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  1. Inviolable secret voting on California Panel Recommends Dumping Diebold · · Score: 1

    I dunno about the USofA, but here it's a constitutional right of every citizen. You are being a simplist, because the hardest part of such system is to dissociate the vote from the voter while still preserving the bond. maybe there is some cryptographic way of doing this (I can check if my vote is there with a private key, but no-one else can know who I voted for).

  2. Re:I disagree in all accounts. Respectfully. on California Panel Recommends Dumping Diebold · · Score: 1

    If you read my posts, you'll see that here the voting machines do not have printers, nor punchers.

    Besides, the ones that were tested in the last election that *had* printers were (a) more expensive, (b) more expensive to operate, (c) more failure-prone, and (d) their audit trail was not really really auditable (*)

    (*) You don't want to read, one by one, tickets credit-size of thermal printing, in the night hours (the time when recounts are normally done... no one trusts people taking the votes away, even if sealed... don't forget that, for each scrutinizer, here, we do have 10 party officials...) Yes, you *can* do it, but, as I said before, nobody *wants* to.

  3. This is a really good troll. on Postfix 2.1 Released · · Score: 1

    [voice tone="priestly"]Free as in speech, not as in beer, my son[/voice]
    Here, consult the book of truth , and download the One True Operating System , and you shall be enlightened.
    Now seriously, besides Qt has a Free Software License (GPL), so it is Free Software, too.

  4. I disagree in all accounts. Respectfully. on California Panel Recommends Dumping Diebold · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And if you read my other posts, you'll see I'm experienced in the matter.

    Yes, we need electronic voting machines, because they have the potential to be much more secure than paper trail.

    Some of our /. colleagues think the USofAn electoral system is already rigged.

    "I (and others) have said it before and I'll say it again. What the heck is wrong with paper ballots that are actually auditable?" It's not auditable. An entire "paper virtual" voting district can be created, and millions of votes added. If you trust paper a lot, a lot of phony paper will show up. Besides, as I have already told, no-one wants to count it, no-one wants to recount it (or else in the USofA people would have a recount in the last presidential election -- it did not happen, and will not happen).

    "Or mechanical voting systems that don't rely on software that we can't see or understand?" Now, you have a point. The ideal is that all the software in the machines be public, publicly auditable, every single part of it.

    "Why are the companies so afraid of putting an auditable paper trail in it?" dunno about afraid, but here, the (semi-)auditable paper trail added problems, costs, and no security. real auditable paper trail, meaning a carton-thick ticket containing a written form of your vote [so you can see it] and an OCR'able or barcode representation of it [so it can be separated automatically to be recounted] is just too expensive.

    And if it's not automatically separatable/countable it's just not worthy because people do not want to count/recount votes.

  5. Down here... on Ethanol From Waste Straw · · Score: 1

    Gasoline is 25% ethanol, and car fuel alcohol is... 15% gasoline! How's that??

  6. Re:To TNG or not to TNG? on Berman Confirms Star Trek Prequel Film Project · · Score: 1

    By the original crew, he meant the original TNG crew. No one is dead. Of the original TOS crew, only DeForest Kelley died, but the excess weight of James Doohan is more that the weight of DFK anyway... (ouch!)

  7. Really OT. on California Grills Diebold Over E-Voting Foul-Ups · · Score: 1

    it's feminine. my bad.

  8. Please teach me. on Software To Stop Song Trading · · Score: 1

    I tried to do it, and did not succeed.

  9. Forests and stuff. on California Grills Diebold Over E-Voting Foul-Ups · · Score: 1

    People generally don't have in mind that Brasil is less than 20% forest -- especially rain forest. Which is OK, because we are bigger than the continental USofA.
    The country is divided in 5 regions: North, Northeast, Mid-west, Southeast and South.
    If the area your boss has is in the Northern Region, chances are that it is rain forest (in which case he can only farm 50% of it... the rest is protected), or farming area (20% protected areas). This supposing he did not fell for not-for-sale areas (native Brazilian reserves, p.ex)
    If the area is in the Northeastern, Southern or in the Southeastern regions, it's probably already farming area, and if he's not farming there, he should be careful because here, non-productive farming areas are up for grabs (they can be confiscated for land reform, to settle small agricutural producers).
    If it's in the Northeastern, it can be in our semi-desertic, areas, too :-)
    In the Mid-western region, there are the big plantation farms, mainly of soybeans. And our swampy forests.

  10. Contingencies on California Grills Diebold Over E-Voting Foul-Ups · · Score: 2, Informative

    You don't. There is a "contingency plan" for every possible failure.

    If one machine does not work, you have 2 or 3 backup machienes for each 100 or so; if they don't work, also, you do paper ballot voting in the section that machine, call in the party officials and the scrutinizers, make the count by hand (remember, each box does not have an awful lot of votes).

    If your floppy goes bad, you (the Electoral Judge, I mean) writes by hand in a Superior Electoral Court program the results from that box, signs a report that the computer emits saying "this data was entered by hand, it's my responsability", and affix it to elections papers.

    If you lose connectivity, you get the car/boat, and take the disks to the neighboring electoral zone (=set of sections), with police escort. And the list goes on and on.

  11. It's Lula down here :-) on California Grills Diebold Over E-Voting Foul-Ups · · Score: 1

    Is it a bad sentence if you are caught and convicted for not voting?
    You mean, worse than not receiving your tax returns? :-) Nope, you have to write a letter to the electoral judge saying why you haven't gone vote. The judge will summon you for a hearing, you will apologize and pay a small fine. This if you do the "justifying" in 15 to 30 days after the election (depends on the election schedule, that varies).
    Without either voting or justifying, you can't have a government job, nor vote in the next election, nor receiving and welfare, and next year, you won't receive your tax returns.
    If you have a good justification, and show evidence, you can be exempt of the fine.
    Tell me, how do you like Silva so far?
    Plus ça change, plus c'est le meme chose... The more things change, more they stay the same. I voted for him, for I tought he would do something to stimulate growth. He did not -- yet at least, so I, personally, am not very happy. The worker's party has less corruption than the others, but that is far from meaning *no* corruption.

  12. Oh, yes, I will repeat myself over and over... on Open Voting at OSCON · · Score: 5, Informative

    Till these topics die.

    I live in Brasil. We have had voting machines in the last 12-14 years (yes, twelve to fourteen -- it depends the size of the city you are in). Brazilians here: the first election here in Belo Horizonte to use the machines were the mayoral (and city council, state representation, governor, house and senate) before FHC was elected (as I count it, 2 years + 8 years + 1 1/2 = 11,5 years). I know it, because I was "mesário" (election "table" official? election "clerk"? what is a good English translation?) in the previous election, and in the two subsequent elections). IIRC, there were electronic ballot boxes in Rio and Sao Paulo in the election before that (the only two cities larger than Belo Horizonte).

    Our voting machines are mainly of three different (internally) models: (a) the old ones, that use VirtuOS (*) as the OS, (b) the new ones, that use WinCE as the OS, and (c) the newest and deprecated ones that have the second printer to print your vote, show it to you inside a clear acrilic case, and mix it with others inside the machine.

    Externally, all of them look roughly the same: a box similar to the old "portable computers" of the eighties, with a 5-6" diagonal LCD and a big numerical keypad in the right side of the screen, that has, besides the 0-9 keys, "confirma" (ok), "erro" (cancel), and "branco" (white).

    The electoral process (from the point of view of the voter) begins ... when you get your first job. If you are a mandatory voter (literate person from 18 to 65) you have to go to Electoral Court and register to vote. In the process of registering, you receive the "Título de Eleitor" (voter id), in which you have the number of you voting section. To change jobs, and specially to get a government job, you have to prove you are a registered and regularized voter (you voted in the last election, or regularized your voting situation after it).

    In the election day, you scan the newspapers (or the Superior Electoral Court website), search for the address of your section, and go there. No, there is no transit vote, you can only vote at that address. If you can't get there, you'll have to "justify" your absence.

    At the section, you will present your voter id to one the "mesários", and if you don't have it on you, you can still vote (you can show other valid id), but will be delayed. The mesário will search for your name in the vote-ticket sheet, and annex it to your id while you vote. You will sign a receipt in a sheet, and proceed to the voting "booth". Another "mesário" will type your voter id # in a remotely connected keypad, setting the machine in the "ready to vote" mode.

    The voting "booth" is really only a desk with the voting machine over it, facing nobody else in the room, and sometimes with a cardboard "cover" around it. You will "dial" the numbers of the candidates, in order. when you dial all the digits of one candidate, a star-trek-like chime rings, his/her face will show up in the screen, and if you digited it right, you hit "ok". otherwise, you hit "cancel" and start over. After typing all the candidates, you hit "ok" one last time, the machine chimes again, and goes to "stand by" mode. You have voted. If you don't want to vote for nobody, you can hit "white" instead of the candidate ## (accounted as a "white vote", or "none of the above" -- this is the equivalent of putting your paper ballot in the box without marking anything), or if you really want to protest you can type 9999 or other non-existent-candidate-#, and your vote will be accounted as a "null vote", or "I'm really pissed of" (the equivalent of drawing pictures or writing "improper expletives" in a paper ballot)

    Then, you get your id back, your ticket (keep it together with your voter id!!), and you go home. Ah, bars do not open (theoretically) in the election day, so hope you have bought your beer in the day before).

    From the point of view of election officials, things are more complicated. The machines

  13. I disagree, too, respectfully, too... on California Grills Diebold Over E-Voting Foul-Ups · · Score: 1

    And I have deep, first-hand experience on the matter: #8942031

  14. Re:Stop beating a dead horse... on Berman Confirms Star Trek Prequel Film Project · · Score: 1

    We do have it, it's called "Shatner's throat". Please don't use it for evil purposes, like recording songs.

  15. Re:Prequel? Oh boy... on Berman Confirms Star Trek Prequel Film Project · · Score: 1

    Change it to Capitain Be-fore and you're done.

  16. Re:To TNG or not to TNG? on Berman Confirms Star Trek Prequel Film Project · · Score: 2, Funny

    Besides, like Scotty, the original crew is some 200kg heavier than in "Encounter in Farpoint" (total, I mean :)

  17. Maybe I can avoid posting a dozen times. on California Grills Diebold Over E-Voting Foul-Ups · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Brasil. We have had voting machines in the last 12-14 years (yes, twelve to fourteen -- it depends the size of the city you are in). For the Brazilians here: the first election here in Belo Horizonte to use the machines were the mayoral (and city council, state representation, governor, house and senate) before FHC was elected (as I count it, 2 years + 8 years + 1 1/2 = 11,5 years). I know it, because I was "mesário" (election "table" official? election "clerk"? what is a good English translation?) in the previous election, and in the two subsequent elections). IIRC, there were electronic ballot boxes in Rio and Sao Paulo in the election before that (the only two cities larger than Belo Horizonte).
    Our voting machines are mainly of three different (internally) models: (a) the old ones, that use VirtuOS (*) as the OS, (b) the new ones, that use WinCE as the OS, and (c) the newest and deprecated ones that have the second printer to print your vote, show it to you inside a clear acrilic case, and mix it with others inside the machine.
    Externally, all of them look roughly the same: a box similar to the old "portables" of the eighties, with a 5-6" diagonal LCD and a big numerical keypad in the right side of the screen, that has, besides 0-9 keys, "confirma" (ok), "erro" (cancel), and "branco" (white).
    The electoral process (from the point of view of the voter) begins ... when you get your first job. If you are a mandatory voter (literate person from 18 to 65) you have to go to Electoral Court and register to vote. In the process of registering, you receive the "Título de Eleitor" (voter id), in which you have the number of you voting section. To change jobs, and specially to get a government job, you have to prove you are a registered *and* *regularized* voter (you voted in the last election, or regularized your voting situation after it).
    In the election day, you scan the newspapers (or the Superior Electoral Court website), search for the address of your section, and go there. No, there is no transit vote, you can only vote at that address. If you can't get there, you'll have to "justify" your absence.
    At the section, you will present your voter id to one the "mesários", and if you don't have it on you, you can still vote (you can show other valid id), but will be delayed. The mesário will search for your name in the vote-ticket sheet, and annex it to your id while you vote. You will sign a receipt in a sheet, and proceed to the voting "booth". Another "mesário" will type your voter id # in a remotely connected keypad, setting the machine in the "ready to vote" mode.
    The voting "booth" is really a desk with the voting machine over it, facing nobody else in the room, and sometimes with a cardboard "cover" around it. You will "dial" the numbers of the candidates, in order. when you dial all the digits of one candidate, a star-trek-like chime rings, his/her face will show up in the screen, and if you digited it right, you hit "ok". otherwise, you hit "cancel" and start over. After typing all the candidates, you hit "ok" one last time, the machine chimes again, and goes to "stand by" mode. You have voted. If you don't want to vote for nobody, you can hit "white" instead of the candidate ## (accounted as a "white vote", or "none of the above" -- this is the equivalent of putting your paper ballot in the box without marking anything), or if you really want to protest you can type 9999 or other non-existent-candidate-#, and your vote will be accounted as a "null vote", or "I'm really pissed of" (the equivalent of drawing pictures or writing "improper expletives" in a paper ballot)
    Then, you get your id back, your ticket (keep it together with your voter id!!), and you go home. Ah, bars do not open (theoretically) in the election day, so hope you have bought your beer in the day before).
    From the point of view of election officials, things are more complicated. The machines arrive to the Electoral Judge (yes, a Judge of Law) pre-prepared one to two months

  18. Rip van Winkle on Highest Human Elevation Using a Rocketbelt · · Score: 1

    Yeah, if I had slept in 1984 and woke up today, I would be pretty disappointed... Nowadays, I would be satisfied even by "Minority Report"-style car-levators.

  19. Rocketeer on Highest Human Elevation Using a Rocketbelt · · Score: 1

    I did not only saw the movie, I read the comics before, and I loved all of'em. You asked.

  20. Oh, yeah! on LUG Pres Resigns Over Military Linux Use · · Score: 1

    Yeah, what's so bad about nucular missiles guidance systems? would you rather like them better (the nucular missiles, I mean) without the guidance systems? they would fall in the wrong places, you know. like your home, or the White House. Thinking of what, yeah, bad nucular missiles guidance dance systems.!

  21. PLEASE MOD PARENT ALL THE WAY UP!!! on Debian Removes Binary-only Firmware From Kernel · · Score: 1

    this is the best summary of the question I have read... pls squiggleslash, post it to debian-legal!

  22. Re:This only hurts Debian. on Debian Removes Binary-only Firmware From Kernel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, we Debianers usually screen our hardware before shopping...

  23. Absolute Freedom on LUG Pres Resigns Over Military Linux Use · · Score: 1

    Freedom to make soap out of babies. This is what the freedom implied in Free software means, if you want to. No discrimination against fields of endeavour. This guy does not get it.
    Did you USofAns saw that, thanks to a 100M$ spending in two weeks TV ads, your genius president is up and running and probably will get re-elected?? Pay attention to the polls, and do something, because the unwashed masses are paying attention to the TV.
    Go vote instead of mixing apples and bullets.

  24. Policy rule #1 says on Linux Spreads its Wings · · Score: 1
    do not answer to AC's;
    Policy rule #2 says do not specially answer to AC's that can't understand a joke;
    Policy rule #3 says do not, under any circumstances, answer to AC's that are uninformed *and* can't understand a joke.
    Ah, what the hell.

    Please, get your facts straight

    Biography

    Torvalds was born in Helsinki, the capital of Finland, as the son of Nils and Anna Torvalds. Both of his parents were campus radicals at the University of Helsinki in the 1960s, his father a Communist who in the mid-1970s spent a year studying in Moscow. This caused embarrassment to Linus at the time since other children would tease him about his father's politics.

    His family belongs to the Swedish-speaking minority (roughly 6% of Finland's population). Torvalds was named after Linus Pauling. He attended the University of Helsinki from 1988 on.


    Emphasis mine. QED.
  25. In Brasil, things are at the same time... on India Starts All-Electronic National Elections · · Score: 2, Interesting

    simpler and more complicated. See, to get a job -- any regularized job... -- you have to be a registered and showing voter. You have to show your Voter ID (called "Título de Eleitor") and a ticket showing you voted in the last election. If you don't have such ticket, you can't vote in the next election, too. But, most important, you can't get a job in government. In the next year, you won't be eligible to receive any $$$ from the government, including tax returns. If you don't show up to vote, you have to go to your Electoral Court and justify why you were absent (can be done by snail-mail, too, but even so you can be called to testify on Court) and pay a small fine.
    So, every mandatory voter (literate 18-65yo people) has its Voter ID regularized.
    You get in the section, show your voter id to the "mesário", sign a sheet, vote, get your "showed up" ticket, and go away.
    Here, there is no transit vote (you can only vote in your section), and the Voter ID is nationwide (the database is central). It's fairly difficult to vote twice (but not impossible).