company knew of no reward.
If I was the kid I would have done the same thing.
Why would the teacher want access to something he probably allready had?
I think that the distributed.net project is a proof in concept thing.
We all know that brute force can break encyption. By doing it, we demonstrate how simple it is to do.
I am positive that Xfree86 will be arround for a while.
;)
I am also positive that those that whine the most about some opensource code are doing the least to better it.
I am even more positive that this is not what you were looking for when you said positive comments only...
Thanks for getting all those uglies out of the way...
As some have said, there are nv drivers on the nvidia page.
But, in the notes, it think that it says that there are some problems with the GeForce2...
They have an opensource driver available on the page as well. It is for the XFree 3.x and not 4...
I know that the SGI Linux machines are now shipping with the GeForce2 cards and that the drivers are a combined effort of nVidia, SGI and VA.
I have been told that you can find better drivers on SGI's page by downloading some of the patches for the SGI Linux systems. This may not work. I went to far and messed mine up.
I have tried using the nVidia drivers with some software on my box and it seemed to be messed up.
If you can get any further, let me know.
I don't think they are looking for fast drives either. But... for storage of something this important I would bet that a lot of money did go in storage for some of those fancy scsi drives to go into a RAID system.
If the data is really important, a redundant system is needed and that ofcourse can double the price. I have looked at good 10TB RAID systems and they are not cheap.
Not always.
The switch could be a bottleneck. It doesn't have to be. It all depends on how much data has to be transfered.
I know that with a render farm, which is a NOW (network of workstations) the switch is not the limiting factor. The machine pulls in data, thinks and spits out data, in small chuncks (a couple K at a time). Any switch should be able to handle this.
Also, if more of an interaction is needed between machines, they can be networked in hypercube configs by adding a few more switches.
The backbone can get in the way, but if that is what the limiting factor is, then maybe smaller groups should be used, each working on different segments. Or, more stuff should be stored locally with some sort of smart push script.
The movie was funny. But... it wasn't as funny as it could have been. I felt that much of the humor fell flat. Many times I only smiled at jokes... and I tend to be a laugher. On the other hand, I did laugh out loud several times.
I think this movie reminded me more of a Disney want to be and not a true Disney movie. Other "childrens" movies I have seen got many more laughs (such as Chicken Run, Toy Story 2).
Will the movie do well? I think so, the Disney marketing machine has been in full gear for a while, so people will go see it. Will they go back a 2nd time... probably not. They may buy it though because of lack of quality children videos.
I went in hesitant because of what I saw as over marketing. The game was over advertised and it came out before the movie. Always a bad sign.
I will have to say that I was more disapointed with Dinosaur than with this movie.
If you have kids, go see it. If you don't... it is up to you... maybe a matinee.
So are you saying that we can't do a funny movie about Jews without mentioning Hitler. Or maybe African-Americans without mentioning the KKK?
I watched the movie. There was not one mention of any culture other than the Emperors. I don't see where this complaint came from.
I saw this movie as a celebration of the uniqueness of the culture.
Maybe you are thinking of the Road to El Derado...
What does this say about America today if a major merger such as this could hinge on a stupid little chat program. It isn't the only option for chatting... it is just exclusive to its self. What other stipulations could they try to set that would be better?
I don't know... maybe more people to code a better Netscape 6... force them to challenge IE. That would be an idea. Or... gnutella...
What a missed oppertunity...
Does this mean that java is closer to being used for small embeded systems? Like I thought it was designed for? ... maybe we can now have several small 8 bit chips be the java interpreters. I imagine we could fit a ton of these on a pci card and do massive parallel stuff, or... we could use the proc in the box and run much much faster.
I am suprised that this hasn't happened yet! Who knows
I guess I see the worth of the project, but I doubt that it will be usefull for more than just an * marked next to the platforms that java can run on.
Or maybe all of this is the White Castle talking...
See... that is the wrong attitude. Mike shouldn't gain from the articles. We should. The whole point of this great experiment called /. is that we can get news and then hopefully insightfull comentary on the news.
./ community done in response? If all these negative views have occured, it is our fault, not his.
Mike has brought us news. What has the
I disagree. I like seeing Amiga submissions. What does it hurt? If you don't want to read it, skip it. /. staff feels that this information is indeed worthy, they should feel obligated to pass it along to us.
Don't turn this into another Katz type thing.
If Mike happens to keep up on Amiga and he thinks that we are interested in some of the information he should feel obligated to share it. If the
Just cause you are tired of seeing 5 articles in the last 5 months doesn't mean it is overkill. I could stand 1 a week if it was informative. I know I wade through that many for other OSes and hardware makers... and so on.
I wonder how the first developers view the new Amiga direction.
I have mixed feelings. I was so anxious for the Gateway box that was supposed to come out. I loved the A1000 we had years ago (look at the games I can play... what can your AppleIIGS do?).
My first experience with a dos machine was on the Amiga emulator and the 5 1/4 drive. Also, my first experience with public domain games (Freddy Fish?) Also, programing too, some form of basic. And pascal too, I think.
Now, we have something that looks a little like Java or that web browser plugin (mentioned earlier). I have so many mixed feelings. The idea that you can still develop for something under the Amiga name is cool if only for the rich history. I guess if it delivers what it promises, it should be worth developing for, but is there a contingency for those that spend the time and it never pans out? I know that the current carrier of the Amiga name has promised not to pull a Gateway-type move on us fans, but Gateway also promised to not do it either.
Maybe I am jaded by all of the past lies and promises or maybe I just wonder what is wrong with developing for individual platforms.
Who knows... enough from a person looking at the past.
I think the fact that it is ray traced is just a coincidence.
The A1000 had some neat demo programs, one of which was a person jugaling these checkered balls. There might have been an earlier demo that used the ball, but this is the first I remember.
Like many, the Amiga is a distant memory of a child hood a long time ago.
Maybe you shouldn't use slashdot for your only source of news... I have a feeling that the moodswings were more a "slashdotian" thing, not one from 3dfx.
I couldn't agree more.
I have a headphone rule. I am fair game in all rocket fights *unless* I have my headphones on.
Then, if I am hit with a rocket, it is for informational purposes only.
We used it at Taylor as well. As a sad note (or maybe not...) I learned more C than I did about OSes. Also I learned about how group projects are supposed to work, as a group! All in all it was a great experience.
Dude, they have the gimp for windows. Use that.